"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:12:12 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 03:24:46 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

What's the most common vehicle?

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Dodge Caravans are right up there with the best (worst).

Tranny problems most likely based on our experience.

I swear to you, I was going to say Dodge/Plymouth, but not the model.

Their engine blocks & pistons are machines to +/- 1/2 inch. Nice & tight.

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 13:48:40 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:36:53 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
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Should we assume the Ford engineers also knew plastic could melt?

Someone did an analysis that showed the plastic would not melt until a
month after the warranty expired. After being hailed as a cost saving
genius, they were promoted into senior management to look for other
similar "opportunities". And so another once great industry slid into
decline...

You laugh - did you know on the newer Ford mid-size cars and smaller
like the Focus, that you can't just remove the brake rotors and turn
them? They have to be replaced? The last time I did the brakes on
the F-250, it was cheaper to buy new rotors rather than have the old
ones turned.

Marketing run amok, my friends. :)

Not so much marketing, as cafe standards. The fuel efficiency of engines
has not increased enough to keep up with the standards, and there is only so
much aerodynamics they can work with, so as a result they lighten the
load....I know several ford engineers (part of our local alumni group) and
they talk about the infights they get into over fractions of ounces for
individual parts, when it is all added up, the weight of the vehicle
decreases, increasing the fuel economy, the down side is, the parts wear
out quicker and break easier which equates to higher repair
costs........damn guvmint.

Tom,

I am not a mechanical engineer, and I don't play one in Usenet, so my
knowledge base is very limited in this matter. The real reason I finally
gave up on all the additives is because I felt that any additive that would
really provide an oil company with a superior product, would be added to
their blend.

The reviews by mechanical engineers have always agreed with this, but that
does not mean Lucas Oil Stabilizer is not the wonder additive, but I would
be concerned about anything that caused my oil to foam up.


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:05:00 -0500, "Lord Reginald Smithers" The
fastest and most accurate Gun in the World wrote:

Do I understand you correctly, in your opinion, Lucas Oil Stabilizer is a
godsend for those using low RPM diesels, but you are not sure of higher
RPM
gas engines.

No, I am saying that my experience with Lucas Oil Stabilizer has been
positive and that I have no personal experience to the contrary. As
to higher RPM engines, perhaps the experimenter has a point, but I'd
have to question the size of the gears, the size of the experiment box
and just how fast those gears were turning. I found it kind of
interesting that the oil didn't climb the gears even without additives
either - so what did that prove?

It's a faulty experiment.

Tom,
I think that is a weight reduction to lower average fuel consumption, or at
least that is what I was told by Firestone.


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 13:48:40 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:36:53 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

Should we assume the Ford engineers also knew plastic could melt?

Someone did an analysis that showed the plastic would not melt until a
month after the warranty expired. After being hailed as a cost saving
genius, they were promoted into senior management to look for other
similar "opportunities". And so another once great industry slid into
decline...

You laugh - did you know on the newer Ford mid-size cars and smaller
like the Focus, that you can't just remove the brake rotors and turn
them? They have to be replaced? The last time I did the brakes on
the F-250, it was cheaper to buy new rotors rather than have the old
ones turned.

Marketing run amok, my friends. :)

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:37:17 -0500, "Lord Reginald Smithers" The
fastest and most accurate Gun in the World wrote:

The reviews by mechanical engineers have always agreed with this, but that
does not mean Lucas Oil Stabilizer is not the wonder additive, but I would
be concerned about anything that caused my oil to foam up.

When you build a gear train, you don't just rely on rpm to lubricate -
there are pressure ports, the gears are raked, the oil bath has more
volume, etc.

I can build a 6x2x6 box and make oil foam under high rpm - it proves
nothing.

Yeah, but foaming oil *is* one of the reasons why you're not supposed to
overfill, at least with certain types of engines. I wonder why this is a
concern.

info - at - swsports dot org

Photo sent.

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 03:24:46 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

What's the most common vehicle?

=============================

Dodge Caravans are right up there with the best (worst).

Tranny problems most likely based on our experience.

We've got a '97 Grand Caravan with 90,000 miles on the origianl
transmission. Got the 3.8L V6 in it. Our mechanic started putting in
synthetic trans fluid around 40,000.

The wife wants a new car but, the mini-van is still going strong!

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 20:17:53 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:12:12 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:


On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 03:24:46 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:


What's the most common vehicle?

=============================

Dodge Caravans are right up there with the best (worst).

Tranny problems most likely based on our experience.

I swear to you, I was going to say Dodge/Plymouth, but not the model.

Their engine blocks & pistons are machines to +/- 1/2 inch. Nice & tight.


LOL!!

Is that why my 3.0 liter V6 only puts out 142 hp yet seems a bit hard on
gas?

On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 23:27:18 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

Yeah, but foaming oil *is* one of the reasons why you're not supposed to
overfill, at least with certain types of engines. I wonder why this is a
concern.

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Foam is mostly air, and air doesn't lubricate all that well.

"Don White" wrote in message
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Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 20:17:53 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:12:12 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:


On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 03:24:46 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:


What's the most common vehicle?

=============================

Dodge Caravans are right up there with the best (worst).

Tranny problems most likely based on our experience.

I swear to you, I was going to say Dodge/Plymouth, but not the model.

Their engine blocks & pistons are machines to +/- 1/2 inch. Nice & tight.


LOL!!

Is that why my 3.0 liter V6 only puts out 142 hp yet seems a bit hard on
gas?

Bingo! Drive it into the ocean. It'll make great fish structure.