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FREDO January 3rd 06 08:34 PM

OT going to Fry's Electronics
 
We are going to Fry's Electronics!
My wife lets me go when I've been very good!
Man I love that store!
It is so huge!
It even has a coffee and sandwich grille inside.
The selection of puters and other neat stuff is so vast!!!

Fredo



[email protected] January 3rd 06 10:59 PM

OT going to Fry's Electronics
 

FREDO wrote:
We are going to Fry's Electronics!
My wife lets me go when I've been very good!
Man I love that store!
It is so huge!
It even has a coffee and sandwich grille inside.
The selection of puters and other neat stuff is so vast!!!

Fredo


Good Luck, :-)

IMO, Fry's has taken the big box theme just a bit too far. There is way
too much of way too much stuff in there. The choices are overwhelming.
We've got one in South Seattle, and I think some of the folks who went
there for the Grand Opening a couple of years ago are still missing.
Once in a while, when shopping there, I see that the search and rescue
helicopter still passes by trying to find them. I wish they'd fly just
a bit closer to the ceiling, the rotor wash ruffles what's left of my
hair.

Then there's the confusing issue of the store's hours: The sign on the
door makes no particular reference whether the 9PM closing time applies
to all three time zones spanned by the building.

The aggravating aspect of shopping at Fry's is that consumers have a
natural tendency to equate huge selection and warehouse merchandising
with low, low, prices. Caveat Emptor at Fry's. They'll take out a full
page, four color ad in the Sunday paper and advertise prices that not
only aren't "deals", they are well above average for the same or
similar merchandise sold elsewhere. But oh well, somebody has to pay
the salaries for all the public employees in the several small towns
contained entirely withing the average Fry's Electronics store.


Bill McKee January 3rd 06 11:40 PM

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wrote in message
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FREDO wrote:
We are going to Fry's Electronics!
My wife lets me go when I've been very good!
Man I love that store!
It is so huge!
It even has a coffee and sandwich grille inside.
The selection of puters and other neat stuff is so vast!!!

Fredo


Good Luck, :-)

IMO, Fry's has taken the big box theme just a bit too far. There is way
too much of way too much stuff in there. The choices are overwhelming.
We've got one in South Seattle, and I think some of the folks who went
there for the Grand Opening a couple of years ago are still missing.
Once in a while, when shopping there, I see that the search and rescue
helicopter still passes by trying to find them. I wish they'd fly just
a bit closer to the ceiling, the rotor wash ruffles what's left of my
hair.

Then there's the confusing issue of the store's hours: The sign on the
door makes no particular reference whether the 9PM closing time applies
to all three time zones spanned by the building.

The aggravating aspect of shopping at Fry's is that consumers have a
natural tendency to equate huge selection and warehouse merchandising
with low, low, prices. Caveat Emptor at Fry's. They'll take out a full
page, four color ad in the Sunday paper and advertise prices that not
only aren't "deals", they are well above average for the same or
similar merchandise sold elsewhere. But oh well, somebody has to pay
the salaries for all the public employees in the several small towns
contained entirely withing the average Fry's Electronics store.


The wifes friend can always tell when he stopped at Fry's on the way home.
He is still ****ed. Stupid clerks, with no knowedge of the product, 55
checkout stands with 3 open, and if you have paperwork for exchange, they
make even other copies of the paperwork.



Jim January 4th 06 01:01 AM

OT going to Fry's Electronics-Store theme
 
There are quite a few Fry's in my area. Each store has a theme.

Manhattan Beach- South Seas (Looks like Gilligan's Island) It works.

Anaheim- Space Shuttle

Fountain Valley- The fall of the Roman Empire

Woodland Hills- Alice in Wonderland (better than it sounds)

Burbank- The best of all, Space Invaders. Flying saucer crashed through
front wall, military guy posed with rifle. . . shooting aliens while
being shot with a ray gun. Snack area is a drive in with old cars made
into seating areas. 55 Buick, Kaiser (?) Always showing an old horror
flick on the screen above the snack bar. Very cool.

You'd have to see it. It's worth the trip no matter how far it is.

What themes do the rest of the stores have?

