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[email protected] December 7th 05 06:08 PM

OT Strike Two, BushCo
 
IRAQ
Strike Two

This morning, President Bush will make the second of three planned
speeches on Iraq prior to the December 15 elections -- part of what the
Associated Press deems a "public relations campaign" meant to "shore up
slumping public support for the war." His address today will focus on
reconstruction and Iraq's economy. But rather than reassuring Americans
that he recognizes the reality of the challenges we face in Iraq, he
plans to tout purported economic progress and "to highlight rebuilding
of electrical plants, schools, hospitals and businesses." President
Bush is ignoring the big picture. Iraq's reconstruction -- a behemoth
effort on par with the post-World War II Marshall Plan -- is simply not
achieving its goals. Iraq's economy remains weak and beset by
unemployment; basic necessities like potable water and sewage treatment
are scarce; and there remains little evidence that the Bush
administration is prepared to shift course to reverse these trends.

ECONOMIC WOES: President Bush is expected to point today to Iraq's per
capita gross domestic product, which "rose to $942 in 2004 and is
expected to rise to more than $1,000 this year," as a sign of the
country's economic progress. But as Brookings Institution scholar
Michael O'Hanlon argues, "Growing GDP is good for those with access to
the twin golden rivers flowing through Iraq - not the Tigris and
Euphrates, but oil revenue and foreign aid. The rest of the economy is,
on the whole, weak." Unemployment rates hover near 40 percent, meaning
"the insurgency will always find fresh recruits," in Sen. Joseph
Biden's (D-DE) words. And as "the money runs out on the $30 billion
American-financed reconstruction of Iraq, the officials in charge
cannot say how many planned projects they will complete, and there is
no clear source for the hundreds of millions of dollars a year needed
to operate the projects that have been finished." Moreover, serious
challenges remain: "In its September World Economic Outlook, the IMF
also notes that Iraq's new government 'faces daunting medium-term
challenges, including advancing the reconstruction of the country's
infrastructure, reducing macroeconomic instability and developing the
institutions that can support a market-based economy.'"

INFRASTRUCTURE WOES: U.S. goals for electricity and oil infrastructure
reconstruction have not been met. State Department figures show that
power generation, "currently at 4,600 megawatts, has only recently
exceeded the prewar level of 4,400 megawatts. That's still shy of the
6,000 megawatt objective stated by the Coalition Provisional Authority
in September 2003." Most Iraqis continue to have only intermittent
access to electricity, and typically "for just half the day." Daily oil
production in Iraq is currently around 2.14 million barrels -- not only
"less than the average 2.5 million barrels before the 2003 Iraq War,"
but down to the lowest levels in a decade, according to the
London-based Center for Global Energy. "The sluggish production is due
to pipeline attacks by insurgents, poor infrastructure, and lack of
refineries."

WHITE HOUSE WILL NOT KEEP PROMISES TO IRAQIS: Last month, Stuart Bowen,
the special inspector general for Iraq reconstruction, reported that
the "administration promises to use $18 billion Congress allocated to
rebuild water, electricity, health and oil networks to prewar levels or
better are running into cold reality. 'We are going to provide
something less than that,' he said." This position is reflected in last
week's "National Strategy for Victory in Iraq." In what the Washington
Post called "a striking rollback from an earlier, more optimistic
position, the [strategy] says Iraq has the 'potential' to become
prosperous and self-sustaining -- without specifying a time frame."
(This contradicts statements by Deputy Defense Secretary Paul D.
Wolfowitz is 2003 that Iraq's oil revenues "could bring between $50 and
$100 billion over the course of the next two or three years. ... We're
dealing with a country that can really finance its own reconstruction,
and relatively soon.") These are the harsh facts faced by millions of
ordinary Iraqis "who are trying to live a more normal life with the
curse of Saddam Hussein taken away, but with a terrible disappointment
of the expectations that the removal of Saddam Hussein generated have
not been lived up to."

IGNORING LINK BETWEEN SECURITY AND RECONSTRUCTION: The "National
Strategy for Victory in Iraq" released last week ignores the direct
link between security and reconstruction. Loathe to acknowledge the
heavy impact of widespread insurgent violence, the White House document
states that "Iraq is struggling to reach its economic potential due
largely to decades of dictatorship and neglect." This is misleading.
After three years and billions of dollars worth of reconstruction
efforts, it is no longer appropriate to lay the blame for Iraq's
economic woes on the imprisoned tyrant. The prime cause of current
reconstruction woes is the Iraq insurgency, which is not being
countered effectively by the president's current military strategy.
Stuart Bowen's report noted that "more than a quarter of all
reconstruction funds had been spent on security costs to protect
contractors, hundreds of whom have died in Iraq." And as long as Bush
administration refuses to shift our military strategy, both Iraq's
economy and security will suffer. As the International Crisis Group has
pointed out, "Economic hardship and violence (political and criminal)
feed on each other: heightened popular dissatisfaction and unemployment
swell insurgent ranks and the growing insurgency further hampers
development. Without genuine reconstruction and a sustained recovery
plan, any political success will be short-lived."


*JimH* December 7th 05 06:32 PM

OT: A home run for Kevin
 

wrote in message
oups.com...
IRAQ

snip

Kevin, once again congratulations on yet another well written editorial.
Although I disagree with your assumptions, conclusions and theories the
piece was very well written and did not contain the words idiot or stupid
even once. It also was free of vulgar language and personal insults.

Nice job Kevin! Keep it up. ;0(



[email protected] December 7th 05 06:42 PM

OT: A home run for Kevin
 

*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...
IRAQ

snip

Kevin, once again congratulations on yet another well written editorial.
Although I disagree with your assumptions, conclusions and theories the
piece was very well written and did not contain the words idiot or stupid
even once. It also was free of vulgar language and personal insults.

Nice job Kevin! Keep it up. ;0(


I'm not Kevin, idiot.


[email protected] December 7th 05 06:45 PM

OT: A home run for Kevin
 

*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...
IRAQ

snip

Kevin, once again congratulations on yet another well written editorial.
Although I disagree with your assumptions, conclusions and theories the
piece was very well written and did not contain the words idiot or stupid
even once. It also was free of vulgar language and personal insults.

Nice job Kevin! Keep it up. ;0(


By the way, when are YOU going to stop the personal insults? Again,
your childish nature is showing. You think it quite all right for
someone that is in your circle jerk to lie about others, use vulgar
language, personal insults, bring someone's mother into a discussion,
etc. But when it happens to you, you cry like a baby. Why is it that
YOU, Jim, could pose a question to me in a manner that would make
someone think that you know something about a certain behavior, and
then when I do the EXACT same thing to you, you whine, and cry and
threaten to sue? Why is that Jim?


Lord Reginald Smithers December 7th 05 07:07 PM

OT: A home run for Kevin
 
Kevin,
Did JimH make a personal insult by calling you by the name you use on your
email? If so, why did you bother to use that name in your email?


wrote in message
ups.com...

*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...
IRAQ

snip

Kevin, once again congratulations on yet another well written editorial.
Although I disagree with your assumptions, conclusions and theories the
piece was very well written and did not contain the words idiot or stupid
even once. It also was free of vulgar language and personal insults.

Nice job Kevin! Keep it up. ;0(


By the way, when are YOU going to stop the personal insults? Again,
your childish nature is showing. You think it quite all right for
someone that is in your circle jerk to lie about others, use vulgar
language, personal insults, bring someone's mother into a discussion,
etc. But when it happens to you, you cry like a baby. Why is it that
YOU, Jim, could pose a question to me in a manner that would make
someone think that you know something about a certain behavior, and
then when I do the EXACT same thing to you, you whine, and cry and
threaten to sue? Why is that Jim?




Lord Reginald Smithers December 7th 05 07:09 PM

OT Strike Two, BushCo
 
Harry,
I have to admit, this is one of your better insult post. It should real
creativity, instead of just high school insults.

Keep up the good work.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
wrote:
IRAQ
Strike Two

This morning, President Bush will make the second of three planned
speeches on Iraq prior to the December 15 elections


Hey, if we've made so much progress there, how come Bush's supporters in
this newsgroup aren't signing up for civilian rebuilding jobs over there?

I can see them now:

NOYB working as a dentist in one of the torture prisons, drilling holes in
prisoner teeth without benefit of anesthetics...

Fritz lecturing Muslim women that removing their chador and roosari in
public is a "liebral" sin, punishable their choice of being pelted with
stones or having sex with him. (Survey says, 101% chose stoning)...

