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Kevin, once again congratulations on yet another well written
editorial.
Although I disagree with your assumptions, conclusions and theories
the
piece was very well written and did not contain the words idiot or
stupid
even once. It also was free of vulgar language and personal insults.

Nice job Kevin! Keep it up. ;-)

By the way, when are YOU going to stop the personal insults? Again,
your childish nature is showing. You think it quite all right for
someone that is in your circle jerk to lie about others, use vulgar
language, personal insults, bring someone's mother into a discussion,
etc.

Cite a few examples Kevin. I would especially like to see the vulgar
language ones.


Still waiting Kevin.



So when is your next op ed to be published here?

Are you denying that you've posted lies about me??


Yes.


Really?


Yes.


Are you denying that you've positioned questions to me, that when
someone else reads them, they would tend to think that you had some
evidence of something afoul, and then when I do EXACTLY the same thing,
you cry like a baby, and threaten to take legal action? Are you denying
that?


Yes.


Are you denying that months ago, you said terrible, untrue, things
about my mother here? Are you denying that?


Yes



What it boils down to is your childish position that you and your
buddies can do it, but when it comes back to bite you in the ass, you
whine and cry about it. Grow up. I can give examples of any and all of
the above proving that you are incredibly one sided.


Great. Please do so Kevin.

*JimH* wrote:

Cite a few examples Kevin. I would especially like to see the vulgar
language ones.


Still waiting Kevin.



So when is your next op ed to be published here?

Are you denying that you've posted lies about me??


Yes.


Really?


Yes.

How about this, for a little example. You ADMITTED that you had done
all of the above, and was going to take time off from the newsgroup to
get a grip. What mental problem do you suffer from to forget that so
quickly? Anyway, heres just a few examples:

I said:
What rumors are those? Not only are you a pathetic liar, you must have
mental problems, too. What other fantasies just pop into your head? Are
there voices in your head that tells you those things?

JimH said:
The report in your local rag was about you being caught with another
man and
both of you stoned drunk

Nothing BUT a stone lie FROM YOU.


Are you denying that you've positioned questions to me, that when
someone else reads them, they would tend to think that you had some
evidence of something afoul, and then when I do EXACTLY the same thing,
you cry like a baby, and threaten to take legal action? Are you denying
that?


Yes.

Well, here is one of your questions posed to me in EXACTLY the same
manner in which I posted one to you, and you whined and cried: Don't
remember this either:

JimH said:
I also heard he is trying to stop drinking and is thinking of joining
AA. (Absolute lie from you)

I asked:
Come on, Jim, where did you hear that? Be specific, or be known forever
as a petty liar.

You retorted:
I read it in your local newspaper. (Absolute lie from you)

I asked:
Which paper? What date? Page? Be specific, or be a liar, your choice.

You said:
Nope. I read it in the Gwinnett Citizen. Also, your DWI arrest was
listed on line at the ScanGwinnett Police site. I cannot recall the
date.....it was several months ago. (absolute lie from you)

You said:
I hope he gets help with his drinking problem. I was surprised when I
read
about his DWI at those links. (An absolute lie from you)

Still in denial?

JimH said:
So have you stopped binge drinking? An example of JUST the type of
question Jim whined and threatened to sue over!)

JimH said:
So are the rumors true that you have gay tendencies? An example of JUST
the type of question Jim whined and threatened to sue over!

Are you denying that months ago, you said terrible, untrue, things
about my mother here? Are you denying that?


Yes

Here is where you are such a low life piece of **** that you even
brought my KIDS into a discussion:

JimH asked:
Are you still growing, selling and smoking marijuana? (with absoutely
NO evidence of such behavior)

To which I asked:
What makes you think I ever grew, sold, and smoked marijuana,

Jim replied:
Do you allow your children to smoke it? (can't get much more low life
than that, Jim)

Jim said:

I thought you stopped drinking and smoking dope (with absolutely NO
evidence that I've ever done either)

Jim said:
I am sorry you mom used drugs when she was pregnant with you, but you
should not have abused drugs, it was made it worse ( a complete
fabrication, from you, pretty low, huh?)




What it boils down to is your childish position that you and your
buddies can do it, but when it comes back to bite you in the ass, you
whine and cry about it. Grow up. I can give examples of any and all of
the above proving that you are incredibly one sided.


Great. Please do so Kevin.

See above. If you need more, then ask. I'll leave you with this: IF you
still take the stance that you've never done any of this why did you
publicly apologize for doing exactly what you are claiming that you've
never done, and even said you were going to take time off from the
newsgroup because of your errant behavior?

