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Eisboch December 30th 05 02:38 AM

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First version, otherwise why use 6 resistors instead of one single
lower ohmage one of higher power.


I was trying to roughly calculate the power requirements. You said 600
ohm resistors, correct? The voltage drop on the LED will be minimal when
forward biased or "on", so each branch must be about .02 amps, times six
equals .12 amps, so the power must be about 12v times .12 or about 1.4
watts. Probably a bit more when you factor in the LED drop, whatever it
is. Significantly less than a regular light bulb!

Eisboch


Most LED's are in the 400mw range.


Does that include the new, high powered ones? The are being used on trucks
for brake lights, turn signals and other places to replace bulbs. They are
incredibly bright. Maybe the brightness is due to optics being used, like a
Fresnel lens or something.

Eisboch




JimH December 30th 05 02:40 AM

Gonna change the oil
 

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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First version, otherwise why use 6 resistors instead of one single
lower ohmage one of higher power.


I was trying to roughly calculate the power requirements. You said 600
ohm resistors, correct? The voltage drop on the LED will be minimal when
forward biased or "on", so each branch must be about .02 amps, times six
equals .12 amps, so the power must be about 12v times .12 or about 1.4
watts. Probably a bit more when you factor in the LED drop, whatever it
is. Significantly less than a regular light bulb!

Eisboch


Most LED's are in the 400mw range.


How about the standard 12v bulb used for anchor lights?



[email protected] December 30th 05 02:44 AM

Gonna change the oil
 
OK, my recollection from a web site about LED use said to figure a
voltage drop of 3.4 volts for the white ultrabrights leaving about a 9
volt drop for the resistor. At 600 ohms, this gives about .015 amp
through each resistor and LED. Yes, the correct resistor wattage is
less than 1/4 watt but I hate blowing resistorswhen odd things happen
and space saving is not a consideration here. Radio Shack had nothing
even as alrge as 1/4 watt less than 1000 ohms.


Eisboch December 30th 05 02:44 AM

Gonna change the oil
 

" JimH" wrote in message
...

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
.net...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
ups.com...
First version, otherwise why use 6 resistors instead of one single
lower ohmage one of higher power.


I was trying to roughly calculate the power requirements. You said 600
ohm resistors, correct? The voltage drop on the LED will be minimal
when forward biased or "on", so each branch must be about .02 amps,
times six equals .12 amps, so the power must be about 12v times .12 or
about 1.4 watts. Probably a bit more when you factor in the LED drop,
whatever it is. Significantly less than a regular light bulb!

Eisboch


Most LED's are in the 400mw range.


How about the standard 12v bulb used for anchor lights?

I don't know what their wattage rating typically is. My guess would be
somewhere between 10 - 20 watts, given that they are required to be seen,
what, 2 miles away at night?

Eisboch



[email protected] December 30th 05 02:47 AM

Gonna change the oil
 
For the sake of comparison, a normal anchor light is 12 watts. These
LEDs are seriously bright, ordered em from Digi-Key.


Eisboch December 30th 05 02:47 AM

Gonna change the oil
 

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OK, my recollection from a web site about LED use said to figure a
voltage drop of 3.4 volts for the white ultrabrights leaving about a 9
volt drop for the resistor. At 600 ohms, this gives about .015 amp
through each resistor and LED. Yes, the correct resistor wattage is
less than 1/4 watt but I hate blowing resistorswhen odd things happen
and space saving is not a consideration here. Radio Shack had nothing
even as alrge as 1/4 watt less than 1000 ohms.


That's what I really dislike about the "new" Radio Shack. I suspect once
their inventory of discrete components are gone, you won't be able to buy
*any* resistors, capacitors or anything there.

Eisboch



[email protected] December 30th 05 02:52 AM

Gonna change the oil
 
I'll admit, half the stuff I try doesnt work but i suspect this will.
Anothetr thing I am trying is to wire my solar panel as a way to turn
off the anchor light at night. I got the idea from a web site I saw so
I lay no claim to it. They connect a NC relay across the solar panel.
When it generates power, it powers the relay (30 mWatt) which turns off
the anchor light. Of course I'll incorporate a switch to turn off the
entire thing, relay incluided. Radio Shack did have the relay.


Eisboch December 30th 05 02:56 AM

Gonna change the oil
 

wrote in message
oups.com...

I'll admit, half the stuff I try doesnt work but i suspect this will.
Anothetr thing I am trying is to wire my solar panel as a way to turn
off the anchor light at night. I got the idea from a web site I saw so
I lay no claim to it. They connect a NC relay across the solar panel.
When it generates power, it powers the relay (30 mWatt) which turns off
the anchor light. Of course I'll incorporate a switch to turn off the
entire thing, relay incluided. Radio Shack did have the relay.


You have a great attitude. People get smart not by always knowing what
works, but rather what doesn't. You never know until you try.

Eisboch



JimH December 30th 05 03:02 AM

Gonna change the oil
 

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

" JimH" wrote in message
...

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
.net...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
ups.com...
First version, otherwise why use 6 resistors instead of one single
lower ohmage one of higher power.


I was trying to roughly calculate the power requirements. You said 600
ohm resistors, correct? The voltage drop on the LED will be minimal
when forward biased or "on", so each branch must be about .02 amps,
times six equals .12 amps, so the power must be about 12v times .12 or
about 1.4 watts. Probably a bit more when you factor in the LED drop,
whatever it is. Significantly less than a regular light bulb!

Eisboch


Most LED's are in the 400mw range.


How about the standard 12v bulb used for anchor lights?

I don't know what their wattage rating typically is. My guess would be
somewhere between 10 - 20 watts, given that they are required to be seen,
what, 2 miles away at night?

Eisboch



What is the benefit for a boater on the hook overnight besides having a
brighter anchor light? Is there a significant less draw on the house
battery over a 10 hour period?




[email protected] December 30th 05 03:06 AM

Gonna change the oil
 
Less than half the draw on the house battery.



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