Smithers repeatedly insulting ayatollahs as they continue to remove his
skin...

The Rev. JimH trying to convert Iraqis to fundie Christianity, with the
promise that he's got 72 former virgins lined up as soon as their open
sores heal...

Robbins...hmmm...Robbins running a database program that counts how many
times he screams as a hot wire is inserted into what's left of his
penis...by US Marines insulted by his claim that he's one of them...

Jackoff...jacking off. What else?

John Herring driving a bright yellow jet fuel truck from the refineries to
the Baghdad airport, and almost making it until the payload of an RPG
passes through one ear, rattles around, and exits by the other ear,
leaving him no more empty-headed than previously so that he can wave the
"Bush 2008" Flag.








Lord Reginald Smithers December 7th 05 07:23 PM

OT Strike Two, BushCo
 

"Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my manor.
wrote in message ...
Harry,
I have to admit, this is one of your better insult post. It SHOWED real
creativity, instead of just high school insults.

Keep up the good work.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
wrote:
IRAQ
Strike Two

This morning, President Bush will make the second of three planned
speeches on Iraq prior to the December 15 elections


Hey, if we've made so much progress there, how come Bush's supporters in
this newsgroup aren't signing up for civilian rebuilding jobs over there?

I can see them now:

NOYB working as a dentist in one of the torture prisons, drilling holes
in prisoner teeth without benefit of anesthetics...

Fritz lecturing Muslim women that removing their chador and roosari in
public is a "liebral" sin, punishable their choice of being pelted with
stones or having sex with him. (Survey says, 101% chose stoning)...

Smithers repeatedly insulting ayatollahs as they continue to remove his
skin...

The Rev. JimH trying to convert Iraqis to fundie Christianity, with the
promise that he's got 72 former virgins lined up as soon as their open
sores heal...

Robbins...hmmm...Robbins running a database program that counts how many
times he screams as a hot wire is inserted into what's left of his
penis...by US Marines insulted by his claim that he's one of them...

Jackoff...jacking off. What else?

John Herring driving a bright yellow jet fuel truck from the refineries
to the Baghdad airport, and almost making it until the payload of an RPG
passes through one ear, rattles around, and exits by the other ear,
leaving him no more empty-headed than previously so that he can wave the
"Bush 2008" Flag.










[email protected] December 7th 05 07:31 PM

OT: A home run for Kevin
 

Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:
Kevin,
Did JimH make a personal insult by calling you by the name you use on your
email? If so, why did you bother to use that name in your email?

I'm not Kevin, you dolt. And I don't use that name in my email. Got it?


*JimH* December 7th 05 08:05 PM

OT: A home run for Kevin
 

wrote in message
ups.com...

*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...
IRAQ

snip

Kevin, once again congratulations on yet another well written editorial.
Although I disagree with your assumptions, conclusions and theories the
piece was very well written and did not contain the words idiot or stupid
even once. It also was free of vulgar language and personal insults.

Nice job Kevin! Keep it up. ;-(


By the way, when are YOU going to stop the personal insults? Again,
your childish nature is showing. You think it quite all right for
someone that is in your circle jerk to lie about others, use vulgar
language, personal insults, bring someone's mother into a discussion,
etc.


Cite a few examples Kevin. I would especially like to see the vulgar
language ones.

So when is your next op ed to be published here?



[email protected] December 7th 05 10:23 PM

OT: A home run for Kevin
 

*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...

*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...
IRAQ

snip

Kevin, once again congratulations on yet another well written editorial.
Although I disagree with your assumptions, conclusions and theories the
piece was very well written and did not contain the words idiot or stupid
even once. It also was free of vulgar language and personal insults.

Nice job Kevin! Keep it up. ;-(


By the way, when are YOU going to stop the personal insults? Again,
your childish nature is showing. You think it quite all right for
someone that is in your circle jerk to lie about others, use vulgar
language, personal insults, bring someone's mother into a discussion,
etc.


Cite a few examples Kevin. I would especially like to see the vulgar
language ones.

So when is your next op ed to be published here?


Are you denying that you've posted lies about me?? Really?
Are you denying that you've positioned questions to me, that when
someone else reads them, they would tend to think that you had some
evidence of something afoul, and then when I do EXACTLY the same thing,
you cry like a baby, and threaten to take legal action? Are you denying
that?
Are you denying that Fritz uses fould language, and personal insults,
and you don't ever say a thing about it. But if someone that isn't in
your circle jerk club does it, you cry foul? Are you denying that?
Are you denying that months ago, you said terrible, untrue, things
about my mother here? Are you denying that?

What it boils down to is your childish position that you and your
buddies can do it, but when it comes back to bite you in the ass, you
whine and cry about it. Grow up. I can give examples of any and all of
the above proving that you are incredibly one sided.


*JimH* December 7th 05 10:28 PM

OT: A home run for Kevin
 

wrote in message
oups.com...

*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...

*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...
IRAQ

snip

Kevin, once again congratulations on yet another well written
editorial.
Although I disagree with your assumptions, conclusions and theories
the
piece was very well written and did not contain the words idiot or
stupid
even once. It also was free of vulgar language and personal insults.

Nice job Kevin! Keep it up. ;-)

By the way, when are YOU going to stop the personal insults? Again,
your childish nature is showing. You think it quite all right for
someone that is in your circle jerk to lie about others, use vulgar
language, personal insults, bring someone's mother into a discussion,
etc.


Cite a few examples Kevin. I would especially like to see the vulgar
language ones.



Still waiting Kevin.



So when is your next op ed to be published here?


Are you denying that you've posted lies about me??



Yes.


Really?



Yes.


Are you denying that you've positioned questions to me, that when
someone else reads them, they would tend to think that you had some
evidence of something afoul, and then when I do EXACTLY the same thing,
you cry like a baby, and threaten to take legal action? Are you denying
that?



Yes.


Are you denying that months ago, you said terrible, untrue, things
about my mother here? Are you denying that?



Yes



What it boils down to is your childish position that you and your
buddies can do it, but when it comes back to bite you in the ass, you
whine and cry about it. Grow up. I can give examples of any and all of
the above proving that you are incredibly one sided.



Great. Please do so Kevin.



John H. December 7th 05 11:04 PM

OT Strike Two, BushCo
 
On Wed, 07 Dec 2005 13:38:34 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:

wrote:
IRAQ
Strike Two

This morning, President Bush will make the second of three planned
speeches on Iraq prior to the December 15 elections


Hey, if we've made so much progress there, how come Bush's supporters in
this newsgroup aren't signing up for civilian rebuilding jobs over there?

I can see them now:

NOYB working as a dentist in one of the torture prisons, drilling holes
in prisoner teeth without benefit of anesthetics...

Fritz lecturing Muslim women that removing their chador and roosari in
public is a "liebral" sin, punishable their choice of being pelted with
stones or having sex with him. (Survey says, 101% chose stoning)...

Smithers repeatedly insulting ayatollahs as they continue to remove his
skin...

The Rev. JimH trying to convert Iraqis to fundie Christianity, with the
promise that he's got 72 former virgins lined up as soon as their open
sores heal...

Robbins...hmmm...Robbins running a database program that counts how many
times he screams as a hot wire is inserted into what's left of his
penis...by US Marines insulted by his claim that he's one of them...

Jackoff...jacking off. What else?

John Herring driving a bright yellow jet fuel truck from the refineries
to the Baghdad airport, and almost making it until the payload of an RPG
passes through one ear, rattles around, and exits by the other ear,
leaving him no more empty-headed than previously so that he can wave the
"Bush 2008" Flag.




Ha! I got the biggest write-up. The rest of you, "Eat your hearts out!"

--
John H

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Wishing you Peace, Fellowship, and Good Humor as we celebrate the birth of OUR Lord, Jesus Christ on the Christmas Holy Day.

John H. December 7th 05 11:07 PM

OT: A home run for Kevin
 
On 7 Dec 2005 14:23:56 -0800, wrote:


*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...

*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...
IRAQ

snip

Kevin, once again congratulations on yet another well written editorial.
Although I disagree with your assumptions, conclusions and theories the
piece was very well written and did not contain the words idiot or stupid
even once. It also was free of vulgar language and personal insults.

Nice job Kevin! Keep it up. ;-(

By the way, when are YOU going to stop the personal insults? Again,
your childish nature is showing. You think it quite all right for
someone that is in your circle jerk to lie about others, use vulgar
language, personal insults, bring someone's mother into a discussion,
etc.


