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Holy Poop!!! We're addicted to Oil!!!
With twin 150 gallon tanks, I already knew this. What sort of illusory
plan was floated in order to wean us from this nasty drug? Just say no?? jps |
Holy Poop!!! We're addicted to Oil!!!
"jps" wrote in message ... With twin 150 gallon tanks, I already knew this. What sort of illusory plan was floated in order to wean us from this nasty drug? Just say no?? The best way to break this addiction is through technology. Since 2001, we have spent nearly $10 billion to develop cleaner, cheaper and more reliable alternative energy sources. And we are on the threshold of incredible advances. So tonight I announce the Advanced Energy Initiative -- a 22 percent increase in clean-energy research at the Department of Energy to push for breakthroughs in two vital areas. To change how we power our homes and offices, we will invest more in zero-emission coal-fired plants; revolutionary solar and wind technologies; and clean, safe nuclear energy. We must also change how we power our automobiles. We will increase our research in better batteries for hybrid and electric cars and in pollution-free cars that run on hydrogen. We will also fund additional research in cutting-edge methods of producing ethanol, not just from corn but from wood chips and stalks or switch grass. Our goal is to make this new kind of ethanol practical and competitive within six years. Breakthroughs on this and other new technologies will help us reach another great goal: to replace more than 75 percent of our oil imports from the Middle East by 2025. By applying the talent and technology of America, this country can dramatically improve our environment, move beyond a petroleum- based economy and make our dependence on Middle Eastern oil a thing of the past. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bush almost sounded like algore, eh? |
Holy Poop!!! We're addicted to Oil!!!
With twin 150 gallon tanks, I already knew this. What sort of illusory
plan was floated in order to wean us from this nasty drug? Just say no?? Our boat also has two 150 gallon tanks but with 1500+ mile range, I don't feel we are "addicted." NOYB wrote: The best way to break this addiction is through technology. Since 2001, we have spent nearly $10 billion to develop cleaner, cheaper and more reliable alternative energy sources..... --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bush almost sounded like algore, eh? Only he mispronounced some of the big words, and he displays a sense of humor. DSK |
Holy Poop!!! We're addicted to Oil!!!
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... NOYB wrote: "jps" wrote in message ... With twin 150 gallon tanks, I already knew this. What sort of illusory plan was floated in order to wean us from this nasty drug? Just say no?? The best way to break this addiction is through technology. Since 2001, we have spent nearly $10 billion to develop cleaner, cheaper and more reliable alternative energy sources. And we are on the threshold of incredible advances. So tonight I announce the Advanced Energy Initiative -- a 22 percent increase in clean-energy research at the Department of Energy to push for breakthroughs in two vital areas. To change how we power our homes and offices, we will invest more in zero-emission coal-fired plants; revolutionary solar and wind technologies; and clean, safe nuclear energy. We must also change how we power our automobiles. We will increase our research in better batteries for hybrid and electric cars and in pollution-free cars that run on hydrogen. We will also fund additional research in cutting-edge methods of producing ethanol, not just from corn but from wood chips and stalks or switch grass. Our goal is to make this new kind of ethanol practical and competitive within six years. Breakthroughs on this and other new technologies will help us reach another great goal: to replace more than 75 percent of our oil imports from the Middle East by 2025. By applying the talent and technology of America, this country can dramatically improve our environment, move beyond a petroleum- based economy and make our dependence on Middle Eastern oil a thing of the past. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bush almost sounded like algore, eh? Uh, no. He sounded as if he were trying his best to read a script, but still needed the scroll in English at the bottom of the screen. Algore can read aloud. Of course you noticed that Bush's approval rating (according to Rasmussen) was at 48% before the speech. I expect the SOTU address to add 5-7 points to his approval rating over the next three days. He'll be in the low to mid 50's by the weekend. |
Holy Poop!!! We're addicted to Oil!!!
DSK wrote:
Our boat also has two 150 gallon tanks.... Mys Terry wrote: Try going cold turkey. Thanks, Bill, the prosecutor wants more evidence that you're stalking. Following me to other newsgroups is great! DSK |
Holy Poop!!! We're addicted to Oil!!!
