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Doug Kanter December 13th 05 04:47 PM

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"John H." wrote in message
...
On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 16:18:55 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:22:12 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
m...
On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:33:44 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

Sorta reminds me of what Big Time Christians say about how
non-believers
will be subjected to some sort of horrible fate at some point in the
future.
Armageddon or whatever. Too bad if you happen to be an excellent
person,
but
a Buddhist.


Doug, what is a 'Big Time Christian'? I know of none who say that.
--
John Herring

They're the ones with the biggest mouths, John. And, the ones who are so
eager to "share" their way of life with people who didn't ask for that
"favor".


And you have a quote, somewhere, of one of these 'big mouths' saying
those
who don't believe in his
'religion' are going to some horrible fate?

If so, I doubt if he speaks for the majority of Christians. Are there
extremists? Sure, just like
there are extremist Muslims and Democrats.
--
John Herring


Two acquaintances whose minds were polluted by the same church in
Kentucky.
One from Chicago. And, an entire family of eight from here. All talk about
Armegeddon as if it is real, and well deserved by non-believers. Buddhist?
Too bad. Jew? Oh well.


Are those acquaintances 'Big Time Christians'? I know some of the
Christian denominations are
believers in the 'Armageddon' (a final battle between the forces of good
and evil), but I've not
heard any state that 'non-believers' are going to some horrible fate
thereafter.


I suspect that some people have the good taste to either not believe it, or
not discuss it if they do.


The concept of Armageddon, given the amount of nuclear weapons existent,
doesn't seem so far
fetched. There may be disagreement over who the good and bad guys are. The
way things are shaping
up, it may be extremist Muslims versus everyone else.


Nostradamus wrote something about the last big war beginning in the Middle
East, begun by an enormous fire sent by a bear from the north. Hmmm...maybe
the Russians will finally get fed up with their Muslim problems, and anyone
even remotely connected with those problems.



Doug Kanter December 13th 05 04:50 PM

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...

I don't want to convert anybody. But they should at least assimilate
to our customs if they want to live in a country whose laws and customs
are based on Judeo-Christian principles.

If you were required to address that statement toward people of specific
religions, which would those be?


No specific religion. But I'd primarily address it towards the group of
folks who work so diligently to change the Pledge of Allegiance, change
the words on our currency, and see that the words "Merry Christmas"
aren't spoken out of the mouths of retailers at Christmas time.



The Pledge was not written with the words "under god" in it.
The words "in god we trust" do not belong on our currency.

I don't care if retailers use jesus to sell refrigerators.


Neither do I. They use tits to sell cars (at least the ones that have
nothing else going for them).



Jim Carter December 13th 05 04:53 PM

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"Lord Reginald Smithers" The fastest and most accurate Gun in the World
wrote in message ...
Kevin,

So have atheist, agnostics, Muslims, those belonging to numerous Asian
Religions and to a lesser degree Jews. Maybe we should kill them all and
let God sort it out.


Lord Smithers, I a surprised at your statement. "and to a lesser degree
Jews." ????? What about the more than 5 million Jews murdered by the
Christians during W.W.II?
I would not call that a lesser degree and you should not either.

Jim C.



Jim Carter December 13th 05 04:57 PM

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"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...

I don't want to convert anybody. But they should at least assimilate to

our
customs if they want to live in a country whose laws and customs are based
on Judeo-Christian principles.

Why should they? If you (note that this is "if") went to their country to
live, would you not want to keep your own customs, heritage and principles?
Jim C.



Lord Reginald Smithers December 13th 05 05:05 PM

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Harry has stated that a number of times.


"John H." wrote in message
...
On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:18:29 -0500, "Lord Reginald Smithers" The fastest
and most accurate Gun in
the World wrote:

JohnH,
Harry is of Russian heritage. Some of the worst genocide and mass
executions have been committed by Russians. Hence, Harry is guilty of
genocide.

It is very easy to play this game.



What could *possibly* make you believe Harry is of Russian heritage?
--
John Herring

Hope your Christmas is Spectacular,
and your New Year even Better!




NOYB December 13th 05 05:06 PM

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"Jim Carter" wrote in message
...

"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...

I don't want to convert anybody. But they should at least assimilate to

our
customs if they want to live in a country whose laws and customs are
based
on Judeo-Christian principles.

Why should they? If you (note that this is "if") went to their country
to
live, would you not want to keep your own customs, heritage and
principles?


Of course. But I certainly wouldn't try to change theirs.

For example, if a woman from the US goes to one of the predominantly Muslim
countries, she should respect their custom of dressing modestly outside the
house.




Lord Reginald Smithers December 13th 05 05:08 PM

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JimC,
I was not talking about those who were the victims of mass murder, I was
talking about those who are guilty of mass murder.

The Jews do not have the long illustrious history of committing mass murder
and/or genocide that many other ethnic groups do.


"Jim Carter" wrote in message
.. .

"Lord Reginald Smithers" The fastest and most accurate Gun in the World
wrote in message ...
Kevin,

So have atheist, agnostics, Muslims, those belonging to numerous Asian
Religions and to a lesser degree Jews. Maybe we should kill them all and
let God sort it out.


Lord Smithers, I a surprised at your statement. "and to a lesser degree
Jews." ????? What about the more than 5 million Jews murdered by the
Christians during W.W.II?
I would not call that a lesser degree and you should not either.

Jim C.





Jim Carter December 13th 05 05:12 PM

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"NOYB" wrote in message
ink.net...
Of course. But I certainly wouldn't try to change theirs.
For example, if a woman from the US goes to one of the predominantly

Muslim
countries, she should respect their custom of dressing modestly outside

the
house.

When my daughter was in Saudi Arabia, she wore causal attire when she went
out in public. It was the same type of clothing as she would wear here or
in the USA, when she went shopping.
Jim C.



P Fritz December 13th 05 05:18 PM

OT--Arabic version of Mein Kampf
 

"Jim Carter" wrote in message
.. .

