Teenagers, Cars and GPS?
 

Our youngest daughter will be turning 16 in Jan. My wife wants to give her
a GPS unit for the car. My wife's logic is she would be a safer driver, if
she didn't knew where she was going, and was not looking for street names
and addresses.

It seems to me that another electronic toy in the car is just another thing
to distract her from watching the road.

Does anyone have any experience with GPS and teenagers?

and

Most importantly, does anyone have any experience buying a handheld unit
that has both maps for city driving and nautical charts?

Teenagers, Cars and GPS?
 

"Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my manor.
wrote in message . ..
Our youngest daughter will be turning 16 in Jan. My wife wants to give
her a GPS unit for the car. My wife's logic is she would be a safer
driver, if she didn't knew where she was going, and was not looking for
street names and addresses.

It seems to me that another electronic toy in the car is just another
thing to distract her from watching the road.

Does anyone have any experience with GPS and teenagers?

and

Most importantly, does anyone have any experience buying a handheld unit
that has both maps for city driving and nautical charts?

This may sound harsh, but your wife should be chained to a wall in the
cellar and fed unheated, undiluted store brand cream of celery soup one
spoonful at a time until she agrees to forget this hideous idea.

1) Anyone who cannot learn to read a map or jot down driving directions with
a Flair pen (so it's fat & easy to read while driving) should not be allowed
out of the house.

2) You're right - the electronic device will be another distraction,
particularly in light of #3:

3) Speak to your insurance agent and ask which gender gets hit with higher
rates at her age. Mine says it's girls. Used to be boys when I was young.
Either something's changed, or young girls have always been worse, but the
insurance agency didn't notice this 35 years ago. Girls are awful drivers.
Your daughter doesn't need any help to be worse.

4) Every time you're being tailgated *really badly*, try and notice what
kind of driver it is. Young girls are the worst with this. The last thing
she needs is a toy in the car that'll keep her from noticing the license
plate she's about to eat for lunch.

Teenagers, Cars and GPS?
 

Doug,
Well now that I have support for my veto, can I defer from celery soup
torture?

I am afraid my wife feel victim to the ad for Tom-Tom. I think she can
remember when she started to drive and did not know her way around town.
They make Tom-Tom seem like the computer from Star Trek, and my guess it is
not as user friendly as the Star Trek Computer.

Our other kids found Mapquest to be a god send, and I hope our youngest
enjoys the beauty and simplicity of Mapquest.

I am glad you didn't suggest I tie her to the TV and shot the TV. You are
mellowing in your old age.


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my
manor. wrote in message
. ..
Our youngest daughter will be turning 16 in Jan. My wife wants to give
her a GPS unit for the car. My wife's logic is she would be a safer
driver, if she didn't knew where she was going, and was not looking for
street names and addresses.

It seems to me that another electronic toy in the car is just another
thing to distract her from watching the road.

Does anyone have any experience with GPS and teenagers?

and

Most importantly, does anyone have any experience buying a handheld unit
that has both maps for city driving and nautical charts?

This may sound harsh, but your wife should be chained to a wall in the
cellar and fed unheated, undiluted store brand cream of celery soup one
spoonful at a time until she agrees to forget this hideous idea.

1) Anyone who cannot learn to read a map or jot down driving directions
with a Flair pen (so it's fat & easy to read while driving) should not be
allowed out of the house.

2) You're right - the electronic device will be another distraction,
particularly in light of #3:

3) Speak to your insurance agent and ask which gender gets hit with higher
rates at her age. Mine says it's girls. Used to be boys when I was young.
Either something's changed, or young girls have always been worse, but the
insurance agency didn't notice this 35 years ago. Girls are awful drivers.
Your daughter doesn't need any help to be worse.

4) Every time you're being tailgated *really badly*, try and notice what
kind of driver it is. Young girls are the worst with this. The last thing
she needs is a toy in the car that'll keep her from noticing the license
plate she's about to eat for lunch.

Teenagers, Cars and GPS?
 

"Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my manor.
wrote in message . ..
Doug,
Well now that I have support for my veto, can I defer from celery soup
torture?

I'd question her first to be sure there are no remnants of her errant
belief. The idea needs to be crushed in the most Stalinesque way possible.


I am afraid my wife feel victim to the ad for Tom-Tom. I think she can
remember when she started to drive and did not know her way around town.
They make Tom-Tom seem like the computer from Star Trek, and my guess it
is not as user friendly as the Star Trek Computer.

Our other kids found Mapquest to be a god send, and I hope our youngest
enjoys the beauty and simplicity of Mapquest.

How about just buying her a nice map book of the area? Gas stations sell
them.

Teenagers, Cars and GPS?
 

Doug,

As someone who started driving using fold up maps and has since converted to
Mapquest I find Mapquest far superior. It is on one page, versus a fold up
map where you have to refold the map to cover the area you want to travel.
You can change the scale and detail to fit your needs. You can easily
review your route before you leave, and it only requires minimum review
along the way. You don't have to worry about the fold up map getting torn
in the car, or being destroy by numerous folding and unfolding, trying to
fold the map correctly after your wife and daughters had incorrectly folded
the map numerous times. Or even trying to locate the map after the wife and
children have driven the car.