Jim

Bill McKee wrote:
wrote in message
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FREDO wrote:

We are going to Fry's Electronics!
My wife lets me go when I've been very good!
Man I love that store!
It is so huge!
It even has a coffee and sandwich grille inside.
The selection of puters and other neat stuff is so vast!!!

Fredo


Good Luck, :-)

IMO, Fry's has taken the big box theme just a bit too far. There is way
too much of way too much stuff in there. The choices are overwhelming.
We've got one in South Seattle, and I think some of the folks who went
there for the Grand Opening a couple of years ago are still missing.
Once in a while, when shopping there, I see that the search and rescue
helicopter still passes by trying to find them. I wish they'd fly just
a bit closer to the ceiling, the rotor wash ruffles what's left of my
hair.

Then there's the confusing issue of the store's hours: The sign on the
door makes no particular reference whether the 9PM closing time applies
to all three time zones spanned by the building.

The aggravating aspect of shopping at Fry's is that consumers have a
natural tendency to equate huge selection and warehouse merchandising
with low, low, prices. Caveat Emptor at Fry's. They'll take out a full
page, four color ad in the Sunday paper and advertise prices that not
only aren't "deals", they are well above average for the same or
similar merchandise sold elsewhere. But oh well, somebody has to pay
the salaries for all the public employees in the several small towns
contained entirely withing the average Fry's Electronics store.



The wifes friend can always tell when he stopped at Fry's on the way home.
He is still ****ed. Stupid clerks, with no knowedge of the product, 55
checkout stands with 3 open, and if you have paperwork for exchange, they
make even other copies of the paperwork.




FREDO January 4th 06 04:18 AM

OT going to Fry's Electronics-Store theme
 
Indianapolis is race cars of course!
"Jim" wrote in message
ink.net...
There are quite a few Fry's in my area. Each store has a theme.

Manhattan Beach- South Seas (Looks like Gilligan's Island) It works.

Anaheim- Space Shuttle

Fountain Valley- The fall of the Roman Empire

Woodland Hills- Alice in Wonderland (better than it sounds)

Burbank- The best of all, Space Invaders. Flying saucer crashed through
front wall, military guy posed with rifle. . . shooting aliens while being
shot with a ray gun. Snack area is a drive in with old cars made into
seating areas. 55 Buick, Kaiser (?) Always showing an old horror flick on
the screen above the snack bar. Very cool.

You'd have to see it. It's worth the trip no matter how far it is.

What themes do the rest of the stores have?

Jim

Bill McKee wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

FREDO wrote:

We are going to Fry's Electronics!
My wife lets me go when I've been very good!
Man I love that store!
It is so huge!
It even has a coffee and sandwich grille inside.
The selection of puters and other neat stuff is so vast!!!

Fredo

Good Luck, :-)

IMO, Fry's has taken the big box theme just a bit too far. There is way
too much of way too much stuff in there. The choices are overwhelming.
We've got one in South Seattle, and I think some of the folks who went
there for the Grand Opening a couple of years ago are still missing.
Once in a while, when shopping there, I see that the search and rescue
helicopter still passes by trying to find them. I wish they'd fly just
a bit closer to the ceiling, the rotor wash ruffles what's left of my
hair.

Then there's the confusing issue of the store's hours: The sign on the
door makes no particular reference whether the 9PM closing time applies
to all three time zones spanned by the building.

The aggravating aspect of shopping at Fry's is that consumers have a
natural tendency to equate huge selection and warehouse merchandising
with low, low, prices. Caveat Emptor at Fry's. They'll take out a full
page, four color ad in the Sunday paper and advertise prices that not
only aren't "deals", they are well above average for the same or
similar merchandise sold elsewhere. But oh well, somebody has to pay
the salaries for all the public employees in the several small towns
contained entirely withing the average Fry's Electronics store.



The wifes friend can always tell when he stopped at Fry's on the way
home. He is still ****ed. Stupid clerks, with no knowedge of the
product, 55 checkout stands with 3 open, and if you have paperwork for
exchange, they make even other copies of the paperwork.





Reggie Smithers January 4th 06 12:56 PM

OT going to Fry's Electronics
 
Chuck,
I was watching a show about Wal-Mart last night. One of the things they
talked about was a "LOW COST ITEM". The low cost item would be the best
price anywhere, a $29 microwave etc. Once you stepped up in quality, the
price was probably not the best price in the marketplace. I would guess
many of the box stores use this marketing strategy.

