trim problem - slow responding
 

I'm new to boating...so if this is a dumb question please forgive me.

I bought my boat 2 weeks ago. 84 McKee Craft with 115 hp Yamaha.
Boat is stored in my garage.

Before pulling it out of the garage today, I went to raise the motor.
It whined for about 5 - 10 seconds before anything actually moved.
Seemed a little stiff at first, and then moved up and down as normal.

After washing the boat all day, I went to raise it again and it was
again slow to resopnd.

I'm wondering if this is attributable to:

1) cold weather: about 50 degrees
2) sitting for a while
3) possible low battery power - I need to charge the batteries
4) some bigger problem?

trim problem - slow responding
 

Check the reserve tank and top off tank.


"Charlie Brown" wrote in message
...
I'm new to boating...so if this is a dumb question please forgive me.

I bought my boat 2 weeks ago. 84 McKee Craft with 115 hp Yamaha.
Boat is stored in my garage.

Before pulling it out of the garage today, I went to raise the motor.
It whined for about 5 - 10 seconds before anything actually moved.
Seemed a little stiff at first, and then moved up and down as normal.

After washing the boat all day, I went to raise it again and it was
again slow to resopnd.

I'm wondering if this is attributable to:

1) cold weather: about 50 degrees
2) sitting for a while
3) possible low battery power - I need to charge the batteries
4) some bigger problem?

trim problem - slow responding
 

Okay, I think the first thing I need is to get a service manual
because I don't even know where the reserve tank is.

On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 17:11:21 -0500, "Lord Reginald Smithers" The
fastest and most accurate Gun in the World wrote:

Check the reserve tank and top off tank.


"Charlie Brown" wrote in message
.. .
I'm new to boating...so if this is a dumb question please forgive me.

I bought my boat 2 weeks ago. 84 McKee Craft with 115 hp Yamaha.
Boat is stored in my garage.

Before pulling it out of the garage today, I went to raise the motor.
It whined for about 5 - 10 seconds before anything actually moved.
Seemed a little stiff at first, and then moved up and down as normal.

After washing the boat all day, I went to raise it again and it was
again slow to resopnd.

I'm wondering if this is attributable to:

1) cold weather: about 50 degrees
2) sitting for a while
3) possible low battery power - I need to charge the batteries
4) some bigger problem?

trim problem - slow responding
 

"Charlie Brown" wrote in message
...
Okay, I think the first thing I need is to get a service manual
because I don't even know where the reserve tank is.

On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 17:11:21 -0500, "Lord Reginald Smithers" The
fastest and most accurate Gun in the World wrote:

Check the reserve tank and top off tank.


"Charlie Brown" wrote in message
. ..
I'm new to boating...so if this is a dumb question please forgive me.

I bought my boat 2 weeks ago. 84 McKee Craft with 115 hp Yamaha.
Boat is stored in my garage.

Before pulling it out of the garage today, I went to raise the motor.
It whined for about 5 - 10 seconds before anything actually moved.
Seemed a little stiff at first, and then moved up and down as normal.

After washing the boat all day, I went to raise it again and it was
again slow to resopnd.

I'm wondering if this is attributable to:

1) cold weather: about 50 degrees
2) sitting for a while
3) possible low battery power - I need to charge the batteries
4) some bigger problem?



It is normally attached to the interior side of the transom inside the
engine compartment.

trim problem - slow responding
 

and if it is not on the transom, somewhere close to the transom. It looks
like the reserve tank for your brake system in your car.


" JimH" wrote in message
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"Charlie Brown" wrote in message
...
Okay, I think the first thing I need is to get a service manual
because I don't even know where the reserve tank is.

On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 17:11:21 -0500, "Lord Reginald Smithers" The
fastest and most accurate Gun in the World wrote:

Check the reserve tank and top off tank.


"Charlie Brown" wrote in message
...
I'm new to boating...so if this is a dumb question please forgive me.

