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Calif Bill wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Calif Bill wrote:
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On 18 Jan 2006 17:26:57 -0800, wrote:

http://yachtworld.com/core/listing/p...g_id=1457&url=
boring....

Maybe you could request an auxiliary motor like that fast super yacht.
A
nice gas turbine.


I know a couple of inlets where you'd have a hard time coming in
against
an outgoing tide and a westerly wind with that boat.


The inside passage to Alaska has some current rips that look like rapids
during tide change. they say the trawlers all line up to make it through
at
slack tide. Want more power!

Actually, anybody with much time at all on our regional waters will try
to time their arrival for slack, or near abouts.
Here's why:

Most of those "rapids" result in moving a lot of water through a very
narrow passage. Imagine a 14-foot tide change (not uncommon here)
ebbing or flooding through a hundred yard wide, or less, opening. Even
*if* your boat has the power to run against the flow, it's ridiculous
to do so.

Example, Dodd Narrows. Maybe 40-50 yards wide, on average, with a bit
of turn involved. Rocks on both sides. There is a huge lumber mill just
north of Dodd, and there are log rafts running through there all the
time (at slack). With all the lumbering in the area, there is a
constant need to keep an eye out for drift. The guy who runs 18 knots
into the 6 knot current to net 12 knots thinks he's got the cat by the
pajamas.........until he gets an eyefull of the 2-foot diameter log,
dead ahead, sideways in the current, headed straight for his stem and
probably his props. No time or room to turn around...KER_CHUNK! Now
he's dead inthe water, drifting astern, out of control. No thanks. You
can separate the veterans from the greenhorns and the wannabe's around
here by watching which boats try to run one of these passes against a
serious flow. You can have all the power in the world at your command,
but the bottom line is that there's nobody steering that oncoming log.
Trawler boaters, like traditional seapeople everywhere, use tides,
currents, and often even wind to our advantage and plan our passages to
work *with* the forces of nature, rather than try to overpower them.

And, oh, yeah.... with 800 gallons of fuel this boat probably
approaches a 2000 mile range. Would last me about 2 years. :-) Some of
your "fast boats" burn half of that in a three day weekend runing maybe
200 total miles.


Props? Rapids? I have an aluminum jetboat!

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On 19 Jan 2006 07:49:34 -0800, wrote:

wall to
wall housing and civilization around our best cruising areas,

We don't really have that in SWFL, not yet anyway, and not in most
places. Some of the best cruising around here is in Pine Island Sound
which is mostly protected refuge of one sort or another.

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On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 12:31:28 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

You may believe what you wish. My belief is that most posters do not
want to engage you or your snottiness.

Right on that. My several attempts to engage in civil discourse have
ended in some sort of ill informed east/west diatribe. Some things
never seem to change in Kansas, even when rec.boats does.

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On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 12:33:47 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

"We pretty much stay out of the water," would pretty much mean I
wouldn't bother with a boat.

I agree. One of the attractions is south Florida is being able to
take your boat out to a nearly deserted beach on the barrier islands
and have the whole place pretty much to yourself for the afternoon.

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On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 14:34:20 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:

Yes. I have to go to the fishing grounds. And I'd prefer to not have to
leave the house at 11pm to be at the grounds by daybreak.

You go 50 miles out?

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Wayne.B wrote:
On 19 Jan 2006 01:05:30 -0800, wrote:

No need to go fast when you boat in
Paradise, you're "there" when you cast off. :-)

That's kind of the way we feel down here in SWFL.



My idea of "Paradise" includes lots of sunshine, temps in the 80s, warm
water. I believe that excludes the Pacific Northwest.


During portions of the year, we have everything except the warm water.
We pretty much stay out of the water.

I hardly ever go into the water down here either...except wading to shore
when I pull up by boat.

After fishing almost every weekend for the last 6 years, I've determined
that there are far too many sharks for my liking.

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On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 20:11:37 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:

I hardly ever go into the water down here either...except wading to shore
when I pull up by boat.

After fishing almost every weekend for the last 6 years, I've determined
that there are far too many sharks for my liking.

Which goes to show that you really shouldn't swim where you chum. :-)

I haven't heard of any west coast shark attacks in FL. Do you know of
any? Alligators seem to be more of a menace around here.

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"Skipper" wrote in message
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Harry Krause wrote:

My idea of "Paradise" includes lots of sunshine, temps in the 80s, warm
water. I believe that excludes the Pacific Northwest.

During portions of the year, we have everything except the warm water.
We pretty much stay out of the water.

Things we don't have a swarms of mosquitos,

When boating, the mosquitos don't bother me. But the no-see-ums suck.


oppresive humidity,

I'll take heat/humidity any day over cold/damp.

God designed to handle the heat with a built-in air conditioning system:
sweating and evaporation.

What did he give us to deal with cold? Shivering.



any
serious need for air conditioning on a boat,

And we don't have a serious need for a heater.

early summer sunsets,


???
Not sure what you mean here. It's light until 8:30 or 9 in the Summer.


manatees,

You got me there. They're nice to look at...but the slow zones designed to
protect them are a nuisance.

Of course, you have a trawler...so the slow zones wouldn't affect you in the
least bit.


overcrowded transient moorages (most of the time),

Ummm, there's a reason why our moorages are crowded and yours aren't.


wall to
wall housing and civilization around our best cruising areas,

There's very little housing lining Pine Island Sound, or the gulfside of
Sanibel, Captiva, and North Captiva.

And if you travel down from Everglades City to the Florida Keys, there's
zero civilization along the way.

But you do have some of the prettiest scenery up you way.

or a 30
or 40 mile run to someplace that fish are biting. :-)

Fish that I've regularly caught within 5 miles of sho

Gag grouper
80 lb. Jewfish (aka--Goliath Grouper)
Red Grouper
100 lb. Tarpon
100 lb+ Shark (grey, nurse, and even a baby hammerhead)
Snapper (grey, lane, yellowtail)
Grunts (key west and tomtate)
Sheepshead
Trigger fish
Kingfish
spanish mackeral
ladyfish
snook
redfish
black drum
bonito
barracuda
various other reef fish

Fish that I've caught from my dock:
snook
redfish
snapper
baby barracuda


I only head 30-40 miles offshore to catch the big 'uns: giant grouper,
smoker kings, blackfin tuna, and amberjack

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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 14:34:20 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:

Yes. I have to go to the fishing grounds. And I'd prefer to not have to
leave the house at 11pm to be at the grounds by daybreak.

You go 50 miles out?


Some of the wrecks that I plan on hitting this Spring are 50-70 miles from
sho

Bayronto
Fantastico
Stoney Point



Most of the rest of the time, I'm fishing anywhere from 0 to 25 miles
offshore. But I plan on making some runs to the Keys on long (3-4 day)
weekends once the cold fronts are done blowing through our area. A
slow-moving boat wouldn't work well for me...at least until I retire.