"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Merck to cut 7,000 jobs

GM to cut 30,000 jobs

Ford to cut 4000 jobs

Casual Corner is closing 525 stores.

Interstate Bakeries has already shed 4000 jobs and is looking at dropping
another 450.

These are real jobs, not the McBush jobs Presidummy touts.

I'm not familiar with Merck's situation, so I can't comment on that.

GM's story has been all over the news. Nobody's blaming "the economy" for
their problems. Rather, the public's not buying their cars in large enough
numbers, and they're being bled to death by some very stupid labor
agreements, some of which involve paying people full salary to sit around
doing absolutely nothing.
Ford's got the same problems.

Casual Corner is probably a victim of bigger discounters, especially since
the clothing's pretty much the exact same crap with a different label.

Interstate Bakeries....Harry, do your research. The company filed for
bankruptcy in September of 2004. Their problems have little or nothing to do
with politics. Competition is the main issue, as well as dietary changes in
this country - same thing that's hammered Krispy Kreme's business.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Merck to cut 7,000 jobs

GM to cut 30,000 jobs

Ford to cut 4000 jobs

Casual Corner is closing 525 stores.

Interstate Bakeries has already shed 4000 jobs and is looking at
dropping another 450.

These are real jobs, not the McBush jobs Presidummy touts.

I'm not familiar with Merck's situation, so I can't comment on that.

GM's story has been all over the news. Nobody's blaming "the economy" for
their problems. Rather, the public's not buying their cars in large
enough numbers, and they're being bled to death by some very stupid labor
agreements, some of which involve paying people full salary to sit around
doing absolutely nothing.
Ford's got the same problems.

Casual Corner is probably a victim of bigger discounters, especially
since the clothing's pretty much the exact same crap with a different
label.

Interstate Bakeries....Harry, do your research. The company filed for
bankruptcy in September of 2004. Their problems have little or nothing to
do with politics. Competition is the main issue, as well as dietary
changes in this country - same thing that's hammered Krispy Kreme's
business.
My comment was that we were losing real jobs.

So? It was politically motivated, right? If you really stretched, you could
say Casual Corner is closing stores because people are financially stressed,
so they've left CC for the discounters. But the others? That dog won't hunt.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Merck to cut 7,000 jobs

GM to cut 30,000 jobs

Ford to cut 4000 jobs

Casual Corner is closing 525 stores.

Interstate Bakeries has already shed 4000 jobs and is looking at
dropping another 450.

These are real jobs, not the McBush jobs Presidummy touts.
I'm not familiar with Merck's situation, so I can't comment on that.

GM's story has been all over the news. Nobody's blaming "the economy"
for their problems. Rather, the public's not buying their cars in large
enough numbers, and they're being bled to death by some very stupid
labor agreements, some of which involve paying people full salary to
sit around doing absolutely nothing.
Ford's got the same problems.

Casual Corner is probably a victim of bigger discounters, especially
since the clothing's pretty much the exact same crap with a different
label.

Interstate Bakeries....Harry, do your research. The company filed for
bankruptcy in September of 2004. Their problems have little or nothing
to do with politics. Competition is the main issue, as well as dietary
changes in this country - same thing that's hammered Krispy Kreme's
business.
My comment was that we were losing real jobs.

So? It was politically motivated, right? If you really stretched, you
could say Casual Corner is closing stores because people are financially
stressed, so they've left CC for the discounters. But the others? That
dog won't hunt.

No, my comment was that we were losing real jobs. Most of Bush's touted
"job growth" is in low pay, low benefit McJobs. I'm interested in growth
in jobs that provide good pay and benefits, not in fill-in jobs. Fill-in
jobs won't replace what is being lost in manufacturing.

Just because a job pays well, doesn't make it a "real" job. Consider the
huge salaries paid to professional athletes...or the huge salaries paid to
some schlep sitting around doing absolute nothing just because his job is
protected by a union.

"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Merck to cut 7,000 jobs

GM to cut 30,000 jobs

Ford to cut 4000 jobs

Casual Corner is closing 525 stores.

