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Well, I am never more than an occaisional poster, but for now I am saying
goodbye for a while. Rogers is dropping USENET tomorrow, apparently because it takes up too much bandwidth (but is not used by a large number of people?). I think it must be because they have the binaries groups on line, when simply shutting off the binaries would cut bandwidth without breaking up useful communication around the world. Dropping the alt.!"#$ groups would also help that, but I guess that is too easy. Rogers did this just like it dumped user web pages onto Yahoo-Geocities (where they get advertising dollars for your page) with kids and their web pages about kitties and puppies. I am unhappy with the decrease in service, and so I will be looking to see if I can and should switch my internet service. http://www.canadianisp.com/ has a very comprehensive search for Canadian ISPs. People of the Internet: I shall return! GaryJ -- Archive for the alternate timeline: France Stays in the War http://users.domaindlx.com/fantasque/index.htm |
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Gary, have you ever tried to use Google groups?
From work I tend to use this link to read and reply to RBP: http://groups.google.nl/group/rec.boats.paddle (requires a free account to post and doesn't carry all usenet groups though) HTH Wilko http://kayaker.nl |
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Yes, thanks, especially for finding old stuff, but I find it is not as handy as
the old USENET service coming right into my mail reader. GaryJ wrote: Gary, have you ever tried to use Google groups? From work I tend to use this link to read and reply to RBP: http://groups.google.nl/group/rec.boats.paddle (requires a free account to post and doesn't carry all usenet groups though) HTH Wilko http://kayaker.nl -- Archive for the alternate timeline: France Stays in the War http://users.domaindlx.com/fantasque/index.htm |
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On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 09:59:24 -0500, GaryJ wrote:
Yes, thanks, especially for finding old stuff, but I find it is not as handy as the old USENET service coming right into my mail reader. GaryJ wrote: Gary, have you ever tried to use Google groups? From work I tend to use this link to read and reply to RBP: http://groups.google.nl/group/rec.boats.paddle (requires a free account to post and doesn't carry all usenet groups though) HTH Wilko http://kayaker.nl GaryJ, check out this link to free news servers http://freenews.maxbaud.net/ My ISP, MSN.com, dropped providing newserver access previously, for the same reasons. The free services don't always have all the bells and whistles, and sometimes limited services, but subscribe to a couple different ones, and you can get complete access, and you can continue using your tried and true news reader! OvO |
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Thanks! Looks like a great resource.
Who-Who-hoo-hoo Who-Who-hoo-hwaa GaryJ RkyMtnHootOwl wrote: GaryJ, check out this link to free news servers http://freenews.maxbaud.net/ -- Archive for the alternate timeline: France Stays in the War http://users.domaindlx.com/fantasque/index.htm |
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Gary J. MacDonald wrote:
... Rogers is dropping USENET tomorrow, apparently because it takes up too much bandwidth (but is not used by a large number of people?). The big media companies don't like Usenet because people spend time listening to each other, rather than to corporate media BS. Are you in Canada? My ISP is great, but I'm not sure they do Canada. Hope you find a better ISP soon. I agree it's better to read news using a feed than using the Google interface. |
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"Bill Tuthill" wrote in message ... Gary J. MacDonald wrote: ... Rogers is dropping USENET tomorrow, apparently because it takes up too much bandwidth (but is not used by a large number of people?). The big media companies don't like Usenet because people spend time listening to each other, rather than to corporate media BS. Are you in Canada? My ISP is great, but I'm not sure they do Canada. Hope you find a better ISP soon. I agree it's better to read news using a feed than using the Google interface. Google groups is annoying, and most people who use it don't even understand what a newsgroup is, and they post messages where there are no headers and only other googlegroups users can understand what the hell is going on. The reason Rogers dumped it is you can't put banner ads and other crap on a news feed. It doesn't generate revenue. It's just something customers want, but that doesn't matter to them. |
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On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 12:54:19 -0500, GaryJ wrote:
Thanks! Looks like a great resource. Who-Who-hoo-hoo Who-Who-hoo-hwaa GaryJ RkyMtnHootOwl wrote: GaryJ, check out this link to free news servers http://freenews.maxbaud.net/ Yeah, I used the Google portal up until recently, and caught flack here and elsewhere. I use it now as a back up, or when I am online away from my desktop. Melissa R. put me onto the News Services. I came to realize that all I need for ISP is Internet Access. I do not need the push content of the big ISP like AOL or others. MSN gives me 10 pop3 accounts, but otherwise I would rather go to specific content providers for specific services that do a better job. The ISP typically do not put a high priority on News service, so retention and bandwidth suffered, so they are probably doing us all a favor to get out of the business. I had read that Rogers was stopping the newserver service, but if you still have reliable access to internet at a reasonable price, then keep that and check out other content service providers. OvO |
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"RkyMtnHootOwl" wrote in message oups.com... On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 12:54:19 -0500, GaryJ wrote: Thanks! Looks like a great resource. Who-Who-hoo-hoo Who-Who-hoo-hwaa GaryJ RkyMtnHootOwl wrote: GaryJ, check out this link to free news servers http://freenews.maxbaud.net/ Yeah, I used the Google portal up until recently, and caught flack here and elsewhere. I use it now as a back up, or when I am online away from my desktop. Melissa R. put me onto the News Services. I came to realize that all I need for ISP is Internet Access. I do not need the push content of the big ISP like AOL or others. The fact that AOL is actually a successful business shows just how screwed up the world really is. |
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On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 15:10:59 -0500, KMAN wrote:
"RkyMtnHootOwl" wrote in message oups.com... On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 12:54:19 -0500, GaryJ wrote: Thanks! Looks like a great resource. Who-Who-hoo-hoo Who-Who-hoo-hwaa GaryJ RkyMtnHootOwl wrote: GaryJ, check out this link to free news servers http://freenews.maxbaud.net/ Yeah, I used the Google portal up until recently, and caught flack here and elsewhere. I use it now as a back up, or when I am online away from my desktop. Melissa R. put me onto the News Services. I came to realize that all I need for ISP is Internet Access. I do not need the push content of the big ISP like AOL or others. The fact that AOL is actually a successful business shows just how screwed up the world really is. Was it Barnum who said "Show me a Fool, and I will show you a way to separate him from his money!" or something along that line OvO |
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On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 14:44:59 -0500, KMAN wrote:
"Bill Tuthill" wrote in message ... Gary J. MacDonald wrote: ... Rogers is dropping USENET tomorrow, apparently because it takes up too much bandwidth (but is not used by a large number of people?). The big media companies don't like Usenet because people spend time listening to each other, rather than to corporate media BS. Are you in Canada? My ISP is great, but I'm not sure they do Canada. Hope you find a better ISP soon. I agree it's better to read news using a feed than using the Google interface. Google groups is annoying, and most people who use it don't even understand what a newsgroup is, and they post messages where there are no headers and only other googlegroups users can understand what the hell is going on. The reason Rogers dumped it is you can't put banner ads and other crap on a news feed. It doesn't generate revenue. It's just something customers want, but that doesn't matter to them. Yes, it was a great way to annoy you! Hopefully I am getting better at it now! OvO |
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"RkyMtnHootOwl" wrote in message ... On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 15:10:59 -0500, KMAN wrote: "RkyMtnHootOwl" wrote in message oups.com... On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 12:54:19 -0500, GaryJ wrote: Thanks! Looks like a great resource. Who-Who-hoo-hoo Who-Who-hoo-hwaa GaryJ RkyMtnHootOwl wrote: GaryJ, check out this link to free news servers http://freenews.maxbaud.net/ Yeah, I used the Google portal up until recently, and caught flack here and elsewhere. I use it now as a back up, or when I am online away from my desktop. Melissa R. put me onto the News Services. I came to realize that all I need for ISP is Internet Access. I do not need the push content of the big ISP like AOL or others. The fact that AOL is actually a successful business shows just how screwed up the world really is. Was it Barnum who said "Show me a Fool, and I will show you a way to separate him from his money!" or something along that line OvO As an AOL customer (and now an MSN customer?!?!?!) you would know! vOv |
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On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 17:50:55 -0500, KMAN wrote:
"RkyMtnHootOwl" wrote in message ... On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 15:10:59 -0500, KMAN wrote: "RkyMtnHootOwl" wrote in message oups.com... On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 12:54:19 -0500, GaryJ wrote: Thanks! Looks like a great resource. Who-Who-hoo-hoo Who-Who-hoo-hwaa GaryJ RkyMtnHootOwl wrote: GaryJ, check out this link to free news servers http://freenews.maxbaud.net/ Yeah, I used the Google portal up until recently, and caught flack here and elsewhere. I use it now as a back up, or when I am online away from my desktop. Melissa R. put me onto the News Services. I came to realize that all I need for ISP is Internet Access. I do not need the push content of the big ISP like AOL or others. The fact that AOL is actually a successful business shows just how screwed up the world really is. Was it Barnum who said "Show me a Fool, and I will show you a way to separate him from his money!" or something along that line OvO As an AOL customer (and now an MSN customer?!?!?!) you would know! vOv Nope, you must have me comfused with someone else, I never had AOL, and MSN gets pushed on us by Qwest DSL. All they provide now is Internet portal, 24/7 support for DSL, and 10 pop3 accts. There are other DSL providers, but they just rebundle Qwest DSL, since there is just the one network. I have been considering Comcast that provides higher speed, but more expensive, and I can only type so fast,KKKnnnn |
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"RkyMtnHootOwl" wrote in message ... On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 17:50:55 -0500, KMAN wrote: "RkyMtnHootOwl" wrote in message ... On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 15:10:59 -0500, KMAN wrote: "RkyMtnHootOwl" wrote in message oups.com... On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 12:54:19 -0500, GaryJ wrote: Thanks! Looks like a great resource. Who-Who-hoo-hoo Who-Who-hoo-hwaa GaryJ RkyMtnHootOwl wrote: GaryJ, check out this link to free news servers http://freenews.maxbaud.net/ Yeah, I used the Google portal up until recently, and caught flack here and elsewhere. I use it now as a back up, or when I am online away from my desktop. Melissa R. put me onto the News Services. I came to realize that all I need for ISP is Internet Access. I do not need the push content of the big ISP like AOL or others. The fact that AOL is actually a successful business shows just how screwed up the world really is. Was it Barnum who said "Show me a Fool, and I will show you a way to separate him from his money!" or something along that line OvO As an AOL customer (and now an MSN customer?!?!?!) you would know! vOv Nope, you must have me comfused with someone else, I never had AOL, and MSN gets pushed on us by Qwest DSL. All they provide now is Internet portal, 24/7 support for DSL, and 10 pop3 accts. There are other DSL providers, but they just rebundle Qwest DSL, since there is just the one network. I have been considering Comcast that provides higher speed, but more expensive, and I can only type so fast,KKKnnnn You said: "I came to realize that all I need for ISP is Internet Access. I do not need the push content of the big ISP like AOL or others." I thought this indicated that there was a time that you did use AOL, and then decided not to anymore. You also said: "MSN gives me 10 pop3 accounts" Which fooled me into thinking you were using MSN. |
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I got an unadvertised deal from Qwest, which is called Qwest basic, for
which I pay $25/mo for 256K DSL. I don't even get an email address for that price, just a pipe to the internet. I pay $6/mo to AT&T for webhosting, 6 email addresses, and usenet. I had been with AT&T when I was on dialup, and I did not see a good reason to move. If I did not need webhosting I would probably have gotten a cheap or free POP3 email account. Google is offering a free POP3 account nowadays. The reason people go with AOL is not stupidity, it is convenience, and doing what their friends and family does. Despite having a few college degrees, it took me a lot of effort to get my Qwest/AT&T DSL service working correctly. Most people would probably be better off hiring a tech guy to get it all working. Richard RkyMtnHootOwl wrote: The fact that AOL is actually a successful business shows just how screwed up the world really is. Was it Barnum who said "Show me a Fool, and I will show you a way to separate him from his money!" or something along that line OvO As an AOL customer (and now an MSN customer?!?!?!) you would know! vOv Nope, you must have me comfused with someone else, I never had AOL, and MSN gets pushed on us by Qwest DSL. All they provide now is Internet portal, 24/7 support for DSL, and 10 pop3 accts. There are other DSL providers, but they just rebundle Qwest DSL, since there is just the one network. I have been considering Comcast that provides higher speed, but more expensive, and I can only type so fast,KKKnnnn -- http://www.fergusonsculpture.com Sculptures in copper and other metals |
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On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:48:10 -0500, KMAN wrote:
"RkyMtnHootOwl" wrote in message ... On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 17:50:55 -0500, KMAN wrote: "RkyMtnHootOwl" wrote in message ... snip As an AOL customer (and now an MSN customer?!?!?!) you would know! vOv Nope, you must have me comfused with someone else, I never had AOL, and MSN gets pushed on us by Qwest DSL. All they provide now is Internet portal, 24/7 support for DSL, and 10 pop3 accts. There are other DSL providers, but they just rebundle Qwest DSL, since there is just the one network. I have been considering Comcast that provides higher speed, but more expensive, and I can only type so fast,KKKnnnn The cross thread post mentions web page, and I remembered that I do have I think, 30 meg available, which I am trying to learn more about. You said: "I came to realize that all I need for ISP is Internet Access. I do not need the push content of the big ISP like AOL or others." I thought this indicated that there was a time that you did use AOL, and then decided not to anymore. You also said: "MSN gives me 10 pop3 accounts" Which fooled me into thinking you were using MSN. Sorry about the discontinuity, I forgot that causes you much distress! I do have MSN, Not AOL. Use to get all those AOL cds, which were real enticing just to slip in the CD, and in a few key strokes, you would be on line and plugged into the incredible world of AOL. I was just never ready to put on their shade of colored glasses. I started playing with computers back with CP/M and bulletin boards, when everything was difficult. You could not just install a printer and have all the drivers work, so any thing as easy as AOL was immediately suspect. My first "ISP" was the local bulletin board with their version of push technology and content. You could find out in the blink of an eye, of my 1200 baud dialup modem when the next computer meeting was being held. Boy, that was exciting. Expecially when they came out with GUI! Those were the days my friend...! OvO |
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On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 03:44:57 GMT, Richard Ferguson wrote:
I got an unadvertised deal from Qwest, which is called Qwest basic, for which I pay $25/mo for 256K DSL. I don't even get an email address for that price, just a pipe to the internet. I pay $6/mo to AT&T for webhosting, 6 email addresses, and usenet. I had been with AT&T when I was on dialup, and I did not see a good reason to move. If I did not need webhosting I would probably have gotten a cheap or free POP3 email account. Google is offering a free POP3 account nowadays. I have tried to check out the Gmail, but it is on invitation basis, beta testing. Is that what you mean by Google and POP3 accts? The reason people go with AOL is not stupidity, it is convenience, and doing what their friends and family does. When AOL first came on line, they were providing content that you could not easily find on line. However most of their content now is readily accessible through Yahoo, Google, and IM and chat accts. I have not done much with VOIP, but I expect that is the next area where they will be left behind by specific providers, if not already. However when they first came out, they were the company to imitate! I have not kept up on what the effect of alternative OS like Linux have on AOL, or browsers like Firefox. Essentially AOL was a browser, and because of that, it could be left out, unless there is another CD rain storm! Despite having a few college degrees, it took me a lot of effort to get my Qwest/AT&T DSL service working correctly. Most people would probably be better off hiring a tech guy to get it all working. Richard RkyMtnHootOwl wrote: The fact that AOL is actually a successful business shows just how screwed up the world really is. Was it Barnum who said "Show me a Fool, and I will show you a way to separate him from his money!" or something along that line OvO As an AOL customer (and now an MSN customer?!?!?!) you would know! vOv Nope, you must have me comfused with someone else, I never had AOL, and MSN gets pushed on us by Qwest DSL. All they provide now is Internet portal, 24/7 support for DSL, and 10 pop3 accts. There are other DSL providers, but they just rebundle Qwest DSL, since there is just the one network. I have been considering Comcast that provides higher speed, but more expensive, and I can only type so fast,KKKnnnn Again I forgot that I have the 1.5 meg package, and it also provides anywhere, anytime dialup access, so that I don't need any other ISP. But then I don't travel much. Use it mostly when I am here in town, where there is no DSL, and I need to download some info. Much slower when you are use to 1.5 but will get the job done! OvO |
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"RkyMtnHootOwl" wrote in message ... On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:48:10 -0500, KMAN wrote: "RkyMtnHootOwl" wrote in message ... On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 17:50:55 -0500, KMAN wrote: "RkyMtnHootOwl" wrote in message ... snip As an AOL customer (and now an MSN customer?!?!?!) you would know! vOv Nope, you must have me comfused with someone else, I never had AOL, and MSN gets pushed on us by Qwest DSL. All they provide now is Internet portal, 24/7 support for DSL, and 10 pop3 accts. There are other DSL providers, but they just rebundle Qwest DSL, since there is just the one network. I have been considering Comcast that provides higher speed, but more expensive, and I can only type so fast,KKKnnnn The cross thread post mentions web page, and I remembered that I do have I think, 30 meg available, which I am trying to learn