That is one of the great benefits of the internet, you can check out the
item and prices on all major purchases.
wrote in message
oups.com...

FREDO wrote:
We are going to Fry's Electronics!
My wife lets me go when I've been very good!
Man I love that store!
It is so huge!
It even has a coffee and sandwich grille inside.
The selection of puters and other neat stuff is so vast!!!

Fredo


Good Luck, :-)

IMO, Fry's has taken the big box theme just a bit too far. There is way
too much of way too much stuff in there. The choices are overwhelming.
We've got one in South Seattle, and I think some of the folks who went
there for the Grand Opening a couple of years ago are still missing.
Once in a while, when shopping there, I see that the search and rescue
helicopter still passes by trying to find them. I wish they'd fly just
a bit closer to the ceiling, the rotor wash ruffles what's left of my
hair.

Then there's the confusing issue of the store's hours: The sign on the
door makes no particular reference whether the 9PM closing time applies
to all three time zones spanned by the building.

The aggravating aspect of shopping at Fry's is that consumers have a
natural tendency to equate huge selection and warehouse merchandising
with low, low, prices. Caveat Emptor at Fry's. They'll take out a full
page, four color ad in the Sunday paper and advertise prices that not
only aren't "deals", they are well above average for the same or
similar merchandise sold elsewhere. But oh well, somebody has to pay
the salaries for all the public employees in the several small towns
contained entirely withing the average Fry's Electronics store.




Eisboch January 4th 06 01:19 PM

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"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
. ..

Chuck,
I was watching a show about Wal-Mart last night. One of the things they
talked about was a "LOW COST ITEM". The low cost item would be the best
price anywhere, a $29 microwave etc. Once you stepped up in quality, the
price was probably not the best price in the marketplace. I would guess
many of the box stores use this marketing strategy.



Sears used to be famous for this years ago. Super advertised deal on
something but when you showed up to buy it, "it" was out of stock. Then the
pressure was on to buy the better, higher priced item instead.

Way before WalMart was even thought of.

Eisboch



Reggie Smithers January 4th 06 01:27 PM

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Eisboch,

The difference is Sears was using "Bait and Switch" and only had a few of
the advertised items in the store. When most people came in, they had just
sold out of the item.

Wal-Mart will have lots of the "Low Cost Item" available to buy, they don't
use salesmen to sell the better quality item, they just know many people
will decide the they want the better quality item on their own. The "Low
Cost Item is often not even advertised, it is just "End-Capped" or displayed
in the middle of the Aisle.




"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
. ..

Chuck,
I was watching a show about Wal-Mart last night. One of the things they
talked about was a "LOW COST ITEM". The low cost item would be the best
price anywhere, a $29 microwave etc. Once you stepped up in quality, the
price was probably not the best price in the marketplace. I would guess
many of the box stores use this marketing strategy.



Sears used to be famous for this years ago. Super advertised deal on
something but when you showed up to buy it, "it" was out of stock. Then
the pressure was on to buy the better, higher priced item instead.

Way before WalMart was even thought of.

Eisboch




Bert Robbins January 4th 06 01:45 PM

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:

Sears used to be famous for this years ago. Super advertised deal on
something but when you showed up to buy it, "it" was out of stock. Then
the pressure was on to buy the better, higher priced item instead.

Way before WalMart was even thought of.

Eisboch



Not being a Wal-Mart shopper, I don't have this first-hand, but I have
read reports over the years that a number of the "name brand" products
sold in Wal-Mart are made specifically for the store, and built to sell at
a lower price point than similar name-brand products found in other
stores. I suspect this would be true mainly of manufactured items. In
other words, the "Samsung" 19" monitor you find at Wal-Mart is not the
same product as the "Samsung" 19" monitor you find at a reputable computer
store, even though the model numbers look very similar.

The few times I have gone to Sears for something and it was out of stock,
I was given a rain check without any hassle, and the department manager
called to let me know when the item arrived.

Some months ago, I decided to buy a refrigerator for my "rec room," and
went to Sears for a particular model "GE." It was there on the floor,
right next to a superior Kenmore that was selling for $100 less with a
better warranty. I bought the Kenmore.