Now, if you EVER mention fold up maps again, you are either going down to
the basement or tied to the TV.

I personally would vote for the TV gag.



"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my
manor. wrote in message
. ..
Doug,
Well now that I have support for my veto, can I defer from celery soup
torture?

I'd question her first to be sure there are no remnants of her errant
belief. The idea needs to be crushed in the most Stalinesque way possible.


I am afraid my wife feel victim to the ad for Tom-Tom. I think she can
remember when she started to drive and did not know her way around town.
They make Tom-Tom seem like the computer from Star Trek, and my guess it
is not as user friendly as the Star Trek Computer.

Our other kids found Mapquest to be a god send, and I hope our youngest
enjoys the beauty and simplicity of Mapquest.

How about just buying her a nice map book of the area? Gas stations sell
them.

Teenagers, Cars and GPS?
 

"Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my manor.
wrote in message ...
Doug,

As someone who started driving using fold up maps and has since converted
to Mapquest I find Mapquest far superior. It is on one page, versus a
fold up map where you have to refold the map to cover the area you want to
travel. You can change the scale and detail to fit your needs. You can
easily review your route before you leave, and it only requires minimum
review along the way. You don't have to worry about the fold up map
getting torn in the car, or being destroy by numerous folding and
unfolding, trying to fold the map correctly after your wife and daughters
had incorrectly folded the map numerous times. Or even trying to locate
the map after the wife and children have driven the car.

Now, if you EVER mention fold up maps again, you are either going down to
the basement or tied to the TV.

I personally would vote for the TV gag.

Aren't there map books of your city??? The one I have is rugged, and the
scale is perfect for driving around and quickly spotting where you are.

Teenagers, Cars and GPS?
 

Doug,
This conversation is finished. I do not want to discuss fold up maps or map
books anymore. If you insist on continuing this conversation, I will be
forced to create a MACRO. Don't make me create a MACRO on you now. ; )


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my
manor. wrote in message ...
Doug,

As someone who started driving using fold up maps and has since converted
to Mapquest I find Mapquest far superior. It is on one page, versus a
fold up map where you have to refold the map to cover the area you want
to travel. You can change the scale and detail to fit your needs. You
can easily review your route before you leave, and it only requires
minimum review along the way. You don't have to worry about the fold up
map getting torn in the car, or being destroy by numerous folding and
unfolding, trying to fold the map correctly after your wife and daughters
had incorrectly folded the map numerous times. Or even trying to locate
the map after the wife and children have driven the car.

Now, if you EVER mention fold up maps again, you are either going down to
the basement or tied to the TV.

I personally would vote for the TV gag.

Aren't there map books of your city??? The one I have is rugged, and the
scale is perfect for driving around and quickly spotting where you are.

Teenagers, Cars and GPS?
 

"Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my manor.
wrote in message . ..
Our youngest daughter will be turning 16 in Jan. My wife wants to give
her a GPS unit for the car. My wife's logic is she would be a safer
driver, if she didn't knew where she was going, and was not looking for
street names and addresses.

It seems to me that another electronic toy in the car is just another
thing to distract her from watching the road.

Does anyone have any experience with GPS and teenagers?

and

Most importantly, does anyone have any experience buying a handheld unit
that has both maps for city driving and nautical charts?




I agree with all the advice Doug has offered.

We had a rule with our kids just after they got their license..........no
more than one friend in the car at any time. Statistics show that the
frequency of accidents increases when a new driver has more than one friend
in the car. The more kids in the car.........the more distractions.

Our other rule was no talking on the cell phone when driving.

Speaking of cell phones.....you may want to consider getting her one if she
does not already have one. If she has her own car a membership to AAA is
also a good idea.

Regarding insurance premiums for boys vs. girls..........our experience is
that the premium is *much* higher on boys than girls.

Teenagers, Cars and GPS?
 

JimH,
We have always purchased the kids a cell phone when they turned 15. This
just happened to match up with when they started to date or go out with
friends who have a car. They think it is the best thing since sliced bread,
and my wife and I love being able to get in touch with them whenever we
want. The new family plans make it reasonable.


" JimH" wrote in message
...

"Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my
manor. wrote in message
. ..
Our youngest daughter will be turning 16 in Jan. My wife wants to give
her a GPS unit for the car. My wife's logic is she would be a safer
driver, if she didn't knew where she was going, and was not looking for
street names and addresses.

It seems to me that another electronic toy in the car is just another
thing to distract her from watching the road.

Does anyone have any experience with GPS and teenagers?

and

Most importantly, does anyone have any experience buying a handheld unit
that has both maps for city driving and nautical charts?




I agree with all the advice Doug has offered.

We had a rule with our kids just after they got their license..........no
more than one friend in the car at any time. Statistics show that the
frequency of accidents increases when a new driver has more than one
friend in the car. The more kids in the car.........the more
distractions.

Our other rule was no talking on the cell phone when driving.

Speaking of cell phones.....you may want to consider getting her one if
she does not already have one. If she has her own car a membership to AAA
is also a good idea.

Regarding insurance premiums for boys vs. girls..........our experience is
that the premium is *much* higher on boys than girls.

Teenagers, Cars and GPS?
 

"Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my manor.
wrote in message ...
Doug,
This conversation is finished. I do not want to discuss fold up maps or
map books anymore. If you insist on continuing this conversation, I will
be forced to create a MACRO. Don't make me create a MACRO on you now.
; )

When I go out to the car, I'll get you the name of the company that makes
the nice map books. Maybe they make one for your town.

Teenagers, Cars and GPS?
 

JimH wrote:
"Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my manor.
wrote in message . ..
Our youngest daughter will be turning 16 in Jan. My wife wants to give
her a GPS unit for the car. My wife's logic is she would be a safer
driver, if she didn't knew where she was going, and was not looking for
street names and addresses.

It seems to me that another electronic toy in the car is just another
thing to distract her from watching the road.

Does anyone have any experience with GPS and teenagers?

and

Most importantly, does anyone have any experience buying a handheld unit
that has both maps for city driving and nautical charts?




I agree with all the advice Doug has offered.

We had a rule with our kids just after they got their license..........no
more than one friend in the car at any time. Statistics show that the
frequency of accidents increases when a new driver has more than one friend
in the car. The more kids in the car.........the more distractions.

Our other rule was no talking on the cell phone when driving.

Speaking of cell phones.....you may want to consider getting her one if she
does not already have one. If she has her own car a membership to AAA is
also a good idea.

Regarding insurance premiums for boys vs. girls..........our experience is
that the premium is *much* higher on boys than girls.


Washington has a special license for young drivers. I may have a few of
the details fuzzy, but in general it works like this: If you get your
license at 16, you cannot drive with another
person under 21 in the car for the first several months. They may also
be some restriction about driving after dark- or at least in the wee
hours of the morning. After the proscribed time period elapses without
ticket, accident, or being caught with other kids in the car the
licensee "graduates" to a full fledged, unrestricted driver's license.
Makes all the sense in the world to me- they put they kids through
driver's ed and have them drive a circle around
the neighborhood cul-de-sac. It's a long way from those back road,
suburban experiences to the bumper-to-bumper at 70mph horn blaring, no
turn signalling, finger waving, high beam flashing reality of the
freeways these days. Kids, as well as the rest of us, need to
concentrate on the road. Hang up and drive.

It's interesting that some insurance companies are now charging more
for girls than for boys. Maybe in the era of hot rods and muscle cars
the boys tended to engage in more dangerous behavior, but in the era of
cell phones the girls are now so distracted they aren't driving as
carefully as they should?

GPS for a kid? Where in the sam heck are they going with the car that
they wouldn't have been able to walk, take a bus, or ride a bike last
year, (and without GPS), before they were a driver? :-)

Teenagers, Cars and GPS?
 

"Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my manor.
wrote in message . ..
Our youngest daughter will be turning 16 in Jan. My wife wants to give
her a GPS unit for the car. My wife's logic is she would be a safer
driver, if she didn't knew where she was going, and was not looking for
street names and addresses.

It seems to me that another electronic toy in the car is just another
thing to distract her from watching the road.

Does anyone have any experience with GPS and teenagers?

and

Most importantly, does anyone have any experience buying a handheld unit
that has both maps for city driving and nautical charts?




I'd be more interested in a tracking device in my teenage daughter's car.
Hulk Hogan put one in his daughter's car when she started dating!

Actually, think of it this way: your teen can pull over to look at the gps
if she gets lost instead of stopping to ask stranger's the way or wandering
about possibly into neighborhood's that aren't safe. Just stress the
importance of pulling over to read the gps. Of course, with a friend in the
car, they would be the navigator. And don't forget to teach her how to read
a map.

Bryan

Teenagers, Cars and GPS?
 

Chuck,

Unfortunately, Mass Transit sucks in my area. There are very few sidewalks,
so riding a bike outside of the neighborhood is very rarely seen. The
parents run the kids up to the mall, to the movies, to friends and to
school functions etc. What surprised by my wife and myself with the other
kids, is that the kids had no idea how to get from point A to point B, even
though they had been driven there for years. It seems that their mind was
in another world. That might be why they never responded as we talked to
them.

When I give my wife my input on the idea of a Tom-Tom for the car, I am sure
she will ask her friends. I am also certain they will agree with the
consensus of rec.boats. It also shows what a great job Tom-Tom is doing
with marketing. My wife is not a techno guru, but she thought it was the
best thing since sliced bread.




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oups.com...

JimH wrote:
"Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my
manor.
wrote in message . ..
Our youngest daughter will be turning 16 in Jan. My wife wants to give
her a GPS unit for the car. My wife's logic is she would be a safer
driver, if she didn't knew where she was going, and was not looking for
street names and addresses.

It seems to me that another electronic toy in the car is just another
thing to distract her from watching the road.

Does anyone have any experience with GPS and teenagers?

and

Most importantly, does anyone have any experience buying a handheld
unit
that has both maps for city driving and nautical charts?




I agree with all the advice Doug has offered.

We had a rule with our kids just after they got their license..........no
more than one friend in the car at any time. Statistics show that the
frequency of accidents increases when a new driver has more than one
friend
in the car. The more kids in the car.........the more distractions.

Our other rule was no talking on the cell phone when driving.

Speaking of cell phones.....you may want to consider getting her one if
she
does not already have one. If she has her own car a membership to AAA is
also a good idea.