more about. You said: "I came to realize that all I need for ISP is Internet Access. I do not need the push content of the big ISP like AOL or others." I thought this indicated that there was a time that you did use AOL, and then decided not to anymore. You also said: "MSN gives me 10 pop3 accounts" Which fooled me into thinking you were using MSN. Sorry about the discontinuity, I forgot that causes you much distress! There's no distress, but as you can probably imagine, in text-based communication, your constant 2+2=5 style of communication is a challenge to anyone who functions within logical paramaters. I do have MSN, Not AOL. Wow, you really are an idiot! Use to get all those AOL cds, which were real enticing just to slip in the CD, and in a few key strokes, you would be on line and plugged into the incredible world of AOL. I was just never ready to put on their shade of colored glasses. I started playing with computers back with CP/M and bulletin boards, when everything was difficult. You could not just install a printer and have all the drivers work, so any thing as easy as AOL was immediately suspect. My first "ISP" was the local bulletin board with their version of push technology and content. You could find out in the blink of an eye, of my 1200 baud dialup modem when the next computer meeting was being held. Boy, that was exciting. Expecially when they came out with GUI! Those were the days my friend...! OvO I used to do gopher programming. |
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"RkyMtnHootOwl" wrote in message ... On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 03:44:57 GMT, Richard Ferguson wrote: I got an unadvertised deal from Qwest, which is called Qwest basic, for which I pay $25/mo for 256K DSL. I don't even get an email address for that price, just a pipe to the internet. I pay $6/mo to AT&T for webhosting, 6 email addresses, and usenet. I had been with AT&T when I was on dialup, and I did not see a good reason to move. If I did not need webhosting I would probably have gotten a cheap or free POP3 email account. Google is offering a free POP3 account nowadays. I have tried to check out the Gmail, but it is on invitation basis, beta testing. Is that what you mean by Google and POP3 accts? I'd send you an invitation, but potentially that would be just one more idiot on googlegroups. |
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On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 09:39:22 -0500, KMAN wrote:
"RkyMtnHootOwl" wrote in message ... On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 03:44:57 GMT, Richard Ferguson wrote: I got an unadvertised deal from Qwest, which is called Qwest basic, for which I pay $25/mo for 256K DSL. I don't even get an email address for that price, just a pipe to the internet. I pay $6/mo to AT&T for webhosting, 6 email addresses, and usenet. I had been with AT&T when I was on dialup, and I did not see a good reason to move. If I did not need webhosting I would probably have gotten a cheap or free POP3 email account. Google is offering a free POP3 account nowadays. I have tried to check out the Gmail, but it is on invitation basis, beta testing. Is that what you mean by Google and POP3 accts? I'd send you an invitation, but potentially that would be just one more idiot on googlegroups. Here I was being nice to you, and I thought we were having such a nice conversation, and you have to go get all ****y! Enjoy ****ing by yourself! OvO |
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"RkyMtnHootOwl" wrote in message ... On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 09:39:22 -0500, KMAN wrote: "RkyMtnHootOwl" wrote in message ... On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 03:44:57 GMT, Richard Ferguson wrote: I got an unadvertised deal from Qwest, which is called Qwest basic, for which I pay $25/mo for 256K DSL. I don't even get an email address for that price, just a pipe to the internet. I pay $6/mo to AT&T for webhosting, 6 email addresses, and usenet. I had been with AT&T when I was on dialup, and I did not see a good reason to move. If I did not need webhosting I would probably have gotten a cheap or free POP3 email account. Google is offering a free POP3 account nowadays. I have tried to check out the Gmail, but it is on invitation basis, beta testing. Is that what you mean by Google and POP3 accts? I'd send you an invitation, but potentially that would be just one more idiot on googlegroups. Here I was being nice to you, and I thought we were having such a nice conversation, and you have to go get all ****y! Enjoy ****ing by yourself! OvO [Hint for Tinkernhootowl: in order to ignore someone, you actually have to ignore them.] |
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in article , RkyMtnHootOwl at
