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Donniy's socialist roots are showing LOL

"Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my manor.
wrote in message . ..
Don,
There are many in Canada who pay for separate health care insurance and/or
healthcare private system in Canada or travel to the US to use US private
healthcare.

Paul is not unique being willing to pay a premium for premium healthcare.



"Don White" wrote in message
...
P Fritz wrote:

snip If I can afford better care because I work my ass off, then I
should
be
allowed to do that.


You really are quite the snob.
Indeed, why should those common folk clog up the waiting room ...and the
idea of someone important like you forced to stand in line!
It's just not right.

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JimC,
CBC disagrees with you about Canadian Private Healthcare.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/he...s_private.html



"Jim Carter" wrote in message
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"Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my
manor.
wrote in message . ..
Don,
There are many in Canada who pay for separate health care insurance
and/or
healthcare private system in Canada or travel to the US to use US private
healthcare.

Paul is not unique being willing to pay a premium for premium healthcare.
You are partially correct, Lord Smithers. I, for one, did pay a premium
with a private insurance company for "special" treatments such as private
hospital room instead of a ward bed. I also had dental care and eye
glasses paid by the insurance company. The very rich get special
facilities because of the higher price that they pay in insurance and the
very poor don't pay anything as the government takes complete care of
them.
The reason that you were only partly correct is that there is not
"private"
health care available, here in Canada,
Jim C.

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Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:
JimC,
CBC disagrees with you about Canadian Private Healthcare.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/he...s_private.html


It's an ongoing struggle here. As one of Canada's 'have not' provinces,
Nova Scotia has a hard time affording our medical care...especially
when the Federal gov't under that smarmy %$^%& Brian Mulroney so
drastically reduced their share of the costs.
One of the first 'private clinics' was opened by the infamous Henry
Morgentaler to perform abortions.....even though 1500 a year were
already being performed quietly at a major hospital in the city.
So much for being private....he took the provincial govt to court to
force it to include his services under the medical act and therefore pay
his clinic for services.

Now we get situations where doctors buy an expensive piece of testing
equipment and advertise speedy service for a fee rather than wait months
for free tests.

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Harry Krause wrote:


One of my union clients provides a "supplemental" program to its
Canadian members to cover those items. Dues subsidize the cost of the
program, so the out-of-pocket to the Canadian union member approaches zero.

I buy my health insurance from my union, It's expensive, but the
deductibles are zip and the co-pays are low. I pay $15 for a doctor's
office visit. It's a PPO plan, and so far the few doctors I've seen
through the program are first-rate. If I need an Rx, the generics are $5
to $8, and the "name brands" are 20% of the regular price.


When working, my wife & I had two plans to cover prescriptions, eye
glasses, private hospital room...even massages if you needed one.
My plan disappeared when I retired but she is still included under her
company's family plan, but must pay half the costs ($80.00 CDN per month)

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Don,
Is that a bad thing? In all countries they allocate limited medical
resources in some fashion or other. In those countries with socialized
medicine, they use a "wait" period to help allocate limited resources.
Should those who don't want to wait, be forced to travel to the US?


"Don White" wrote in message
...
Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:
JimC,
CBC disagrees with you about Canadian Private Healthcare.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/he...s_private.html


It's an ongoing struggle here. As one of Canada's 'have not' provinces,
Nova Scotia has a hard time affording our medical care...especially when
the Federal gov't under that smarmy %$^%& Brian Mulroney so drastically
reduced their share of the costs.
One of the first 'private clinics' was opened by the infamous Henry
Morgentaler to perform abortions.....even though 1500 a year were already
being performed quietly at a major hospital in the city.
So much for being private....he took the provincial govt to court to force
it to include his services under the medical act and therefore pay his
clinic for services.

Now we get situations where doctors buy an expensive piece of testing
equipment and advertise speedy service for a fee rather than wait months
for free tests.

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"Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my manor.
wrote in message ...
JimC,
CBC disagrees with you about Canadian Private Healthcare.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/he...s_private.html
Thank you Lord Smithers for the article from CBC.