I bought my boat 2 weeks ago. 84 McKee Craft with 115 hp Yamaha.
Boat is stored in my garage.

Before pulling it out of the garage today, I went to raise the motor.
It whined for about 5 - 10 seconds before anything actually moved.
Seemed a little stiff at first, and then moved up and down as normal.

After washing the boat all day, I went to raise it again and it was
again slow to resopnd.

I'm wondering if this is attributable to:

1) cold weather: about 50 degrees
2) sitting for a while
3) possible low battery power - I need to charge the batteries
4) some bigger problem?



It is normally attached to the interior side of the transom inside the
engine compartment.

trim problem - slow responding
 

" JimH" wrote in message
...

"Charlie Brown" wrote in message
...
Okay, I think the first thing I need is to get a service manual
because I don't even know where the reserve tank is.

On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 17:11:21 -0500, "Lord Reginald Smithers" The
fastest and most accurate Gun in the World wrote:

Check the reserve tank and top off tank.


"Charlie Brown" wrote in message
...
I'm new to boating...so if this is a dumb question please forgive me.

I bought my boat 2 weeks ago. 84 McKee Craft with 115 hp Yamaha.
Boat is stored in my garage.

Before pulling it out of the garage today, I went to raise the motor.
It whined for about 5 - 10 seconds before anything actually moved.
Seemed a little stiff at first, and then moved up and down as normal.

After washing the boat all day, I went to raise it again and it was
again slow to resopnd.

I'm wondering if this is attributable to:

1) cold weather: about 50 degrees
2) sitting for a while
3) possible low battery power - I need to charge the batteries
4) some bigger problem?



It is normally attached to the interior side of the transom inside the
engine compartment.


You may also want to make sure that all electrical connections for the trim
and to the battery are free of corrosion and securely attached.

The temperature should have nothing to do with your problem.

trim problem - slow responding
 

Charlie Brown wrote:
I'm new to boating...so if this is a dumb question please forgive me.

I bought my boat 2 weeks ago. 84 McKee Craft with 115 hp Yamaha.
Boat is stored in my garage.

Before pulling it out of the garage today, I went to raise the motor.
It whined for about 5 - 10 seconds before anything actually moved.
Seemed a little stiff at first, and then moved up and down as normal.

After washing the boat all day, I went to raise it again and it was
again slow to resopnd.

I'm wondering if this is attributable to:

1) cold weather: about 50 degrees
2) sitting for a while
3) possible low battery power - I need to charge the batteries
4) some bigger problem?


The first thing I would check is the battery. I'd put the charger on it
overnight and try again tomorrow.

trim problem - slow responding
 

Don,
Ok, you can call me names and insult my mother, but whatever you do don't
correct my advice, or you I off to NS to ream you a new one. ; )


"Don White" wrote in message
...
Charlie Brown wrote:
I'm new to boating...so if this is a dumb question please forgive me.

I bought my boat 2 weeks ago. 84 McKee Craft with 115 hp Yamaha.
Boat is stored in my garage. Before pulling it out of the garage today, I
went to raise the motor.
It whined for about 5 - 10 seconds before anything actually moved.
Seemed a little stiff at first, and then moved up and down as normal.

After washing the boat all day, I went to raise it again and it was
again slow to resopnd. I'm wondering if this is attributable to:

1) cold weather: about 50 degrees
2) sitting for a while
3) possible low battery power - I need to charge the batteries
4) some bigger problem?


The first thing I would check is the battery. I'd put the charger on it
overnight and try again tomorrow.

trim problem - slow responding
 

Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:
Don,
Ok, you can call me names and insult my mother, but whatever you do don't
correct my advice, *or you I off to NS* to ream you a new one. ; )


Say what.. "or you I off to NS"...
You helping The Rev sample a new shipment of church wine?

trim problem - slow responding
 

LOL,
I have no idea what that meant.

Oh about "or I am off to NS to ream you a new one".