wrote on 12/16/05 1:20 AM: On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 23:50:24 -0500, KMAN wrote: in article , John Fereira at wrote on 12/15/05 6:42 PM: "KMAN" wrote in : "RkyMtnHootOwl" wrote in message ... On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:48:10 -0500, KMAN wrote: "RkyMtnHootOwl" wrote in message ... On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 17:50:55 -0500, KMAN wrote: "RkyMtnHootOwl" wrote in message ... snip As an AOL customer (and now an MSN customer?!?!?!) you would know! vOv Nope, you must have me comfused with someone else, I never had AOL, and MSN gets pushed on us by Qwest DSL. All they provide now is Internet portal, 24/7 support for DSL, and 10 pop3 accts. There are other DSL providers, but they just rebundle Qwest DSL, since there is just the one network. I have been considering Comcast that provides higher speed, but more expensive, and I can only type so fast,KKKnnnn The cross thread post mentions web page, and I remembered that I do have I think, 30 meg available, which I am trying to learn more about. You said: "I came to realize that all I need for ISP is Internet Access. I do not need the push content of the big ISP like AOL or others." I thought this indicated that there was a time that you did use AOL, and then decided not to anymore. You also said: "MSN gives me 10 pop3 accounts" Which fooled me into thinking you were using MSN. Sorry about the discontinuity, I forgot that causes you much distress! There's no distress, but as you can probably imagine, in text-based communication, your constant 2+2=5 style of communication is a challenge to anyone who functions within logical paramaters. I do have MSN, Not AOL. Wow, you really are an idiot! Use to get all those AOL cds, which were real enticing just to slip in the CD, and in a few key strokes, you would be on line and plugged into the incredible world of AOL. I was just never ready to put on their shade of colored glasses. I started playing with computers back with CP/M and bulletin boards, when everything was difficult. You could not just install a printer and have all the drivers work, so any thing as easy as AOL was immediately suspect. My first "ISP" was the local bulletin board with their version of push technology and content. You could find out in the blink of an eye, of my 1200 baud dialup modem when the next computer meeting was being held. Boy, that was exciting. Expecially when they came out with GUI! Those were the days my friend...! OvO I used to do gopher programming. I used to do uucp programming. My first email address didn't have an @ sign in it. Want more? I set up the first tcp-ip network at Hewlett Packards workstation division. LOL. Yeah, but you're probably an older dude. So it's less impressive :-D Were we suppose to be impressed with "Gopher"? If you ever did gopher programming you would certainly not be impressed, but you would likely chuckle. I did not know you were from Minnesota! You are much more successful as a scumbag than a humorist. I did not sense that JF was trying to impress anyone, just stating fact relating to longevity of computing experience. I am joking around with him. As indicated by the relevant textual signs. These include "LOL" and ":-D" Whether or not he thinks it funny is one thing, but the humorous intent is not in question, nor will anyone but Tinkernhootowl think that I was making a serious criticism of JF. |
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On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 08:50:56 -0500, KMAN wrote:
in article , RkyMtnHootOwl at wrote on 12/16/05 1:20 AM: On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 23:50:24 -0500, KMAN wrote: in article , John Fereira at wrote on 12/15/05 6:42 PM: snip LOL. Yeah, but you're probably an older dude. So it's less impressive :-D Were we suppose to be impressed with "Gopher"? If you ever did gopher programming you would certainly not be impressed, but you would likely chuckle. I did not know you were from Minnesota! You are much more successful as a scumbag than a humorist. I did not sense that JF was trying to impress anyone, just stating fact relating to longevity of computing experience. I am joking around with him. As indicated by the relevant textual signs. These include "LOL" and ":-D" Is a wink, and relevant textual sign? Whether or not he thinks it funny is one thing, but the humorous intent is not in question, nor will anyone but Tinkernhootowl think that I was making a serious criticism of JF. No, I thought you were being a scumbag, and smearing older guys. Such enuendo! You ought to be ashamed of yourself, humiliated! OvO |
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"RkyMtnHootOwl" wrote in message ups.com... On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 08:50:56 -0500, KMAN wrote: in article , RkyMtnHootOwl at wrote on 12/16/05 1:20 AM: On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 23:50:24 -0500, KMAN wrote: in article , John Fereira at wrote on 12/15/05 6:42 PM: snip LOL. Yeah, but you're probably an older dude. So it's less impressive :-D Were we suppose to be impressed with "Gopher"? If you ever did gopher programming you would certainly not be impressed, but you would likely chuckle. I did not know you were from Minnesota! You are much more successful as a scumbag than a humorist. I did not sense that JF was trying to impress anyone, just stating fact relating to longevity of computing experience. I am joking around with him. As indicated by the relevant textual signs. These include "LOL" and ":-D" Is a wink, and relevant textual sign? Whether or not he thinks it funny is one thing, but the humorous intent is not in question, nor will anyone but Tinkernhootowl think that I was making a serious criticism of JF. No, I thought you were being a scumbag, and smearing older guys. Such enuendo! You ought to be ashamed of yourself, humiliated! OvO Unlike you, I was willing to clarify my statement. vOv |