On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 13:42:29 +0000, NOYB wrote:
Breakthroughs on this and other new technologies will help us reach another great goal: to replace more than 75 percent of our oil imports from the Middle East by 2025. I don't want to rain on your parade, but do you know how much of our oil imports come from the middle east? Now if he had said 75% of all our imports . . . It's nice to see your side coming around to an old idea. Carter proposed complete energy independence by 2000, but then Reagan believed the market would solve the problem and dismantled Carter's programs. |
Holy Poop!!! We're addicted to Oil!!!
Mys Terry wrote:
Douggles, you're nuts. I've been here for years. Prove it. And you have certainly not been replying to my posts with remarks taken from other newsgroups "for years." ...Please provide the "prosecutor's" phone number. I'll be happy to talk to your imaginary friend. Find it yourself. I thought you were very good at looking up phone numbers? You started it, Bill. It may amount to nothing ...although I got a report yesterday that gave me more info than you probably want me to have... or it may result in you paying the price for the nasty jerk-off criminal acts you seem to enjoy. I don't know what other nefariousness & hackery you've been attempting, but others do. The investigation may amount to nothing, or it may result in you paying a high price. You started it, now you can't stop it... neither can I actually. DSK |
Holy Poop!!! We're addicted to Oil!!!
"DSK" wrote in message ... DSK wrote: Our boat also has two 150 gallon tanks.... Mys Terry wrote: Try going cold turkey. Thanks, Bill, the prosecutor wants more evidence that you're stalking. Following me to other newsgroups is great! Excellent! Glad to see you have a fan base (not!) elsewhere. |
Holy Poop!!! We're addicted to Oil!!!
Thanks, Bill, the prosecutor wants more evidence that you're stalking.
Following me to other newsgroups is great! NOYB wrote: Excellent! Glad to see you have a fan base (not!) elsewhere. You're following the Karl Rove principle that the enemy of your enemy is your friend, right? You realize that's how the Bush Administration has gotten into some of it's... shall we say, less savory... situations. You may find it to be so in this case, also. DSK |
Holy Poop!!! We're addicted to Oil!!!
Mys Terry wrote:
The burdenm of proof is entirely on you, bozo. Actually, it isn't. The 'burden of proof' is on the state, in the case of your eventually being prosecuted. How likely is that, Bill? I don't really know. Ya feel lucky? You started it, now you can't stop it... neither can I actually. DSK Funny how you can't provide ANYTHING of substance. Pretty strong reaction there, Bill. Who are you trying to convince? Heck, I haven't even heard from my ISP for violations of their rules - because I haven't violated them. Actually, you may have heard more than you wanted... if (as I suspect) you work for a web service company... and if so, you are open for prosecution of a more serious nature as well as losing your job. DSK |
Holy Poop!!! We're addicted to Oil!!!
"thunder" wrote in message ... On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 13:42:29 +0000, NOYB wrote: Breakthroughs on this and other new technologies will help us reach another great goal: to replace more than 75 percent of our oil imports from the Middle East by 2025. I don't want to rain on your parade, but do you know how much of our oil imports come from the middle east? Now if he had said 75% of all our imports . . . I don't believe the continuation of oil imported from Canada and Mexico is particularly in jeopardy. But the Middle East is a powder keg. Europe gets 30% of its oil from the Middle East, and Japan gets 2/3 of its oil from there. If the Middle East falls into total chaos, and al Qaeda gets control of the oil, the ripple effect felt here would be horrendous. There's not just a US oil market. There's a world oil market. And a problem in one supply area affects prices everywhere. |
Holy Poop!!! We're addicted to Oil!!!
"Mys Terry" wrote in message ... Woo Hoo! I see the boys from the Wild, Wild West show have dropped in for a visit. :-) RCE |
Holy Poop!!! We're addicted to Oil!!!
"DSK" wrote in message ... Thanks, Bill, the prosecutor wants more evidence that you're stalking. Following me to other newsgroups is great! NOYB wrote: Excellent! Glad to see you have a fan base (not!) elsewhere. You're following the Karl Rove principle that the enemy of your enemy is your friend, right? You're not my enemy, Doug. I consider you more like my "project". |
Holy Poop!!! We're addicted to Oil!!!