Cite a few examples Kevin. I would especially like to see the vulgar
language ones.

So when is your next op ed to be published here?


Are you denying that you've posted lies about me?? Really?
Are you denying that you've positioned questions to me, that when
someone else reads them, they would tend to think that you had some
evidence of something afoul, and then when I do EXACTLY the same thing,
you cry like a baby, and threaten to take legal action? Are you denying
that?
Are you denying that Fritz uses fould language, and personal insults,
and you don't ever say a thing about it. But if someone that isn't in
your circle jerk club does it, you cry foul? Are you denying that?
Are you denying that months ago, you said terrible, untrue, things
about my mother here? Are you denying that?

What it boils down to is your childish position that you and your
buddies can do it, but when it comes back to bite you in the ass, you
whine and cry about it. Grow up. I can give examples of any and all of
the above proving that you are incredibly one sided.


Was that an op-ed?

--
John H

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Wishing you Peace, Fellowship, and Good Humor as we celebrate the birth of OUR Lord, Jesus Christ on the Christmas Holy Day.

Don White December 7th 05 11:31 PM

OT Strike Two, BushCo
 
Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:
Harry,
I have to admit, this is one of your better insult post. It should real
creativity, instead of just high school insults.

Keep up the good work.


Yes that was humorous.

Lord Reginald Smithers December 7th 05 11:58 PM

OT: A home run for Kevin
 
Kevin,
You used that name (Kevin Noble) in 3 emails to me and many more to at least
6 other people. Do you understand what I am trying to say? (I was using my
best Chris Tucker voice when I wrote that).


wrote in message
oups.com...

Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:
Kevin,
Did JimH make a personal insult by calling you by the name you use on
your
email? If so, why did you bother to use that name in your email?

I'm not Kevin, you dolt. And I don't use that name in my email. Got it?




P. Fritz December 8th 05 04:50 AM

OT: A home run for Kevin
 

"John H." wrote in message
...
On 7 Dec 2005 14:23:56 -0800, wrote:


*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...

*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...
IRAQ

snip

Kevin, once again congratulations on yet another well written

editorial.
Although I disagree with your assumptions, conclusions and theories

the
piece was very well written and did not contain the words idiot or

stupid
even once. It also was free of vulgar language and personal

insults.

Nice job Kevin! Keep it up. ;-(

By the way, when are YOU going to stop the personal insults? Again,
your childish nature is showing. You think it quite all right for
someone that is in your circle jerk to lie about others, use vulgar
language, personal insults, bring someone's mother into a

discussion,
etc.

Cite a few examples Kevin. I would especially like to see the vulgar
language ones.

So when is your next op ed to be published here?


Are you denying that you've posted lies about me?? Really?
Are you denying that you've positioned questions to me, that when
someone else reads them, they would tend to think that you had some
evidence of something afoul, and then when I do EXACTLY the same thing,
you cry like a baby, and threaten to take legal action? Are you denying
that?
Are you denying that Fritz uses fould language, and personal insults,
and you don't ever say a thing about it. But if someone that isn't in
your circle jerk club does it, you cry foul? Are you denying that?
Are you denying that months ago, you said terrible, untrue, things
about my mother here? Are you denying that?

What it boils down to is your childish position that you and your
buddies can do it, but when it comes back to bite you in the ass, you
whine and cry about it. Grow up. I can give examples of any and all of
the above proving that you are incredibly one sided.


Was that an op-ed?



Just once I would like to see kevin come up with an original statement or
opinion.

But not much can be expected from the "King of the NG idiots"


--
John H

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Wishing you Peace, Fellowship, and Good Humor as we celebrate the birth

of OUR Lord, Jesus Christ on the Christmas Holy Day.



[email protected] December 8th 05 01:14 PM

OT: A home run for Kevin
 

Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:
Kevin,
You used that name (Kevin Noble) in 3 emails to me and many more to at least
6 other people. Do you understand what I am trying to say? (I was using my
best Chris Tucker voice when I wrote that).


Are you SO ****ing dumb that you can't figure out one simple, little
thing? I can go to Yahoo, and call myself ANYTHING I so choose. Get it?
It's so simple. I am shocked that you, and JimH, and Dan can't figure
that little thing out! It appears to be uncomprehensible to you. School
aged kids all over can figure it out, but you guys can't!!! Go ahead,
try it. Email me, I'll reply!


Lord Reginald Smithers December 8th 05 01:33 PM

OT: A home run for Kevin
 
Kevin,
My point, and listen carefully now, is if you used the name Kevin Noble when
emailing numerous people in rec.boats, why does it matter if people call you
Kevin or Kevin Noble. That is the name you decided to use, that is the name
we call you.

You may find this hard to believe, but my name is not Lord Reginald
Smithers, but you can feel free to call me your Lordship, Lord Reginald,
Lord Reggie, Lord Smithers, or Your Highness.

For what it is worth, you and Kevin Noble's life has run a parallel path,
including high schools you have both attended, career choices, sister in
laws who have died of the same illness in the exact same city. The craziest
thing, is not only did your lives run parallel, but you actually know Kevin
Noble. That is really freaky isn't it.




wrote in message
oups.com...

Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:
Kevin,
You used that name (Kevin Noble) in 3 emails to me and many more to at
least
6 other people. Do you understand what I am trying to say? (I was using
my
best Chris Tucker voice when I wrote that).


Are you SO ****ing dumb that you can't figure out one simple, little
thing? I can go to Yahoo, and call myself ANYTHING I so choose. Get it?
It's so simple. I am shocked that you, and JimH, and Dan can't figure
that little thing out! It appears to be uncomprehensible to you. School
aged kids all over can figure it out, but you guys can't!!! Go ahead,
try it. Email me, I'll reply!




[email protected] December 8th 05 02:41 PM

OT: A home run for Kevin
 

*JimH* wrote:

Cite a few examples Kevin. I would especially like to see the vulgar
language ones.



Still waiting Kevin.



So when is your next op ed to be published here?


Are you denying that you've posted lies about me??



Yes.


Really?



Yes.


How about this, for a little example. You ADMITTED that you had done
all of the above, and was going to take time off from the newsgroup to
get a grip. What mental problem do you suffer from to forget that so
quickly? Anyway, heres just a few examples:

I said:
What rumors are those? Not only are you a pathetic liar, you must have
mental problems, too. What other fantasies just pop into your head? Are
there voices in your head that tells you those things?


JimH said:
The report in your local rag was about you being caught with another
man and
both of you stoned drunk

Nothing BUT a stone lie FROM YOU.


Are you denying that you've positioned questions to me, that when
someone else reads them, they would tend to think that you had some
evidence of something afoul, and then when I do EXACTLY the same thing,
you cry like a baby, and threaten to take legal action? Are you denying
that?



Yes.


Well, here is one of your questions posed to me in EXACTLY the same
manner in which I posted one to you, and you whined and cried: Don't
remember this either:

JimH said:
I also heard he is trying to stop drinking and is thinking of joining
AA. (Absolute lie from you)

I asked:
Come on, Jim, where did you hear that? Be specific, or be known forever
as a petty liar.

You retorted:
I read it in your local newspaper. (Absolute lie from you)

I asked:
Which paper? What date? Page? Be specific, or be a liar, your choice.

You said:
Nope. I read it in the Gwinnett Citizen. Also, your DWI arrest was
listed on line at the ScanGwinnett Police site. I cannot recall the
date.....it was several months ago. (absolute lie from you)

You said:
I hope he gets help with his drinking problem. I was surprised when I
read
about his DWI at those links. (An absolute lie from you)

Still in denial?

JimH said:
So have you stopped binge drinking? An example of JUST the type of
question Jim whined and threatened to sue over!)

JimH said:
So are the rumors true that you have gay tendencies? An example of JUST
the type of question Jim whined and threatened to sue over!

Are you denying that months ago, you said terrible, untrue, things
about my mother here? Are you denying that?



Yes


Here is where you are such a low life piece of **** that you even
brought my KIDS into a discussion:

JimH asked:
Are you still growing, selling and smoking marijuana? (with absoutely
NO evidence of such behavior)

To which I asked:
What makes you think I ever grew, sold, and smoked marijuana,

Jim replied:
Do you allow your children to smoke it? (can't get much more low life
than that, Jim)

Jim said:

I thought you stopped drinking and smoking dope (with absolutely NO
evidence that I've ever done either)

Jim said:
I am sorry you mom used drugs when she was pregnant with you, but you
should not have abused drugs, it was made it worse ( a complete
fabrication, from you, pretty low, huh?)