Interstate Bakeries has already shed 4000 jobs and is looking at
dropping another 450.

These are real jobs, not the McBush jobs Presidummy touts.
I'm not familiar with Merck's situation, so I can't comment on that.

GM's story has been all over the news. Nobody's blaming "the economy"
for their problems. Rather, the public's not buying their cars in
large enough numbers, and they're being bled to death by some very
stupid labor agreements, some of which involve paying people full
salary to sit around doing absolutely nothing.
Ford's got the same problems.

Casual Corner is probably a victim of bigger discounters, especially
since the clothing's pretty much the exact same crap with a different
label.

Interstate Bakeries....Harry, do your research. The company filed for
bankruptcy in September of 2004. Their problems have little or nothing
to do with politics. Competition is the main issue, as well as dietary
changes in this country - same thing that's hammered Krispy Kreme's
business.
My comment was that we were losing real jobs.

So? It was politically motivated, right? If you really stretched, you
could say Casual Corner is closing stores because people are financially
stressed, so they've left CC for the discounters. But the others? That
dog won't hunt.

No, my comment was that we were losing real jobs. Most of Bush's touted
"job growth" is in low pay, low benefit McJobs. I'm interested in growth
in jobs that provide good pay and benefits, not in fill-in jobs. Fill-in
jobs won't replace what is being lost in manufacturing.

Just because a job pays well, doesn't make it a "real" job. Consider the
huge salaries paid to professional athletes...or the huge salaries paid to
some schlep sitting around doing absolute nothing just because his job is
protected by a union.




Silly gentile. To "shlep" is to drag something with considerable difficulty,
like a table saw up the basement stairs without anyone helping.

"NOYB" wrote
Just because a job pays well, doesn't make it a "real" job.

Agreed.

... Consider the
huge salaries paid to professional athletes...

I'd consider that a "real job" because it is certainly hard
work even if only for part of the year, and performance is
very seriously judged on an easily quantified scale.


... or the huge salaries paid to
some schlep sitting around doing absolute nothing just because his job is
protected by a union.



Doug Kanter wrote:
Silly gentile. To "shlep" is to drag something with considerable difficulty,
like a table saw up the basement stairs without anyone helping.


Are you surprised NOBBY can't speak Yiddish? I'd call the
above guy a schlemiel.

I was also waiting for him to define a person as not holding
a "real job" even though well paid to include the clueless
dork playing video games in the Oval Office all day.

DSK

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Merck to cut 7,000 jobs

GM to cut 30,000 jobs

Ford to cut 4000 jobs

Casual Corner is closing 525 stores.

Interstate Bakeries has already shed 4000 jobs and is looking at
dropping another 450.

These are real jobs, not the McBush jobs Presidummy touts.
I'm not familiar with Merck's situation, so I can't comment on that.

GM's story has been all over the news. Nobody's blaming "the economy"
for their problems. Rather, the public's not buying their cars in
large enough numbers, and they're being bled to death by some very
stupid labor agreements, some of which involve paying people full
salary to sit around doing absolutely nothing.
Ford's got the same problems.

Casual Corner is probably a victim of bigger discounters, especially
since the clothing's pretty much the exact same crap with a different
label.

Interstate Bakeries....Harry, do your research. The company filed for
bankruptcy in September of 2004. Their problems have little or
nothing to do with politics. Competition is the main issue, as well
as dietary changes in this country - same thing that's hammered
Krispy Kreme's business.
My comment was that we were losing real jobs.

So? It was politically motivated, right? If you really stretched, you
could say Casual Corner is closing stores because people are
financially stressed, so they've left CC for the discounters. But the
others? That dog won't hunt.

No, my comment was that we were losing real jobs. Most of Bush's touted
"job growth" is in low pay, low benefit McJobs. I'm interested in growth
in jobs that provide good pay and benefits, not in fill-in jobs. Fill-in
jobs won't replace what is being lost in manufacturing.

Just because a job pays well, doesn't make it a "real" job. Consider the
huge salaries paid to professional athletes...or the huge salaries paid
to some schlep sitting around doing absolute nothing just because his job
is protected by a union.