"RCE" wrote in message ... "Mys Terry" wrote in message ... Woo Hoo! I see the boys from the Wild, Wild West show have dropped in for a visit. :-) RCE Just foul mouthed Rusty RedCloud using a new handle. |
Holy Poop!!! We're addicted to Oil!!!
NOYB wrote:
You're not my enemy, Doug. I consider you more like my "project". I don't consider you an enemy either... you've too good a sense of humor. But as for being a project, I'm too old to become an indoctrinated socialist true-believer! DSK |
Holy Poop!!! We're addicted to Oil!!!
On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 15:27:28 GMT, Mys Terry
wrote: So, there is no prosecutor. Poor Douggles. Another fantasy bites the dust. ============================= Some of the phrasing reminds me of JaxAshby. He was from the New York area if my memory is correct. |
Holy Poop!!! We're addicted to Oil!!!
On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 16:26:57 +0000, NOYB wrote:
"thunder" wrote in message ... On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 13:42:29 +0000, NOYB wrote: Breakthroughs on this and other new technologies will help us reach another great goal: to replace more than 75 percent of our oil imports from the Middle East by 2025. I don't want to rain on your parade, but do you know how much of our oil imports come from the middle east? Now if he had said 75% of all our imports . . . I don't believe the continuation of oil imported from Canada and Mexico is particularly in jeopardy. But the Middle East is a powder keg. Europe gets 30% of its oil from the Middle East, and Japan gets 2/3 of its oil from there. If the Middle East falls into total chaos, and al Qaeda gets control of the oil, the ripple effect felt here would be horrendous. There's not just a US oil market. There's a world oil market. And a problem in one supply area affects prices everywhere. I'm not denying that, but if memory serves, we get around 12% of our oil from the middle east. Cutting that my 75% is better that a sharp stick in the eye, but it ain't going to change the oil situation by very much. I also have my doubts about ethanol. Our agriculture sector is very oil intensive, fertilizers, tractors, transport, etc. It's my limited understanding that there isn't much of an oil savings by using ethanol. |
Holy Poop!!! We're addicted to Oil!!!
"thunder" wrote in message ... I also have my doubts about ethanol. Our agriculture sector is very oil intensive, fertilizers, tractors, transport, etc. It's my limited understanding that there isn't much of an oil savings by using ethanol. Plus, ethanol is proving to have a bigger pollution problem than gas. RCE |
Holy Poop!!! We're addicted to Oil!!!
Mys Terry wrote:
On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 12:00:17 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 15:27:28 GMT, Mys Terry wrote: So, there is no prosecutor. Poor Douggles. Another fantasy bites the dust. ============================= Some of the phrasing reminds me of JaxAshby. He was from the New York area if my memory is correct. Oh, lordy! Damn..you don't plan to post pictures of you in a Speedo again, do you? |
Holy Poop!!! We're addicted to Oil!!!
"thunder" wrote in message ... On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 16:26:57 +0000, NOYB wrote: "thunder" wrote in message ... On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 13:42:29 +0000, NOYB wrote: Breakthroughs on this and other new technologies will help us reach another great goal: to replace more than 75 percent of our oil imports from the Middle East by 2025. I don't want to rain on your parade, but do you know how much of our oil imports come from the middle east? Now if he had said 75% of all our imports . . . I don't believe the continuation of oil imported from Canada and Mexico is particularly in jeopardy. But the Middle East is a powder keg. Europe gets 30% of its oil from the Middle East, and Japan gets 2/3 of its oil from there. If the Middle East falls into total chaos, and al Qaeda gets control of the oil, the ripple effect felt here would be horrendous. There's not just a US oil market. There's a world oil market. And a problem in one supply area affects prices everywhere. I'm not denying that, but if memory serves, we get around 12% of our oil from the middle east. I believe it's 20%...but I'll have to check. Cutting that my 75% is better that a sharp stick in the eye, but it ain't going to change the oil situation by very much. Sure it would. We consume 20,000,000 barrels per day. 20% of 20 million is 400,000 barrels/day. There are probably only two dozen other countries that consume more than that in a day. I also have my doubts about ethanol. Our agriculture sector is very oil intensive, fertilizers, tractors, transport, etc. It's my limited understanding that there isn't much of an oil savings by using ethanol. I believe I heard that too. |
Holy Poop!!! We're addicted to Oil!!!