Regarding insurance premiums for boys vs. girls..........our experience
is
that the premium is *much* higher on boys than girls.


Washington has a special license for young drivers. I may have a few of
the details fuzzy, but in general it works like this: If you get your
license at 16, you cannot drive with another
person under 21 in the car for the first several months. They may also
be some restriction about driving after dark- or at least in the wee
hours of the morning. After the proscribed time period elapses without
ticket, accident, or being caught with other kids in the car the
licensee "graduates" to a full fledged, unrestricted driver's license.
Makes all the sense in the world to me- they put they kids through
driver's ed and have them drive a circle around
the neighborhood cul-de-sac. It's a long way from those back road,
suburban experiences to the bumper-to-bumper at 70mph horn blaring, no
turn signalling, finger waving, high beam flashing reality of the
freeways these days. Kids, as well as the rest of us, need to
concentrate on the road. Hang up and drive.

It's interesting that some insurance companies are now charging more
for girls than for boys. Maybe in the era of hot rods and muscle cars
the boys tended to engage in more dangerous behavior, but in the era of
cell phones the girls are now so distracted they aren't driving as
carefully as they should?

GPS for a kid? Where in the sam heck are they going with the car that
they wouldn't have been able to walk, take a bus, or ride a bike last
year, (and without GPS), before they were a driver? :-)

Teenagers, Cars and GPS?
 

Geeez...a cell phone, gps, blabbing friends, blaring tunes...Hope your
insurance is paid up. Oh, and please tell us where she will be driving,
so we can get the hell out of the way.
JR

Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:
Our youngest daughter will be turning 16 in Jan. My wife wants to give her
a GPS unit for the car. My wife's logic is she would be a safer driver, if
she didn't knew where she was going, and was not looking for street names
and addresses.

It seems to me that another electronic toy in the car is just another thing
to distract her from watching the road.

Does anyone have any experience with GPS and teenagers?

and

Most importantly, does anyone have any experience buying a handheld unit
that has both maps for city driving and nautical charts?





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Home Page: http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth

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Fred,
Yes, but we don't allow her to use it in the car.


"Fred Dehl" wrote in message
...
"Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my
manor. wrote in :

Our youngest daughter will be turning 16 in Jan. My wife wants to
give her a GPS unit for the car. My wife's logic is she would be a
safer driver, if she didn't knew where she was going, and was not
looking for street names and addresses.

It seems to me that another electronic toy in the car is just another
thing to distract her from watching the road.

"Another" electronic toy? Guess for her 15th you got her a vibrator?

Teenagers, Cars and GPS?
 

Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:

That might be why they never responded as we talked to them.

I've noticed that Krause does not respond to your posts. Do you have any
idea why? Did you embarrass him or somethin?

--
Skipper

Teenagers, Cars and GPS?
 

JR,
Where do you live? I am going to ask her to put her practice hours in your
neighborhood.




"JR North" wrote in message
.. .
Geeez...a cell phone, gps, blabbing friends, blaring tunes...Hope your
insurance is paid up. Oh, and please tell us where she will be driving, so
we can get the hell out of the way.
JR

Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:
Our youngest daughter will be turning 16 in Jan. My wife wants to give
her a GPS unit for the car. My wife's logic is she would be a safer
driver, if she didn't knew where she was going, and was not looking for
street names and addresses.

It seems to me that another electronic toy in the car is just another
thing to distract her from watching the road.

Does anyone have any experience with GPS and teenagers?

and

Most importantly, does anyone have any experience buying a handheld unit
that has both maps for city driving and nautical charts?





--
--------------------------------------------------------------
Home Page: http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth

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Skipper,
I have no idea, I have always been polite in all of my conversations with
him.

My guess is he does not feel he can converse with someone with my
educational background. ; )


"Skipper" wrote in message
...
Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:

That might be why they never responded as we talked to them.

I've noticed that Krause does not respond to your posts. Do you have any
idea why? Did you embarrass him or somethin?

--
Skipper

Teenagers, Cars and GPS?
 

Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:

I've noticed that Krause does not respond to your posts. Do you have any
idea why? Did you embarrass him or somethin?

I have no idea, I have always been polite in all of my conversations with
him.

My guess is he does not feel he can converse with someone with my
educational background. ; )

Well, I have noticed he's just not journeyman TV news anchor material.
He does present more as a weekend cub reporter. You may be right, it
might just be a case of being upstaged by your presence. His type does
not handle that well.

--
Skipper

Teenagers, Cars and GPS?
 

Harry,
Did you know my parents? My mother was an angel wasn't she?


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Skipper wrote:
Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:

That might be why they never responded as we talked to them.

I've noticed that Krause does not respond to your posts. Do you have any
idea why? Did you embarrass him or somethin?

--
Skipper

Smithers is an embarrassment to his parents, not to me.


--
Jesus: A Long Haired, Peace Loving, Anti Establishment, Liberal.

Teenagers, Cars and GPS?
 

LMAO!