Silly gentile. To "shlep" is to drag something with considerable
difficulty, like a table saw up the basement stairs without anyone
helping.

It can be spelled both ways...and it can also mean a clumsy or stupid
person.

"DSK" wrote in message
.. .
"NOYB" wrote
Just because a job pays well, doesn't make it a "real" job.

Agreed.

... Consider the huge salaries paid to professional athletes...

I'd consider that a "real job" because it is certainly hard work even if
only for part of the year, and performance is very seriously judged on an
easily quantified scale.


... or the huge salaries paid to some schlep sitting around doing
absolute nothing just because his job is protected by a union.



Doug Kanter wrote:
Silly gentile. To "shlep" is to drag something with considerable
difficulty, like a table saw up the basement stairs without anyone
helping.

Are you surprised NOBBY can't speak Yiddish? I'd call the above guy a
schlemiel.

Or a schlep.

If you're not convinced, ask one of your Jewish friends.

Or look it up:
http://www.bartleby.com/61/69/S0136900.html

"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Merck to cut 7,000 jobs

GM to cut 30,000 jobs

Ford to cut 4000 jobs

Casual Corner is closing 525 stores.

Interstate Bakeries has already shed 4000 jobs and is looking at
dropping another 450.

These are real jobs, not the McBush jobs Presidummy touts.
I'm not familiar with Merck's situation, so I can't comment on that.

GM's story has been all over the news. Nobody's blaming "the
economy" for their problems. Rather, the public's not buying their
cars in large enough numbers, and they're being bled to death by
some very stupid labor agreements, some of which involve paying
people full salary to sit around doing absolutely nothing.
Ford's got the same problems.

Casual Corner is probably a victim of bigger discounters, especially
since the clothing's pretty much the exact same crap with a
different label.

Interstate Bakeries....Harry, do your research. The company filed
for bankruptcy in September of 2004. Their problems have little or
nothing to do with politics. Competition is the main issue, as well
as dietary changes in this country - same thing that's hammered
Krispy Kreme's business.
My comment was that we were losing real jobs.

So? It was politically motivated, right? If you really stretched, you
could say Casual Corner is closing stores because people are
financially stressed, so they've left CC for the discounters. But the
others? That dog won't hunt.

No, my comment was that we were losing real jobs. Most of Bush's touted
"job growth" is in low pay, low benefit McJobs. I'm interested in
growth in jobs that provide good pay and benefits, not in fill-in jobs.
Fill-in jobs won't replace what is being lost in manufacturing.

Just because a job pays well, doesn't make it a "real" job. Consider
the huge salaries paid to professional athletes...or the huge salaries
paid to some schlep sitting around doing absolute nothing just because
his job is protected by a union.




Silly gentile. To "shlep" is to drag something with considerable
difficulty, like a table saw up the basement stairs without anyone
helping.

It can be spelled both ways...and it can also mean a clumsy or stupid
person.




99% of the time, you'll raise eyebrows with that useage.

Are you surprised NOBBY can't speak Yiddish? I'd call the above guy a
schlemiel.


NOYB wrote:
Or a schlep.

If you're not convinced, ask one of your Jewish friends.

Or look it up:
http://www.bartleby.com/61/69/S0136900.html


Well, in many languages, the verb can also mean the person
who does it. We knew what you meant, but that doesn't make
it the best word for that particular usage.

"The difference between the right word and almost the right
word is the difference between lightning & the lightning
bug" -Mark Twain

DSK

"DSK" wrote in message
.. .
Are you surprised NOBBY can't speak Yiddish? I'd call the above guy a
schlemiel.


NOYB wrote:
Or a schlep.

If you're not convinced, ask one of your Jewish friends.

Or look it up:
http://www.bartleby.com/61/69/S0136900.html

Well, in many languages, the verb can also mean the person who does it. We
knew what you meant, but that doesn't make it the best word for that
particular usage.

"The difference between the right word and almost the right word is the
difference between lightning & the lightning bug" -Mark Twain

DSK


For what NOYB was trying to say, I think a "mope" would've been better.