JimH said:
I also offer my apology to all members of this NG for my recent
indiscretions.

JimH said:
Yep, I lied, but
I admitted to it publicly in this NG...

JimH said:
I hope you read my apology. Although it happened only after being
cornered,
it was sincere. I was cornered and took the wrong road in trying to
explain myself. As a result of that I said things about you that were
not
true and were hurtful. I again apologize to you for that. If there is

anything I should do to restore your reputation here I will do whatever
is
needed.


I know that a hundred apologies will not make up for my indiscretion
but one
more will not hurt. (but you claim not to lie!!)

And this from JimH
I let my emotions overtake common sense and self restraint. If I could
take
back the January, 2006 post I would.

I need time off from this place and will be gone for a while.
Again, my apologies to all.
Jim (if you deny the things I've mentioned, why apologize?)

So, do you still deny all of this, Jim? Remember, anybody can do a
google search, and find it all!!!!

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Cite a few examples Kevin. I would especially like to see the vulgar
language ones.


Still waiting Kevin.



So when is your next op ed to be published here?

Are you denying that you've posted lies about me??


Yes.


Really?


Yes.

How about this, for a little example. You ADMITTED that you had done
all of the above, and was going to take time off from the newsgroup to
get a grip. What mental problem do you suffer from to forget that so
quickly? Anyway, heres just a few examples:

I said:
What rumors are those? Not only are you a pathetic liar, you must have
mental problems, too. What other fantasies just pop into your head? Are
there voices in your head that tells you those things?

JimH said:
The report in your local rag was about you being caught with another
man and
both of you stoned drunk

Nothing BUT a stone lie FROM YOU.


Are you denying that you've positioned questions to me, that when
someone else reads them, they would tend to think that you had some
evidence of something afoul, and then when I do EXACTLY the same thing,
you cry like a baby, and threaten to take legal action? Are you denying
that?


Yes.

Well, here is one of your questions posed to me in EXACTLY the same
manner in which I posted one to you, and you whined and cried: Don't
remember this either:

JimH said:
I also heard he is trying to stop drinking and is thinking of joining
AA. (Absolute lie from you)

I asked:
Come on, Jim, where did you hear that? Be specific, or be known forever
as a petty liar.

You retorted:
I read it in your local newspaper. (Absolute lie from you)

I asked:
Which paper? What date? Page? Be specific, or be a liar, your choice.

You said:
Nope. I read it in the Gwinnett Citizen. Also, your DWI arrest was
listed on line at the ScanGwinnett Police site. I cannot recall the
date.....it was several months ago. (absolute lie from you)

You said:
I hope he gets help with his drinking problem. I was surprised when I
read
about his DWI at those links. (An absolute lie from you)

Still in denial?

JimH said:
So have you stopped binge drinking? An example of JUST the type of
question Jim whined and threatened to sue over!)

JimH said:
So are the rumors true that you have gay tendencies? An example of JUST
the type of question Jim whined and threatened to sue over!

Are you denying that months ago, you said terrible, untrue, things
about my mother here? Are you denying that?


Yes

So where are the terrible, untrue things I said about your mother Kevin?



Here is where you are such a low life piece of **** that you even
brought my KIDS into a discussion:

JimH asked:
Are you still growing, selling and smoking marijuana? (with absoutely
NO evidence of such behavior)

To which I asked:
What makes you think I ever grew, sold, and smoked marijuana,

Jim replied:
Do you allow your children to smoke it? (can't get much more low life
than that, Jim)

Jim said:

I thought you stopped drinking and smoking dope (with absolutely NO
evidence that I've ever done either)

Jim said:
I am sorry you mom used drugs when she was pregnant with you, but you
should not have abused drugs, it was made it worse ( a complete
fabrication, from you, pretty low, huh?)




What it boils down to is your childish position that you and your
buddies can do it, but when it comes back to bite you in the ass, you
whine and cry about it. Grow up. I can give examples of any and all of
the above proving that you are incredibly one sided.


Great. Please do so Kevin.

See above. If you need more, then ask.


Yes, I posted that about Kevin. But you said you are not Kevin. Are you
now saying you are Kevin?

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Cite a few examples Kevin. I would especially like to see the vulgar
language ones.


Still waiting Kevin.



So when is your next op ed to be published here?

Are you denying that you've posted lies about me??


Yes.


Really?


Yes.