"NOYB" wrote in message
ink.net...
Of course. But I certainly wouldn't try to change theirs.
For example, if a woman from the US goes to one of the predominantly

Muslim
countries, she should respect their custom of dressing modestly outside

the
house.

When my daughter was in Saudi Arabia, she wore causal attire when she went
out in public. It was the same type of clothing as she would wear here

or
in the USA, when she went shopping.
Jim C.



When we were in Egypt, I insisted my daughter (who was eleven at the time)
wear clothes that at least came to her knees when we were out in public.
She protested before we left, but was glad I had insisted
afterward.........after witnessing several incidents where fully veiled
muslim women surrounded a woman wearing "hot pants" or a low cut blouse and
screamed and harassed them till they left.



Lord Reginald Smithers December 13th 05 05:21 PM

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Harry,
I can see why you do not allow your posts to be archived, it is way too easy
to find the inconsistencies in your stories.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
John H. wrote:
On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:18:29 -0500, "Lord Reginald Smithers" The fastest
and most accurate Gun in
the World wrote:

JohnH,
Harry is of Russian heritage. Some of the worst genocide and mass
executions have been committed by Russians. Hence, Harry is guilty of
genocide.

It is very easy to play this game.



What could *possibly* make you believe Harry is of Russian heritage? --
John Herring

Hope your Christmas is Spectacular,
and your New Year even Better!



It's just another Smithers' lie. I was born in Connecticut, my mother was
born in Massachusetts and my father was born in Pennsylvania. I was reared
in Connecticut. If you want to call me a "Yankee," or a "Yankee-American,"
that would be appropriate.

One member of my family has some ancestors who arrived on these shores
from Great Britain, Ireland, and Germany in the 1700s and 1800s, while
other ancestors were already here - they were Native Americans, as it
were. And since the Native Americans supposed came across the Bering
Straits, why that makes that relative of Russian heritage, I suppose.

There's no doubt about Smithers' heritage, of course. He's purebred
Assho*e American.



--
20 January 2009: The End of an Error.




Lord Reginald Smithers December 13th 05 05:25 PM

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Harry,

My only question is were you lying today or were you lying on July 20,2002
when you said:
Harry Krause wrote:



My heritage? You mean my Russian-Polish-Ukrainian-and-possibly-German
(the borders moved a lot) grandparents?

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

It's just another Smithers' lie. I was born in Connecticut, my mother was
born in Massachusetts and my father was born in Pennsylvania. I was reared
in Connecticut. If you want to call me a "Yankee," or a "Yankee-American,"
that would be appropriate.

One member of my family has some ancestors who arrived on these shores
from Great Britain, Ireland, and Germany in the 1700s and 1800s, while
other ancestors were already here - they were Native Americans, as it
were. And since the Native Americans supposed came across the Bering
Straits, why that makes that relative of Russian heritage, I suppose.

There's no doubt about Smithers' heritage, of course. He's purebred
Assho*e American.



--
20 January 2009: The End of an Error.




Lord Reginald Smithers December 13th 05 05:27 PM

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Harry,
Do your grandparents know you either made up their family history or now
disavow their family history?

Is it possible that both stories are a lie?

I can see why you don't allow your posts to be archived.


"Lord Reginald Smithers" The fastest and most accurate Gun in the World
wrote in message ...
Harry,

My only question is were you lying today or were you lying on July 20,2002
when you said:
Harry Krause wrote:



My heritage? You mean my Russian-Polish-Ukrainian-and-possibly-German
(the borders moved a lot) grandparents?

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

It's just another Smithers' lie. I was born in Connecticut, my mother was
born in Massachusetts and my father was born in Pennsylvania. I was
reared in Connecticut. If you want to call me a "Yankee," or a
"Yankee-American," that would be appropriate.

One member of my family has some ancestors who arrived on these shores
from Great Britain, Ireland, and Germany in the 1700s and 1800s, while
other ancestors were already here - they were Native Americans, as it
were. And since the Native Americans supposed came across the Bering
Straits, why that makes that relative of Russian heritage, I suppose.

There's no doubt about Smithers' heritage, of course. He's purebred
Assho*e American.



--
20 January 2009: The End of an Error.






Lord Reginald Smithers December 13th 05 05:30 PM

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Harry,
It took me less than 5 secs.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:
Harry,
I can see why you do not allow your posts to be archived, it is way too
easy to find the inconsistencies in your stories.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
John H. wrote:
On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:18:29 -0500, "Lord Reginald Smithers" The
fastest and most accurate Gun in
the World wrote:

JohnH,
Harry is of Russian heritage. Some of the worst genocide and mass
executions have been committed by Russians. Hence, Harry is guilty of
genocide.

It is very easy to play this game.


What could *possibly* make you believe Harry is of Russian heritage? --
John Herring

Hope your Christmas is Spectacular,
and your New Year even Better!

It's just another Smithers' lie. I was born in Connecticut, my mother
was born in Massachusetts and my father was born in Pennsylvania. I was
reared in Connecticut. If you want to call me a "Yankee," or a
"Yankee-American," that would be appropriate.

One member of my family has some ancestors who arrived on these shores
from Great Britain, Ireland, and Germany in the 1700s and 1800s, while
other ancestors were already here - they were Native Americans, as it
were. And since the Native Americans supposed came across the Bering
Straits, why that makes that relative of Russian heritage, I suppose.

There's no doubt about Smithers' heritage, of course. He's purebred
Assho*e American.



--
20 January 2009: The End of an Error.





I wonder how much of his day Obsesses Smithers will take up trying to
prove that:

I was not born in Connecticut.
My mother was not born in Boston.
My father was not born in Philly.
I was not reared in Connecticut.
My "heritage" is therefore *not* Yankee.

Or perhaps he wants to prove his heritage is *not* Assho*e American.






--
Alternative energy: New locations to drill for gas and oil.




[email protected] December 13th 05 05:39 PM

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P Fritz wrote:
"Jim Carter" wrote in message
.. .

