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JohnH wrote:
On 21 Dec 2005 06:06:43 -0800, "Mule" wrote:

http://www.drudgereport.com/flash8.htm

Bill Clinton Signed Executive Order that allowed Attorney General to do
searches without court approval

Clinton, February 9, 1995: "The Attorney General is authorized to
approve physical searches, without a court order"

WASH POST, July 15, 1994: Extend not only to searches of the homes of
U.S. citizens but also -- in the delicate words of a Justice Department
official -- to "places where you wouldn't find or would be unlikely to
find information involving a U.S. citizen... would allow the government
to use classified electronic surveillance techniques, such as infrared
sensors to observe people inside their homes, without a court order."

Deputy Attorney General Jamie S. Gorelick, the Clinton administration
believes the president "has inherent authority to conduct warrantless
searches for foreign intelligence purposes."

Secret searches and wiretaps of Aldrich Ames's office and home in June
and October 1993, both without a federal warrant.

Government officials decided in the Ames case that no warrant was
required because the searches were conducted for "foreign intelligence
purposes," a goal of such vital national security interest that they
said it justified extraordinary police powers.

Government lawyers have used this principle to justify other secret
searches by U.S. authorities

Jimmy Carter Signed Executive Order on May 23, 1979: "Attorney General
is authorized to approve electronic surveillance to acquire foreign
intelligence information without a court order."

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And this wasn't even in a time of WAR !!!!!

I wonder why this wasn't in the time artical???


Because they were Democrats. Simple.
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And he takes the lure.........
Didn't take long.....


The lure was tipped with a nightcrawler, a day-old minnow, an entire can of
tuna with holes punched in it, and a piece of catfish stinkbait the size of
a golf ball. John could not resist.


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"Fred Dehl" wrote in message
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"Mule" wrote in
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I have no problem with the POTUS spying on less than 1000 people in a
country of 200,000,000 in a time of war.


On what date did Congress declare war?\


And when was the last declaration of war? How many battles been fought
since then?


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Chuck,
An effective fisherman knows how to dangle that bait in a very effective
manner.

We do have a few great fisherman in the group, but it does seem to be much
more civil.




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JohnH wrote:
On 21 Dec 2005 06:06:43 -0800, "Mule" wrote:

http://www.drudgereport.com/flash8.htm

Bill Clinton Signed Executive Order that allowed Attorney General to do
searches without court approval

Clinton, February 9, 1995: "The Attorney General is authorized to
approve physical searches, without a court order"

WASH POST, July 15, 1994: Extend not only to searches of the homes of
U.S. citizens but also -- in the delicate words of a Justice Department
official -- to "places where you wouldn't find or would be unlikely to
find information involving a U.S. citizen... would allow the government
to use classified electronic surveillance techniques, such as infrared
sensors to observe people inside their homes, without a court order."

Deputy Attorney General Jamie S. Gorelick, the Clinton administration
believes the president "has inherent authority to conduct warrantless
searches for foreign intelligence purposes."

Secret searches and wiretaps of Aldrich Ames's office and home in June
and October 1993, both without a federal warrant.

Government officials decided in the Ames case that no warrant was
required because the searches were conducted for "foreign intelligence
purposes," a goal of such vital national security interest that they
said it justified extraordinary police powers.

Government lawyers have used this principle to justify other secret
searches by U.S. authorities

Jimmy Carter Signed Executive Order on May 23, 1979: "Attorney General
is authorized to approve electronic surveillance to acquire foreign
intelligence information without a court order."

-------------------------------------------------------------

And this wasn't even in a time of WAR !!!!!

I wonder why this wasn't in the time artical???


Because they were Democrats. Simple.
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John H

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*****...and your New Year even Better!*****



(psst. Hey JohnH. don't take the bait) Merry almost Christmas.




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Bill McKee
 
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"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
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On 21 Dec 2005 06:06:43 -0800, "Mule" wrote:

http://www.drudgereport.com/flash8.htm

Bill Clinton Signed Executive Order that allowed Attorney General to do
searches without court approval

Clinton, February 9, 1995: "The Attorney General is authorized to
approve physical searches, without a court order"


So, your point is that if Clinton got BJs in the oval office, it is OK
for Bush, too? Right?

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Doug Kanter wrote:
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JohnH wrote:
On 21 Dec 2005 06:06:43 -0800, "Mule" wrote:

http://www.drudgereport.com/flash8.htm

Bill Clinton Signed Executive Order that allowed Attorney General to do
searches without court approval

Clinton, February 9, 1995: "The Attorney General is authorized to
approve physical searches, without a court order"

WASH POST, July 15, 1994: Extend not only to searches of the homes of
U.S. citizens but also -- in the delicate words of a Justice Department
official -- to "places where you wouldn't find or would be unlikely to
find information involving a U.S. citizen... would allow the government
to use classified electronic surveillance techniques, such as infrared
sensors to observe people inside their homes, without a court order."

Deputy Attorney General Jamie S. Gorelick, the Clinton administration
believes the president "has inherent authority to conduct warrantless
searches for foreign intelligence purposes."

Secret searches and wiretaps of Aldrich Ames's office and home in June
and October 1993, both without a federal warrant.

Government officials decided in the Ames case that no warrant was
required because the searches were conducted for "foreign intelligence
purposes," a goal of such vital national security interest that they
said it justified extraordinary police powers.

Government lawyers have used this principle to justify other secret
searches by U.S. authorities

Jimmy Carter Signed Executive Order on May 23, 1979: "Attorney General
is authorized to approve electronic surveillance to acquire foreign
intelligence information without a court order."

-------------------------------------------------------------

And this wasn't even in a time of WAR !!!!!

I wonder why this wasn't in the time artical???

Because they were Democrats. Simple.
--

And he takes the lure.........
Didn't take long.....


The lure was tipped with a nightcrawler, a day-old minnow, an entire can of
tuna with holes punched in it, and a piece of catfish stinkbait the size of
a golf ball. John could not resist.

You forgot the Limburger cheese and cat entrails.....

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