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Bryan January 12th 06 11:58 PM

People's Court: Small Claims Slip Fees
 
Man puts down $2000 for a slip with water and electricity.
Owner sold the property and new owner flipped the property.
Current owner doesn't honor access to water and electricity.

Boat owner keeps boat for 7 weeks at slip without water and electrical
(details unclear).
Boat owner wants $2000 refunded.

Judge says?



JimH January 12th 06 11:59 PM

People's Court: Small Claims Slip Fees
 

"Bryan" wrote in message
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Man puts down $2000 for a slip with water and electricity.
Owner sold the property and new owner flipped the property.
Current owner doesn't honor access to water and electricity.

Boat owner keeps boat for 7 weeks at slip without water and electrical
(details unclear).
Boat owner wants $2000 refunded.

Judge says?


Let me see the contract.



Bryan January 13th 06 12:17 AM

People's Court: Small Claims Slip Fees
 

" JimH" jimh_osudadATyahooDOT com wrote in message
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"Bryan" wrote in message
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Man puts down $2000 for a slip with water and electricity.
Owner sold the property and new owner flipped the property.
Current owner doesn't honor access to water and electricity.

Boat owner keeps boat for 7 weeks at slip without water and electrical
(details unclear).
Boat owner wants $2000 refunded.

Judge says?


Let me see the contract.


Verbal.



JimH January 13th 06 12:35 AM

People's Court: Small Claims Slip Fees
 

"Bryan" wrote in message
m...

" JimH" jimh_osudadATyahooDOT com wrote in message
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"Bryan" wrote in message
m...
Man puts down $2000 for a slip with water and electricity.
Owner sold the property and new owner flipped the property.
Current owner doesn't honor access to water and electricity.

Boat owner keeps boat for 7 weeks at slip without water and electrical
(details unclear).
Boat owner wants $2000 refunded.

Judge says?


Let me see the contract.


Verbal.


No contract. Boat owner loses.

Lesson: Get everything in writing.



Bryan January 13th 06 12:48 AM

People's Court: Small Claims Slip Fees
 

" JimH" jimh_osudadATyahooDOT com wrote in message
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"Bryan" wrote in message
m...

" JimH" jimh_osudadATyahooDOT com wrote in message
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"Bryan" wrote in message
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Man puts down $2000 for a slip with water and electricity.
Owner sold the property and new owner flipped the property.
Current owner doesn't honor access to water and electricity.

Boat owner keeps boat for 7 weeks at slip without water and electrical
(details unclear).
Boat owner wants $2000 refunded.

Judge says?


Let me see the contract.


Verbal.


No contract. Boat owner loses.

Lesson: Get everything in writing.


Judge ruled: $466.67 owed by boat owner. Original slip owner to refund
difference.
49 days of slip use ($2000/210 days x 49 days).

I can't believe I'm so bored that I'm watching People's Court (when did
Judge Wopner stop doing the show?).



JimH January 13th 06 12:50 AM

People's Court: Small Claims Slip Fees
 

"Bryan" wrote in message
m...

" JimH" jimh_osudadATyahooDOT com wrote in message
...

"Bryan" wrote in message
m...

" JimH" jimh_osudadATyahooDOT com wrote in message
...

"Bryan" wrote in message
m...
Man puts down $2000 for a slip with water and electricity.
Owner sold the property and new owner flipped the property.
Current owner doesn't honor access to water and electricity.

Boat owner keeps boat for 7 weeks at slip without water and electrical
(details unclear).
Boat owner wants $2000 refunded.

Judge says?


Let me see the contract.


Verbal.


No contract. Boat owner loses.

Lesson: Get everything in writing.


Judge ruled: $466.67 owed by boat owner. Original slip owner to refund
difference.
49 days of slip use ($2000/210 days x 49 days).

I can't believe I'm so bored that I'm watching People's Court (when did
Judge Wopner stop doing the show?).



Tell Judge Wopner he was wrong.



Bryan January 13th 06 12:56 AM

People's Court: Small Claims Slip Fees
 

" JimH" jimh_osudadATyahooDOT com wrote in message
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"Bryan" wrote in message
m...

" JimH" jimh_osudadATyahooDOT com wrote in message
...

"Bryan" wrote in message
m...