On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 09:59:20 -0500, "Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to
my manor. wrote:

Doug,
This conversation is finished. I do not want to discuss fold up maps or map
books anymore. If you insist on continuing this conversation, I will be
forced to create a MACRO. Don't make me create a MACRO on you now. ; )


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my
manor. wrote in message ...
Doug,

As someone who started driving using fold up maps and has since converted
to Mapquest I find Mapquest far superior. It is on one page, versus a
fold up map where you have to refold the map to cover the area you want
to travel. You can change the scale and detail to fit your needs. You
can easily review your route before you leave, and it only requires
minimum review along the way. You don't have to worry about the fold up
map getting torn in the car, or being destroy by numerous folding and
unfolding, trying to fold the map correctly after your wife and daughters
had incorrectly folded the map numerous times. Or even trying to locate
the map after the wife and children have driven the car.

Now, if you EVER mention fold up maps again, you are either going down to
the basement or tied to the TV.

I personally would vote for the TV gag.

Aren't there map books of your city??? The one I have is rugged, and the
scale is perfect for driving around and quickly spotting where you are.




--
John H

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Wishing you Peace, Fellowship, and Good Humor as we celebrate the birth of OUR Lord, Jesus Christ on the Christmas Holy Day.

Teenagers, Cars and GPS?
 

Skipper wrote:
Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:


That might be why they never responded as we talked to them.


I've noticed that Krause does not respond to your posts. Do you have any
idea why? Did you embarrass him or somethin?

--
Skipper


You're just noticing that now?
Who said you were a bit slow?

Teenagers, Cars and GPS?
 

'Preciate that. My lawyer has been bugging me for a new case lately.
JR

Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:

JR,
Where do you live? I am going to ask her to put her practice hours in your
neighborhood.




"JR North" wrote in message
.. .

Geeez...a cell phone, gps, blabbing friends, blaring tunes...Hope your
insurance is paid up. Oh, and please tell us where she will be driving, so
we can get the hell out of the way.
JR

Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:

Our youngest daughter will be turning 16 in Jan. My wife wants to give
her a GPS unit for the car. My wife's logic is she would be a safer
driver, if she didn't knew where she was going, and was not looking for
street names and addresses.

It seems to me that another electronic toy in the car is just another
thing to distract her from watching the road.

Does anyone have any experience with GPS and teenagers?

and

Most importantly, does anyone have any experience buying a handheld unit
that has both maps for city driving and nautical charts?





--
--------------------------------------------------------------
Home Page: http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth





--
--------------------------------------------------------------
Home Page: http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth

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JR,
NP, my wife wanted our daughter to learn how to drink coffee while applying
makeup and chatting on the phone all at the same time. I thought the GPS
unit was over the top, but as long as she has a nice quiet neighborhood to
practice in, it probably will be ok.


"JR North" wrote in message
...
'Preciate that. My lawyer has been bugging me for a new case lately.
JR

Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:

JR,
Where do you live? I am going to ask her to put her practice hours in
your neighborhood.




"JR North" wrote in message
.. .

Geeez...a cell phone, gps, blabbing friends, blaring tunes...Hope your
insurance is paid up. Oh, and please tell us where she will be driving,
so we can get the hell out of the way.
JR

Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:

Our youngest daughter will be turning 16 in Jan. My wife wants to give
her a GPS unit for the car. My wife's logic is she would be a safer
driver, if she didn't knew where she was going, and was not looking for
street names and addresses.

It seems to me that another electronic toy in the car is just another
thing to distract her from watching the road.

Does anyone have any experience with GPS and teenagers?

and

Most importantly, does anyone have any experience buying a handheld unit
that has both maps for city driving and nautical charts?





--
--------------------------------------------------------------
Home Page: http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth





--
--------------------------------------------------------------
Home Page: http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth

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Harry,
My feeling are hurt. Do you really think I am an obsessed a$$hole?

Can you imagine anyone who would follow someone else around making snide
comments after everyone's post. Can you imagine the type of person who
would do that with hundreds of people. Someone who would visit alt.obits,
and rec.jetski just to instigate fights so he could use his limited
vocabulary to sling silly insults? I am glad I only chat with you, and stay
away from the silly insults. I am glad I only chat about those things you
have already made a topic of conversation.

My feelings are hurt, because I place so much value in your opinion. Is
there something I can do to make up? Maybe we can get together for a beer
and a spin in your Lobster Boat. I'll buy the diesel fuel.






"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
Skipper wrote:
Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:


That might be why they never responded as we talked to them.

I've noticed that Krause does not respond to your posts. Do you have any
idea why? Did you embarrass him or somethin?

--
Skipper


You're just noticing that now?
Who said you were a bit slow?


Smithers wants sooooo badly for me to give him a tumble, he can almost
taste it. He spends most of his time in rec.boats writing questions to me
that will never be answered, and comments about me that he thinks will
upset me in some way.

If there is a clinical variant of "obsessed asshole," Smithers is its
name.

Skipper, of course, is in a different category. He's sort of outrageous
like NOYB (though not nearly as clever), and as boring in his dogma as
that "other" Dave Hall that used to visit here.

One can imagine Skippy encountering a burglar in his house and telling the
guy to wait while he finds his pistol and flicks on the laser light, only
to find out the wal-mart batteries he bought have corroded it out.

Mr. Bayliner...the great offshore boater, plying the deep, dangerous, and
dark waters of...Kansas.

--
Somewhere in Texas, a village is missing its idiot.

Teenagers, Cars and GPS?
 