Please pass the wine.


"Don White" wrote in message
...
Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:
Don,
Ok, you can call me names and insult my mother, but whatever you do don't
correct my advice, *or you I off to NS* to ream you a new one. ; )


Say what.. "or you I off to NS"...
You helping The Rev sample a new shipment of church wine?

trim problem - slow responding
 

Thanks for all the great advice guys!

I'm really looking forward to using this boat.

trim problem - slow responding
 

Charlie Brown wrote:
I'm new to boating...so if this is a dumb question please forgive me.

I bought my boat 2 weeks ago. 84 McKee Craft with 115 hp Yamaha.
Boat is stored in my garage.

Before pulling it out of the garage today, I went to raise the motor.
It whined for about 5 - 10 seconds before anything actually moved.
Seemed a little stiff at first, and then moved up and down as normal.

After washing the boat all day, I went to raise it again and it was
again slow to resopnd.

I'm wondering if this is attributable to:

1) cold weather: about 50 degrees
2) sitting for a while
3) possible low battery power - I need to charge the batteries
4) some bigger problem?

You said you just bought the boat.

Are you confusing power trim with power tilt? You said you wanted to
raise the motor (tilt it up). If it was full down, then it has to go
thru a range of power trim, where it moves up and down very slowly,
until it gets to maximum up trim postion, at point the motor shifts to
tilt mode and it tilts up/down very quickly from that point on.
Could likely be that what is happening is perfectly normal (and desired).
HH

trim problem - slow responding
 

On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 16:45:36 GMT, HHatcher wrote:


You said you just bought the boat.

Are you confusing power trim with power tilt? You said you wanted to
raise the motor (tilt it up). If it was full down, then it has to go
thru a range of power trim, where it moves up and down very slowly,
until it gets to maximum up trim postion, at point the motor shifts to
tilt mode and it tilts up/down very quickly from that point on.
Could likely be that what is happening is perfectly normal (and desired).
HH

THere is only one up/down switch so I don't think there is a separate
trim and tilt. I charged teh battery today and still the outboard
didn't immediately move when operating the trim switch in either
direction. Held if for 3 or so seconds down, then up, then down and
it worked. Basically a whining noise until it starting moving. Going
to check the fluid next.

trim problem - slow responding
 

Around 12/18/2005 11:20 AM, Charlie Brown wrote:

THere is only one up/down switch so I don't think there is a separate
trim and tilt. I charged teh battery today and still the outboard
didn't immediately move when operating the trim switch in either
direction. Held if for 3 or so seconds down, then up, then down and
it worked. Basically a whining noise until it starting moving. Going
to check the fluid next.

That's the thing to do. It sounds to me like you need to bleed the
tilt's hydraulic system; it's trying to pump air and takes a while to
get to the fluid.


--
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"There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing
as simply messing about in boats." -- Kenneth Grahame
~~ Ventis secundis, tene cursum. ~~

trim problem - slow responding
 

I haven't been able to solve the problem so I took it to the mechanic.
It's been sitting a week. I went by there today and the trim isn't
functioning at all now other than the normal whining noise but nothing
moves.

I'm starting to wonder if the trim would be hooked up to the one of
the two accessory batteries mounted under the console to where the
trolling motor connects.. I hadn't charged those two thinking that
the primary battery would be responsible for all engine functions
including trim. Now I'm starting to wonder. Thinking maybe I should
go pull the batteries and bring them home and charge them. Sunday is
supposed to be a great day with the weather and my wife and I were
really looking forward to going fishing.

The closest thing that I could find to a fluid resevoir was a small
cylindrical resevoir that appeared to be full. It was mounted inside
on the motor. Not sure if that is the right thing. There did not
appear to be any simple way of adding fluid to this resevoir.

Still waiting for my service manual from Amazon.

On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 21:58:29 GMT, Charlie Brown
wrote:

I'm new to boating...so if this is a dumb question please forgive me.

