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Reggie Smithers wrote:
wrote:
Bert Robbins wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Bryan wrote:
Harry,
I haven't been around long enough to know the history behind the
animosity between you (and others) and Skipper. I do not want to talk
about that!

What I do want to know is why the personal attack on his boat, a
bayliner, over and over. For example, "10-12 acres. Perfect size for
Skip and that Bayliner." From the tone of the post I pulled the quote
from, and others that I've read, I'm interpreting the bayliner comment
as a slur on the boat.

I understand that each of us has our boat and they're all different, but
each gets us into the water whether it's a small lake with a no wake
limit or the limitless ocean. So I'm wondering why the relentless attack
on the make or model of a boat.

If I've misinterpreted what I've been reading, just let me know,
otherwise I'm curious about the motivation for the repetitive attacks, or
slurs.

Bryan
Sea Ray 185 Sport

My comments have nothing to do with Bayliners, really, but everything to
to with Skipper's years of overblown claims for the "quality" of his
particular boat. It is true, however, that the older Bayliners were more
than a little deficient in the quality area, but the newer ones are better
than the older ones. From what I have seen, the newer Bayliners are just
about average now.
Plain and simple, Harry is an asshole, Chuck Gould is an arrogant SOB.

Your inflammatory comments and use of bad language does nothing for
your integrity. May I suggest you take the tone of the rest of the
group?

Bassy,
I agree, most people have gone out of their way to keep the tone civil
and polite. Hopefully, this will continue and people will ignore the
inflammatory comments of others.

--
Reggie
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Reggie, we might need to consider being patient with some of the
formerly active posters here. With most of the threads now
concentrating on boats and boating related matters and almost no
politics at all....(hoooo......raaaay!!).........there are certainly
various individuals who have never demonstrated an interest in or
capacity to discuss boats; some who might be feeling a bit "left out"
if they can't fire up a good old fashioned rec.boats flame war or steer
discussion to Bush, Iraq, Liberals, Conservatives, or other
controversial topics.

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
wrote:
Bert Robbins wrote:

Plain and simple, Harry is an asshole, Chuck Gould is an arrogant SOB.


Thank you very much, Bert.
That's the nicest thing you have ever said about me.
It's flattering to know that while I never mention you in the NG, I
must be constantly on your mind as you often present your personal
evaluations of my behavior or character without any provocation
whatsoever. You might try obsessing about someone or something
else......trust me, I'm not worth the time you rather obviously put
into it.
If we were still discussing politics here, I'd ask if you ever met a
liberal that you *did* like, but we aren't, so I won't. :-)

You're entitled to your opinion. Carry on.



But the question remains...which ranks higher in Bert's opinion..."an
asshole," or, "an arrogant SOB"?

Well, you kinda need the former ....

RCE

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Reggie,
Sorry, but you are way off base when you say that the PT Cruiser seems
tiny compared to the Beetle. While The PT Cruiser is shorter than a
Nissan Sentra, it has interior passenger space comparable to a Lincoln
Town Car:
http://www.automotive.com/reviews/12...iser/interior/


Road & Track did an article comparing the PT Cruiser, Mini Cooper, and
Beetle he
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....article_id=418
There is a nice chart with diagrams and data he
http://www.roadandtrack.com/reviews/...retro_data.pdf
Incidentally, the front seat leg room for the PTC is shown as 43.0",
but that is deceptive because the seat in the PTC is high, the actual
leg comfort level is much better than the number suggests. My Saturn
SW2 had 42.5", but the PTC has a lot more leg room than the Saturn did.

Likewise, the back seat comfort is much better in the PTC, 4" more than
the Beetle. Plus, the back seats are actually higher than the front
seats.

And of course there is no comparing the trunk/cargo space, the PTC has
about 3X as much maximum cargo space.

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The beauty of the PT Cruiser is that in many people's minds they are
"trash". But their reliability ratings are on par with the Japanese.

This means it's resale value drops disproportionate to it's value. You
can get a real bargain with used PT Cruisers which are still excellent
cars, but have a low price tag.

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RCE wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
wrote:
Bert Robbins wrote:

Plain and simple, Harry is an asshole, Chuck Gould is an arrogant SOB.


Thank you very much, Bert.
That's the nicest thing you have ever said about me.
It's flattering to know that while I never mention you in the NG, I
must be constantly on your mind as you often present your personal
evaluations of my behavior or character without any provocation
whatsoever. You might try obsessing about someone or something
else......trust me, I'm not worth the time you rather obviously put
into it.
If we were still discussing politics here, I'd ask if you ever met a
liberal that you *did* like, but we aren't, so I won't. :-)

You're entitled to your opinion. Carry on.