"NOYB" wrote in message
ink.net...
Of course. But I certainly wouldn't try to change theirs.
For example, if a woman from the US goes to one of the predominantly

Muslim
countries, she should respect their custom of dressing modestly outside

the
house.

When my daughter was in Saudi Arabia, she wore causal attire when she went
out in public. It was the same type of clothing as she would wear here

or
in the USA, when she went shopping.
Jim C.



When we were in Egypt, I insisted my daughter (who was eleven at the time)
wear clothes that at least came to her knees when we were out in public.
She protested before we left, but was glad I had insisted
afterward.........after witnessing several incidents where fully veiled
muslim women surrounded a woman wearing "hot pants" or a low cut blouse and
screamed and harassed them till they left.


Yeah...sure....


[email protected] December 13th 05 05:41 PM

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P Fritz wrote:
"Jim Carter" wrote in message
.. .

"NOYB" wrote in message
ink.net...
Of course. But I certainly wouldn't try to change theirs.
For example, if a woman from the US goes to one of the predominantly

Muslim
countries, she should respect their custom of dressing modestly outside

the
house.

When my daughter was in Saudi Arabia, she wore causal attire when she went
out in public. It was the same type of clothing as she would wear here

or
in the USA, when she went shopping.
Jim C.



When we were in Egypt, I insisted my daughter (who was eleven at the time)
wear clothes that at least came to her knees when we were out in public.
She protested before we left, but was glad I had insisted
afterward.........after witnessing several incidents where fully veiled
muslim women surrounded a woman wearing "hot pants" or a low cut blouse and
screamed and harassed them till they left.


Yeah.....sure....Egypt, NY maybe....


John H. December 13th 05 05:47 PM

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On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:25:24 -0500, "Lord Reginald Smithers" The fastest and most accurate Gun in
the World wrote:

Harry,

My only question is were you lying today or were you lying on July 20,2002
when you said:
Harry Krause wrote:



My heritage? You mean my Russian-Polish-Ukrainian-and-possibly-German
(the borders moved a lot) grandparents?

Harry, is that an example of 'snarkiness'?
--
John Herring

Hope your Christmas is Spectacular,
and your New Year even Better!

Lord Reginald Smithers December 13th 05 05:48 PM

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Harry,
You mentioned your "Russian" heritage many times in the past. I am just
curious why you proud of your grandparents heritage at one time, and today
you are not.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:
Harry,

My only question is were you lying today or were you lying on July
20,2002 when you said:
Harry Krause wrote:



My heritage? You mean my Russian-Polish-Ukrainian-and-possibly-German
(the borders moved a lot) grandparents?

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
It's just another Smithers' lie. I was born in Connecticut, my mother
was born in Massachusetts and my father was born in Pennsylvania. I was
reared in Connecticut. If you want to call me a "Yankee," or a
"Yankee-American," that would be appropriate.

One member of my family has some ancestors who arrived on these shores
from Great Britain, Ireland, and Germany in the 1700s and 1800s, while
other ancestors were already here - they were Native Americans, as it
were. And since the Native Americans supposed came across the Bering
Straits, why that makes that relative of Russian heritage, I suppose.

There's no doubt about Smithers' heritage, of course. He's purebred
Assho*e American.



--
20 January 2009: The End of an Error.




My, my....Smitherscum certainly is a busy little obsessed asshole, eh?

So, three years ago, someone asked about my "heritage," and I responded
with sarcasm four of the possible countries of origin of my grandparents,
and Smithers thinks "Russian" is my heritage, even though I am
second-generation American, of parents born in the United States?

Well, that means my relative whose ancestors came from Great Britain,
Ireland, and Germany, and who is part Cherokee must also have Russian
heritage because of the Bering Straits connection.

What an ass Smithers is. Purebred American Assho*e.


--
Free markets: Halliburton no-bid contracts at taxpayer expense.






JimH December 13th 05 05:54 PM

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:
Harry,

My only question is were you lying today or were you lying on July
20,2002 when you said:
Harry Krause wrote:



My heritage? You mean my Russian-Polish-Ukrainian-and-possibly-German
(the borders moved a lot) grandparents?

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
It's just another Smithers' lie. I was born in Connecticut, my mother
was born in Massachusetts and my father was born in Pennsylvania. I was
reared in Connecticut. If you want to call me a "Yankee," or a
"Yankee-American," that would be appropriate.

One member of my family has some ancestors who arrived on these shores
from Great Britain, Ireland, and Germany in the 1700s and 1800s, while
other ancestors were already here - they were Native Americans, as it
were. And since the Native Americans supposed came across the Bering
Straits, why that makes that relative of Russian heritage, I suppose.

There's no doubt about Smithers' heritage, of course. He's purebred
Assho*e American.



--
20 January 2009: The End of an Error.




My, my....Smitherscum certainly is a busy little obsessed asshole, eh?

So, three years ago, someone asked about my "heritage," and I responded
with sarcasm four of the possible countries of origin of my grandparents,
and Smithers thinks "Russian" is my heritage, even though I am
second-generation American, of parents born in the United States?

Well, that means my relative whose ancestors came from Great Britain,
Ireland, and Germany, and who is part Cherokee must also have Russian
heritage because of the Bering Straits connection.



Unfrickenbelievable. What a gem you are Harry.



P Fritz December 13th 05 05:59 PM

OT--Arabic version of Mein Kampf
 

" JimH" wrote in message
...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:
Harry,

My only question is were you lying today or were you lying on July
20,2002 when you said:
Harry Krause wrote:


My heritage? You mean my Russian-Polish-Ukrainian-and-possibly-German
(the borders moved a lot) grandparents?

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
It's just another Smithers' lie. I was born in Connecticut, my mother
was born in Massachusetts and my father was born in Pennsylvania. I

was
reared in Connecticut. If you want to call me a "Yankee," or a
"Yankee-American," that would be appropriate.

