Besides the fact that increasing cafe standards has costs thousands of lives
and millions of dollars........but that doesn't matter to the liebrals.

"Sir Rodney Smithers" Ask me about my knighthood. wrote in message
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Thunder,
That wasn't the question, the question is should car manufacturers ONLY
build cars to a government mandate, or should they use initiative to do
better than the mandate, if they think it is something the consumer will
buy?


"thunder" wrote in message
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On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 08:01:56 -0500, Sir Rodney Smithers wrote:

Thunder,
Do you think companies should only manufacturer cars based upon
government
mandates (ie CAFE standards)? Why did Toyota decide to try to do
better
than the CAFE standards?

I would argue that some things have to be regulated. The fact is, car
mileage has increased from 12 mpg to 27 mpg because of CAFE standards.
American car manufacturers were screaming that is couldn't be done.
Well,
it was done, and because of government regulation. How about seat
belts?
They weren't even an option until government required them. How about
the
environment? When was the last time a river caught fire? Not all
government regulation is good, but some.

"P Fritz" wrote in message
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Besides the fact that increasing cafe standards has costs thousands of
lives
and millions of dollars........but that doesn't matter to the liebrals.

Cost lives? How's that?

On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 18:54:55 +0000, Doug Kanter wrote:

"P Fritz" wrote in message
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Besides the fact that increasing cafe standards has costs thousands of
lives
and millions of dollars........but that doesn't matter to the liebrals.

Cost lives? How's that?

The theory is that small fuel efficient cars are not as safe as land
sleds. I've read an estimate that CAFE standards might have added 2000
additional traffic fatalities since the 70s.

"thunder" wrote in message
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On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 18:54:55 +0000, Doug Kanter wrote:

"P Fritz" wrote in message
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Besides the fact that increasing cafe standards has costs thousands of
lives
and millions of dollars........but that doesn't matter to the liebrals.

Cost lives? How's that?

The theory is that small fuel efficient cars are not as safe as land
sleds. I've read an estimate that CAFE standards might have added 2000
additional traffic fatalities since the 70s.


Oh well.