But, that Kenmore was probably made by GE.



Eisboch January 4th 06 02:01 PM

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:

Sears used to be famous for this years ago. Super advertised deal on
something but when you showed up to buy it, "it" was out of stock. Then
the pressure was on to buy the better, higher priced item instead.

Way before WalMart was even thought of.

Eisboch



Not being a Wal-Mart shopper, I don't have this first-hand, but I have
read reports over the years that a number of the "name brand" products
sold in Wal-Mart are made specifically for the store, and built to sell at
a lower price point than similar name-brand products found in other
stores. I suspect this would be true mainly of manufactured items. In
other words, the "Samsung" 19" monitor you find at Wal-Mart is not the
same product as the "Samsung" 19" monitor you find at a reputable computer
store, even though the model numbers look very similar.


Maybe. Radio Shack used to do that; specifiying design and manufacture
criteria to a major manufacturer, then selling them as an "Archer" or "Radio
Shack" model. I am told that most were made with cheaper components, (i.e.
10% tolerance resistors instead of 5%, etc.), that seems to be borne out by
the inferior performance and lifespan of the products.

Sears used to - and still does- the same thing I guess, selling a washer or
whatever as a "Kenmore" that was actually made by Maytag or GE. Seems like
Kenmore appliances are a lot better quality than the Radio Shack clones
though. It's only been in the past 10 years or so that both Sears and Radio
Shack have been offering name brand products in addition to their own.

Other retailers do similar things. I was in the market for a set of JBL
speakers a couple of years ago and a friend told me they sold them at Best
Buy in West Palm. I didn't believe it, so off I went, only to discover that
the JBLs at Best Buy, although genuine JBLs, were all low end plastic crap,
not the Studio Monitors I was looking for.

Eisboch



DSK January 4th 06 02:35 PM

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Eisboch wrote:
Maybe. Radio Shack used to do that; specifiying design and manufacture
criteria to a major manufacturer, then selling them as an "Archer" or "Radio
Shack" model. I am told that most were made with cheaper components, (i.e.
10% tolerance resistors instead of 5%, etc.), that seems to be borne out by
the inferior performance and lifespan of the products.


Hard to believe that a slight difference in ingredients
affected the profit margin that much when so much of the
cost of goods sold is labor & overhead.

OTOH a *lot* of people in this world are penny wise & pound
foolish (more below).

Sears used to - and still does- the same thing I guess, selling a washer or
whatever as a "Kenmore" that was actually made by Maytag or GE. Seems like
Kenmore appliances are a lot better quality than the Radio Shack clones
though. It's only been in the past 10 years or so that both Sears and Radio
Shack have been offering name brand products in addition to their own.


The only problem I've ver had with Sears is some bonehead
tool managers refusing to replace Craftsman tools. In one
case, another department manager straightened him out, in a
nother case I just shrugged and left the tool laying on the
counter and told my credit card company that I had returned
it & the store was being jerks about a refund... they gave
me credit back for it (and I assume shorted Sears for it).


Other retailers do similar things. I was in the market for a set of JBL
speakers a couple of years ago and a friend told me they sold them at Best
Buy in West Palm. I didn't believe it, so off I went, only to discover that
the JBLs at Best Buy, although genuine JBLs, were all low end plastic crap,
not the Studio Monitors I was looking for.


I've noticed this too, but then most shoppers will buy a
cheaper item even if it's obviously shoddy. In fact there
have been a lot of studies on this. The two conflicting
irrational market behaviors, both very common, are buying
cheap crap and complaining that it doesn't work (often
followed by buying another of the same); and buying
expensive "show-off" goods as a display of pretended wealth
(such goods are often shoddy, too, but the buyer doesn't
know any better and has been persuaded by expensive
advertising campaigns).

DSK


jps January 4th 06 06:32 PM

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In article ,
says...
Chuck,
I was watching a show about Wal-Mart last night. One of the things they
talked about was a "LOW COST ITEM". The low cost item would be the best
price anywhere, a $29 microwave etc. Once you stepped up in quality, the
price was probably not the best price in the marketplace. I would guess
many of the box stores use this marketing strategy.