One member of my family has some ancestors who arrived on these shores
from Great Britain, Ireland, and Germany in the 1700s and 1800s, while
other ancestors were already here - they were Native Americans, as it
were. And since the Native Americans supposed came across the Bering
Straits, why that makes that relative of Russian heritage, I suppose.

There's no doubt about Smithers' heritage, of course. He's purebred
Assho*e American.



--
20 January 2009: The End of an Error.




My, my....Smitherscum certainly is a busy little obsessed asshole, eh?

So, three years ago, someone asked about my "heritage," and I responded
with sarcasm four of the possible countries of origin of my

grandparents,
and Smithers thinks "Russian" is my heritage, even though I am
second-generation American, of parents born in the United States?

Well, that means my relative whose ancestors came from Great Britain,
Ireland, and Germany, and who is part Cherokee must also have Russian
heritage because of the Bering Straits connection.



Unfrickenbelievable. What a gem you are Harry.


Not really, when you consider..............
"Narcissists are grandiose. They live in an artificial self invented from
fantasies of absolute or perfect power, genius, beauty, etc. Normal people's
fantasies of themselves, their wishful thinking, take the form of stories --
these stories often come from movies or TV, or from things they've read or
that were read to them as children. They involve a plot, heroic activity or
great accomplishments or adventu normal people see themselves in action,
however preposterous or even impossible that action may be -- they see
themselves doing things that earn them honor, glory, love, riches, fame, and
they see these fantasy selves as personal potentials, however tenuous"

"Narcissists' fantasies are tableaux or scenes, stage sets; narcissists
are hung up on a particular picture that they think reflects their true
selves (as opposed to the real self -- warts and all). Narcissists don't see
themselves doing anything except being adored, and they don't see anyone
else doing anything except adoring them. Moreover, they don't see these
images as potentials that they may some day be able to live out, if they get
lucky or everything goes right: they see these pictures as the real way they
want to be seen right now (which is not the same as saying they think these
pictures are the way they really are right now, but that is another story to
be discussed elsewhere). Sometimes narcissistic fantasies are spectacularly
grandiose -- imagining themselves as Jesus or a saint or hero or deity
depicted in art -- but just as often the fantasies of narcissists are
mediocre and vulgar, concocted from illustrations in popular magazines,
sensational novels, comic books even. These artificial self fantasies are
also static in time, going back unchanged to early adolescence or even to
childhood; the narcissists' self-images don't change with time, so that you
will find, for instance, female narcissists clinging to retro styles, still
living the picture of the perfect woman of 1945 or 1965 as depicted in The
Ladies' Home Journal or Seventeen or Vogue of that era, and male narcissists
still hung up on images of comic-book or ripping adventure heroes from their
youth. Though narcissists like pictures rather than stories, they like still
pictures, not moving ones, so they don't base their fantasies on movies or
TV."






NOYB December 13th 05 06:02 PM

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"Jim Carter" wrote in message
.. .

"NOYB" wrote in message
ink.net...
Of course. But I certainly wouldn't try to change theirs.
For example, if a woman from the US goes to one of the predominantly

Muslim
countries, she should respect their custom of dressing modestly outside

the
house.

When my daughter was in Saudi Arabia, she wore causal attire when she went
out in public. It was the same type of clothing as she would wear here
or
in the USA, when she went shopping.


Did she ever go for a swim in a public pool? What'd she wear?



John H. December 13th 05 06:06 PM

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On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:43:53 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:

Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:
Harry,

My only question is were you lying today or were you lying on July 20,2002
when you said:
Harry Krause wrote:



My heritage? You mean my Russian-Polish-Ukrainian-and-possibly-German
(the borders moved a lot) grandparents?

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
It's just another Smithers' lie. I was born in Connecticut, my mother was
born in Massachusetts and my father was born in Pennsylvania. I was reared
in Connecticut. If you want to call me a "Yankee," or a "Yankee-American,"
that would be appropriate.

One member of my family has some ancestors who arrived on these shores
from Great Britain, Ireland, and Germany in the 1700s and 1800s, while
other ancestors were already here - they were Native Americans, as it
were. And since the Native Americans supposed came across the Bering
Straits, why that makes that relative of Russian heritage, I suppose.

There's no doubt about Smithers' heritage, of course. He's purebred
Assho*e American.



--
20 January 2009: The End of an Error.




My, my....Smitherscum certainly is a busy little obsessed asshole, eh?

So, three years ago, someone asked about my "heritage," and I responded
with sarcasm four of the possible countries of origin of my
grandparents, and Smithers thinks "Russian" is my heritage, even though
I am second-generation American, of parents born in the United States?

Well, that means my relative whose ancestors came from Great Britain,
Ireland, and Germany, and who is part Cherokee must also have Russian
heritage because of the Bering Straits connection.

What an ass Smithers is. Purebred American Assho*e.


Harry, should the calling of names like 'asshole' be added to the list of bad behaviors?
--
John Herring

Hope your Christmas is Spectacular!
....and your New Year even Better!

JimH December 13th 05 06:11 PM

OT--Arabic version of Mein Kampf
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
John H. wrote:
On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:25:24 -0500, "Lord Reginald Smithers" The fastest
and most accurate Gun in
the World wrote:

Harry,

My only question is were you lying today or were you lying on July
20,2002 when you said:
Harry Krause wrote:

My heritage? You mean my Russian-Polish-Ukrainian-and-possibly-German
(the borders moved a lot) grandparents?

Harry, is that an example of 'snarkiness'?
--
John Herring




If it makes you happy, go for it.

BTW, there apparently are more countries to consider. According to my
cousin, her dad (my uncle) also said we had ancestors who came here from
Romania and somewhere in the Austria-Hungary Empire.

Now, whether all those ancestors were born in all those countries, I just
don't know and don't care. I don't consider myself a "hyphenated
American," and neither did my parents, who also were born here.

These answers, though, apparently are important to Smitherscum, who seems
to relish his role as newsgroup proctologist.




--



The spinmeister!