Fits harry like a glove

"The other "punishment" narcissists mete out is banishing you from their
glorious presence"

"The narcissist expects that you will be devastated by the withdrawal of
her/his divine attention, so that after a while -- a few weeks or months
(i.e., the next time the narcissist needs to use you for something) -- the
narcissist will expect you to have learned your lesson and be eager to
return to the fold. If you have learned your lesson"

"They can't see that they have a problem; it's always somebody else who
has the problem and needs to change"

"Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my manor.
wrote in message ...
Harry,
My feeling are hurt. Do you really think I am an obsessed a$$hole?

Can you imagine anyone who would follow someone else around making snide
comments after everyone's post. Can you imagine the type of person who
would do that with hundreds of people. Someone who would visit alt.obits,
and rec.jetski just to instigate fights so he could use his limited
vocabulary to sling silly insults? I am glad I only chat with you, and
stay
away from the silly insults. I am glad I only chat about those things
you
have already made a topic of conversation.

My feelings are hurt, because I place so much value in your opinion. Is
there something I can do to make up? Maybe we can get together for a beer
and a spin in your Lobster Boat. I'll buy the diesel fuel.






"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
Skipper wrote:
Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:


That might be why they never responded as we talked to them.

I've noticed that Krause does not respond to your posts. Do you have
any
idea why? Did you embarrass him or somethin?

--
Skipper


You're just noticing that now?
Who said you were a bit slow?


Smithers wants sooooo badly for me to give him a tumble, he can almost
taste it. He spends most of his time in rec.boats writing questions to
me
that will never be answered, and comments about me that he thinks will
upset me in some way.

If there is a clinical variant of "obsessed asshole," Smithers is its
name.

Skipper, of course, is in a different category. He's sort of outrageous
like NOYB (though not nearly as clever), and as boring in his dogma as
that "other" Dave Hall that used to visit here.

One can imagine Skippy encountering a burglar in his house and telling
the
guy to wait while he finds his pistol and flicks on the laser light,
only
to find out the wal-mart batteries he bought have corroded it out.

Mr. Bayliner...the great offshore boater, plying the deep, dangerous,
and
dark waters of...Kansas.

--
Somewhere in Texas, a village is missing its idiot.

Teenagers, Cars and GPS?
 

"Fred Dehl" wrote in message
...
"Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my
manor. wrote in :

Our youngest daughter will be turning 16 in Jan. My wife wants to
give her a GPS unit for the car. My wife's logic is she would be a
safer driver, if she didn't knew where she was going, and was not
looking for street names and addresses.

It seems to me that another electronic toy in the car is just another
thing to distract her from watching the road.

"Another" electronic toy? Guess for her 15th you got her a vibrator?

What the hell is wrong with you! Do you need medication? See a shrink.

Teenagers, Cars and GPS?
 

"JR North" wrote in message
.. .
Geeez...a cell phone, gps, blabbing friends, blaring tunes...Hope your
insurance is paid up. Oh, and please tell us where she will be driving, so
we can get the hell out of the way.
JR


JR,

You seem to have an absence of faith in our youth. Say it ain't so. I'll
bet you were young once.

Teenagers, Cars and GPS?
 

"Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my manor.
wrote in message ...
JR,
NP, my wife wanted our daughter to learn how to drink coffee while
applying makeup and chatting on the phone all at the same time. I thought
the GPS unit was over the top, but as long as she has a nice quiet
neighborhood to practice in, it probably will be ok.

You forgot to teach her how to eat the Carls Jr. double cheeseburger
without getting food on her clothes!

Teenagers, Cars and GPS?
 

Bryan wrote:
"Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my manor.
wrote in message ...

JR,
NP, my wife wanted our daughter to learn how to drink coffee while
applying makeup and chatting on the phone all at the same time. I thought
the GPS unit was over the top, but as long as she has a nice quiet
neighborhood to practice in, it probably will be ok.


You forgot to teach her how to eat the Carls Jr. double cheeseburger
without getting food on her clothes!


I read that people were putting DVD players in the front console of
their car. That will be the next problem...best stay off the streets
when the 'soaps' are on.

Teenagers, Cars and GPS?
 

On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 14:17:42 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:

Don White wrote:
Skipper wrote:
Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:


That might be why they never responded as we talked to them.

I've noticed that Krause does not respond to your posts. Do you have any
idea why? Did you embarrass him or somethin?

--
Skipper


You're just noticing that now?
Who said you were a bit slow?


Smithers wants sooooo badly for me to give him a tumble, he can almost
taste it. He spends most of his time in rec.boats writing questions to
me that will never be answered, and comments about me that he thinks
will upset me in some way.

If there is a clinical variant of "obsessed asshole," Smithers is its name.

Skipper, of course, is in a different category. He's sort of outrageous
like NOYB (though not nearly as clever), and as boring in his dogma as
that "other" Dave Hall that used to visit here.

One can imagine Skippy encountering a burglar in his house and telling
the guy to wait while he finds his pistol and flicks on the laser light,
only to find out the wal-mart batteries he bought have corroded it out.

Mr. Bayliner...the great offshore boater, plying the deep, dangerous,
and dark waters of...Kansas.

Harry, your (*not* the universal 'your') NPD is in full blossom.