I did read this and I can, perhaps, change my perception of what is
"private". It is really a misnomer. It is "extra" that I pay for the
insurance to get a little bit better treatment as far as the rooms, and
certain services that are not covered by the government. Some things not
covered for most people are eyeglasses and dental treatment. The
government believes that if you can afford to pay for certain services, then
the government will not cover it for you. Poor people get 100% coverage.
What I take as "Private" Health care is when you don't have to wait for
services. This is technically illegal in Canada. Certain clinics were
"grandfathered" into the system but no new ones are allowed. The one thing
that we have here in Canada is the treatment for our veterans. There
treatment is like "Royal" treatment. My Dad gets anything he needs for
free and it's delivered to his house. If he needs to go to the doctors
office. He can take a wheelchair bus and it is free, door to door.

I hope I have explained it to you OK. I am not a very good writer.

Jim C.

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On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 22:06:54 -0400, Terry Spragg wrote:

John H. wrote:


MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Wishing you peace, fellowship, and good humor as we celebrate the birth of our Lord, Jesus Christ on the Christmas Holy Day.

"our" lord? Who are you to force YOUR lord on any and all individuals?


"Our" is an inclusionary term, meaning, first "Our group, not your
group." Or an exclusionary term. It delineates groups. Neutrally.

Second "All of us, wether you know it or not, are bounded by the
logic of the universe, wether you understand it or not."

Force? What force? Bugger off, if you want to. Or, try to
understand Christ. Press "N" for next.

He ain't easy. If you get as far as "OH, Lord, why have you
foresaken me?" You will have come far, indeed.

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Wishing you peace, fellowship, and good humor as we celebrate the birth of our Lord, Jesus Christ on the Christmas Holy Day.

One feast day of many? Yet, will you argue that a man needs no
sabbath? Even from sabbaths? For the sabbath was "ordained for the
good of men."

Whatever day you celebrate, thankfully. Variety is good. Free will
is good. Rest is good. Spending wages earned is good, and requires
a day off in which to do it. Commerce is good. Communications is
good. You are good, maybe just a little off target. Give peace a
chance, if you hope for peace.

Merry Festivus.

Terry K

I use ''OUR" to mean all men who desire to celebrate the birth of Jesus! The 'birth' is celebrated
on only one day. I wish you peace, fellowship, and good humor on every other day as well!

--
John H

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Wishing you Peace, Fellowship, and Good Humor as we celebrate the birth of OUR Lord, Jesus Christ on the Christmas Holy Day.

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Don White wrote:

Dan Krueger wrote:

That's lame. I'm sure YOU got a chuckle when you hit the "SEND"
button, but anyone who graduated high school would find it pathetic
and sad.



So ...since you only find it "lame"...am I to believe you haven't
graduated from High School?
That does answer some questions.

??? Right, Don. Nice spin. Weak and transparent however.

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Liberalism.......The fear that somewhere, someone is having a good time.
The goal of Liberalism.....To have everyone share equally in misery.

"Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my
manor. wrote in message ...
Don,
Is that a bad thing? In all countries they allocate limited medical
resources in some fashion or other. In those countries with socialized
medicine, they use a "wait" period to help allocate limited resources.
Should those who don't want to wait, be forced to travel to the US?


"Don White" wrote in message
...
Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:
JimC,
CBC disagrees with you about Canadian Private Healthcare.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/he...s_private.html


It's an ongoing struggle here. As one of Canada's 'have not'
provinces,
Nova Scotia has a hard time affording our medical care...especially
when
the Federal gov't under that smarmy %$^%& Brian Mulroney so drastically
reduced their share of the costs.
One of the first 'private clinics' was opened by the infamous Henry
Morgentaler to perform abortions.....even though 1500 a year were
already
being performed quietly at a major hospital in the city.
So much for being private....he took the provincial govt to court to
force
it to include his services under the medical act and therefore pay his
clinic for services.

Now we get situations where doctors buy an expensive piece of testing
equipment and advertise speedy service for a fee rather than wait
months
for free tests.