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"John Fereira" wrote in message .. . KMAN wrote in : in article , RkyMtnHootOwl at wrote on 12/16/05 1:20 AM: On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 23:50:24 -0500, KMAN wrote: in article , John Fereira at wrote on 12/15/05 6:42 PM: "KMAN" wrote in : "RkyMtnHootOwl" wrote in message ... On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:48:10 -0500, KMAN wrote: "RkyMtnHootOwl" wrote in message ... On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 17:50:55 -0500, KMAN wrote: "RkyMtnHootOwl" wrote in message ... snip As an AOL customer (and now an MSN customer?!?!?!) you would know! vOv Nope, you must have me comfused with someone else, I never had AOL, and MSN gets pushed on us by Qwest DSL. All they provide now is Internet portal, 24/7 support for DSL, and 10 pop3 accts. There are other DSL providers, but they just rebundle Qwest DSL, since there is just the one network. I have been considering Comcast that provides higher speed, but more expensive, and I can only type so fast,KKKnnnn The cross thread post mentions web page, and I remembered that I do have I think, 30 meg available, which I am trying to learn more about. You said: "I came to realize that all I need for ISP is Internet Access. I do not need the push content of the big ISP like AOL or others." I thought this indicated that there was a time that you did use AOL, and then decided not to anymore. You also said: "MSN gives me 10 pop3 accounts" Which fooled me into thinking you were using MSN. Sorry about the discontinuity, I forgot that causes you much distress! There's no distress, but as you can probably imagine, in text-based communication, your constant 2+2=5 style of communication is a challenge to anyone who functions within logical paramaters. I do have MSN, Not AOL. Wow, you really are an idiot! Use to get all those AOL cds, which were real enticing just to slip in the CD, and in a few key strokes, you would be on line and plugged into the incredible world of AOL. I was just never ready to put on their shade of colored glasses. I started playing with computers back with CP/M and bulletin boards, when everything was difficult. You could not just install a printer and have all the drivers work, so any thing as easy as AOL was immediately suspect. My first "ISP" was the local bulletin board with their version of push technology and content. You could find out in the blink of an eye, of my 1200 baud dialup modem when the next computer meeting was being held. Boy, that was exciting. Expecially when they came out with GUI! Those were the days my friend...! OvO I used to do gopher programming. I used to do uucp programming. My first email address didn't have an @ sign in it. Want more? I set up the first tcp-ip network at Hewlett Packards workstation division. LOL. Yeah, but you're probably an older dude. So it's less impressive :-D Of course it's impressive. Didn't your momma teach you to respect your elders? Were we suppose to be impressed with "Gopher"? If you ever did gopher programming you would certainly not be impressed, but you would likely chuckle. For the past year or so I've been redesigning a document delivery and archival service for site a U.S. federal agency that began as a gopher server. That old gopher server was implemented with just a handful of files. The new site has 150 java classes, over 300 java server pages, about 90 xml files, and provides access to about 1800 individual titles. Last week I added 2400 individual issues from scanned documents going back to 1919. I did not know you were from Minnesota! You are much more successful as a scumbag than a humorist. I did not sense that JF was trying to impress anyone, just stating fact relating to longevity of computing experience. I am joking around with him. As indicated by the relevant textual signs. These include "LOL" and ":-D" Whether or not he thinks it funny is one thing, but the humorous intent is not in question, nor will anyone but Tinkernhootowl think that I was making a serious criticism of JF. Your comment was taken as it was intended. However, it appears to me that *both* of you have buttons that when barely tickled result in a strong reaction. It's perfectly okay for one of you to post something without the other reacting to it. Says you! Asshole!* * again, kidding |
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On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 22:09:14 -0500, KMAN wrote:
"John Fereira" wrote in message .. . KMAN wrote in : in article , RkyMtnHootOwl at wrote on 12/16/05 1:20 AM: snip I am joking around with him. As indicated by the relevant textual signs. These include "LOL" and ":-D" Whether or not he thinks it funny is one thing, but the humorous intent is not in question, nor will anyone but Tinkernhootowl think that I was making a serious criticism of JF. Your comment was taken as it was intended. However, it appears to me that *both* of you have buttons that when barely tickled result in a strong reaction. It's perfectly okay for one of you to post something without the other reacting to it. Says you! Asshole!* snip * again, kidding I see you have a sticky keyboard also KKK, hope you don't mind me doing a little snip'n, to make things easier to figure out! John F, don't mind KKKnnnnKlown, his keyboard gets stuck, and he has called me an "a-hole" so many times, that it just types the word almost by itself! KKKnnnnklown has dream pictures of himself as a well educated individual, but he has very limited vocabulary, and no one ever told him what the word means! He thinks it is a term of endearment! I just let him continue in his dream state, since waking up may be to big a shock for him! Actually he likes "a..holes", that is why he and I get along so well! Ov- |
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wrote on 12/17/05 12:27 AM: On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 22:09:14 -0500, KMAN wrote: "John Fereira" wrote in message .. . KMAN wrote in : in article , RkyMtnHootOwl at wrote on 12/16/05 1:20 AM: snip I am joking around with him. As indicated by the relevant textual signs. These include "LOL" and ":-D" Whether or not he thinks it funny is one thing, but the humorous intent is not in question, nor will anyone but Tinkernhootowl think that I was making a serious criticism of JF. Your comment was taken as it was intended. However, it appears to me that *both* of you have buttons that when barely tickled result in a strong reaction. It's perfectly okay for one of you to post something without the other reacting to it. Says you! Asshole!* snip * again, kidding I see snip I see you didn't consider John's advice! |
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On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 11:11:37 -0500, KMAN wrote:
in article , RkyMtnHootOwl at wrote on 12/17/05 12:27 AM: On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 22:09:14 -0500, KMAN wrote: "John Fereira" wrote in message .. . snip snip I see you didn't consider John's advice! Consider yes! Take, not necessarily! Nor yours! Nor you yours! It will be a long weekend, especially for you, with all that snow up there, if we have to set in the corners, with a dunces cap on, and not talk to one another! We just have a little snow! I would go paddling except for they closed the lake, something about the Park Ranger not wanting to have to be out there also in his little runabout! x|x ^ x|x ^ OvO x|x ******kkk****** ****** x|x |
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wrote on 12/17/05 5:45 PM: KMAN wrote in : in article , RkyMtnHootOwl at wrote on 12/17/05 12:27 AM: On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 22:09:14 -0500, KMAN wrote: "John Fereira" wrote in message .. . KMAN wrote in : in article , RkyMtnHootOwl at wrote on 12/16/05 1:20 AM: snip I am joking around with him. As indicated by the relevant textual signs. These include "LOL" and ":-D" Whether or not he thinks it funny is one thing, but the humorous intent is not in question, nor will anyone but Tinkernhootowl think that I was making a serious criticism of JF. Your comment was taken as it was intended. However, it appears to me that *both* of you have buttons that when barely tickled result in a strong reaction. It's perfectly okay for one of you to post something without the other reacting to it. Says you! Asshole!* snip * again, kidding I see snip I see you didn't consider John's advice! To be honest, while I thought the "you're an old guy" crack to be a good natured poke I took the "Says you! Asshole*" remark in a different light. While I imagine some people might be offended by the "old guy" remark I saw it as a good natured dig, and would have seen it the same way without a winking smiley face. In other words, the fact that one comment had a smiley face and the other a "kidding" is irrelevant. I tend to ignore emoticons and instead look the intent in which a comment appears to be given. In the first, it appeared that you were just taking a friendly poke, while the second was a flippant response to avoid a point I was trying to make. I don't know why some people that they can anything at all about someone else and adding a smiley face is supposed to somehow soften the blow. This group needs an enema! Super-charged at that! If I were similarly arse-puckered, I could whine about how your comment was pompous and patronizing, and how you in your reaction just proved that you yourself have a rather sensitive button when hardly tickled. And remind you that it's perfectly OK for someone to make such a post without you having to react to it. But instead I opted for a humorous response. The purpose of an emoticon should not be "too soften the blow" but rather to indicate intent with respect to a text-based communication, as textual phrases utilized without benefit of tonality can be taken in many different ways. But if you suffer perma-puckered-arse-syndrome, it's quite true that a dozen or a hundred smilies are not going to alter a puckered arse reaction. |
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