But the question remains...which ranks higher in Bert's opinion..."an
asshole," or, "an arrogant SOB"?

Well, you kinda need the former ....

RCE

Pardon me, but I feel compelled to speak up on behalf of my fellow
"Arrogant SOB's" just about here. Even the lowliest form of life with a
digestive system has an asshole. It takes
a bit of misguided intellect and screwed over attitude to rise to the
stature of "Arrogant, SOB." :-)

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wrote:
Reggie,
Sorry, but you are way off base when you say that the PT Cruiser seems
tiny compared to the Beetle. While The PT Cruiser is shorter than a
Nissan Sentra, it has interior passenger space comparable to a Lincoln
Town Car:
http://www.automotive.com/reviews/12...iser/interior/


Road & Track did an article comparing the PT Cruiser, Mini Cooper, and
Beetle he
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....article_id=418
There is a nice chart with diagrams and data he
http://www.roadandtrack.com/reviews/...retro_data.pdf
Incidentally, the front seat leg room for the PTC is shown as 43.0",
but that is deceptive because the seat in the PTC is high, the actual
leg comfort level is much better than the number suggests. My Saturn
SW2 had 42.5", but the PTC has a lot more leg room than the Saturn did.

Likewise, the back seat comfort is much better in the PTC, 4" more than
the Beetle. Plus, the back seats are actually higher than the front
seats.

And of course there is no comparing the trunk/cargo space, the PTC has
about 3X as much maximum cargo space.

Robin,
That is not the first time I was way off base. Thanks for highlighting
my latest screw up.


--
Reggie
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That's my story and I am sticking to it.

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"RCE" wrote in message
...

"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...

"RCE" wrote in message
...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

I like full-size GM and Ford pick-me-ups, I like the new 'vettes, I
like the Caddy STS, and I think I like the looks of the new Chrysler
300 sedan. That's about it for US vehicles.

Check out the Chrysler 300 with the new, bored 6.something liter hemi.
425 hp.


It's certainly a nice car, and more reasonably priced than the Cadillac
STS-V. But if money were no object, and I were buying an American car:

http://www.rsportscars.com/eng/cars/cadillac_sts-v.asp


Big time problems being reported by disappointed buyers of this car.
Investigate before you buy.


Where have you read those reports?

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wrote in message
oups.com...

RCE wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
wrote:
Bert Robbins wrote:

Plain and simple, Harry is an asshole, Chuck Gould is an arrogant
SOB.


Thank you very much, Bert.
That's the nicest thing you have ever said about me.
It's flattering to know that while I never mention you in the NG, I
must be constantly on your mind as you often present your personal
evaluations of my behavior or character without any provocation
whatsoever. You might try obsessing about someone or something
else......trust me, I'm not worth the time you rather obviously put
into it.
If we were still discussing politics here, I'd ask if you ever met a
liberal that you *did* like, but we aren't, so I won't. :-)

You're entitled to your opinion. Carry on.



But the question remains...which ranks higher in Bert's opinion..."an
asshole," or, "an arrogant SOB"?

Well, you kinda need the former ....

RCE

Pardon me, but I feel compelled to speak up on behalf of my fellow
"Arrogant SOB's" just about here. Even the lowliest form of life with a
digestive system has an asshole. It takes
a bit of misguided intellect and screwed over attitude to rise to the
stature of "Arrogant, SOB." :-)


Plus, you can always claim to be backed up by the former as well ...

RCE

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wrote in message
ps.com...


Reggie, we might need to consider being patient with some of the
formerly active posters here. With most of the threads now
concentrating on boats and boating related matters and almost no
politics at all....(hoooo......raaaay!!).........there are certainly
various individuals who have never demonstrated an interest in or
capacity to discuss boats; some who might be feeling a bit "left out"
if they can't fire up a good old fashioned rec.boats flame war or steer
discussion to Bush, Iraq, Liberals, Conservatives, or other
controversial topics.


Chuck, are you trying to steer the discussion to Bush, Iraq, Liberals,
Conservatives, or other controversial topics? ; )

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On Thu, 02 Feb 2006 15:22:57 -0600, Skipper wrote:

wrote:

You still run into people who are just beginning to shop for a boat who
will say, "I don't know much about boats, but I do know that all
Bayliners are crap." If that's what they think they know, then they
don't actually know anything about boats at all.

That pretty much describes Harry...and a few folks who like to think
they actually know boats.

a troll
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'Til next time,

John H

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