What it boils down to is your childish position that you and your
buddies can do it, but when it comes back to bite you in the ass, you
whine and cry about it. Grow up. I can give examples of any and all of
the above proving that you are incredibly one sided.



Great. Please do so Kevin.


See above. If you need more, then ask. I'll leave you with this: IF you
still take the stance that you've never done any of this why did you
publicly apologize for doing exactly what you are claiming that you've
never done, and even said you were going to take time off from the
newsgroup because of your errant behavior?

JimH said:
I also offer my apology to all members of this NG for my recent
indiscretions.

JimH said:
Yep, I lied, but
I admitted to it publicly in this NG...

JimH said:
I hope you read my apology. Although it happened only after being
cornered,
it was sincere. I was cornered and took the wrong road in trying to
explain myself. As a result of that I said things about you that were
not
true and were hurtful. I again apologize to you for that. If there is

anything I should do to restore your reputation here I will do whatever
is
needed.


I know that a hundred apologies will not make up for my indiscretion
but one
more will not hurt. (but you claim not to lie!!)

And this from JimH
I let my emotions overtake common sense and self restraint. If I could
take
back the January, 2006 post I would.

I need time off from this place and will be gone for a while.
Again, my apologies to all.
Jim (if you deny the things I've mentioned, why apologize?)

So, do you still deny all of this, Jim? Remember, anybody can do a
google search, and find it all!!!!


*JimH* December 8th 05 02:55 PM

OT: A home run for Kevin
 

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*JimH* wrote:

Cite a few examples Kevin. I would especially like to see the vulgar
language ones.



Still waiting Kevin.



So when is your next op ed to be published here?

Are you denying that you've posted lies about me??



Yes.


Really?



Yes.


How about this, for a little example. You ADMITTED that you had done
all of the above, and was going to take time off from the newsgroup to
get a grip. What mental problem do you suffer from to forget that so
quickly? Anyway, heres just a few examples:

I said:
What rumors are those? Not only are you a pathetic liar, you must have
mental problems, too. What other fantasies just pop into your head? Are
there voices in your head that tells you those things?


JimH said:
The report in your local rag was about you being caught with another
man and
both of you stoned drunk

Nothing BUT a stone lie FROM YOU.


Are you denying that you've positioned questions to me, that when
someone else reads them, they would tend to think that you had some
evidence of something afoul, and then when I do EXACTLY the same thing,
you cry like a baby, and threaten to take legal action? Are you denying
that?



Yes.


Well, here is one of your questions posed to me in EXACTLY the same
manner in which I posted one to you, and you whined and cried: Don't
remember this either:

JimH said:
I also heard he is trying to stop drinking and is thinking of joining
AA. (Absolute lie from you)

I asked:
Come on, Jim, where did you hear that? Be specific, or be known forever
as a petty liar.

You retorted:
I read it in your local newspaper. (Absolute lie from you)

I asked:
Which paper? What date? Page? Be specific, or be a liar, your choice.

You said:
Nope. I read it in the Gwinnett Citizen. Also, your DWI arrest was
listed on line at the ScanGwinnett Police site. I cannot recall the
date.....it was several months ago. (absolute lie from you)

You said:
I hope he gets help with his drinking problem. I was surprised when I
read
about his DWI at those links. (An absolute lie from you)

Still in denial?

JimH said:
So have you stopped binge drinking? An example of JUST the type of
question Jim whined and threatened to sue over!)

JimH said:
So are the rumors true that you have gay tendencies? An example of JUST
the type of question Jim whined and threatened to sue over!

Are you denying that months ago, you said terrible, untrue, things
about my mother here? Are you denying that?



Yes


So where are the terrible, untrue things I said about your mother Kevin?



Here is where you are such a low life piece of **** that you even
brought my KIDS into a discussion:

JimH asked:
Are you still growing, selling and smoking marijuana? (with absoutely
NO evidence of such behavior)

To which I asked:
What makes you think I ever grew, sold, and smoked marijuana,

Jim replied:
Do you allow your children to smoke it? (can't get much more low life
than that, Jim)

Jim said:

I thought you stopped drinking and smoking dope (with absolutely NO
evidence that I've ever done either)

Jim said:
I am sorry you mom used drugs when she was pregnant with you, but you
should not have abused drugs, it was made it worse ( a complete
fabrication, from you, pretty low, huh?)




What it boils down to is your childish position that you and your
buddies can do it, but when it comes back to bite you in the ass, you
whine and cry about it. Grow up. I can give examples of any and all of
the above proving that you are incredibly one sided.



Great. Please do so Kevin.


See above. If you need more, then ask.



Yes, I posted that about Kevin. But you said you are not Kevin. Are you
now saying you are Kevin?



[email protected] December 8th 05 04:02 PM

OT: A home run for Kevin
 

*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message
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*JimH* wrote:

Cite a few examples Kevin. I would especially like to see the vulgar
language ones.


Still waiting Kevin.



So when is your next op ed to be published here?

Are you denying that you've posted lies about me??


Yes.


Really?


Yes.


How about this, for a little example. You ADMITTED that you had done
all of the above, and was going to take time off from the newsgroup to
get a grip. What mental problem do you suffer from to forget that so
quickly? Anyway, heres just a few examples:

I said:
What rumors are those? Not only are you a pathetic liar, you must have
mental problems, too. What other fantasies just pop into your head? Are
there voices in your head that tells you those things?


JimH said:
The report in your local rag was about you being caught with another
man and
both of you stoned drunk

Nothing BUT a stone lie FROM YOU.


Are you denying that you've positioned questions to me, that when
someone else reads them, they would tend to think that you had some
evidence of something afoul, and then when I do EXACTLY the same thing,
you cry like a baby, and threaten to take legal action? Are you denying
that?


Yes.


Well, here is one of your questions posed to me in EXACTLY the same
manner in which I posted one to you, and you whined and cried: Don't
remember this either:

JimH said:
I also heard he is trying to stop drinking and is thinking of joining
AA. (Absolute lie from you)

I asked:
Come on, Jim, where did you hear that? Be specific, or be known forever
as a petty liar.

You retorted:
I read it in your local newspaper. (Absolute lie from you)

I asked:
Which paper? What date? Page? Be specific, or be a liar, your choice.

You said:
Nope. I read it in the Gwinnett Citizen. Also, your DWI arrest was
listed on line at the ScanGwinnett Police site. I cannot recall the
date.....it was several months ago. (absolute lie from you)

You said:
I hope he gets help with his drinking problem. I was surprised when I
read
about his DWI at those links. (An absolute lie from you)

Still in denial?

JimH said:
So have you stopped binge drinking? An example of JUST the type of
question Jim whined and threatened to sue over!)

JimH said:
So are the rumors true that you have gay tendencies? An example of JUST
the type of question Jim whined and threatened to sue over!

Are you denying that months ago, you said terrible, untrue, things
about my mother here? Are you denying that?


Yes


So where are the terrible, untrue things I said about your mother Kevin?



Here is where you are such a low life piece of **** that you even
brought my KIDS into a discussion:

JimH asked:
Are you still growing, selling and smoking marijuana? (with absoutely
NO evidence of such behavior)

To which I asked:
What makes you think I ever grew, sold, and smoked marijuana,

Jim replied:
Do you allow your children to smoke it? (can't get much more low life
than that, Jim)

Jim said:

I thought you stopped drinking and smoking dope (with absolutely NO
evidence that I've ever done either)

Jim said:
I am sorry you mom used drugs when she was pregnant with you, but you
should not have abused drugs, it was made it worse ( a complete
fabrication, from you, pretty low, huh?)




What it boils down to is your childish position that you and your
buddies can do it, but when it comes back to bite you in the ass, you
whine and cry about it. Grow up. I can give examples of any and all of
the above proving that you are incredibly one sided.


Great. Please do so Kevin.


See above. If you need more, then ask.



Yes, I posted that about Kevin. But you said you are not Kevin. Are you
now saying you are Kevin?


You aren't very bright are you? YOU REPLY TO ME. The only error is that
you call me Kevin. BUT, you are so stupid, you don't understand that by
REPLYING TO ME, you are, indeed, doing those things TO ME.

Here is just one little thing you've said about me dead mother, low
life. There are plenty more, want me to give some more examples?
I am sorry you mom used drugs when she was pregnant with you, but you
should not have abused drugs, it was made it worse ( a complete
fabrication, from you, pretty low, huh?)