Lord Reginald Smithers December 13th 05 06:15 PM

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Harry,

You have to understand, I really do not care where your family came from.
You were using the historical record of Christians who committed genocide as
proof of the dangers of Christianity and the probability that Christians
will commit genocide in the future.

I was using your often repeated Russian Heritage, as a example where
someone's heritage does not necessary reflect their beliefs IE - Just
because some Russians have been guilty of genocide and have killed millions,
it does not make everyone of Russian heritage likely to commit genocide.

You made the Russian Heritage an issue when you said I lied about your
Russian Heritage. I did not lie, you might have, but I didn't.

It is obvious why you do not allow your posts to be archived.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
John H. wrote:
On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:25:24 -0500, "Lord Reginald Smithers" The fastest
and most accurate Gun in
the World wrote:

Harry,

My only question is were you lying today or were you lying on July
20,2002 when you said:
Harry Krause wrote:

My heritage? You mean my Russian-Polish-Ukrainian-and-possibly-German
(the borders moved a lot) grandparents?

Harry, is that an example of 'snarkiness'?
--
John Herring




If it makes you happy, go for it.

BTW, there apparently are more countries to consider. According to my
cousin, her dad (my uncle) also said we had ancestors who came here from
Romania and somewhere in the Austria-Hungary Empire.

Now, whether all those ancestors were born in all those countries, I just
don't know and don't care. I don't consider myself a "hyphenated
American," and neither did my parents, who also were born here.

These answers, though, apparently are important to Smitherscum, who seems
to relish his role as newsgroup proctologist.




--
DeLay, Tom: Past tense of De Lie.




JimH December 13th 05 06:35 PM

OT--Arabic version of Mein Kampf
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:
Harry,

You made the Russian Heritage an issue when you said I lied about your
Russian Heritage. I did not lie, you might have, but I didn't.


I have lots of dead ancestors who were Europeans, and a tiny number of
that total were Russian. I don't recognize that as having "Russian
heritage," especially since I was born here, my parents were born here,
and the only "heritage" I know from my youth is pure American. My father
was graduated from a college in Pennsylvania, was a Mason, played in the
mummers, worked for his uncle for a while in a multi-store retail
business, opened a machine shop, and after WW II, became a boat dealer.
That's all part of his
Pennsylvania-Russian-German-Polish-Romanian-whatever heritage, eh?

--



We should all save this to show our children what can happen when they get
caught in a lie and how the hole gets deeper when they try to explain their
way out of it.

I guess Harry's parents never told him about the consequences of lying.



John H. December 13th 05 06:37 PM

OT--Arabic version of Mein Kampf
 
On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 13:04:52 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:25:24 -0500, "Lord Reginald Smithers" The fastest and most accurate Gun in
the World wrote:

Harry,

My only question is were you lying today or were you lying on July 20,2002
when you said:
Harry Krause wrote:

My heritage? You mean my Russian-Polish-Ukrainian-and-possibly-German
(the borders moved a lot) grandparents?

Harry, is that an example of 'snarkiness'?
--
John Herring




If it makes you happy, go for it.

If *what* makes me happy?


BTW, there apparently are more countries to consider. According to my
cousin, her dad (my uncle) also said we had ancestors who came here from
Romania and somewhere in the Austria-Hungary Empire.

I wasn't concerned.


Now, whether all those ancestors were born in all those countries, I
just don't know and don't care. I don't consider myself a "hyphenated
American," and neither did my parents, who also were born here.

Again, I wasn't concerned with all this information.


These answers, though, apparently are important to Smitherscum, who
seems to relish his role as newsgroup proctologist.


Why not just tell Smithers?

Again, should name-calling be on the list of bad behaviors? And, just what is 'snarkiness', or is
the definition provided by Smithers a good one?
--
John Herring

Hope your Christmas is Spectacular!
....and your New Year even Better!

Lord Reginald Smithers December 13th 05 06:38 PM

OT--Arabic version of Mein Kampf
 
Harry,
Did you miss my point again? Try reading for content.

I am curious, why did you make your Russian heritage, including tales about
how the immigration officer changed your grandfathers last name when he came
to the US if it is not important to you?


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:
Harry,

You made the Russian Heritage an issue when you said I lied about your
Russian Heritage. I did not lie, you might have, but I didn't.


I have lots of dead ancestors who were Europeans, and a tiny number of
that total were Russian. I don't recognize that as having "Russian
heritage," especially since I was born here, my parents were born here,
and the only "heritage" I know from my youth is pure American. My father
was graduated from a college in Pennsylvania, was a Mason, played in the
mummers, worked for his uncle for a while in a multi-store retail
business, opened a machine shop, and after WW II, became a boat dealer.
That's all part of his
Pennsylvania-Russian-German-Polish-Romanian-whatever heritage, eh?

--
Bush's One Success: No More Pesky Surplus.




Skipper December 13th 05 07:52 PM

OT--Arabic version of Mein Kampf
 
Harry Krause wrote:

I am curious, why did you make your Russian heritage, including tales about
how the immigration officer changed your grandfathers last name when he came
to the US if it is not important to you?


It isn't important to me. It's just an anecdote my grandfather told me.
It wasn't important to him, either. He was glad to be here and
considered himself an American, not a hyphenated American.


Isn't an anti-American a hyphenated American, Krause?

--
Skipper

[email protected] December 13th 05 09:35 PM

OT--Arabic version of Mein Kampf
 

JimH wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:
Harry,

You made the Russian Heritage an issue when you said I lied about your
Russian Heritage. I did not lie, you might have, but I didn't.


I have lots of dead ancestors who were Europeans, and a tiny number of
that total were Russian. I don't recognize that as having "Russian
heritage," especially since I was born here, my parents were born here,
and the only "heritage" I know from my youth is pure American. My father
was graduated from a college in Pennsylvania, was a Mason, played in the
mummers, worked for his uncle for a while in a multi-store retail
business, opened a machine shop, and after WW II, became a boat dealer.
That's all part of his
Pennsylvania-Russian-German-Polish-Romanian-whatever heritage, eh?

