Based on the reported performance results of the last system you put
together I would appreciate your comments and opinions on this system I plan
to put together with my son:

MSI K8N Neo4/SLI motherboard (w/built in SoundBlaster Live chip)
Althion 64 3000+ CPU, Socket 939 version
2 GB DDR400 Corair Ram
256MB Nvidia GeForce 7800 GTX video card
Antec Performance TX640B Series Case
Plextor PX-716A dual layer DVD 16X
Maxtor 300GB DiamondMax hard drive
Viewsonic 17" Thinedge VP171B LCD flat panel monitor
Windows XP Professional OEM

He already has a decent keyboard, speakers and optical mouse. I will also
add a DVD player so he can record copies of the DVD's he owns.

I can do this for around $2,000.

Any suggestions or comments?

PS (I know this was previously posted but I never received any feedback
from you).

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
Based on the reported performance results of the last system you put
together I would appreciate your comments and opinions on this system I
plan to put together with my son:

MSI K8N Neo4/SLI motherboard (w/built in SoundBlaster Live chip)
Althion 64 3000+ CPU, Socket 939 version
2 GB DDR400 Corair Ram
256MB Nvidia GeForce 7800 GTX video card
Antec Performance TX640B Series Case
Plextor PX-716A dual layer DVD 16X
Maxtor 300GB DiamondMax hard drive
Viewsonic 17" Thinedge VP171B LCD flat panel monitor
Windows XP Professional OEM

He already has a decent keyboard, speakers and optical mouse. I will
also
add a DVD player so he can record copies of the DVD's he owns.

I can do this for around $2,000.

Any suggestions or comments?

PS (I know this was previously posted but I never received any feedback
from you).

Jim, I don't really know much about the Athlon chips, other than everyone
says some of them are really fast and capable. If your kid is going to do
a lot of CAD work, I would contact the CAD publisher and ask if a dual
processor CPU would be helpful, or, in fact *which* processor(s) work best
with the software. Same with the video card. Some pieces work better than
others for CAD.

The Plextor is the same one I have. It's fine. I would go for a 10,000 RPM
"C" drive of 75 gigs for the OS and programs, and use that 300 gig drive
for storage. That's pretty much what I did.

I think your monitor choice is too small for CAD work. In fact, I would go
for a 20 or 21" glass tube monitor. They're not that expensive any more.


Thanks for the advice! I appreciate it.

BTW: I never gave a larger 21" CRT monitor vs. the smaller 17" LCD. I
would guess the cost might even be less.

On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 17:20:54 -0500, " JimH" jimh_osudadATyahooDOT
com wrote:

[snip]

Asking for computer feedback from Harry?

No flame, but Harry has admitted being behind somewhat computer
illiterate in recent years. I read he just recently got his first
digital camera, about a year ago.

Just curious.
__

"It's just about going fast...that's all..."

http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/

Netsock wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 17:20:54 -0500, " JimH" jimh_osudadATyahooDOT
com wrote:

[snip]

Asking for computer feedback from Harry?

No flame, but Harry has admitted being behind somewhat computer
illiterate in recent years. I read he just recently got his first
digital camera, about a year ago.

Just curious.
__

"It's just about going fast...that's all..."

http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/
Netsock,
Harry recommendation to follow up with someone in the CAD design
business was a perfect recommendation.

--
Reggie
************************************************** *********************
If you would like to make rec.boats an enjoyable place to discuss
boating, please do not respond to the political and inflammatory
off- topic posts and flames.
************************************************** *********************

"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
...
Netsock wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 17:20:54 -0500, " JimH" jimh_osudadATyahooDOT
com wrote:

[snip]

Asking for computer feedback from Harry?

No flame, but Harry has admitted being behind somewhat computer
illiterate in recent years. I read he just recently got his first
digital camera, about a year ago.

Just curious.
__

"It's just about going fast...that's all..."

http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/
Netsock,
Harry recommendation to follow up with someone in the CAD design business
was a perfect recommendation.

Harry is making positive strides to be a better human being. He is finally
admitting that he doesn't know everything about everything!

Bert Robbins wrote:
"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
...
Netsock wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 17:20:54 -0500, " JimH" jimh_osudadATyahooDOT
com wrote:

[snip]

Asking for computer feedback from Harry?