Now, you've gone and proved yourself worthy of being nothing but a low
life liar again by denying you've ever said anything like that. I've
proven you lied about any and all of the above. You should be ashamed
of yourself. You chastise others, and you do things that are lower than
anyone else here. You know you have, you've publicily apologized for
it. And then, because you are a chronic liar, turn around and deny that
you've ever said thoset things!!!! Unbelievable!


*JimH* December 8th 05 04:20 PM

OT: A home run for Kevin
 

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Yes, I posted that about Kevin. But you said you are not Kevin. Are you
now saying you are Kevin?


You aren't very bright are you? YOU REPLY TO ME. The only error is that
you call me Kevin. BUT, you are so stupid, you don't understand that by
REPLYING TO ME, you are, indeed, doing those things TO ME.

Here is just one little thing you've said about me dead mother, low
life. There are plenty more, want me to give some more examples?


Yes, please do.

I am sorry you mom used drugs when she was pregnant with you, but you
should not have abused drugs, it was made it worse ( a complete
fabrication, from you, pretty low, huh?)



Yes, I said that about Kevins mother after he hinted his mother took drugs.



Now, you've gone and proved yourself worthy of being nothing but a low
life liar again by denying you've ever said anything like that. I've
proven you lied about any and all of the above. You should be ashamed
of yourself. You chastise others, and you do things that are lower than
anyone else here. You know you have, you've publicily apologized for
it. And then, because you are a chronic liar, turn around and deny that
you've ever said thoset things!!!! Unbelievable!


Are you serving *buggers* for your Christmas dinner? You never did explain
what they are but hinted that kids love them. I am sure your family and
guest would love to see a plate full of *buggers* on your Christmas dinner
table.

Learn to relax Kevin. Breath in ..........breath out............breath
in............breath out...........think joyous thoughts, like eating
*buggers* with your family.



[email protected] December 8th 05 06:03 PM

OT: A home run for Kevin
 

*JimH* wrote:
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Yes, I posted that about Kevin. But you said you are not Kevin. Are you
now saying you are Kevin?


You aren't very bright are you? YOU REPLY TO ME. The only error is that
you call me Kevin. BUT, you are so stupid, you don't understand that by
REPLYING TO ME, you are, indeed, doing those things TO ME.

Here is just one little thing you've said about me dead mother, low
life. There are plenty more, want me to give some more examples?


Yes, please do.


Why, I've proven you are a low life liar.

I am sorry you mom used drugs when she was pregnant with you, but you
should not have abused drugs, it was made it worse ( a complete
fabrication, from you, pretty low, huh?)



Yes, I said that about Kevins mother after he hinted his mother took drugs.


Please show where Kevin "hinted his mother took drugs". Again, liar.



Now, you've gone and proved yourself worthy of being nothing but a low
life liar again by denying you've ever said anything like that. I've
proven you lied about any and all of the above. You should be ashamed
of yourself. You chastise others, and you do things that are lower than
anyone else here. You know you have, you've publicily apologized for
it. And then, because you are a chronic liar, turn around and deny that
you've ever said thoset things!!!! Unbelievable!


Are you serving *buggers* for your Christmas dinner? You never did explain
what they are but hinted that kids love them. I am sure your family and
guest would love to see a plate full of *buggers* on your Christmas dinner
table.


Hmm, can't figure it out, huh? I guess being stuck in Cleveland and not
travelling does that. But, nice try, but please, don't get off the
subject. You are a low life liar. I've showne where you've lied, said
dispicable things about me, my mother, and then had the low life
audacity to DENY you've ever done such, when you publicly apologized
for doing it!!!

Learn to relax Kevin. Breath in ..........breath out............breath
in............breath out...........think joyous thoughts, like eating
*buggers* with your family.


What an ignorant low life piece fo crap you are. You've been proven as
such right here in this thread. Grow up, you brainless little ****
stain. You whine like a little baby when someone says something about
you or your family, then turn around and act like such a scum that you
actually say unfounded, nasty, petty things about someone's dead
mother. People need to see you for what you really are, a worthless
piece of crap. Go show your wife what nasty, ****ty little things
you've done. I'll bet she'd be agast and shocked at what a low life you
really are.


*JimH* December 8th 05 06:10 PM

OT: A home run for Kevin
 

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Learn to relax Kevin. Breath in ..........breath out............breath
in............breath out...........think joyous thoughts, like eating
*buggers* with your family.


What an ignorant low life piece fo crap you are. You've been proven as
such right here in this thread. Grow up, you brainless little ****
stain. You whine like a little baby when someone says something about
you or your family, then turn around and act like such a scum that you
actually say unfounded, nasty, petty things about someone's dead
mother. People need to see you for what you really are, a worthless
piece of crap. Go show your wife what nasty, ****ty little things
you've done. I'll bet she'd be agast and shocked at what a low life you
really are.


You need psychiatric help. I hope you seek it.



*JimH* December 8th 05 06:16 PM

OT: A home run for Kevin
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Learn to relax Kevin. Breath in ..........breath out............breath
in............breath out...........think joyous thoughts, like eating
*buggers* with your family.
What an ignorant low life piece fo crap you are. You've been proven as
such right here in this thread. Grow up, you brainless little ****
stain. You whine like a little baby when someone says something about
you or your family, then turn around and act like such a scum that you
actually say unfounded, nasty, petty things about someone's dead
mother. People need to see you for what you really are, a worthless
piece of crap. Go show your wife what nasty, ****ty little things
you've done. I'll bet she'd be agast and shocked at what a low life you
really are.


You need psychiatric help. I hope you seek it.

You don't really think you are on the high ground, do you, Jim?



Compared to you, definitely.

Compared to Kevin, absolutely.



*JimH* December 8th 05 06:28 PM

OT: A home run for Kevin
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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*JimH* wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Learn to relax Kevin. Breath in ..........breath
out............breath
in............breath out...........think joyous thoughts, like eating
*buggers* with your family.
What an ignorant low life piece fo crap you are. You've been proven as
such right here in this thread. Grow up, you brainless little ****
stain. You whine like a little baby when someone says something about
you or your family, then turn around and act like such a scum that you
actually say unfounded, nasty, petty things about someone's dead
mother. People need to see you for what you really are, a worthless
piece of crap. Go show your wife what nasty, ****ty little things
you've done. I'll bet she'd be agast and shocked at what a low life
you
really are.

You need psychiatric help. I hope you seek it.
You don't really think you are on the high ground, do you, Jim?



Compared to you, definitely.

Compared to Kevin, absolutely.


Have you been screen for psychosis? Remember, you think you can win a
libel suit based upon comments here aimed in your direction for remarks
you tossed at your alleged perpetrator.


I never said that Harry.

You're got a really short fuse and a demonstrated inability to read
carefully or, worse, understand what you read. Lots of examples.


As with you also.

Here are Kevins:

12-8-05

Are you SO ****ing dumb that you can't figure out one simple, little thing?



I'm not Kevin, you low life liar.



I'm not Kevin, you dolt.



Crap, I knew you wouldn't be bright enough to figure it out!



Unless, of course you are just posting in ignorance, as usual.



You aren't very bright are you?



What an ignorant low life piece fo crap you are. You've been proven as such
right here in this thread.



I'm not Kevin, but you are dumb as a post:



Grow up, you brainless little **** stain.



BUT, you are so stupid, you don't understand that by REPLYING TO ME, you
are, indeed, doing those things TO ME.





12-7-05

By the way, when are YOU going to stop the personal insults?



Are you REALLY that stupid??



I'm not Kevin, idiot.



Then grow up, and quit trying to follow in JimH's and John and Fritz's
footsteps as "I can do it, but if you do, you're evil" bull****.



I'm not Kevin, you dip****.



Why is it that you chastise some people for insults, when YOU insult?



All of them, but I think you have to come to terms with your liquor
demons first.



Dislexics of the world, untie! (I just had to throw this one in.)



I'm not Kevin, you dolt.



According to one of your circle jerk buddies, Smithers, you must obtain
direct
permission from the author. Or is that just another of the examples of
you and your circle jerk club don't have to, but the ones you don't
agree with must?? Pretty childish, wouldn't you say?



No, you idiot, those assumptions were made by ME



You're easily amused. Smithers lies, then you eat it like a kid eating
a bugger.



Get off your high horse. You're starting to act like a pesky
little gnat. Nothing to worry about, but just a bother.



Don't cry, John....your whining is pathetic. Go have another drink.