" JimH" jimh_osudadATyahooDOT com wrote in message
...

"Bryan" wrote in message
m...
Man puts down $2000 for a slip with water and electricity.
Owner sold the property and new owner flipped the property.
Current owner doesn't honor access to water and electricity.

Boat owner keeps boat for 7 weeks at slip without water and
electrical (details unclear).
Boat owner wants $2000 refunded.

Judge says?


Let me see the contract.


Verbal.


No contract. Boat owner loses.

Lesson: Get everything in writing.


Judge ruled: $466.67 owed by boat owner. Original slip owner to refund
difference.
49 days of slip use ($2000/210 days x 49 days).

I can't believe I'm so bored that I'm watching People's Court (when did
Judge Wopner stop doing the show?).



Tell Judge Wopner he was wrong.


Wopner is gone. It's a lady judge now.



JimH January 13th 06 01:05 AM

People's Court: Small Claims Slip Fees
 

"Bryan" wrote in message
m...

" JimH" jimh_osudadATyahooDOT com wrote in message
...

"Bryan" wrote in message
m...

" JimH" jimh_osudadATyahooDOT com wrote in message
...

"Bryan" wrote in message
m...

" JimH" jimh_osudadATyahooDOT com wrote in message
...

"Bryan" wrote in message
m...
Man puts down $2000 for a slip with water and electricity.
Owner sold the property and new owner flipped the property.
Current owner doesn't honor access to water and electricity.

Boat owner keeps boat for 7 weeks at slip without water and
electrical (details unclear).
Boat owner wants $2000 refunded.

Judge says?


Let me see the contract.


Verbal.


No contract. Boat owner loses.

Lesson: Get everything in writing.


Judge ruled: $466.67 owed by boat owner. Original slip owner to refund
difference.
49 days of slip use ($2000/210 days x 49 days).

I can't believe I'm so bored that I'm watching People's Court (when did
Judge Wopner stop doing the show?).



Tell Judge Wopner he was wrong.


Wopner is gone. It's a lady judge now.


What I have learned is to get everything in writing. Sadly handshakes and
verbal agreements don't cut it anymore.

Business's have to be even more careful, with hold harmless agreements and
being asked to be named additional insured inserted in the contracts in many
cases.

It is a litigious society we now live in and you have to protect your own
interests.



Reggie Smithers January 13th 06 01:07 AM

People's Court: Small Claims Slip Fees
 
JimH wrote:
"Bryan" wrote in message
m...
" JimH" jimh_osudadATyahooDOT com wrote in message
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"Bryan" wrote in message
m...
" JimH" jimh_osudadATyahooDOT com wrote in message
...
"Bryan" wrote in message
m...
" JimH" jimh_osudadATyahooDOT com wrote in message
...
"Bryan" wrote in message
m...
Man puts down $2000 for a slip with water and electricity.
Owner sold the property and new owner flipped the property.
Current owner doesn't honor access to water and electricity.

Boat owner keeps boat for 7 weeks at slip without water and
electrical (details unclear).
Boat owner wants $2000 refunded.

Judge says?

Let me see the contract.

Verbal.

No contract. Boat owner loses.

Lesson: Get everything in writing.

Judge ruled: $466.67 owed by boat owner. Original slip owner to refund
difference.
49 days of slip use ($2000/210 days x 49 days).

I can't believe I'm so bored that I'm watching People's Court (when did
Judge Wopner stop doing the show?).


Tell Judge Wopner he was wrong.

Wopner is gone. It's a lady judge now.


What I have learned is to get everything in writing. Sadly handshakes and
verbal agreements don't cut it anymore.

Business's have to be even more careful, with hold harmless agreements and
being asked to be named additional insured inserted in the contracts in many
cases.

It is a litigious society we now live in and you have to protect your own
interests.


Verbal contracts are binding contracts. The problem is trying to agree
what the verbal contract was.

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JimH January 13th 06 01:09 AM

People's Court: Small Claims Slip Fees
 

"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:
"Bryan" wrote in message
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" JimH" jimh_osudadATyahooDOT com wrote in message
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"Bryan" wrote in message
m...
" JimH" jimh_osudadATyahooDOT com wrote in message
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"Bryan" wrote in message
m...
" JimH" jimh_osudadATyahooDOT com wrote in message
...
"Bryan" wrote in message
m...
Man puts down $2000 for a slip with water and electricity.
Owner sold the property and new owner flipped the property.
Current owner doesn't honor access to water and electricity.