How about this, for a little example. You ADMITTED that you had done
all of the above, and was going to take time off from the newsgroup to
get a grip. What mental problem do you suffer from to forget that so
quickly? Anyway, heres just a few examples:

I said:
What rumors are those? Not only are you a pathetic liar, you must have
mental problems, too. What other fantasies just pop into your head? Are
there voices in your head that tells you those things?

JimH said:
The report in your local rag was about you being caught with another
man and
both of you stoned drunk

Nothing BUT a stone lie FROM YOU.


Are you denying that you've positioned questions to me, that when
someone else reads them, they would tend to think that you had some
evidence of something afoul, and then when I do EXACTLY the same thing,
you cry like a baby, and threaten to take legal action? Are you denying
that?


Yes.

Well, here is one of your questions posed to me in EXACTLY the same
manner in which I posted one to you, and you whined and cried: Don't
remember this either:

JimH said:
I also heard he is trying to stop drinking and is thinking of joining
AA. (Absolute lie from you)

I asked:
Come on, Jim, where did you hear that? Be specific, or be known forever
as a petty liar.

You retorted:
I read it in your local newspaper. (Absolute lie from you)

I asked:
Which paper? What date? Page? Be specific, or be a liar, your choice.

You said:
Nope. I read it in the Gwinnett Citizen. Also, your DWI arrest was
listed on line at the ScanGwinnett Police site. I cannot recall the
date.....it was several months ago. (absolute lie from you)

You said:
I hope he gets help with his drinking problem. I was surprised when I
read
about his DWI at those links. (An absolute lie from you)

Still in denial?

JimH said:
So have you stopped binge drinking? An example of JUST the type of
question Jim whined and threatened to sue over!)

JimH said:
So are the rumors true that you have gay tendencies? An example of JUST
the type of question Jim whined and threatened to sue over!

Are you denying that months ago, you said terrible, untrue, things
about my mother here? Are you denying that?


Yes

So where are the terrible, untrue things I said about your mother Kevin?



Here is where you are such a low life piece of **** that you even
brought my KIDS into a discussion:

JimH asked:
Are you still growing, selling and smoking marijuana? (with absoutely
NO evidence of such behavior)

To which I asked:
What makes you think I ever grew, sold, and smoked marijuana,

Jim replied:
Do you allow your children to smoke it? (can't get much more low life
than that, Jim)

Jim said:

I thought you stopped drinking and smoking dope (with absolutely NO
evidence that I've ever done either)

Jim said:
I am sorry you mom used drugs when she was pregnant with you, but you
should not have abused drugs, it was made it worse ( a complete
fabrication, from you, pretty low, huh?)




What it boils down to is your childish position that you and your
buddies can do it, but when it comes back to bite you in the ass, you
whine and cry about it. Grow up. I can give examples of any and all of
the above proving that you are incredibly one sided.


Great. Please do so Kevin.

See above. If you need more, then ask.


Yes, I posted that about Kevin. But you said you are not Kevin. Are you
now saying you are Kevin?

You aren't very bright are you? YOU REPLY TO ME. The only error is that
you call me Kevin. BUT, you are so stupid, you don't understand that by
REPLYING TO ME, you are, indeed, doing those things TO ME.

Here is just one little thing you've said about me dead mother, low
life. There are plenty more, want me to give some more examples?
I am sorry you mom used drugs when she was pregnant with you, but you
should not have abused drugs, it was made it worse ( a complete
fabrication, from you, pretty low, huh?)

Now, you've gone and proved yourself worthy of being nothing but a low
life liar again by denying you've ever said anything like that. I've
proven you lied about any and all of the above. You should be ashamed
of yourself. You chastise others, and you do things that are lower than
anyone else here. You know you have, you've publicily apologized for
it. And then, because you are a chronic liar, turn around and deny that
you've ever said thoset things!!!! Unbelievable!

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Yes, I posted that about Kevin. But you said you are not Kevin. Are you
now saying you are Kevin?

You aren't very bright are you? YOU REPLY TO ME. The only error is that
you call me Kevin. BUT, you are so stupid, you don't understand that by
REPLYING TO ME, you are, indeed, doing those things TO ME.

Here is just one little thing you've said about me dead mother, low
life. There are plenty more, want me to give some more examples?

Yes, please do.

I am sorry you mom used drugs when she was pregnant with you, but you
should not have abused drugs, it was made it worse ( a complete
fabrication, from you, pretty low, huh?)