NOYB wrote:
"thunder" wrote in message ... On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 16:26:57 +0000, NOYB wrote: "thunder" wrote in message ... On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 13:42:29 +0000, NOYB wrote: Breakthroughs on this and other new technologies will help us reach another great goal: to replace more than 75 percent of our oil imports from the Middle East by 2025. I don't want to rain on your parade, but do you know how much of our oil imports come from the middle east? Now if he had said 75% of all our imports . . . I don't believe the continuation of oil imported from Canada and Mexico is particularly in jeopardy. But the Middle East is a powder keg. Europe gets 30% of its oil from the Middle East, and Japan gets 2/3 of its oil from there. If the Middle East falls into total chaos, and al Qaeda gets control of the oil, the ripple effect felt here would be horrendous. There's not just a US oil market. There's a world oil market. And a problem in one supply area affects prices everywhere. I'm not denying that, but if memory serves, we get around 12% of our oil from the middle east. I believe it's 20%...but I'll have to check. Cutting that my 75% is better that a sharp stick in the eye, but it ain't going to change the oil situation by very much. Sure it would. We consume 20,000,000 barrels per day. 20% of 20 million is 400,000 barrels/day. There are probably only two dozen other countries that consume more than that in a day. I also have my doubts about ethanol. Our agriculture sector is very oil intensive, fertilizers, tractors, transport, etc. It's my limited understanding that there isn't much of an oil savings by using ethanol. I believe I heard that too. The story I heard is it actually uses more fuel to use ethanol and their is no evidence it reduces pollution. It is strictly a way to buy votes in the Midwest states. -- Reggie ************************************************** ************* That's my story and I am sticking to it. ************************************************** ************* |
Holy Poop!!! We're addicted to Oil!!!
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Holy Poop!!! We're addicted to Oil!!!
"jps" wrote in message ... In article , says... With twin 150 gallon tanks, I already knew this. What sort of illusory plan was floated in order to wean us from this nasty drug? Just say no?? Our boat also has two 150 gallon tanks but with 1500+ mile range, I don't feel we are "addicted." I always hated the smell of diesel exhaust, still do. I might find a reason to put up with it in the future. Gasoline was $1.33 when we purchased our gas hog. jps Few modern diesels stink much anymore while underway (unless there's something wrong). I can smell mine when I first start them at the dock, but once underway and they warm up nobody has ever noticed any smell, even with a stiff following wind. RCE |
Holy Poop!!! We're addicted to Oil!!!
The best way to break this addiction is through technology. Since 2001, we have spent nearly $10 billion to develop cleaner, cheaper and more reliable alternative energy sources. And we are on the threshold of incredible advances. So tonight I announce the Advanced Energy Initiative -- a 22 percent increase in clean-energy research at the Department of Energy to push for breakthroughs in two vital areas. To change how we power our homes and offices, we will invest more in zero-emission coal-fired plants; revolutionary solar and wind technologies; and clean, safe nuclear energy. We must also change how we power our automobiles. We will increase our research in better batteries for hybrid and electric cars and in pollution-free cars that run on hydrogen. We will also fund additional research in cutting-edge methods of producing ethanol, not just from corn but from wood chips and stalks or switch grass. Our goal is to make this new kind of ethanol practical and competitive within six years. Breakthroughs on this and other new technologies will help us reach another great goal: to replace more than 75 percent of our oil imports from the Middle East by 2025. By applying the talent and technology of America, this country can dramatically improve our environment, move beyond a petroleum- based economy and make our dependence on Middle Eastern oil a thing of the past. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- Bush almost sounded like algore, eh? Heard this same kinda rant 30 yrs. ago, after the last oil/energy crisis. Nothing but a bunch of BS politics! It'll all go away if we just do nothing long enough.... ;-b |
Holy Poop!!! We're addicted to Oil!!!
NOYB wrote:
I don't believe the continuation of oil imported from Canada and Mexico is particularly in jeopardy. But the Middle East is a powder keg. Ah yes, back to the holy poop threads. Oh joy! -- Skipper |
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