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On 21 Jan 2006 09:31:38 -0800, "markvictor"
wrote: "The first part of the answer in determining how deadrise affects performance is another question: deadrise measured where? If the angle between a horizontal plane tangent to the keel and the chine is measured just aft of the bow, most modern boats will measure around 45° or more. If measured just forward of the stern, the deadrise may be as little as 5°. The days when deep-V hulls carried the same high angle of deadrise nearly constantly from bow to stern is long gone. Why? Because they didn't perform very well." Hey John, this is a pretty fair explanation of the reason for using a measurement somewhat forward of the transom for a published spec...It's not so much of an average angle, as it is the angle at the widest "wetted" area of the hull at speed..the low deadrise at stern provides stability, especially with engines mounted well aft.. a high angle carried all the way aft tends to make a boat "porpoise" at speed...too low an angle causes instability when turning at speet, too rapid a transition and you get a boat that meanders at low speed, and can develop low pressure areas at speed that can negate lift or planing ability.. The definition you provided makes perfect sense! I've just always thought incorrectly. Thanks for screwing my head on properly. -- John H ******Have a spectacular day!****** |
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JohnH wrote:
On 21 Jan 2006 09:31:38 -0800, "markvictor" wrote: "The first part of the answer in determining how deadrise affects performance is another question: deadrise measured where? If the angle between a horizontal plane tangent to the keel and the chine is measured just aft of the bow, most modern boats will measure around 45° or more. If measured just forward of the stern, the deadrise may be as little as 5°. The days when deep-V hulls carried the same high angle of deadrise nearly constantly from bow to stern is long gone. Why? Because they didn't perform very well." Hey John, this is a pretty fair explanation of the reason for using a measurement somewhat forward of the transom for a published spec...It's not so much of an average angle, as it is the angle at the widest "wetted" area of the hull at speed..the low deadrise at stern provides stability, especially with engines mounted well aft.. a high angle carried all the way aft tends to make a boat "porpoise" at speed...too low an angle causes instability when turning at speet, too rapid a transition and you get a boat that meanders at low speed, and can develop low pressure areas at speed that can negate lift or planing ability.. The definition you provided makes perfect sense! I've just always thought incorrectly. Thanks for screwing my head on properly. -- John H ******Have a spectacular day!****** Evidently deadrise must only refer to the angle of the hull at no specific point. Every spec I've read in new boat catalogs reference the "deadrise at transom". This definition agrees: http://www.boats.com/glossary/D.jsp There are others that refer to the widest part of the boat. I guess the moral of this story is no one can simply refer to "deadrise" without adding the point on the hull where it was measured. Dan |
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On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 16:07:00 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote: "This" newsgroup would be farther on the road to restoration if you, We wouldn't have to be restoring it, if it wasn't for the likes of you. Netsock, Smither, and a few others would simply crawl back into your caves of origin. You haven't added anything new, original, or of value since you were released from custody. Funny. You are by far the number one person, who has contaminated this group with OT garbage, political rants, insults, and lies. If you really care about this group, YOU crawl back under that rock you came out of. __ "It's just about going fast...that's all..." http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/ |
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"This" newsgroup would be farther on the road to restoration if you,
Netsock wrote: We wouldn't have to be restoring it, if it wasn't for the likes of you. Why can't you just ignore him? Harry is certainly a PITA but he's just one guy. Also, he occasionally posts about boats, which more than can be said of many of the fascist cretins obsessed with him. Then you go tossing personal barbs at Chuck, even going so far as to insult his wife. Are you proud of that? DSK |
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On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 09:10:14 -0500, DSK wrote:
Why can't you just ignore him? I can. In fact, Our Klass Klown Krause, is just a couple steps away from going back in the Krazy Kan. Harry is certainly a PITA but he's just one guy. Also, he occasionally posts about boats, which more than can be said of many of the fascist cretins obsessed with him. Krause is a liar...plain and simple. And his plagiarized boating posts don't even come close to offset his spewage ratio. Then you go tossing personal barbs at Chuck, even going so far as to insult his wife. Are you proud of that? Sorry sport...you've got me confused with some one else. __ "It's just about going fast...that's all..." http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/ |
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Netsock wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 16:07:00 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: "This" newsgroup would be farther on the road to restoration if you, We wouldn't have to be restoring it, if it wasn't for the likes of you. Netsock, Smither, and a few others would simply crawl back into your caves of origin. You haven't added anything new, original, or of value since you were released from custody. Funny. You are by far the number one person, who has contaminated this group with OT garbage, political rants, insults, and lies. If you really care about this group, YOU crawl back under that rock you came out of. __ "It's just about going fast...that's all..." http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/ Netsock, By paying him attention or even responding to him, you are giving him exactly what he wants, Ignore him, even if he makes insults or trolls for arguments and fights. -- Reggie ************************************************** ************* Q. What's the difference between a brown-noser and a ****-head? A. Depth perception. ************************************************** ************* |
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On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 09:49:23 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote: Deadrise can be measured at the transom, too. OR just about anywhere along the hull bottom. Traditionally, if the transom deadrise is not wanted, it is measured at the beamiest part of the boat, typically amidships. Somebody has been pokin' around on the net again... __ "It's just about going fast...that's all..." http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/ |
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Netsock wrote:
Harry Krause wrote: Deadrise can be measured at the transom, too. OR just about anywhere along the hull bottom. Somebody has been pokin' around on the net again... Krause *is* the jerk bait of this NG. -- Skipper |
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