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On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 21:54:48 -0800, Tamaroak wrote:

And he admits violating the law

He did not.

and says he will do it again. It's
interesting to note that the special secret court organized to hear the
probable cause for these wiretaps has only turned down one of them and
that the NSA can proceed with a tap under the current law if they obtain
a warrant within a specified period, 48 hours, I think. So, it would
appear that the only real reason to circumvent due process is to prevent
the court from finding out who they are surveilling.

One of our legislators recently tried to remind him that it's President
bush, not KING bush. If we don't step on this guy's fingers on this one,
he's going to have all those in uniforms chasing those without.

Capt. Jeff

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John H

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Tamaroak wrote:
And he admits violating the law and says he will do it again. It's
interesting to note that the special secret court organized to hear the
probable cause for these wiretaps has only turned down one of them and
that the NSA can proceed with a tap under the current law if they obtain
a warrant within a specified period, 48 hours, I think. So, it would
appear that the only real reason to circumvent due process is to prevent
the court from finding out who they are surveilling.

One of our legislators recently tried to remind him that it's President
bush, not KING bush. If we don't step on this guy's fingers on this one,
he's going to have all those in uniforms chasing those without.

Capt. Jeff


Now, be nice. We all know Presidummy has special dispensation from Jesus
to ignore the Constitution of the United States and the country's laws.

They're just pieces of paper, after all.

jps

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"JohnH" wrote in message
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On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 21:54:48 -0800, Tamaroak wrote:

And he admits violating the law

He did not.

He didn't deny doing what's been claimed. His best answer so far has been "I
can't discuss it", or "I'll do whatever's necessary to protect blah blah
blah". You wouldn't let your kids get away with crap like that.

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"JohnH" wrote in message
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On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 21:54:48 -0800, Tamaroak wrote:

And he admits violating the law

He did not.

If Pres. Bush violated the law, then the US Congress was complicit in that
law breaking. Are we going ot arrest the Congressmen that new about this and
kept silent?

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We have people who want a law against torture because they assure us it
could be violated in extraordinary circumstance (the a-bomb and
terrorist example) yet when some laws are violated in extraordinary
circumstances they want to criticize. They seem to strive to be
consistently inconsistent.
It would seem more logical to me that those who want a law against
torture, expecting it to be violated in extraordinary circumstance
would have few problems with a violation of another law in a very
similar extraordinary circumstance.

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We have people who want a law against torture because they assure us it
could be violated in extraordinary circumstance (the a-bomb and
terrorist example) yet when some laws are violated in extraordinary
circumstances they want to criticize. They seem to strive to be
consistently inconsistent.
It would seem more logical to me that those who want a law against
torture, expecting it to be violated in extraordinary circumstance
would have few problems with a violation of another law in a very
similar extraordinary circumstance.


Perhaps if your president was honest about it, it wouldn't be such an issue.
Actually, he *will* be honest about it, as soon as Uncle Karl tells him to.

Our Fuhrer has done it again
 

I am so envious of Karl Rove being called "Evil Genius". I thought
that people had titles like that only in Power Puff Girl episodes. I
am going to demand that my employees make me a sign for my office door
saying "Evil Genius" and address me that way.

Our Fuhrer has done it again
 

And he admits violating the law and says he will do it again. It's
interesting to note that the special secret court organized to hear the
probable cause for these wiretaps has only turned down one of them and
that the NSA can proceed with a tap under the current law if they obtain
a warrant within a specified period, 48 hours, I think. So, it would
appear that the only real reason to circumvent due process is to prevent
the court from finding out who they are surveilling.

One of our legislators recently tried to remind him that it's President
bush, not KING bush. If we don't step on this guy's fingers on this one,
he's going to have all those in uniforms chasing those without.

Capt. Jeff

Our Fuhrer has done it again
 

JohnH wrote:
He did not.


Ever read the 4th amendment to the Constitution?

On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 21:54:48 -0800, Tamaroak wrote:


And he admits violating the law


He did not.


and says he will do it again. It's
interesting to note that the special secret court organized to hear the
probable cause for these wiretaps has only turned down one of them and
that the NSA can proceed with a tap under the current law if they obtain
a warrant within a specified period, 48 hours, I think. So, it would
appear that the only real reason to circumvent due process is to prevent
the court from finding out who they are surveilling.

One of our legislators recently tried to remind him that it's President
bush, not KING bush. If we don't step on this guy's fingers on this one,
he's going to have all those in uniforms chasing those without.

Capt. Jeff


--
John H

**** May your Christmas be Spectacular!****
*****...and your New Year even Better!*****

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On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 04:46:47 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
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On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 21:54:48 -0800, Tamaroak wrote:

And he admits violating the law

He did not.

He didn't deny doing what's been claimed. His best answer so far has been "I
can't discuss it", or "I'll do whatever's necessary to protect blah blah
blah". You wouldn't let your kids get away with crap like that.


The statement was, "And he admits violating the law." That was a false statement.

"In the weeks following the terrorist attacks on our nation, I authorized the National Security
Agency, consistent with U.S. law and the Constitution, to intercept the international communications
of people with known links to al Qaeda and related terrorist organizations. Before we intercept
these communications, the government must have information that establishes a clear link to these
terrorist networks." (From the President's Radio Address, 17 Dec.)
--
John H

**** May your Christmas be Spectacular!****
*****...and your New Year even Better!*****