No flame, but Harry has admitted being behind somewhat computer
illiterate in recent years. I read he just recently got his first
digital camera, about a year ago.

Just curious.
__

"It's just about going fast...that's all..."

http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/
Netsock,
Harry recommendation to follow up with someone in the CAD design business
was a perfect recommendation.

Harry is making positive strides to be a better human being. He is finally
admitting that he doesn't know everything about everything!


Bert,
It is amazing how all of us have made great strides towards making the a
better NG. If we keep this up it might actually become 2nd nature to be
polite to each other. ; )


--
Reggie
************************************************** *********************
If you would like to make rec.boats an enjoyable place to discuss
boating, please do not respond to the political and inflammatory
off- topic posts and flames.
************************************************** *********************

" JimH" jimh_osudadATyahooDOT com wrote in message
...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
Based on the reported performance results of the last system you put
together I would appreciate your comments and opinions on this system I
plan to put together with my son:

MSI K8N Neo4/SLI motherboard (w/built in SoundBlaster Live chip)
Althion 64 3000+ CPU, Socket 939 version
2 GB DDR400 Corair Ram
256MB Nvidia GeForce 7800 GTX video card
Antec Performance TX640B Series Case
Plextor PX-716A dual layer DVD 16X
Maxtor 300GB DiamondMax hard drive
Viewsonic 17" Thinedge VP171B LCD flat panel monitor
Windows XP Professional OEM

He already has a decent keyboard, speakers and optical mouse. I will
also
add a DVD player so he can record copies of the DVD's he owns.

I can do this for around $2,000.

Any suggestions or comments?

PS (I know this was previously posted but I never received any feedback
from you).

Jim, I don't really know much about the Athlon chips, other than everyone
says some of them are really fast and capable. If your kid is going to do
a lot of CAD work, I would contact the CAD publisher and ask if a dual
processor CPU would be helpful, or, in fact *which* processor(s) work
best with the software. Same with the video card. Some pieces work
better than others for CAD.

The Plextor is the same one I have. It's fine. I would go for a 10,000
RPM "C" drive of 75 gigs for the OS and programs, and use that 300 gig
drive for storage. That's pretty much what I did.

I think your monitor choice is too small for CAD work. In fact, I would
go for a 20 or 21" glass tube monitor. They're not that expensive any
more.


Thanks for the advice! I appreciate it.

BTW: I never gave a larger 21" CRT monitor vs. the smaller 17" LCD. I
would guess the cost might even be less.

Don't bother with a 21" CRT. I will soon replace mine.....they are big
bulky and hard on the eyes compared to the LCD screens. The 19-21" LCD
screens are now down in the 8-900 range.

Harry Krause wrote:
JimH wrote:
Based on the reported performance results of the last system you put
together I would appreciate your comments and opinions on this system I plan
to put together with my son:

MSI K8N Neo4/SLI motherboard (w/built in SoundBlaster Live chip)
Althion 64 3000+ CPU, Socket 939 version
2 GB DDR400 Corair Ram
256MB Nvidia GeForce 7800 GTX video card
Antec Performance TX640B Series Case
Plextor PX-716A dual layer DVD 16X
Maxtor 300GB DiamondMax hard drive
Viewsonic 17" Thinedge VP171B LCD flat panel monitor
Windows XP Professional OEM

He already has a decent keyboard, speakers and optical mouse. I will also
add a DVD player so he can record copies of the DVD's he owns.

I can do this for around $2,000.

Any suggestions or comments?

PS (I know this was previously posted but I never received any feedback
from you).



Jim, I don't really know much about the Athlon chips, other than
everyone says some of them are really fast and capable. If your kid is
going to do a lot of CAD work, I would contact the CAD publisher and ask
if a dual processor CPU would be helpful, or, in fact *which*
processor(s) work best with the software. Same with the video card.
Some pieces work better than others for CAD.

Dual processors are helpful, as are fast video cards, IF you are doing
3d modeling, CAD-CAM interfacing, etc. For most 2d and 3d drafting, a
decently quick machine will do nicely.

The Plextor is the same one I have. It's fine. I would go for a 10,000
RPM "C" drive of 75 gigs for the OS and programs, and use that 300 gig
drive for storage. That's pretty much what I did.