--
John H

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Wishing you Peace, Fellowship, and Good Humor as we celebrate the birth of OUR Lord, Jesus Christ on the Christmas Holy Day.

Teenagers, Cars and GPS?
 

JohnH,
Oh I wish Harry would "tumble" with me. ; )

I really don't know what "tumble" means, but it sounds sexual. Ewwwww, I
think I just had a little vomit come up. The funny thing, I think Harry
believes what he says. He thinks by not responding directly to my posts,
and only responding 2nd hand or with one of his "Macros", that he is
punishing me.


"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 14:17:42 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Don White wrote:
Skipper wrote:
Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:


That might be why they never responded as we talked to them.

I've noticed that Krause does not respond to your posts. Do you have
any
idea why? Did you embarrass him or somethin?

--
Skipper


You're just noticing that now?
Who said you were a bit slow?


Smithers wants sooooo badly for me to give him a tumble, he can almost
taste it. He spends most of his time in rec.boats writing questions to
me that will never be answered, and comments about me that he thinks
will upset me in some way.

If there is a clinical variant of "obsessed asshole," Smithers is its
name.

Skipper, of course, is in a different category. He's sort of outrageous
like NOYB (though not nearly as clever), and as boring in his dogma as
that "other" Dave Hall that used to visit here.

One can imagine Skippy encountering a burglar in his house and telling
the guy to wait while he finds his pistol and flicks on the laser light,
only to find out the wal-mart batteries he bought have corroded it out.

Mr. Bayliner...the great offshore boater, plying the deep, dangerous,
and dark waters of...Kansas.

Harry, your (*not* the universal 'your') NPD is in full blossom.

--
John H

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Wishing you Peace, Fellowship, and Good Humor as we celebrate the birth of
OUR Lord, Jesus Christ on the Christmas Holy Day.

Teenagers, Cars and GPS?
 

"Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my manor.
wrote in message ...
JohnH,
Oh I wish Harry would "tumble" with me. ; )

I really don't know what "tumble" means, but it sounds sexual.

Eh?

Teenagers, Cars and GPS?
 

"Lord Reginald Smithers" wrote ...
Our youngest daughter will be turning 16 in Jan. My wife wants to give her a
GPS unit for the car. My wife's logic is she would be a safer driver, if she
didn't knew where she was going, and was not looking for street names and
addresses.

It seems to me that another electronic toy in the car is just another thing to
distract her from watching the road.

Does anyone have any experience with GPS and teenagers?

and

Most importantly, does anyone have any experience buying a handheld unit that
has both maps for city driving and nautical charts?

As the father of 3 twenty-something daughters I think it would have been
interesting to review the breadcrumb trail after some of their outings.

-rick-

Teenagers, Cars and GPS?
 

Yeah, I sure was. I started driving at 13, Had 16 tickets by the time I
was 17. Was on a first-name basis with the two local fuzz that kept
busting me (Kunkel and Deloren-good title for a shoot-em-up cop
show...). I was, and am an exceptionally competent driver, just lacked
self restraint and maturity back then. In those times, no cell phones,
gps, dvd players, sub woofers or"1000 watt" sound systems. Just 100
octane gas, square turns and smoking rear tires.
I have an abundance of faith in our youth. But ADHP disorder and
electronic distractions have no place in a drivers mind, and
unfortunatly our current crop of youth suffer in overwhelming numbers
from both.
JR

Bryan wrote:
"JR North" wrote in message
.. .

Geeez...a cell phone, gps, blabbing friends, blaring tunes...Hope your
insurance is paid up. Oh, and please tell us where she will be driving, so
we can get the hell out of the way.
JR



JR,

You seem to have an absence of faith in our youth. Say it ain't so. I'll
bet you were young once.




--
--------------------------------------------------------------
Home Page: http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth

Teenagers, Cars and GPS?
 

On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 20:40:03 -0500, "Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to
my manor. wrote:

JohnH,
Oh I wish Harry would "tumble" with me. ; )

I really don't know what "tumble" means, but it sounds sexual. Ewwwww, I
think I just had a little vomit come up. The funny thing, I think Harry
believes what he says. He thinks by not responding directly to my posts,
and only responding 2nd hand or with one of his "Macros", that he is
punishing me.


"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 14:17:42 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Don White wrote:
Skipper wrote:
Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:


That might be why they never responded as we talked to them.

I've noticed that Krause does not respond to your posts. Do you have
any
idea why? Did you embarrass him or somethin?

--
Skipper


You're just noticing that now?
Who said you were a bit slow?


Smithers wants sooooo badly for me to give him a tumble, he can almost
taste it. He spends most of his time in rec.boats writing questions to
me that will never be answered, and comments about me that he thinks
will upset me in some way.

If there is a clinical variant of "obsessed asshole," Smithers is its
name.

Skipper, of course, is in a different category. He's sort of outrageous
like NOYB (though not nearly as clever), and as boring in his dogma as
that "other" Dave Hall that used to visit here.

One can imagine Skippy encountering a burglar in his house and telling
the guy to wait while he finds his pistol and flicks on the laser light,
only to find out the wal-mart batteries he bought have corroded it out.

Mr. Bayliner...the great offshore boater, plying the deep, dangerous,
and dark waters of...Kansas.