Yes, I said that about Kevins mother after he hinted his mother took drugs.



Now, you've gone and proved yourself worthy of being nothing but a low
life liar again by denying you've ever said anything like that. I've
proven you lied about any and all of the above. You should be ashamed
of yourself. You chastise others, and you do things that are lower than
anyone else here. You know you have, you've publicily apologized for
it. And then, because you are a chronic liar, turn around and deny that
you've ever said thoset things!!!! Unbelievable!


Are you serving *buggers* for your Christmas dinner? You never did explain
what they are but hinted that kids love them. I am sure your family and
guest would love to see a plate full of *buggers* on your Christmas dinner
table.

Learn to relax Kevin. Breath in ..........breath out............breath
in............breath out...........think joyous thoughts, like eating
*buggers* with your family.

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Yes, I posted that about Kevin. But you said you are not Kevin. Are you
now saying you are Kevin?

You aren't very bright are you? YOU REPLY TO ME. The only error is that
you call me Kevin. BUT, you are so stupid, you don't understand that by
REPLYING TO ME, you are, indeed, doing those things TO ME.

Here is just one little thing you've said about me dead mother, low
life. There are plenty more, want me to give some more examples?

Yes, please do.

Why, I've proven you are a low life liar.

I am sorry you mom used drugs when she was pregnant with you, but you
should not have abused drugs, it was made it worse ( a complete
fabrication, from you, pretty low, huh?)


Yes, I said that about Kevins mother after he hinted his mother took drugs.

Please show where Kevin "hinted his mother took drugs". Again, liar.



Now, you've gone and proved yourself worthy of being nothing but a low
life liar again by denying you've ever said anything like that. I've
proven you lied about any and all of the above. You should be ashamed
of yourself. You chastise others, and you do things that are lower than
anyone else here. You know you have, you've publicily apologized for
it. And then, because you are a chronic liar, turn around and deny that
you've ever said thoset things!!!! Unbelievable!


Are you serving *buggers* for your Christmas dinner? You never did explain
what they are but hinted that kids love them. I am sure your family and
guest would love to see a plate full of *buggers* on your Christmas dinner
table.

Hmm, can't figure it out, huh? I guess being stuck in Cleveland and not
travelling does that. But, nice try, but please, don't get off the
subject. You are a low life liar. I've showne where you've lied, said
dispicable things about me, my mother, and then had the low life
audacity to DENY you've ever done such, when you publicly apologized
for doing it!!!

Learn to relax Kevin. Breath in ..........breath out............breath
in............breath out...........think joyous thoughts, like eating
*buggers* with your family.

What an ignorant low life piece fo crap you are. You've been proven as
such right here in this thread. Grow up, you brainless little ****
stain. You whine like a little baby when someone says something about
you or your family, then turn around and act like such a scum that you
actually say unfounded, nasty, petty things about someone's dead
mother. People need to see you for what you really are, a worthless
piece of crap. Go show your wife what nasty, ****ty little things
you've done. I'll bet she'd be agast and shocked at what a low life you
really are.

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Learn to relax Kevin. Breath in ..........breath out............breath
in............breath out...........think joyous thoughts, like eating
*buggers* with your family.

What an ignorant low life piece fo crap you are. You've been proven as
such right here in this thread. Grow up, you brainless little ****
stain. You whine like a little baby when someone says something about
you or your family, then turn around and act like such a scum that you
actually say unfounded, nasty, petty things about someone's dead
mother. People need to see you for what you really are, a worthless
piece of crap. Go show your wife what nasty, ****ty little things
you've done. I'll bet she'd be agast and shocked at what a low life you
really are.


You need psychiatric help. I hope you seek it.

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*JimH* wrote:

Cite a few examples Kevin. I would especially like to see the vulgar
language ones.


Still waiting Kevin.



So when is your next op ed to be published here?

Are you denying that you've posted lies about me??


Yes.


Really?


Yes.

How about this, for a little example. You ADMITTED that you had done
all of the above, and was going to take time off from the newsgroup to
get a grip. What mental problem do you suffer from to forget that so
quickly? Anyway, heres just a few examples:

I said:
What rumors are those? Not only are you a pathetic liar, you must have
mental problems, too. What other fantasies just pop into your head? Are
there voices in your head that tells you those things?

JimH said:
The report in your local rag was about you being caught with another
man and
both of you stoned drunk

Nothing BUT a stone lie FROM YOU.


