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[email protected] January 27th 06 07:36 PM

Time to retire the name.
 

RCE wrote:
"Bryan" wrote in message
. com...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
I've been using the "handle" "Eisboch" since my early days on the net
back in 1989 or '90. I had a super modern 286 computer, 13mhz clock
speed and a huge hard drive with 20 mbytes of storage space. It ran on
DOS with a pre-MSWindows software suite called "GeoWorks". GeoWorks
actually had a windows type format and even included a word processing
program called "GeoWrite". I signed onto an internet access through
Prodigy and was heavily involved in some of the midi sequencing groups
and "chat" rooms. You had to have a screen name, so I became "Eisboch"
because I happened to be drinking a Coors Eisboch blend that night.

Anyway, it's time to retire the handle. Mrs.E thinks it's stupid, and I
am getting kind of tired of it anyway.

From now on I shall be known as ......

"Sam Adams"

Just kidding.

RCE




Nice to meet you, Mr. RCE.
You started with one of them fancy high-powered 286's of which I could
only dream! I started with the 8086 xt and a 20, yes 20, MB HDD. I loved
my DOS; I didn't understand why people needed all that Mac and Windows
nonsense. DOS: just tell your computer what to do and it did it! Simple
as that. Remember when the excitement of opening a gif meant starting the
process and coming back after dinner to see if the gif had finished
filling in all the pixels? I actually started with an Apple (was it
IIC?), encountered a mac in grad school, and switched to the DOS world
when I couldn't find a mac program that could handle the graphical
representation (believe it or not) of my lab data. Boy that was a long
time ago!


It is. My super fast "Pal" 286 even ran CADD 1, an early cad design
program. CADD was developed through version 6 as a DOS only program then was
bought out by Autodesk (Autocad). CADD was recently re-introduced in a
Windows version and I just downloaded a copy. It's like old times.

The Pal had a normal clock speed of 8 mhz, but had a "turbo" button that,
when pushed, took it to a lightning fast 13 mhz.

RCE


I did a lot of cad work on a 286 with a 12 mhz processor. When Autocad
came out, I was right there, and then you needed a math coprocessor.
Autocad ran under DOS long after windows became popular. I think
release 10 or 11 was the first to truly run under windows.


JohnH January 27th 06 07:53 PM

Time to retire the name.
 
On 27 Jan 2006 11:25:12 -0800, wrote:


JohnH wrote:
On 27 Jan 2006 08:45:32 -0800,
wrote:


JohnH wrote:
On 27 Jan 2006 05:16:49 -0800,
wrote:


Eisboch wrote:
I've been using the "handle" "Eisboch" since my early days on the net back
in 1989 or '90. I had a super modern 286 computer, 13mhz clock speed and a
huge hard drive with 20 mbytes of storage space. It ran on DOS with a
pre-MSWindows software suite called "GeoWorks". GeoWorks actually had a
windows type format and even included a word processing program called
"GeoWrite". I signed onto an internet access through Prodigy and was
heavily involved in some of the midi sequencing groups and "chat" rooms.
You had to have a screen name, so I became "Eisboch" because I happened to
be drinking a Coors Eisboch blend that night.

Anyway, it's time to retire the handle. Mrs.E thinks it's stupid, and I am
getting kind of tired of it anyway.

From now on I shall be known as ......

"Sam Adams"

Just kidding.

RCE

Man...GeoWorks.....THAT brings back memories! It was the first
graphical interface I used. I was anti-windows, because anything
graphical like that slowed my computer down too much. Besides that,
most programs at that time were still DOS based. Oh, I had prodigy,
also! I remember a guy I was going to school with bought a 386 that ran
at 20Mhz. I thought he was the cat's ass with that thing... I was SO
jealous! Oh, and remember, to get any real speed out of them, you had
to add a math coprocesser!!

BTW, bassie, did I tell you I loved NASA's World Wind? Great program.
--
'Til next time,

John H
Oh, and I can't wait till someone's birthday comes up.... thanks!


You're welcome! Hell, I sent one to you and to Chuck, but hadn't heard
anything. I figured I'd get a lot of complaints about the caterwauling',
but then I figured y'all didn't get the emails.
--

It's hard to reply when you've been humbled by a star!!!!!!


Yeah, right...
--
'Til next time,

John H

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Reggie Smithers January 28th 06 12:08 AM

Time to retire the name.
 
Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 10:12:57 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 07:07:15 GMT, "Bryan"
wrote:

I forgot all about dot matrix printers. I realized the other day that my
kids have no idea about the punch cards!

Punched cards were hi tech. I started on punched paper tape with no
real editing capability. We had this huge clunky machine called a
Burroughs Flexowriter with a keyboard which punched the tape. The
computer was a Control Data 160A, as big as a desk, 4K of memory and
it cost about $80K circa 1967. To compile and run a Fortran program
it was first necessary to read the tape with the boot loader, then the
tape with the Fortran compiler, followed by the source code tape
(twice), and finally it would spit out a new tape with the object code
on it. At that point you were ready to re-boot and test your program.


i was in the math club in high school - '62/63 - and one of our
projects was to help program the mainframe at sylvania in danvers, ma.

with telephone jacks.

and ladders.

and vacuum tubes.

Tom,
I didn't know anyone who was in the math club. Did you have a pocket
protector and a slide rule strapped to your belt? ; )

Up till the early 70's all the Engineer Students kept a slide rule on
their belt, and most had a slide rule.

--
Reggie
************************************************** *************
That's my story and I am sticking to it.

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Wayne.B January 28th 06 01:37 AM

Time to retire the name.
 