I bought my boat 2 weeks ago. 84 McKee Craft with 115 hp Yamaha.
Boat is stored in my garage.

Before pulling it out of the garage today, I went to raise the motor.
It whined for about 5 - 10 seconds before anything actually moved.
Seemed a little stiff at first, and then moved up and down as normal.

After washing the boat all day, I went to raise it again and it was
again slow to resopnd.

I'm wondering if this is attributable to:

1) cold weather: about 50 degrees
2) sitting for a while
3) possible low battery power - I need to charge the batteries
4) some bigger problem?

trim problem - slow responding
 

On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 20:52:52 GMT, Charlie Brown wrote:

I haven't been able to solve the problem so I took it to the mechanic.
It's been sitting a week. I went by there today and the trim isn't
functioning at all now other than the normal whining noise but nothing
moves.

I'm starting to wonder if the trim would be hooked up to the one of
the two accessory batteries mounted under the console to where the
trolling motor connects.. I hadn't charged those two thinking that
the primary battery would be responsible for all engine functions
including trim. Now I'm starting to wonder. Thinking maybe I should
go pull the batteries and bring them home and charge them. Sunday is
supposed to be a great day with the weather and my wife and I were
really looking forward to going fishing.

The closest thing that I could find to a fluid resevoir was a small
cylindrical resevoir that appeared to be full. It was mounted inside
on the motor. Not sure if that is the right thing. There did not
appear to be any simple way of adding fluid to this resevoir.

Still waiting for my service manual from Amazon.

On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 21:58:29 GMT, Charlie Brown
wrote:

I'm new to boating...so if this is a dumb question please forgive me.

I bought my boat 2 weeks ago. 84 McKee Craft with 115 hp Yamaha.
Boat is stored in my garage.

Before pulling it out of the garage today, I went to raise the motor.
It whined for about 5 - 10 seconds before anything actually moved.
Seemed a little stiff at first, and then moved up and down as normal.

After washing the boat all day, I went to raise it again and it was
again slow to resopnd.

I'm wondering if this is attributable to:

1) cold weather: about 50 degrees
2) sitting for a while
3) possible low battery power - I need to charge the batteries
4) some bigger problem?

Don't know if you've seen this site yet, but it has Yamaha Manuals.

http://www.yamaha-motor.com/outboard...px?ls=outboard

--
John H.

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

trim problem - slow responding
 

On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 20:52:52 GMT, Charlie Brown wrote:

I haven't been able to solve the problem so I took it to the mechanic.
It's been sitting a week. I went by there today and the trim isn't
functioning at all now other than the normal whining noise but nothing
moves.

I'm starting to wonder if the trim would be hooked up to the one of
the two accessory batteries mounted under the console to where the
trolling motor connects.. I hadn't charged those two thinking that
the primary battery would be responsible for all engine functions
including trim. Now I'm starting to wonder. Thinking maybe I should
go pull the batteries and bring them home and charge them. Sunday is
supposed to be a great day with the weather and my wife and I were
really looking forward to going fishing.

The closest thing that I could find to a fluid resevoir was a small
cylindrical resevoir that appeared to be full. It was mounted inside
on the motor. Not sure if that is the right thing. There did not
appear to be any simple way of adding fluid to this resevoir.

Still waiting for my service manual from Amazon.

On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 21:58:29 GMT, Charlie Brown
wrote:

I'm new to boating...so if this is a dumb question please forgive me.

I bought my boat 2 weeks ago. 84 McKee Craft with 115 hp Yamaha.
Boat is stored in my garage.

Before pulling it out of the garage today, I went to raise the motor.
It whined for about 5 - 10 seconds before anything actually moved.
Seemed a little stiff at first, and then moved up and down as normal.

After washing the boat all day, I went to raise it again and it was
again slow to resopnd.

I'm wondering if this is attributable to:

1) cold weather: about 50 degrees
2) sitting for a while
3) possible low battery power - I need to charge the batteries
4) some bigger problem?