12-6-05

You must be one lousy chess player to make an ignorant statement like
that!



I know that your comrehension and over all understanding of a thread is
hard what with your excessive alcohol abuse and all, but please, try to
stay with the topic.



You are acting like a silly little kid.



It is, this group's reasons, however ARE stupid, ignorant, hate filled
and prejudice.



Now again, I posed a question just EXACTLY like you
and Fritz, and you went off the freakin' meter!!! But, you seem to
think it's acceptable for you and Fritz to do EXACTLY the same thing.
How is this?



Are you going to explain why when you demean and denigrate others, it's
okay, but when someone not in your circle jerk club do it, it's bad?



I'm not Kevin you idiot.





12-5-05 (Kevin behaved today).

Sorry, John, you're still an idiot





12-2-05

How's THAT for a childish buffoon!!



Old Jim doesn't even
realize what an idiot he's being!!



Jim's like that, it's just more of his childish antics. I think I've
solved it. He is a child messing with his parent's computer. It makes
sense. The moped, his childish actions here, his holier-than-thou
attitude, his petty name calling and lies.......



No, let me explain it to YOU, asshole. I"m not Kevin.



Care to answer that, you little twerp?



I'm not Kevin, little boy (or girl?) Now, I know that you're still in
grade school, but if you want to play here, please learn to read.



Notice that your circle jerk buddy didn't ask what new features there
were, etc.



Why is it that you can't act like an adult? Come to think of it, the moped
thing
makes sense. As does your spineless back down when I offered to meet
you last summer. You're actually a kid trying to act grown up on
mommy's computer, aren't you?



Fritz, I"m glad that you've realized your problem, and good luck with
your recovery.



But, funny thing is, all of the chastising
he does, it's quite all right if one of his circle jerk members, or he
does it.



As do you and the rest of your circle jerk club, especially JimH, the
child/man



11-29-05 to 21-2-05
What else have you "contributed" to this newsgroup besides insults and lies?

Congratulations, you've proven yourself a bigger asshole than most expected.
What a ****y little twit you are.

you idiot.

Just another example of the Republicans being the *Pigs at the Trough
Party*!

you idiot.

Hmm, this from a person who constantly whines about others cut and
pasting......

you idiot.

your still acting like a spoiled little child.

See, you're very good at proving yourself a childish idiot!!!

you idiot.

Well, are you going to answer, idiot?

Uh, before you start that drivel, you'd be best to do some checking, or else
you'll make yourself look REALLY dumb!

you idiot.

Damn you are a simpleton aren't you?

you childish little twit.

You see, anyone with any brains that was trying to act childish like you,
would ask the question in a manner that wouldn't implicate them.

you idiot.

I love it when you act so stupid!!

What a dolt!

Grow up. I mean, you are so childish

you idiot.

I'll try to dumb it down even more for you.

I know you're not too bright, and thus don't understand things well

YOU, you dumb idiot

God DAMN!!!!! How ****ing stupid are you?

you idiot.

Oh, please, do tell the group! OR, is it that you are posting ignorantly?

you idiot.

I take it you don't comprehend well, huh?

I don't you idiot.

I don't understand how someone can be as stupid as you seem to be.

you idiot.

you are useless as ahuman being.

if you keep THAT **** up, next time I'm in Cleveland, I'll look you up no
matter what little pussy excuse
you'll come up with.

**** you.

What a spineless little asshole you are.

you idiot.

you dumb ****.

Do it, or are you scared that you'll find out just how stupid you are, and
how childish you sound?









P Fritz December 8th 05 06:44 PM

OT: A home run for Kevin
 

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Learn to relax Kevin. Breath in ..........breath out............breath
in............breath out...........think joyous thoughts, like eating
*buggers* with your family.


What an ignorant low life piece fo crap you are. You've been proven as
such right here in this thread. Grow up, you brainless little ****
stain. You whine like a little baby when someone says something about
you or your family, then turn around and act like such a scum that you
actually say unfounded, nasty, petty things about someone's dead
mother. People need to see you for what you really are, a worthless
piece of crap. Go show your wife what nasty, ****ty little things
you've done. I'll bet she'd be agast and shocked at what a low life you
really are.


You need psychiatric help. I hope you seek it.


Kevin is projecting again






*JimH* December 8th 05 07:31 PM

OT: A home run for Kevin
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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*JimH* wrote:

I never said that Harry.

You're got a really short fuse and a demonstrated inability to read
carefully or, worse, understand what you read. Lots of examples.


As with you also.


Yeah, sure, Jim.
Tell you what...deal with it...or don't.
I don't give a crap one way or the other.
But you do.

Why do you have to bore all of us with daily whining complaints of yours?


I don't. You seem to be the one doing the whining and complaining.



Frankly, I don't see any difference between the posts of the guy you are
whining about and your posts.



Then you are blind Harry.



There are a couple of assholes here who rave on and on and on about me,
and all they get in response when I bother to respond at all is a macro.

If you think Bass falls into that category, give him the Smithers
treatment.



I guess telling Kevin he needs psychiatric help struck a bit too close to
home for you Harry..........eh?



Lord Reginald Smithers December 8th 05 07:35 PM

OT: A home run for Kevin
 
Harry,
I hate to tell you this, but that used to be your favorite trick, but you
would say you showed your wife the posts, and she said "you are mentally
ill".


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Learn to relax Kevin. Breath in ..........breath out............breath
in............breath out...........think joyous thoughts, like eating
*buggers* with your family.
What an ignorant low life piece fo crap you are. You've been proven as
such right here in this thread. Grow up, you brainless little ****
stain. You whine like a little baby when someone says something about
you or your family, then turn around and act like such a scum that you
actually say unfounded, nasty, petty things about someone's dead
mother. People need to see you for what you really are, a worthless
piece of crap. Go show your wife what nasty, ****ty little things
you've done. I'll bet she'd be agast and shocked at what a low life you
really are.


You need psychiatric help. I hope you seek it.

You don't really think you are on the high ground, do you, Jim?

--
Bush: Always Wrong, Never in Doubt.




*JimH* December 8th 05 07:56 PM

OT: A home run for Kevin
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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*JimH* wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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*JimH* wrote:

I never said that Harry.

You're got a really short fuse and a demonstrated inability to read
carefully or, worse, understand what you read. Lots of examples.
As with you also.

Yeah, sure, Jim.
Tell you what...deal with it...or don't.
I don't give a crap one way or the other.
But you do.

Why do you have to bore all of us with daily whining complaints of
yours?


I don't. You seem to be the one doing the whining and complaining.



You whine and whine and whine, and threaten lawsuits and threaten
lawsuits, and "call the secret service" and on and on and on, and take
offense, and so forth and so on. You may not see it, but that is what you
do.



Frankly, I don't see any difference between the posts of the guy you are
whining about and your posts.



Then you are blind Harry.


All I see from you is endless whining and offense-taking.



Then don't read my posts.






There are a couple of assholes here who rave on and on and on about me,
and all they get in response when I bother to respond at all is a macro.

If you think Bass falls into that category, give him the Smithers
treatment.



I guess telling Kevin he needs psychiatric help struck a bit too close to
home for you Harry..........eh?


Puh-lease.



Time for you to look in the mirror Harry. You may not see it, but most
everyone else here does.



There isn't a right-winger posting here who has the dimmest understanding
of serious psychiatric disorders. Anyone can look up crap and repost it, as
you, Smithers, Fritz, and Herring the Drooler do.



Do you mean like the political cut and pastes you and Kevin make here daily
or the psychiatric symptoms that Paul and Smithers post that seem to fit you
like a tee? NPD, narcissism, etc.....


Several of you are more bizarre than anyone you write about here.



Time for you to look in the mirror Harry. Been to alt.obituaries lately?



Lord Reginald Smithers December 8th 05 08:13 PM

OT: A home run for Kevin
 
Harry,

I thought you started visiting alt.obits so you could insult MadCow.

Since she has left, the only contributions you make in alt.obits is to
insult the republicans and libertarians.

Tell us about how well read you are.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
*JimH* wrote:


Do you mean like the political cut and pastes you and Kevin make here
daily or the psychiatric symptoms that Paul and Smithers post that seem
to fit you like a tee? NPD, narcissism, etc.....



Fritz and Smithers are trash; they make no contributions here of any sort.
I'm glad they're your pals. At least Herring, another rightie, makes an
occasional on-topic and interesting boating or fishing post once in a
while. I have no idea why most of you righties are here; boaters you are
not.




