On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 16:59:04 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


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Harry Krause wrote:
What wax do you use to keep the rims of your boat trailer wheels shiny?


C'mon Harry.

You can contribute something useful. You have the knowledge and the
communication skills.


(snipped)

Ah, let him be, Chuck. At least he has returned to the humor we enjoyed
years ago.
Personally, I could care less about name calling and such - some of it is
quite funny and entertaining, and afterall, it's only a NG. It was just the
ceaseless politics that got on my nerves. I think having a few good yuks is
consistent with the boating interest or lifestyle.

Eisboch


Disagree. I wouldn't mind the politics if it didn't lead to the vulgar name-calling
and bitterness that went with it. The problem is that politics can't be discussed
without resorting to 'attack-mode', which is why *both* should be banned.

--
John H.

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

JohnH wrote:

Disagree. I wouldn't mind the politics if it didn't lead to the vulgar name-calling
and bitterness that went with it. The problem is that politics can't be discussed
without resorting to 'attack-mode', which is why *both* should be banned.

/*$.02
I don't think any topics should be "banned" (as if you could). I prefer
voluntary self restraint and occasionally seeing things I don't like to
vacuous and boring.
*/$.02

-rick-

-rick- wrote:
/*$.02
I don't think any topics should be "banned" (as if you could). I prefer
voluntary self restraint and occasionally seeing things I don't like to
vacuous and boring.
*/$.02

-rick-

Here's a fair question for you: if the newsgroup is vacuous and boring
without the bitchy name calling and political fights, (as that is all
that is missing from before),

1) Can you assist in providing some more stimulating boating content?

or

2) If you're not interested in the boating content, would "rec.boats"
be the best NG for you?



It would have to be acknowledged as reality that people who hung out
here simply to watch the daily stink fights must be very disappointed
with the group these last couple of weeks.

wrote:
-rick- wrote:

/*$.02
I don't think any topics should be "banned" (as if you could). I prefer
voluntary self restraint and occasionally seeing things I don't like to
vacuous and boring.
*/$.02

-rick-


Here's a fair question for you: if the newsgroup is vacuous and boring
without the bitchy name calling and political fights, (as that is all
that is missing from before),

1) Can you assist in providing some more stimulating boating content?

or

2) If you're not interested in the boating content, would "rec.boats"
be the best NG for you?



It would have to be acknowledged as reality that people who hung out
here simply to watch the daily stink fights must be very disappointed
with the group these last couple of weeks.


????

Hey Chuck,

I apparently failed to make myself understood. Let's try
that again.

I did not say and don't think that the news group is vacuous
and boring without bitchy name calling and political fights.
That is a welcome change.

My point was that *if* most of us can manage self restraint
there will be no need for banned topics or any one
attempting to impose censor like control. I was drawing a
contrast between extremes and expressing my preference that
we not overshoot and become overly bland and narrow.

We likely have common goals; an enjoyable, informative and
interesting forum. I prefer that it mostly relate to boating
but have no problem with cordial tangents or even lively
debate on virtually any subject. I do appreciate the
improved tone and congratulate you for your persuasive
efforts and all posters for the results achieved.

As to your questions:

1) I try to contribute when I have something relevant to add
and also occasionally post something irrelevant as if I were
talking with friends.

2) If I were not interested in boating content I wouldn't be
here.

regards,
-rick-

On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 18:19:57 -0800, -rick- wrote:

JohnH wrote:

Disagree. I wouldn't mind the politics if it didn't lead to the vulgar name-calling
and bitterness that went with it. The problem is that politics can't be discussed
without resorting to 'attack-mode', which is why *both* should be banned.

/*$.02
I don't think any topics should be "banned" (as if you could). I prefer
voluntary self restraint and occasionally seeing things I don't like to
vacuous and boring.
*/$.02

-rick-

edit: ...*both* should be voluntarily self restrained!

--
John H.

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

"JohnH" wrote ...

edit: ...*both* should be voluntarily self restrained!

Thanks for getting my (pedantic) point.

-rick-

wrote:

Rebuilding this NG is a process, not an event. With 99% of the
political bickering and name calling swept aside we will eventually
attract a greater number of boaters to the NG and many of them will
have useful comments, challenging questions, and specific expertise
to share. Give it a chance.

Where can we find your apologies for the false claims you made about
Skipper and his wife, Chuck?

--
Skipper