Are you denying that you've positioned questions to me, that when
someone else reads them, they would tend to think that you had some
evidence of something afoul, and then when I do EXACTLY the same thing,
you cry like a baby, and threaten to take legal action? Are you denying
that?


Yes.

Well, here is one of your questions posed to me in EXACTLY the same
manner in which I posted one to you, and you whined and cried: Don't
remember this either:

JimH said:
I also heard he is trying to stop drinking and is thinking of joining
AA. (Absolute lie from you)

I asked:
Come on, Jim, where did you hear that? Be specific, or be known forever
as a petty liar.

You retorted:
I read it in your local newspaper. (Absolute lie from you)

I asked:
Which paper? What date? Page? Be specific, or be a liar, your choice.

You said:
Nope. I read it in the Gwinnett Citizen. Also, your DWI arrest was
listed on line at the ScanGwinnett Police site. I cannot recall the
date.....it was several months ago. (absolute lie from you)

You said:
I hope he gets help with his drinking problem. I was surprised when I
read
about his DWI at those links. (An absolute lie from you)

Still in denial?

JimH said:
So have you stopped binge drinking? An example of JUST the type of
question Jim whined and threatened to sue over!)

JimH said:
So are the rumors true that you have gay tendencies? An example of JUST
the type of question Jim whined and threatened to sue over!

Are you denying that months ago, you said terrible, untrue, things
about my mother here? Are you denying that?


Yes

Here is where you are such a low life piece of **** that you even
brought my KIDS into a discussion:

JimH asked:
Are you still growing, selling and smoking marijuana? (with absoutely
NO evidence of such behavior)

To which I asked:
What makes you think I ever grew, sold, and smoked marijuana,

Jim replied:
Do you allow your children to smoke it? (can't get much more low life
than that, Jim)

Jim said:

I thought you stopped drinking and smoking dope (with absolutely NO
evidence that I've ever done either)

Jim said:
I am sorry you mom used drugs when she was pregnant with you, but you
should not have abused drugs, it was made it worse ( a complete
fabrication, from you, pretty low, huh?)




What it boils down to is your childish position that you and your
buddies can do it, but when it comes back to bite you in the ass, you
whine and cry about it. Grow up. I can give examples of any and all of
the above proving that you are incredibly one sided.


Great. Please do so Kevin.

See above. If you need more, then ask. I'll leave you with this: IF you
still take the stance that you've never done any of this why did you
publicly apologize for doing exactly what you are claiming that you've
never done, and even said you were going to take time off from the
newsgroup because of your errant behavior?

JimH said:
I also offer my apology to all members of this NG for my recent
indiscretions.

JimH said:
Yep, I lied, but
I admitted to it publicly in this NG...

JimH said:
I hope you read my apology. Although it happened only after being
cornered,
it was sincere. I was cornered and took the wrong road in trying to
explain myself. As a result of that I said things about you that were
not
true and were hurtful. I again apologize to you for that. If there is

anything I should do to restore your reputation here I will do whatever
is
needed.


I know that a hundred apologies will not make up for my indiscretion
but one
more will not hurt. (but you claim not to lie!!)

And this from JimH
I let my emotions overtake common sense and self restraint. If I could
take
back the January, 2006 post I would.

I need time off from this place and will be gone for a while.
Again, my apologies to all.
Jim (if you deny the things I've mentioned, why apologize?)

So, do you still deny all of this, Jim? Remember, anybody can do a
google search, and find it all!!!!

Kevin, haven't you been making comments about me and booze? Are *you* being a little hypocritical
here?

BTW, apparently you missed this post from his Royal Highness:

********************************************
Kevin,
My point, and listen carefully now, is if you used the name Kevin Noble when
emailing numerous people in rec.boats, why does it matter if people call you
Kevin or Kevin Noble. That is the name you decided to use, that is the name
we call you.

You may find this hard to believe, but my name is not Lord Reginald
Smithers, but you can feel free to call me your Lordship, Lord Reginald,
Lord Reggie, Lord Smithers, or Your Highness.

For what it is worth, you and Kevin Noble's life has run a parallel path,
including high schools you have both attended, career choices, sister in
laws who have died of the same illness in the exact same city. The craziest
thing, is not only did your lives run parallel, but you actually know Kevin
Noble. That is really freaky isn't it.
*****************************************

You've been presented this information many times, but choose to not answer it. Is it fear on your
part?

--
John H

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Wishing you Peace, Fellowship, and Good Humor as we celebrate the birth of OUR Lord, Jesus Christ on the Christmas Holy Day.