--



We should all save this to show our children what can happen when they get
caught in a lie and how the hole gets deeper when they try to explain their
way out of it.

I guess Harry's parents never told him about the consequences of lying.


How about your parents, Reverend Jim? Did they ever tell YOU about the
consequences of lying? If so, why do you continue to do it?


JimH December 13th 05 09:44 PM

OT--Arabic version of Mein Kampf
 

wrote in message
oups.com...

JimH wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:
Harry,

You made the Russian Heritage an issue when you said I lied about your
Russian Heritage. I did not lie, you might have, but I didn't.


I have lots of dead ancestors who were Europeans, and a tiny number of
that total were Russian. I don't recognize that as having "Russian
heritage," especially since I was born here, my parents were born here,
and the only "heritage" I know from my youth is pure American. My
father
was graduated from a college in Pennsylvania, was a Mason, played in
the
mummers, worked for his uncle for a while in a multi-store retail
business, opened a machine shop, and after WW II, became a boat dealer.
That's all part of his
Pennsylvania-Russian-German-Polish-Romanian-whatever heritage, eh?

--



We should all save this to show our children what can happen when they
get
caught in a lie and how the hole gets deeper when they try to explain
their
way out of it.

I guess Harry's parents never told him about the consequences of lying.


How about your parents, Reverend Jim? Did they ever tell YOU about the
consequences of lying? If so, why do you continue to do it?


*Your* contributions to this NG (sorry but I did not update it for today):

(are you proud of this?)

12-12-05

Grow up, you ****ing baby.



.... idiot.



Too poor of a ****bag to live up to your word?



... dip****.



idiot.







12-9-05

Idiot.



You must be dumber than a post.



None of your ****ing business, how's that?



You idiot,



Uh, perhaps because *I* didn't make the statement, dumb ass.



If you are dumb enough to ask a question like that, an answer would
escape your grasp.



IT's a REPUBLICAN law, in the STATE OF FLORIDA, you dip****!!!!



You actually have the audacity to criticize others here, when you in fact,
are the
lowest piece of **** here.



I've known some nasty little assholes in my day, but you take the cake.



Okay, you notice I specifically asked Bill, but alas, everyone here
knows about your inability to comprehend anything.





12-8-05

Are you SO ****ing dumb that you can't figure out one simple, little
thing?



I'm not Kevin, you low life liar.



I'm not Kevin, you dolt.



Crap, I knew you wouldn't be bright enough to figure it out!



Unless, of course you are just posting in ignorance, as usual.



You aren't very bright are you?



What an ignorant low life piece fo crap you are. You've been proven as
such right here in this thread.



I'm not Kevin, but you are dumb as a post:



Grow up, you brainless little **** stain.



BUT, you are so stupid, you don't understand that by REPLYING TO ME, you
are, indeed, doing those things TO ME.





12-7-05

By the way, when are YOU going to stop the personal insults?



Are you REALLY that stupid??



I'm not Kevin, idiot.



Then grow up, and quit trying to follow in JimH's and John and Fritz's
footsteps as "I can do it, but if you do, you're evil" bull****.



I'm not Kevin, you dip****.



Why is it that you chastise some people for insults, when YOU insult?



All of them, but I think you have to come to terms with your liquor
demons first.



Dislexics of the world, untie! (I just had to throw this one in.)



I'm not Kevin, you dolt.



According to one of your circle jerk buddies, Smithers, you must obtain
direct
permission from the author. Or is that just another of the examples of
you and your circle jerk club don't have to, but the ones you don't
agree with must?? Pretty childish, wouldn't you say?



No, you idiot, those assumptions were made by ME



You're easily amused. Smithers lies, then you eat it like a kid eating
a bugger.



Get off your high horse. You're starting to act like a pesky
little gnat. Nothing to worry about, but just a bother.



Don't cry, John....your whining is pathetic. Go have another drink.



12-6-05

You must be one lousy chess player to make an ignorant statement like
that!



I know that your comrehension and over all understanding of a thread is
hard what with your excessive alcohol abuse and all, but please, try to
stay with the topic.



You are acting like a silly little kid.



It is, this group's reasons, however ARE stupid, ignorant, hate filled
and prejudice.



Now again, I posed a question just EXACTLY like you
and Fritz, and you went off the freakin' meter!!! But, you seem to
think it's acceptable for you and Fritz to do EXACTLY the same thing.
How is this?



Are you going to explain why when you demean and denigrate others, it's
okay, but when someone not in your circle jerk club do it, it's bad?



I'm not Kevin you idiot.





12-5-05 (Kevin behaved today).

Sorry, John, you're still an idiot





12-2-05

How's THAT for a childish buffoon!!



Old Jim doesn't even
realize what an idiot he's being!!



Jim's like that, it's just more of his childish antics. I think I've
solved it. He is a child messing with his parent's computer. It makes
sense. The moped, his childish actions here, his holier-than-thou
attitude, his petty name calling and lies.......



No, let me explain it to YOU, asshole. I"m not Kevin.



Care to answer that, you little twerp?



I'm not Kevin, little boy (or girl?) Now, I know that you're still in
grade school, but if you want to play here, please learn to read.



Notice that your circle jerk buddy didn't ask what new features there
were, etc.



Why is it that you can't act like an adult? Come to think of it, the moped
thing
makes sense. As does your spineless back down when I offered to meet
you last summer. You're actually a kid trying to act grown up on
mommy's computer, aren't you?



Fritz, I"m glad that you've realized your problem, and good luck with
your recovery.



But, funny thing is, all of the chastising
he does, it's quite all right if one of his circle jerk members, or he
does it.



As do you and the rest of your circle jerk club, especially JimH, the
child/man



11-29-05 to 21-2-05
What else have you "contributed" to this newsgroup besides insults and lies?

Congratulations, you've proven yourself a bigger asshole than most expected.
What a ****y little twit you are.

you idiot.

Just another example of the Republicans being the *Pigs at the Trough
Party*!

you idiot.