Don't know if this is the same engine, but it might help give you an idea where the
reservoir is located.

http://www.boats.net/yamaha/partsyst...1c40465fa4cfd3

--
John H.

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

trim problem - slow responding
 

On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 20:52:52 GMT, Charlie Brown wrote:

I haven't been able to solve the problem so I took it to the mechanic.
It's been sitting a week. I went by there today and the trim isn't
functioning at all now other than the normal whining noise but nothing
moves.

I'm starting to wonder if the trim would be hooked up to the one of
the two accessory batteries mounted under the console to where the
trolling motor connects.. I hadn't charged those two thinking that
the primary battery would be responsible for all engine functions
including trim. Now I'm starting to wonder. Thinking maybe I should
go pull the batteries and bring them home and charge them. Sunday is
supposed to be a great day with the weather and my wife and I were
really looking forward to going fishing.

The closest thing that I could find to a fluid resevoir was a small
cylindrical resevoir that appeared to be full. It was mounted inside
on the motor. Not sure if that is the right thing. There did not
appear to be any simple way of adding fluid to this resevoir.

Still waiting for my service manual from Amazon.

On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 21:58:29 GMT, Charlie Brown
wrote:

I'm new to boating...so if this is a dumb question please forgive me.

I bought my boat 2 weeks ago. 84 McKee Craft with 115 hp Yamaha.
Boat is stored in my garage.

Before pulling it out of the garage today, I went to raise the motor.
It whined for about 5 - 10 seconds before anything actually moved.
Seemed a little stiff at first, and then moved up and down as normal.

After washing the boat all day, I went to raise it again and it was
again slow to resopnd.

I'm wondering if this is attributable to:

1) cold weather: about 50 degrees
2) sitting for a while
3) possible low battery power - I need to charge the batteries
4) some bigger problem?

If that long url didn't work, try this:

http://tinyurl.com/9ky6v

Look at part # 22.

--
John H.

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

trim problem - slow responding
 

Why not just lift the cable off of the trolling motor batteries..then hit
the trim switch..If you then hear no whining noise..those are the batteries
to look at more carefully.

If you DO HEAR a whining noise.....those are NOT the batteries in the
circuit. The starting battery could still be run down and need charging. A
12 volt measurement doesn't mean anything unless it is under load. RG
"Charlie Brown" wrote in message
...
I haven't been able to solve the problem so I took it to the mechanic.
It's been sitting a week. I went by there today and the trim isn't
functioning at all now other than the normal whining noise but nothing
moves.

I'm starting to wonder if the trim would be hooked up to the one of
the two accessory batteries mounted under the console to where the
trolling motor connects.. I hadn't charged those two thinking that
the primary battery would be responsible for all engine functions
including trim. Now I'm starting to wonder. Thinking maybe I should
go pull the batteries and bring them home and charge them. Sunday is
supposed to be a great day with the weather and my wife and I were
really looking forward to going fishing.

The closest thing that I could find to a fluid resevoir was a small
cylindrical resevoir that appeared to be full. It was mounted inside
on the motor. Not sure if that is the right thing. There did not
appear to be any simple way of adding fluid to this resevoir.

Still waiting for my service manual from Amazon.

On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 21:58:29 GMT, Charlie Brown
wrote:

I'm new to boating...so if this is a dumb question please forgive me.

I bought my boat 2 weeks ago. 84 McKee Craft with 115 hp Yamaha.
Boat is stored in my garage.

Before pulling it out of the garage today, I went to raise the motor.
It whined for about 5 - 10 seconds before anything actually moved.
Seemed a little stiff at first, and then moved up and down as normal.

After washing the boat all day, I went to raise it again and it was
again slow to resopnd.

I'm wondering if this is attributable to:

1) cold weather: about 50 degrees
2) sitting for a while
3) possible low battery power - I need to charge the batteries
4) some bigger problem?