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It is a sad thing when people, full of enough life to determine to go
on a paddling adventure in order to enjoy the beauty of the world
around us, make a bad decision, and someone ends up dead. The others
has to live the rest of their lives with the troubling memory, and the
Guide will forever question his decisions which may put him out of a
job, and facing serious legal consequences. This we can be assured of,
this situation has many mitigating circumstances, but terribly sad
none the less.
Not to disparage the dead, but consider this, two people together, a
49 year old guy with all his attributes, and a 26 year old gal with
all her uh "attributes"
What the christ is taht supposed to mean?
I wonder what I could mean, let me think about it!
Why did you say it if you don't know what it means?
makes for a pretty stupid stew
Please explain. Why does a 49 year old guy and a 26 year old gal make for a
stupider stew than, say, a 22 year old guy and a 30 year old gal?
Didn't say it did, just that this does! There are plenty of other
recipes for stupid stew, that don't use MSG!
Getting back on point, can you please answer the question?
Considering that he was married, the disparity of age, probable difference
in
rank, a long way from home, I expect they may have had other things on
their minds.
What the christ are you talking about?
I wonder what I could mean, let me think about it!
Why did you say it if you don't know what it means?
When the mind process is divided, the thinking gets
muddled and stupid decisions follow. The guide may have recommended
that they use the PFD, but was he in any position to make them put
them on, or even hear his recommedation.
The guide may have never said a damned thing.
He may have, and that would be bad news, but then they may not have
listened anyway if he had!
You have no clue. What is known is that they were novices, they had a guide,
they wore no PFDs, they went to a place where they should nove have been.
Maybe they got in the kayaks, and paddled out on the water.
Apparently they did, unless the guide was a super dude that carried
them on the back of his kayak, and then knocked them off in the heavy
water to drown, except for the 26 year old who just kept swiming back
to his kayak!
I know a 49 year old that was in a similar situation
What situation???
Well since you ask, though I figured out how to be stupid by myself
and without a guide.
I went backcountry skiing by myself, not knowing what I was doing,
where I was going, and I didn't tell anyone else to be watching for
me! Nothing as glorious as an avalange, no, I just fell off the side
of the trail into a treewell, where I landed upside down, with a fully
loaded pack on.
What does this have to do with a couple going kayaking with a guide?
My pack straps were locked, and I could not get it off! My skis were
still on, and would not release, and my feet had somehow got hooked
together with a ski retainer rope. I was hanging there for quite
awhile wondering what to do as I was slowly drowning in a fine
snowfall of snow, and I could have hung there for alot longer, except
that I finally grabbed my knife and started cutting ski retainer
lines, and pack straps. Finally I dropped free into the well, where I
was able to get reorientated, and dug my way out of the well, about a
two hour ordeal, and luckily just a short distance from my car where I
was able to get warmed back up.
I can see the headlines now, "Backcountry skier dies 100 feet from his
Car". Embarassing, stupid, lucky to be alive!
I have a few other stupid moments I could share also, if you would
like. I think the point of my sharing, is that we all do some dumb
things, that when we look back, we realize how stupid and lucky we
are! So when someone ask the question why someone would be so stupid,
I believe we all could fill the bill.
Add the feature of a couple of hot-blooded young adventurers
How do you know they were "hot-blooded young adventurers?" What the hell are
you talking about?
to the
mix, and things can get real exciting. I did not see the Discovery
Channel special about the survival of some seakayakers, which is being
discussed on Paddlewise. If they had been opposite sex, the story
would have been on ABC primetime!
Any chance you can possibly stay on the topic of these two people that died
and your bizarre and unsubstantiated comments about them?
and made similar bad decisions. Luckily, I lived to write this passage,
but I realize
in hind sight just how stupid, and lucky I was! RkyMtnHootOwl OvO
You mean you used to be MORE STUPID than you are now?!?
No, now I am just perfecting it!
There's not much room for improvement.
This is really stretching the imagination.
Oh, sorry about that, overexertion is a problem, for some! Especially
a nonentity cyberidentity who has never done anything really, but
assimilate real people experiences. You can do everything, anything,
perfectly, with no stupid moments! Must be nice! RknMtnHootOwl OvO
Yet another attempt at a dodge.
You've made stupid satement after stupid statement in this thread.