Hmm, this from a person who constantly whines about others cut and
pasting......

you idiot.

your still acting like a spoiled little child.

See, you're very good at proving yourself a childish idiot!!!

you idiot.

Well, are you going to answer, idiot?

Uh, before you start that drivel, you'd be best to do some checking, or else
you'll make yourself look REALLY dumb!

you idiot.

Damn you are a simpleton aren't you?

you childish little twit.

You see, anyone with any brains that was trying to act childish like you,
would ask the question in a manner that wouldn't implicate them.

you idiot.

I love it when you act so stupid!!

What a dolt!

Grow up. I mean, you are so childish

you idiot.

I'll try to dumb it down even more for you.

I know you're not too bright, and thus don't understand things well

YOU, you dumb idiot

God DAMN!!!!! How ****ing stupid are you?

you idiot.

Oh, please, do tell the group! OR, is it that you are posting ignorantly?

you idiot.

I take it you don't comprehend well, huh?

I don't you idiot.

I don't understand how someone can be as stupid as you seem to be.

you idiot.

you are useless as ahuman being.

if you keep THAT **** up, next time I'm in Cleveland, I'll look you up no
matter what little pussy excuse
you'll come up with.

**** you.

What a spineless little asshole you are.

you idiot.

you dumb ****.

Do it, or are you scared that you'll find out just how stupid you are, and
how childish you sound?

=======



Lord Reginald Smithers December 13th 05 10:16 PM

OT--Arabic version of Mein Kampf
 
Harry,
So when you grandfather landed on the shores of the US he immediately gave
up his Eastern European heritage. How strange. Most don't. I know my
grandparents didn't.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:
Harry,
Did you miss my point again? Try reading for content.

I am curious, why did you make your Russian heritage, including tales
about how the immigration officer changed your grandfathers last name
when he came to the US if it is not important to you?


It isn't important to me. It's just an anecdote my grandfather told me. It
wasn't important to him, either. He was glad to be here and considered
himself an American, not a hyphenated American.



--
Alternative energy: New locations to drill for gas and oil.




P Fritz December 13th 05 10:21 PM

OT--Arabic version of Mein Kampf
 
Maybe harry's ancestors also suffered from NPD, and were ashamed of where
they came from

"Lord Reginald Smithers" The fastest and most accurate Gun in the World
wrote in message ...
Harry,
So when you grandfather landed on the shores of the US he immediately gave
up his Eastern European heritage. How strange. Most don't. I know my
grandparents didn't.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:
Harry,
Did you miss my point again? Try reading for content.

I am curious, why did you make your Russian heritage, including tales
about how the immigration officer changed your grandfathers last name
when he came to the US if it is not important to you?


It isn't important to me. It's just an anecdote my grandfather told me.

It
wasn't important to him, either. He was glad to be here and considered
himself an American, not a hyphenated American.



--
Alternative energy: New locations to drill for gas and oil.






John H. December 14th 05 12:12 AM

OT--Arabic version of Mein Kampf
 
Uh, Harry, you're repeating yourself.

Smithers asked, "What would you like to know?"

You presented a list of information you wanted from him. He said he'd reply by email. He did.


On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 18:50:09 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:

Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:
Harry,
So when you grandfather landed on the shores of the US he immediately gave
up his Eastern European heritage. How strange. Most don't. I know my
grandparents didn't.

You're a lying coward, Smithers.
In several recent postings here, "Smithers" volunteered to answer some
questions:
To wit:

Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:

What would you like to know?

To which I responded:

Your real name
The email account your ISP assigned you
The metro area in which you live
Your age
What you do for a living (where you work is no one's business)
Your wife's name
The brand, style and model of boat you have, and other boats you have
owned
Where you boat
How you identified yourself here prior to the endless series of "made-up"
names you've been using

And a personal family history, with interesting anecdotal information,
of at least 500 words.

Oh, verifiable information, of course. We'll see how the comparison
matches up.

I did not ask for his street address, the name of his employer, his
telephone number,
et cetera.


Smithers responded:

Harry,
I will reply via email.

Here's the email Smithers sent:

"Harry,

It is nice to see you have a long list of questions.

Before I answer your questions, please provide me with an answer to the
following questions.

1. What is your home address.
2. What is your home telephone.
3. Why did you find it necessary to make up details concerning your
wife's education and where you obtained your degree from?
4. Were your parents too strict when you were growing up? Did you feel
loved as a child?

I look forward to your answer.

Joe"


I actually won a minor bet over Smithers' response. Another poster
emailed me that Smithers sounded "sincere," and I bet him that all that
would be forthcoming was more Smithersh*t. I won. The bet: a brand-new,
$5 or less fishing lure.

And, as I have stated previously, Smithers is a coward. Still.













--


--
John Herring

Hope your Christmas is Spectacular!
....and your New Year even Better!

Don White December 14th 05 12:13 AM

OT--Arabic version of Mein Kampf
 
Skipper wrote:



Isn't an anti-American a hyphenated American, Krause?

--
Skipper


How about non-boater Snippy?
Looks like you are a 'hyphenated' whatever yourself.

JimH December 14th 05 12:23 AM

OT--Arabic version of Mein Kampf
 

"John H." wrote in message
...
Uh, Harry, you're repeating yourself.

Smithers asked, "What would you like to know?"

You presented a list of information you wanted from him. He said he'd
reply by email. He did.



No he didn't.

Sorry John, but Smithers made an offer that he is backing out of. Both of
you are now hanging by a thread based on some wording in the original posts
that can be easily misunderstood.

May I remind you of my book offer? I made a mistake on the wording of the
offer yet I ended up living up to my original promise. If I recall you
called me on the carpet for my original reluctance to accept a PO address.
A fine line indeed yet I honored my original offer.

You can't have it both ways John.



Lord Reginald Smithers December 14th 05 12:36 AM

OT--Arabic version of Mein Kampf
 
Harry,
Your NPD is showing. When did you become arbitrator of what personal
information is to be shared in rec.boats? You asked question, I decided I
wouldn't answer your questions until you answered mine.

