On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 17:31:37 -0500, "RCE" wrote:


"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
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If you prefer to respond and show your disgust with that kind of behavior
feel free, this is a non moderated NG. Also know that that is exactly
what they want, and your response will be responsible for numerous other
posts of the same kind.

This is not my opinion, it is the opinion of 100% of the UseNet Experts.
You will not be able to find 1 UseNet Expert who would recommend
responding to an obvious troll.

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Reggie

Skipper's not your average troll. He often has exhibited a level of above
average intelligence in some of his posts and has occasionally contributed
some interesting POVs on subjects kicked around here. Unfortunately, he has
a dark side, probably a result of his early years of social conditioning
that spoils an otherwise potentially decent person. His bigoted themes are
usually carefully veiled so, taken by themselves can be subject to
interpretation, thus the "trolling" aspect of his posts. Over time however a
trend emerges and there is no longer any doubt as to his intent. His latest
offering was not his best effort ... it left no room for interpretation.

RCE


There is a small minority who seem to have one goal, to drag this group
into the gutter.

It's a shame.
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'Til next time,

John H

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JohnH wrote:

Skipper's not your average troll. He often has exhibited a level of above
average intelligence in some of his posts and has occasionally contributed
some interesting POVs on subjects kicked around here.
RCE

There is a small minority who seem to have one goal, to drag this group
into the gutter.

It's a shame.

Then I take it you're for a democratically administered and monitored
rec.boats. Or can we count you among the minority preferring continued
anarchy?

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Skipper

Skipper wrote:
JohnH wrote:


Skipper's not your average troll. He often has exhibited a level of above
average intelligence in some of his posts and has occasionally contributed
some interesting POVs on subjects kicked around here.
RCE


There is a small minority who seem to have one goal, to drag this group
into the gutter.



It's a shame.


Then I take it you're for a democratically administered and monitored
rec.boats. Or can we count you among the minority preferring continued
anarchy?

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Skipper

I think it's the majority that reject your monitoring Skippy.

Don White wrote:

I think it's the majority that reject your monitoring Skippy.

I never proffered being the monitor, Don. I did suggest a committee of
*NG elected* monitors to restore the NG to its previously interesting
open and far more civil format. We would *all* decide just what that
format would be in the month of discussion and voting on the charter. I
suspect the end result would be far less political and flame throwing
threads. Suspect I'd have a far easier time abiding by a responsible NG
charter than you would, however. Some of us would find ourselves
severely challenged if we primarily discussed boats 'n boating, eh, Don?

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Skipper

On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 16:11:30 -0600, Skipper wrote:

Don White wrote:

I think it's the majority that reject your monitoring Skippy.

I never proffered being the monitor, Don. I did suggest a committee of
*NG elected* monitors to restore the NG to its previously interesting
open and far more civil format. We would *all* decide just what that
format would be in the month of discussion and voting on the charter. I
suspect the end result would be far less political and flame throwing
threads. Suspect I'd have a far easier time abiding by a responsible NG
charter than you would, however. Some of us would find ourselves
severely challenged if we primarily discussed boats 'n boating, eh, Don?

Skipper, Chuck posted a challenge that many of us accepted and have tried
to maintain. A few have decided they'd rather sling mud.

Is rec.boats.cruising a 'monitored' group? I think not. Yet they manage
quite well. Why? How often do you see a political/religious thread over
there? How often do you see a political/religious thread here that doesn't
become a name-calling free-for-all.

Monitor yourself. Urge others to monitor themselves.
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'Til next time,

John H

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JohnH wrote:

Is rec.boats.cruising a 'monitored' group? I think not. Yet they manage
quite well. Why? How often do you see a political/religious thread over
there? How often do you see a political/religious thread here that doesn't
become a name-calling free-for-all.

It just won't work here, John...for many reasons. The only hope for
alt.sailing.asa and this NG is democratic monitoring. Monitors who allow
off-topic, differing views and lively discussions, but keep it within
bounds. I think we all know when it goes to far. Sans monitors, there's
just no reasonable way to bring it back from the small-minded off-topic
chatroom and flamefest it has become.

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Skipper

On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 17:27:02 -0600, Skipper wrote:

JohnH wrote:

Is rec.boats.cruising a 'monitored' group? I think not. Yet they manage
quite well. Why? How often do you see a political/religious thread over
there? How often do you see a political/religious thread here that doesn't
become a name-calling free-for-all.

It just won't work here, John...for many reasons. The only hope for
alt.sailing.asa and this NG is democratic monitoring. Monitors who allow
off-topic, differing views and lively discussions, but keep it within
bounds. I think we all know when it goes to far. Sans monitors, there's
just no reasonable way to bring it back from the small-minded off-topic
chatroom and flamefest it has become.

I made no mention of alt.sailing.asa. Never been there. I mentioned
rec.boats.cruising. You've been there. It's not monitored. It doesn't
suffer the problems of this group. Why?

We have a small minority of posters who are trollers. We have a small
minority of posters who can't resist getting hooked.
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'Til next time,

John H

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Skipper wrote:
Don White wrote:


I think it's the majority that reject your monitoring Skippy.


I never proffered being the monitor, Don. I did suggest a committee of
*NG elected* monitors to restore the NG to its previously interesting
open and far more civil format. We would *all* decide just what that
format would be in the month of discussion and voting on the charter. I
suspect the end result would be far less political and flame throwing
threads. Suspect I'd have a far easier time abiding by a responsible NG
charter than you would, however. Some of us would find ourselves
severely challenged if we primarily discussed boats 'n boating, eh, Don?

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Skipper

I'd probably be reduced to reading and regurgitating other sailors
adventures...such as cruises in exotic locations like.....the Sea of
Cortes etc.

On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 15:32:54 -0600, Skipper wrote:

JohnH wrote:

Skipper's not your average troll. He often has exhibited a level of above
average intelligence in some of his posts and has occasionally contributed
some interesting POVs on subjects kicked around here.
RCE

There is a small minority who seem to have one goal, to drag this group
into the gutter.

It's a shame.

Then I take it you're for a democratically administered and monitored
rec.boats. Or can we count you among the minority preferring continued
anarchy?

No, I'm for the small minority growing up.
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'Til next time,

John H

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JohnH wrote:

Then I take it you're for a democratically administered and monitored
rec.boats. Or can we count you among the minority preferring continued
anarchy?

No, I'm for the small minority growing up.

Do you do your tallying in quantity of posts or contributors?

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Skipper