I think your monitor choice is too small for CAD work. In fact, I would
go for a 20 or 21" glass tube monitor. They're not that expensive any more.

17" works fine. You're almost always zoomed into a specific small area.

wrote in message
ups.com...

Harry Krause wrote:
JimH wrote:
Based on the reported performance results of the last system you put
together I would appreciate your comments and opinions on this system I
plan
to put together with my son:

MSI K8N Neo4/SLI motherboard (w/built in SoundBlaster Live chip)
Althion 64 3000+ CPU, Socket 939 version
2 GB DDR400 Corair Ram
256MB Nvidia GeForce 7800 GTX video card
Antec Performance TX640B Series Case
Plextor PX-716A dual layer DVD 16X
Maxtor 300GB DiamondMax hard drive
Viewsonic 17" Thinedge VP171B LCD flat panel monitor
Windows XP Professional OEM

He already has a decent keyboard, speakers and optical mouse. I will
also
add a DVD player so he can record copies of the DVD's he owns.

I can do this for around $2,000.

Any suggestions or comments?

PS (I know this was previously posted but I never received any
feedback
from you).



Jim, I don't really know much about the Athlon chips, other than
everyone says some of them are really fast and capable. If your kid is
going to do a lot of CAD work, I would contact the CAD publisher and ask
if a dual processor CPU would be helpful, or, in fact *which*
processor(s) work best with the software. Same with the video card.
Some pieces work better than others for CAD.

Dual processors are helpful, as are fast video cards, IF you are doing
3d modeling, CAD-CAM interfacing, etc. For most 2d and 3d drafting, a
decently quick machine will do nicely.

The Plextor is the same one I have. It's fine. I would go for a 10,000
RPM "C" drive of 75 gigs for the OS and programs, and use that 300 gig
drive for storage. That's pretty much what I did.

I think your monitor choice is too small for CAD work. In fact, I would
go for a 20 or 21" glass tube monitor. They're not that expensive any
more.

17" works fine. You're almost always zoomed into a specific small area.


Would you recommend LCD or CRT?

" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
...

wrote in message
ups.com...

Harry Krause wrote:
JimH wrote:
Based on the reported performance results of the last system you put
together I would appreciate your comments and opinions on this system
I plan
to put together with my son:

MSI K8N Neo4/SLI motherboard (w/built in SoundBlaster Live chip)
Althion 64 3000+ CPU, Socket 939 version
2 GB DDR400 Corair Ram
256MB Nvidia GeForce 7800 GTX video card
Antec Performance TX640B Series Case
Plextor PX-716A dual layer DVD 16X
Maxtor 300GB DiamondMax hard drive
Viewsonic 17" Thinedge VP171B LCD flat panel monitor
Windows XP Professional OEM

He already has a decent keyboard, speakers and optical mouse. I will
also
add a DVD player so he can record copies of the DVD's he owns.

I can do this for around $2,000.

Any suggestions or comments?

PS (I know this was previously posted but I never received any
feedback
from you).



Jim, I don't really know much about the Athlon chips, other than
everyone says some of them are really fast and capable. If your kid is
going to do a lot of CAD work, I would contact the CAD publisher and ask
if a dual processor CPU would be helpful, or, in fact *which*
processor(s) work best with the software. Same with the video card.
Some pieces work better than others for CAD.

Dual processors are helpful, as are fast video cards, IF you are doing
3d modeling, CAD-CAM interfacing, etc. For most 2d and 3d drafting, a
decently quick machine will do nicely.

The Plextor is the same one I have. It's fine. I would go for a 10,000
RPM "C" drive of 75 gigs for the OS and programs, and use that 300 gig
drive for storage. That's pretty much what I did.

I think your monitor choice is too small for CAD work. In fact, I would
go for a 20 or 21" glass tube monitor. They're not that expensive any
more.

17" works fine. You're almost always zoomed into a specific small area.


Would you recommend LCD or CRT?

Definitely the LCD. The CRT flicker is hard on the eyes. and they bigger
screens (mine is a 21") take up a lot of desk space and are a pain in the
ass to move. By the biggest LCD you can afford ;-)