Harry, your (*not* the universal 'your') NPD is in full blossom.

--
John H

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Wishing you Peace, Fellowship, and Good Humor as we celebrate the birth of
OUR Lord, Jesus Christ on the Christmas Holy Day.


Harry has one thing going for him. He stays around during the weekends and provides entertainment,
whereas Kevin doesn't.

Harry thinks the NPD thing is a joke.

--
John H

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Wishing you Peace, Fellowship, and Good Humor as we celebrate the birth of OUR Lord, Jesus Christ on the Christmas Holy Day.

Teenagers, Cars and GPS?
 

On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 21:23:08 -0500, John H. wrote:

On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 20:40:03 -0500, "Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to
my manor. wrote:

JohnH,
Oh I wish Harry would "tumble" with me. ; )

I really don't know what "tumble" means, but it sounds sexual. Ewwwww, I
think I just had a little vomit come up. The funny thing, I think Harry
believes what he says. He thinks by not responding directly to my posts,
and only responding 2nd hand or with one of his "Macros", that he is
punishing me.


"John H." wrote in message
. ..
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 14:17:42 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Don White wrote:
Skipper wrote:
Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:


That might be why they never responded as we talked to them.

I've noticed that Krause does not respond to your posts. Do you have
any
idea why? Did you embarrass him or somethin?

--
Skipper


You're just noticing that now?
Who said you were a bit slow?


Smithers wants sooooo badly for me to give him a tumble, he can almost
taste it. He spends most of his time in rec.boats writing questions to
me that will never be answered, and comments about me that he thinks
will upset me in some way.

If there is a clinical variant of "obsessed asshole," Smithers is its
name.

Skipper, of course, is in a different category. He's sort of outrageous
like NOYB (though not nearly as clever), and as boring in his dogma as
that "other" Dave Hall that used to visit here.

One can imagine Skippy encountering a burglar in his house and telling
the guy to wait while he finds his pistol and flicks on the laser light,
only to find out the wal-mart batteries he bought have corroded it out.

Mr. Bayliner...the great offshore boater, plying the deep, dangerous,
and dark waters of...Kansas.

Harry, your (*not* the universal 'your') NPD is in full blossom.

--
John H

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Wishing you Peace, Fellowship, and Good Humor as we celebrate the birth of
OUR Lord, Jesus Christ on the Christmas Holy Day.


Harry has one thing going for him. He stays around during the weekends and provides entertainment,
whereas Kevin doesn't.

Harry thinks the NPD thing is a joke.

PS. He's wrong.

--
John H

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Wishing you Peace, Fellowship, and Good Humor as we celebrate the birth of OUR Lord, Jesus Christ on the Christmas Holy Day.

Teenagers, Cars and GPS?
 

Don White wrote:

Bryan wrote:

"Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my
manor. wrote in message ...

JR,
NP, my wife wanted our daughter to learn how to drink coffee while
applying makeup and chatting on the phone all at the same time. I
thought the GPS unit was over the top, but as long as she has a nice
quiet neighborhood to practice in, it probably will be ok.



You forgot to teach her how to eat the Carls Jr. double cheeseburger
without getting food on her clothes!

I read that people were putting DVD players in the front console of
their car. That will be the next problem...best stay off the streets
when the 'soaps' are on.

You can watch "soaps" on a DVD? Is that what you do between posts?

TV, DVD, etc. are illegal if visible by the driver in many states, if
not all, but you already knew that, right?

Teenagers, Cars and GPS?
 

"JR North" wrote in message
...
Yeah, I sure was. I started driving at 13, Had 16 tickets by the time I
was 17. Was on a first-name basis with the two local fuzz that kept
busting me (Kunkel and Deloren-good title for a shoot-em-up cop show...).
I was, and am an exceptionally competent driver, just lacked self
restraint and maturity back then. In those times, no cell phones, gps, dvd
players, sub woofers or"1000 watt" sound systems. Just 100 octane gas,
square turns and smoking rear tires.
I have an abundance of faith in our youth. But ADHP disorder and
electronic distractions have no place in a drivers mind, and unfortunatly
our current crop of youth suffer in overwhelming numbers from both.
JR

I'm glad you have faith in our youth. I've been coaching teens and
pre-teens for about 8 years and whenever I start to think we're all going to
hell I just have to think about the kids I coach and have coached to realize
there are a lot of great kids out there!

The media on the other hand makes it seem like soddom and gomorrah are upon
us.

Teenagers, Cars and GPS?
 

"Dan Krueger" wrote in message
nk.net...
Don White wrote:

Bryan wrote:

"Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my
manor. wrote in message ...

JR,
NP, my wife wanted our daughter to learn how to drink coffee while
applying makeup and chatting on the phone all at the same time. I
thought the GPS unit was over the top, but as long as she has a nice
quiet neighborhood to practice in, it probably will be ok.



You forgot to teach her how to eat the Carls Jr. double cheeseburger
without getting food on her clothes!

I read that people were putting DVD players in the front console of their
car. That will be the next problem...best stay off the streets when the
'soaps' are on.

You can watch "soaps" on a DVD? Is that what you do between posts?

TV, DVD, etc. are illegal if visible by the driver in many states, if not
all, but you already knew that, right?

The illegality of something does not mean it's not happening.