Fascinating show. Low cost items from China have buoyed Walmart's
profit and stock price for years. Now that everyone has to go to China
to purchase goods for resale in the states, the loss of jobs is starting
to affect Americans buying power.

The Chinese workers who couldn't afford goods built for America will be
in a better position to purchase those goods than the American markets
for which they were designed.

Just another step in the transition of America from 1st to 3rd world
country. In the 1970s, the US was the biggest exporter of finished
goods and biggest importer of raw materials. Now we're the largest
exporter or raw materials and biggest importer of finished goods -- all
at the cost of our manufacturing base and decent wage jobs - while the
Chinese use currency manipulation to keep the balance of value on their
side. Our trade deficit with China is enormous and growing. The Chinese
are eating us for lunch and we don't even recognize it.

Pretty soon we won't be able to afford the expensive military we
maintain (or try to) and we'll be facing the same gulch the Soviets
faced trying to keep up with Reagan's drunken spending spree.

Short-sighted stupidity of US gov't and corporations whose first
responsibility is to shareholders, not the country in which they reside.

Whoops.

jps

JimH January 4th 06 09:44 PM

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"Jim" wrote in message
ink.net...
There are quite a few Fry's in my area. Each store has a theme.

Manhattan Beach- South Seas (Looks like Gilligan's Island) It works.

Anaheim- Space Shuttle

Fountain Valley- The fall of the Roman Empire

Woodland Hills- Alice in Wonderland (better than it sounds)

Burbank- The best of all, Space Invaders. Flying saucer crashed through
front wall, military guy posed with rifle. . . shooting aliens while being
shot with a ray gun. Snack area is a drive in with old cars made into
seating areas. 55 Buick, Kaiser (?) Always showing an old horror flick on
the screen above the snack bar. Very cool.

You'd have to see it. It's worth the trip no matter how far it is.

What themes do the rest of the stores have?

Jim



From http://www.frys.com/
Each store carries its own unique theme.

In Northern California:
- Campbell's ancient Egyptian theme displays King Tut tombs.
- Concord is the newest addition to the Bay Area market.
- Fremont's 1893 World's Fair theme is a flashback to the first city
powered by electricity.
- Palo Alto steps straight out of the old wild, wild west.
- San Jose pays tribute to the first astronomers, the Mayans, with settings
from Chichenitza.
- Sunnyvale reflects the history of the Silicon Valley.

In Southern California:
- Anaheim places you on the NASA flight deck for the Endeavor Space
Shuttle, complete with launches on big screens all weekend long.
- Burbank pulls you back in time to the 1950's with a retro-space theme
from Hollywood, complete with little green Martians and Gort, the robot.
- City of Industry pays tribute to the industrial revolution with
bigger-than-life gears.
- In Oxnard the rich agricultural and commercial history of this coastal
community is featured in historical wall murals.
- Fountain Valley hails the ruins of ancient Rome, complete with a flowing
aqueduct.
- Manhattan Beach takes you to Tahiti with sculpted lava tiki heads and its
own rain forest.
- San Marcos takes you to Atlantis, with its aquariums, exotic fish, and
waterfalls.
- Woodland Hills is a page out of Lewis Carroll's Alice in Wonderland
storybook, with 10 to 15-foot high figurines of the story characters.

In Texas:
- Austin is a tribute to the city's reputation as the "Live Music Capital
of the World."
- Dallas allows you to experience the Lazy-K ranch, complete with a herd of
longhorn cattle.
- Houston lets you view the history of Texas oil, complete with oil
derricks.
- Irving pays tribute to its history, which is depicted throughout the
store on mural-size photos.
- Plano shows how the railroad impacted the development of this thriving
area.
- South Houston honors the city's rich pioneer heritage.
- Webster's murals depict the history of space exploration together with a
scale replica of the international space station.

In Arizona:
- Phoenix is a journey into an ancient Aztec temple.

In Illinois:
- Downers Grove displays historical pictures of the train station, the
Downer Family and local business sites throughout the store.

In Indiana:
- Fishers pays tribute to the origins of the pre-1960's Indy Speedway.

In Nevada:
- Las Vegas reflects the history of "The Strip."

In Washington:
- Renton reflects past historical events.

The Sacramento, San Diego, Concord, Tempe, Wilsonville and Arlington stores
are all works in progress.




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