Boat owner keeps boat for 7 weeks at slip without water and
electrical (details unclear).
Boat owner wants $2000 refunded.

Judge says?

Let me see the contract.

Verbal.

No contract. Boat owner loses.

Lesson: Get everything in writing.

Judge ruled: $466.67 owed by boat owner. Original slip owner to
refund difference.
49 days of slip use ($2000/210 days x 49 days).

I can't believe I'm so bored that I'm watching People's Court (when
did Judge Wopner stop doing the show?).


Tell Judge Wopner he was wrong.

Wopner is gone. It's a lady judge now.


What I have learned is to get everything in writing. Sadly handshakes
and verbal agreements don't cut it anymore.

Business's have to be even more careful, with hold harmless agreements
and being asked to be named additional insured inserted in the contracts
in many cases.

It is a litigious society we now live in and you have to protect your own
interests.

Verbal contracts are binding contracts. The problem is trying to agree
what the verbal contract was.

--


And trying to prove it one way or another.

Only a fool would rely on a verbal agreement in today's litigious society.



Jack Redington January 13th 06 01:17 AM

People's Court: Small Claims Slip Fees
 
Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:

On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 00:17:56 GMT, "Bryan"
wrote:


" JimH" jimh_osudadATyahooDOT com wrote in message
...

"Bryan" wrote in message
.com...

Man puts down $2000 for a slip with water and electricity.
Owner sold the property and new owner flipped the property.
Current owner doesn't honor access to water and electricity.

Boat owner keeps boat for 7 weeks at slip without water and electrical
(details unclear).
Boat owner wants $2000 refunded.

Judge says?

Let me see the contract.


Verbal.



ill allow witnesses.

Now playing arm chair lawyer in cyber space :-)

Verbal contracts are still valid contracts. So unless the existence or
terms are in dispute. That would not be a issue.

If the new owner had no knowledge of the preexisting agreement I would
think the "Boat Owner" is suing the wrong person and has no business
relationship with the new owner.

If the new owner did know that this was a preexisting contract and still
accepted the sale he would have to honor it.

Ok I am sure I am wrong, but decided to give it a shot.

Capt Jack R.. - Cyber Esq:


JimH January 13th 06 01:19 AM

People's Court: Small Claims Slip Fees
 

"Jack Redington" wrote in message
ink.net...
Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:

On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 00:17:56 GMT, "Bryan"
wrote:


" JimH" jimh_osudadATyahooDOT com wrote in message
...

"Bryan" wrote in message
y.com...

Man puts down $2000 for a slip with water and electricity.
Owner sold the property and new owner flipped the property.
Current owner doesn't honor access to water and electricity.

Boat owner keeps boat for 7 weeks at slip without water and electrical
(details unclear).
Boat owner wants $2000 refunded.

Judge says?

Let me see the contract.

Verbal.



ill allow witnesses.

Now playing arm chair lawyer in cyber space :-)

Verbal contracts are still valid contracts. So unless the existence or
terms are in dispute. That would not be a issue.

If the new owner had no knowledge of the preexisting agreement I would
think the "Boat Owner" is suing the wrong person and has no business
relationship with the new owner.

If the new owner did know that this was a preexisting contract and still
accepted the sale he would have to honor it.

Ok I am sure I am wrong, but decided to give it a shot.

Capt Jack R.. - Cyber Esq:



I recently started playing a lawyer on TV so I must know what I am talking
about. ;-)



Don White January 13th 06 01:42 AM

People's Court: Small Claims Slip Fees
 
Bryan wrote:
" JimH" jimh_osudadATyahooDOT com wrote in message
...

"Bryan" wrote in message
. com...

Man puts down $2000 for a slip with water and electricity.
Owner sold the property and new owner flipped the property.
Current owner doesn't honor access to water and electricity.

Boat owner keeps boat for 7 weeks at slip without water and electrical
(details unclear).
Boat owner wants $2000 refunded.

Judge says?


Let me see the contract.



Verbal.



like they say...
'a verbal contract isn't worth the paper it's written on'


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