On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 23:52:30 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

i was in the math club in high school - '62/63 - and one of our
projects was to help program the mainframe at sylvania in danvers, ma.

with telephone jacks.

and ladders.

and vacuum tubes.


Analog or digital?

I remember when Heathkit was selling an analog computer kit sometime
back in the early 60s.


jabadoodle January 29th 06 12:02 AM

Time to retire the name.
 

Procomm ?



Wayne.B January 30th 06 02:05 AM

Time to retire the name.
 
On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 19:02:04 -0500, "jabadoodle"
wrote:


Procomm ?


Don't think so, doesn't sound right.


FREDO January 30th 06 12:45 PM

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"Bryan" wrote in message
. com...

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
ink.net...

"RCE" wrote in message
...

"Bryan" wrote in message
. com...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
I've been using the "handle" "Eisboch" since my early days on the
net back in 1989 or '90. I had a super modern 286 computer, 13mhz
clock speed and a huge hard drive with 20 mbytes of storage space. It
ran on DOS with a pre-MSWindows software suite called "GeoWorks".
GeoWorks actually had a windows type format and even included a word
processing program called "GeoWrite". I signed onto an internet
access through Prodigy and was heavily involved in some of the midi
sequencing groups and "chat" rooms. You had to have a screen name, so
I became "Eisboch" because I happened to be drinking a Coors Eisboch
blend that night.

Anyway, it's time to retire the handle. Mrs.E thinks it's stupid, and
I am getting kind of tired of it anyway.

From now on I shall be known as ......

"Sam Adams"

Just kidding.

RCE




Nice to meet you, Mr. RCE.
You started with one of them fancy high-powered 286's of which I could
only dream! I started with the 8086 xt and a 20, yes 20, MB HDD. I
loved my DOS; I didn't understand why people needed all that Mac and
Windows nonsense. DOS: just tell your computer what to do and it did
it! Simple as that. Remember when the excitement of opening a gif
meant starting the process and coming back after dinner to see if the
gif had finished filling in all the pixels? I actually started with an
Apple (was it IIC?), encountered a mac in grad school, and switched to
the DOS world when I couldn't find a mac program that could handle the
graphical representation (believe it or not) of my lab data. Boy that
was a long time ago!


It is. My super fast "Pal" 286 even ran CADD 1, an early cad design
program. CADD was developed through version 6 as a DOS only program then
was bought out by Autodesk (Autocad). CADD was recently re-introduced
in a Windows version and I just downloaded a copy. It's like old times.

The Pal had a normal clock speed of 8 mhz, but had a "turbo" button
that, when pushed, took it to a lightning fast 13 mhz.

RCE


I started out on the Internet with a DEC PDP. Probably an 11/05 but
maybe an 11/34. Still have a great spicy peanut noodle recipe printed on
dot matrix printer. When it was a text only world. Except for ascii
art.


I forgot all about dot matrix printers. I realized the other day that my
kids have no idea about the punch cards!



I started out with a commodore 64 and a 300 baud modem on a service called
Quantum Link (Q-Link) for short. I think it evolved into AOL. My "handle was
Fredo5.
Our family used to have a lot of fun on Sat night with the Music Oldies
Trivia contest hosted in the Q-Link chat rooms. Back then if you won a MOT
contest you got a couple of free hours of service and if you hosted a game
you would get 4 hours of free service credited to your account.





RCE January 30th 06 01:37 PM

Time to retire the name.
 

"FREDO" wrote in message
. ..




I started out with a commodore 64 and a 300 baud modem on a service called
Quantum Link (Q-Link) for short. I think it evolved into AOL. My "handle
was Fredo5.
Our family used to have a lot of fun on Sat night with the Music Oldies
Trivia contest hosted in the Q-Link chat rooms. Back then if you won a MOT
contest you got a couple of free hours of service and if you hosted a game
you would get 4 hours of free service credited to your account.



I used to host a bulletin board/chat room on Prodigy for midi enthusiasts.
For that, I received free Prodigy access. (still have the ID number taped to
the old Yamaha keyboard).
We used to composes songs by passing the files around to different
participants and each would add a track to the composition. Great fun, but
slow. Some of the music was very good by the time it was done and edited.

RCE



RCE January 30th 06 01:47 PM

Time to retire the name.
 

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...

almost actually. there was a lot of interest in the ham community
with tcp/ip and a lot of hams were working for dec, data general and
ibm at the time. plus we were very close to mit and bolt, beranek and
newman where there were a lot of hams and the flow of information was
incredible - it was hard to keep advances in digital communications a
big secret in those days. as soon as somebody had a new product or
new approach to a problem, everybody else knew it within 24 to 36
hours - thus, the forced product cycle was amazing.


Certainly the concept of digital communications has been around for much
longer than computers or the Internet. Morse code is a form of digital
communications. I used to work on teletype machines using tape readers to
send messages at 100 wpm using FSK (frequency shift keying) modes on the
transmitters. All digital. In fact, teletype was 8 bit. A start bit, six
information bits and a stop bit for each "word". Basically 50's technology.

RCE



DSK January 30th 06 01:52 PM

Time to retire the name.
 
I used to host a bulletin board/chat room on Prodigy for midi enthusiasts.
For that, I received free Prodigy access. (still have the ID number taped to
the old Yamaha keyboard).
We used to composes songs by passing the files around to different
participants and each would add a track to the composition. Great fun, but
slow. Some of the music was very good by the time it was done and edited.



Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
you wouldnt want to share a few of those files would you?


I was just about to say the same thing.

DSK



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