We have seen what you do with personal information. Ask JimH or JohnH what
you have done with their personal information.

Harry, you are so obsessed with me, it is fun watching you squirm trying to
find out anything you can.




"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:
Harry,
So when you grandfather landed on the shores of the US he immediately
gave up his Eastern European heritage. How strange. Most don't. I know
my grandparents didn't.

You're a lying coward, Smithers.
In several recent postings here, "Smithers" volunteered to answer some
questions:
To wit:

Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:

What would you like to know?

To which I responded:

Your real name
The email account your ISP assigned you
The metro area in which you live
Your age
What you do for a living (where you work is no one's business)
Your wife's name
The brand, style and model of boat you have, and other boats you have
owned
Where you boat
How you identified yourself here prior to the endless series of "made-up"
names you've been using

And a personal family history, with interesting anecdotal information,
of at least 500 words.

Oh, verifiable information, of course. We'll see how the comparison
matches up.

I did not ask for his street address, the name of his employer, his
telephone number,
et cetera.


Smithers responded:

Harry,
I will reply via email.

Here's the email Smithers sent:

"Harry,

It is nice to see you have a long list of questions.

Before I answer your questions, please provide me with an answer to the
following questions.

1. What is your home address.
2. What is your home telephone.
3. Why did you find it necessary to make up details concerning your
wife's education and where you obtained your degree from?
4. Were your parents too strict when you were growing up? Did you feel
loved as a child?

I look forward to your answer.

Joe"


I actually won a minor bet over Smithers' response. Another poster
emailed me that Smithers sounded "sincere," and I bet him that all that
would be forthcoming was more Smithersh*t. I won. The bet: a brand-new,
$5 or less fishing lure.

And, as I have stated previously, Smithers is a coward. Still.













--


--
/bush




Lord Reginald Smithers December 14th 05 12:41 AM

OT--Arabic version of Mein Kampf
 
JimH,
As someone who has been on the receiving end of Harry abusing personal
information, I would think you would encourage others to follow the advice
of internet security experts.

What offer did I make? Do you or anyone think I would answer any and all
questions Harry asked? The fact that I said "What do you want to know" does
not mean I would answer the question. I said I would reply. I did reply
via email. It does not mean I would reply the way Harry wanted.

The purpose of my replying via email, was to show people that Harry does not
keep any personal information private. Anyone who gives Harry ANY PERSONAL
info is a fool.

Harry very quickly showed what he does with personal info.

You of all people should know that.




" JimH" wrote in message
...

"John H." wrote in message
...
Uh, Harry, you're repeating yourself.

Smithers asked, "What would you like to know?"

You presented a list of information you wanted from him. He said he'd
reply by email. He did.



No he didn't.

Sorry John, but Smithers made an offer that he is backing out of. Both
of you are now hanging by a thread based on some wording in the original
posts that can be easily misunderstood.

May I remind you of my book offer? I made a mistake on the wording of the
offer yet I ended up living up to my original promise. If I recall you
called me on the carpet for my original reluctance to accept a PO address.
A fine line indeed yet I honored my original offer.

You can't have it both ways John.




Bert Robbins December 14th 05 12:55 AM

OT--Arabic version of Mein Kampf
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:
JimH,
As someone who has been on the receiving end of Harry abusing personal
information, I would think you would encourage others to follow the
advice of internet security experts.


Smithers is a cowardly, lying, weaseling assho*le, *exactly* as I have
been stating here for a long, long time, and his latest rationalization
isn't working, except, perhaps, on his fellow weasels.


Harry, you were made to look the fool and you are unhappy about it.

Stop crying it is sad to watch.



John H. December 14th 05 01:06 AM

OT--Arabic version of Mein Kampf
 
On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:23:36 -0500, " JimH" wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .
Uh, Harry, you're repeating yourself.

Smithers asked, "What would you like to know?"

You presented a list of information you wanted from him. He said he'd
reply by email. He did.



No he didn't.

Sorry John, but Smithers made an offer that he is backing out of. Both of
you are now hanging by a thread based on some wording in the original posts
that can be easily misunderstood.

May I remind you of my book offer? I made a mistake on the wording of the
offer yet I ended up living up to my original promise. If I recall you
called me on the carpet for my original reluctance to accept a PO address.
A fine line indeed yet I honored my original offer.

You can't have it both ways John.


Don't want it both ways. You said what you said, he said what he said. Show me where he said he
would *answer* any questions. Do that, and I'll agree with you.

Do you *really* think Smithers just 'made a mistake' in his wording?
--
John Herring

Hope your Christmas is Spectacular!
....and your New Year even Better!

John H. December 14th 05 01:08 AM

OT--Arabic version of Mein Kampf
 
On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:46:09 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:

Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:
JimH,
As someone who has been on the receiving end of Harry abusing personal
information, I would think you would encourage others to follow the advice
of internet security experts.


Smithers is a cowardly, lying, weaseling assho*le, *exactly* as I have
been stating here for a long, long time, and his latest rationalization
isn't working, except, perhaps, on his fellow weasels.


Easily cleared up, Harry. Show us where Smithers said he would *answer* your questions or provide
you any information.

You took his bait, and you're fighting like a blue fish on a wire leader.
--
John Herring

Hope your Christmas is Spectacular!
....and your New Year even Better!

John H. December 14th 05 01:10 AM

OT--Arabic version of Mein Kampf
 
On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:44:42 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:

Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:
Harry,
Your NPD is showing.




Smithers is a cowardly, lying, weaseling assho*le, *exactly* as I have
been stating here
for a long, long time, and his latest rationalization isn't working,
except, perhaps, on his fellow weasels.


Hooked blue fish, wire leader.

Harry, maybe we should add 'trolling' to the list of bad behaviors? But, you have to tell me what
your definition of 'snarkiness' is.
--
John Herring

Hope your Christmas is Spectacular!
....and your New Year even Better!


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