Several of you are more bizarre than anyone you write about here.



Time for you to look in the mirror Harry. Been to alt.obituaries lately?


Sure. I have several buddies in there. Many of the posters in that
newsgroup are educated and informed, and are interested in history and
Hollywood and baseball, which happen to be three of my interests. I got my
start in the newspaper biz writing obits for a major US newspaper, and
learned to appreciate the literary device for the way it could reflect
societal and personal history, and give insight into a person's life.

I have a feeling you're not much of a reader, and with one or two
exceptions, most of your right-wing buddies on rec.boats aren't, either.
It shows in their lack of writing skills.




--
SUPPORT BUSH'S ENEMIES BUY CITGO GAS.




John H. December 8th 05 08:42 PM

OT: A home run for Kevin
 
On 8 Dec 2005 06:41:56 -0800, wrote:


*JimH* wrote:

Cite a few examples Kevin. I would especially like to see the vulgar
language ones.



Still waiting Kevin.



So when is your next op ed to be published here?

Are you denying that you've posted lies about me??



Yes.


Really?



Yes.


How about this, for a little example. You ADMITTED that you had done
all of the above, and was going to take time off from the newsgroup to
get a grip. What mental problem do you suffer from to forget that so
quickly? Anyway, heres just a few examples:

I said:
What rumors are those? Not only are you a pathetic liar, you must have
mental problems, too. What other fantasies just pop into your head? Are
there voices in your head that tells you those things?


JimH said:
The report in your local rag was about you being caught with another
man and
both of you stoned drunk

Nothing BUT a stone lie FROM YOU.


Are you denying that you've positioned questions to me, that when
someone else reads them, they would tend to think that you had some
evidence of something afoul, and then when I do EXACTLY the same thing,
you cry like a baby, and threaten to take legal action? Are you denying
that?



Yes.


Well, here is one of your questions posed to me in EXACTLY the same
manner in which I posted one to you, and you whined and cried: Don't
remember this either:

JimH said:
I also heard he is trying to stop drinking and is thinking of joining
AA. (Absolute lie from you)

I asked:
Come on, Jim, where did you hear that? Be specific, or be known forever
as a petty liar.

You retorted:
I read it in your local newspaper. (Absolute lie from you)

I asked:
Which paper? What date? Page? Be specific, or be a liar, your choice.

You said:
Nope. I read it in the Gwinnett Citizen. Also, your DWI arrest was
listed on line at the ScanGwinnett Police site. I cannot recall the
date.....it was several months ago. (absolute lie from you)

You said:
I hope he gets help with his drinking problem. I was surprised when I
read
about his DWI at those links. (An absolute lie from you)

Still in denial?

JimH said:
So have you stopped binge drinking? An example of JUST the type of
question Jim whined and threatened to sue over!)

JimH said:
So are the rumors true that you have gay tendencies? An example of JUST
the type of question Jim whined and threatened to sue over!

Are you denying that months ago, you said terrible, untrue, things
about my mother here? Are you denying that?



Yes


Here is where you are such a low life piece of **** that you even
brought my KIDS into a discussion:

JimH asked:
Are you still growing, selling and smoking marijuana? (with absoutely
NO evidence of such behavior)

To which I asked:
What makes you think I ever grew, sold, and smoked marijuana,

Jim replied:
Do you allow your children to smoke it? (can't get much more low life
than that, Jim)

Jim said:

I thought you stopped drinking and smoking dope (with absolutely NO
evidence that I've ever done either)

Jim said:
I am sorry you mom used drugs when she was pregnant with you, but you
should not have abused drugs, it was made it worse ( a complete
fabrication, from you, pretty low, huh?)




What it boils down to is your childish position that you and your
buddies can do it, but when it comes back to bite you in the ass, you
whine and cry about it. Grow up. I can give examples of any and all of
the above proving that you are incredibly one sided.



Great. Please do so Kevin.


See above. If you need more, then ask. I'll leave you with this: IF you
still take the stance that you've never done any of this why did you
publicly apologize for doing exactly what you are claiming that you've
never done, and even said you were going to take time off from the
newsgroup because of your errant behavior?

JimH said:
I also offer my apology to all members of this NG for my recent
indiscretions.

JimH said:
Yep, I lied, but
I admitted to it publicly in this NG...

JimH said:
I hope you read my apology. Although it happened only after being
cornered,
it was sincere. I was cornered and took the wrong road in trying to
explain myself. As a result of that I said things about you that were
not
true and were hurtful. I again apologize to you for that. If there is

anything I should do to restore your reputation here I will do whatever
is
needed.


I know that a hundred apologies will not make up for my indiscretion
but one
more will not hurt. (but you claim not to lie!!)

And this from JimH
I let my emotions overtake common sense and self restraint. If I could
take
back the January, 2006 post I would.

I need time off from this place and will be gone for a while.
Again, my apologies to all.
Jim (if you deny the things I've mentioned, why apologize?)

So, do you still deny all of this, Jim? Remember, anybody can do a
google search, and find it all!!!!


Kevin, haven't you been making comments about me and booze? Are *you* being a little hypocritical
here?

BTW, apparently you missed this post from his Royal Highness:

********************************************
Kevin,
My point, and listen carefully now, is if you used the name Kevin Noble when
emailing numerous people in rec.boats, why does it matter if people call you
Kevin or Kevin Noble. That is the name you decided to use, that is the name
we call you.

You may find this hard to believe, but my name is not Lord Reginald
Smithers, but you can feel free to call me your Lordship, Lord Reginald,
Lord Reggie, Lord Smithers, or Your Highness.

For what it is worth, you and Kevin Noble's life has run a parallel path,
including high schools you have both attended, career choices, sister in
laws who have died of the same illness in the exact same city. The craziest
thing, is not only did your lives run parallel, but you actually know Kevin
Noble. That is really freaky isn't it.
*****************************************

You've been presented this information many times, but choose to not answer it. Is it fear on your
part?

--
John H

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Wishing you Peace, Fellowship, and Good Humor as we celebrate the birth of OUR Lord, Jesus Christ on the Christmas Holy Day.

John H. December 8th 05 08:45 PM

OT: A home run for Kevin
 
On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 14:29:05 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:

*JimH* wrote:

I never said that Harry.

You're got a really short fuse and a demonstrated inability to read
carefully or, worse, understand what you read. Lots of examples.


As with you also.



Yeah, sure, Jim.
Tell you what...deal with it...or don't.
I don't give a crap one way or the other.
But you do.

Why do you have to bore all of us with daily whining complaints of yours?

Frankly, I don't see any difference between the posts of the guy you are
whining about and your posts.

There are a couple of assholes here who rave on and on and on about me,
and all they get in response when I bother to respond at all is a macro.

If you think Bass falls into that category, give him the Smithers
treatment.


If you care so little, Harold, why all the verbiage supporting Kevin?

--
John H

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Wishing you Peace, Fellowship, and Good Humor as we celebrate the birth of OUR Lord, Jesus Christ on the Christmas Holy Day.

P. Fritz December 8th 05 11:51 PM

OT: A home run for Kevin
 
"narcissists hate their real selves, they don't want to change -- they
want the world to change. And they criticize, gripe, and complain about
almost everything and almost everyone almost all the time. There are
usually
a favored few whom narcissists regard as absolutely above reproach, even
for
egregious misconduct or actual crime, and about whom they won't brook the
slightest criticism. These are people the narcissists are terrified of,
though they'll tell you that what they feel is love and respect;
apparently
they don't know the difference between fear and love. Narcissists just get
worse and worse as they grow older; their parents and other authority
figures that they've feared die off, and there's less and less outside
influence to keep them in check"

"Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my
manor. wrote in message
...
Harry,

I thought you started visiting alt.obits so you could insult MadCow.

Since she has left, the only contributions you make in alt.obits is to
insult the republicans and libertarians.

Tell us about how well read you are.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
*JimH* wrote:


Do you mean like the political cut and pastes you and Kevin make here
daily or the psychiatric symptoms that Paul and Smithers post that

seem
to fit you like a tee? NPD, narcissism, etc.....



Fritz and Smithers are trash; they make no contributions here of any

sort.
I'm glad they're your pals. At least Herring, another rightie, makes an
occasional on-topic and interesting boating or fishing post once in a
while. I have no idea why most of you righties are here; boaters you

are
not.




Several of you are more bizarre than anyone you write about here.



Time for you to look in the mirror Harry. Been to alt.obituaries

lately?

Sure. I have several buddies in there. Many of the posters in that
newsgroup are educated and informed, and are interested in history and
Hollywood and baseball, which happen to be three of my interests. I got

my
start in the newspaper biz writing obits for a major US newspaper, and
learned to appreciate the literary device for the way it could reflect
societal and personal history, and give insight into a person's life.

I have a feeling you're not much of a reader, and with one or two
exceptions, most of your right-wing buddies on rec.boats aren't,

either.
It shows in their lack of writing skills.




--
SUPPORT BUSH'S ENEMIES BUY CITGO GAS.






P. Fritz December 8th 05 11:56 PM

OT: A home run for Kevin
 
"The other "punishment" narcissists mete out is banishing you from their
glorious presence"

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 14:29:05 -0500, Harry Krause

wrote:

*JimH* wrote:

I never said that Harry.

You're got a really short fuse and a demonstrated inability to read
carefully or, worse, understand what you read. Lots of examples.

As with you also.



Yeah, sure, Jim.
Tell you what...deal with it...or don't.
I don't give a crap one way or the other.
But you do.

Why do you have to bore all of us with daily whining complaints of

yours?

Frankly, I don't see any difference between the posts of the guy you are
whining about and your posts.

There are a couple of assholes here who rave on and on and on about me,
and all they get in response when I bother to respond at all is a macro.

If you think Bass falls into that category, give him the Smithers
treatment.


If you care so little, Harold, why all the verbiage supporting Kevin?

--
John H

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Wishing you Peace, Fellowship, and Good Humor as we celebrate the birth

of OUR Lord, Jesus Christ on the Christmas Holy Day.



[email protected] December 9th 05 01:01 PM

OT: A home run for Kevin
 

*JimH* wrote:
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*JimH* wrote:
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*JimH* wrote:
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Learn to relax Kevin. Breath in ..........breath out............breath
in............breath out...........think joyous thoughts, like eating
*buggers* with your family.


What an ignorant low life piece fo crap you are. You've been proven as
such right here in this thread. Grow up, you brainless little ****
stain. You whine like a little baby when someone says something about
you or your family, then turn around and act like such a scum that you
actually say unfounded, nasty, petty things about someone's dead
mother. People need to see you for what you really are, a worthless
piece of crap. Go show your wife what nasty, ****ty little things
you've done. I'll bet she'd be agast and shocked at what a low life you
really are.


You need psychiatric help. I hope you seek it.


Hmm, let's recap, shall we? I've proven you a liar. I've proven that
you'll go as low as a human being can possibly go to TRY to win an
argument. I"ve proven that you chastise others for saying and doing
EXACTLY as you do, while letting people in your circle jerk club do it
constantly. Now, who do you think needs help? Really, Jim, do the test,
show your wife all of your posts to me, the ones where you claim to
have knowledge that my mother used drugs (still waiting for you to find
where I ever said anything remotely like that), show her the posts of
you lying lie after lie about me, for weeks. Show her where you've
posted questions to me in a manner that would tend to make someone
think that you had some evidence of certain behaviors, then show her
when someone does exactly the same thing to you, you go nuts. If she is
any kind of decent human, she'll be agast at your behavior. Try it.


*JimH* December 9th 05 01:45 PM

OT: A home run for Kevin
 

wrote in message
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*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message
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*JimH* wrote:
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*JimH* wrote:
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big snip)


Learn to relax Kevin. Breath in ..........breath
out............breath
in............breath out...........think joyous thoughts, like eating
*buggers* with your family.

What an ignorant low life piece fo crap you are. You've been proven as
such right here in this thread. Grow up, you brainless little ****
stain. You whine like a little baby when someone says something about
you or your family, then turn around and act like such a scum that you
actually say unfounded, nasty, petty things about someone's dead
mother. People need to see you for what you really are, a worthless
piece of crap. Go show your wife what nasty, ****ty little things
you've done. I'll bet she'd be agast and shocked at what a low life you
really are.


You need psychiatric help. I hope you seek it.


Hmm, let's recap, shall we? I've proven you a liar. I've proven that
you'll go as low as a human being can possibly go to TRY to win an
argument. I"ve proven that you chastise others for saying and doing
EXACTLY as you do, while letting people in your circle jerk club do it
constantly. Now, who do you think needs help? Really, Jim, do the test,
show your wife all of your posts to me, the ones where you claim to
have knowledge that my mother used drugs (still waiting for you to find
where I ever said anything remotely like that), show her the posts of
you lying lie after lie about me, for weeks. Show her where you've
posted questions to me in a manner that would tend to make someone
think that you had some evidence of certain behaviors, then show her
when someone does exactly the same thing to you, you go nuts. If she is
any kind of decent human, she'll be agast at your behavior. Try it.


I did. And all she said was "Those were all about Kevin....I thought
alt_man said he was not Kevin, so why is he complaining?"

Kevin, did you ever let you family smoke the marijuana you grow or is it
strictly a cash crop?



*JimH* December 9th 05 01:59 PM

OT: A home run for Kevin
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
*JimH* wrote:

Really, Jim, do the test,
show your wife all of your posts to me, the ones where you claim to
have knowledge that my mother used drugs (still waiting for you to find
where I ever said anything remotely like that), show her the posts of
you lying lie after lie about me, for weeks. Show her where you've
posted questions to me in a manner that would tend to make someone
think that you had some evidence of certain behaviors, then show her
when someone does exactly the same thing to you, you go nuts. If she is
any kind of decent human, she'll be agast at your behavior. Try it.




I did. And all she said was "Those were all about Kevin....I thought
alt_man said he was not Kevin, so why is he complaining?"


Kevin, did you ever let you family smoke the marijuana you grow or is it
strictly a cash crop?




Are you accusing someone here of growing illegal drugs for resale?



Yes Harry, I am accusing Kevin.



*JimH* December 9th 05 02:05 PM

OT: A home run for Kevin
 

" *JimH*" wrote in message
...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
*JimH* wrote:

Really, Jim, do the test,
show your wife all of your posts to me, the ones where you claim to
have knowledge that my mother used drugs (still waiting for you to
find
where I ever said anything remotely like that), show her the posts of
you lying lie after lie about me, for weeks. Show her where you've
posted questions to me in a manner that would tend to make someone
think that you had some evidence of certain behaviors, then show her
when someone does exactly the same thing to you, you go nuts. If she
is
any kind of decent human, she'll be agast at your behavior. Try it.



I did. And all she said was "Those were all about Kevin....I thought
alt_man said he was not Kevin, so why is he complaining?"


Kevin, did you ever let you family smoke the marijuana you grow or is it
strictly a cash crop?




Are you accusing someone here of growing illegal drugs for resale?



Yes Harry, I am accusing Kevin.


BTW, I am proud of you Harry and your ability to equate 'growing for resale'
with 'cash crops'. Keep it up. ;-)



Lord Reginald Smithers December 9th 05 02:05 PM

OT: A home run for Kevin
 
Kevin,
You are the person who said your mother was an uncontrolled alcoholic.
Alcohol abuse qualifies as drug abuse.

Is it possible you lied about your mother.


wrote in message
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*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message
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*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message
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*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message
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big snip)


Learn to relax Kevin. Breath in ..........breath
out............breath
in............breath out...........think joyous thoughts, like eating
*buggers* with your family.

What an ignorant low life piece fo crap you are. You've been proven as
such right here in this thread. Grow up, you brainless little ****
stain. You whine like a little baby when someone says something about
you or your family, then turn around and act like such a scum that you
actually say unfounded, nasty, petty things about someone's dead
mother. People need to see you for what you really are, a worthless
piece of crap. Go show your wife what nasty, ****ty little things
you've done. I'll bet she'd be agast and shocked at what a low life you
really are.


You need psychiatric help. I hope you seek it.


Hmm, let's recap, shall we? I've proven you a liar. I've proven that
you'll go as low as a human being can possibly go to TRY to win an
argument. I"ve proven that you chastise others for saying and doing
EXACTLY as you do, while letting people in your circle jerk club do it
constantly. Now, who do you think needs help? Really, Jim, do the test,
show your wife all of your posts to me, the ones where you claim to
have knowledge that my mother used drugs (still waiting for you to find
where I ever said anything remotely like that), show her the posts of
you lying lie after lie about me, for weeks. Show her where you've
posted questions to me in a manner that would tend to make someone
think that you had some evidence of certain behaviors, then show her
when someone does exactly the same thing to you, you go nuts. If she is
any kind of decent human, she'll be agast at your behavior. Try it.





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