Scott Weiser wrote:
:
: I happen to be one of those oppressed few.
:
: For more than four decades my family has protected and preserved unique
: habitat outside of Boulder, Colo. As a result, we host several protected rare
: and endangered species on our property. One of the protected species we host
: is the American bald eagle. The eagles have been nesting here for more than a
: decade. They were welcome here, and our ordinary ranching operations never
: disturbed them enough to cause them to leave. Arguably they came here because
: of those activities. As a result of our stewardship, many generations of young
: eagles have grown up here. Of the vast majority of people, particularly
: including city-dwellers and suburban-sprawlites, all of whom presently live on
snip

Scott... Do you still actually own that land?

I thought you and the boulder creek property split in 2002?

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A Usenet persona calling itself Chicago Paddling-Fishing wrote:

Scott Weiser wrote:
:
: I happen to be one of those oppressed few.
:
: For more than four decades my family has protected and preserved unique
: habitat outside of Boulder, Colo. As a result, we host several protected
rare
: and endangered species on our property. One of the protected species we
host
: is the American bald eagle. The eagles have been nesting here for more than
a
: decade. They were welcome here, and our ordinary ranching operations never
: disturbed them enough to cause them to leave. Arguably they came here
because
: of those activities. As a result of our stewardship, many generations of
young
: eagles have grown up here. Of the vast majority of people, particularly
: including city-dwellers and suburban-sprawlites, all of whom presently live
on
snip

Scott... Do you still actually own that land?

Yup.

I thought you and the boulder creek property split in 2002?

Nope. My mother died in 2002, but the land has been in a family partnership
since 1994. I thought I might lose the land to the estate tax ghouls, but
after more than three years of uncertainty because the IRS sat on its thumb
until late this year, it looks like I might be able to save it. I'll know
for sure by June.

--
Regards,
Scott Weiser

"I love the Internet, I no longer have to depend on
friends, family and co-workers, I can annoy people WORLDWIDE!" TM

© 2005 Scott Weiser

Scott Weiser wrote:
: A Usenet persona calling itself Chicago Paddling-Fishing wrote:

: Scott Weiser wrote:
: :
: : I happen to be one of those oppressed few.
: :
: : For more than four decades my family has protected and preserved unique
: : habitat outside of Boulder, Colo. As a result, we host several protected
: rare
: : and endangered species on our property. One of the protected species we
: host
: : is the American bald eagle. The eagles have been nesting here for more than
: a
: : decade. They were welcome here, and our ordinary ranching operations never
: : disturbed them enough to cause them to leave. Arguably they came here
: because
: : of those activities. As a result of our stewardship, many generations of
: young
: : eagles have grown up here. Of the vast majority of people, particularly
: : including city-dwellers and suburban-sprawlites, all of whom presently live
: on
: snip
:
: Scott... Do you still actually own that land?

: Yup.

: I thought you and the boulder creek property split in 2002?

: Nope. My mother died in 2002, but the land has been in a family partnership
: since 1994. I thought I might lose the land to the estate tax ghouls, but
: after more than three years of uncertainty because the IRS sat on its thumb
: until late this year, it looks like I might be able to save it. I'll know
: for sure by June.

As always, I should mention that Scott didn't buy it, his mom did...

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A Usenet persona calling itself Chicago Paddling-Fishing wrote:

Scott Weiser wrote:
: A Usenet persona calling itself Chicago Paddling-Fishing wrote:

: Scott Weiser wrote:
: :
: : I happen to be one of those oppressed few.
: :
: : For more than four decades my family has protected and preserved unique
: : habitat outside of Boulder, Colo. As a result, we host several protected
: rare
: : and endangered species on our property. One of the protected species we
: host
: : is the American bald eagle. The eagles have been nesting here for more
than
: a
: : decade. They were welcome here, and our ordinary ranching operations
never
: : disturbed them enough to cause them to leave. Arguably they came here
: because
: : of those activities. As a result of our stewardship, many generations of
: young
: : eagles have grown up here. Of the vast majority of people, particularly
: : including city-dwellers and suburban-sprawlites, all of whom presently
live
: on
: snip
:
: Scott... Do you still actually own that land?

: Yup.

: I thought you and the boulder creek property split in 2002?

: Nope. My mother died in 2002, but the land has been in a family partnership
: since 1994. I thought I might lose the land to the estate tax ghouls, but
: after more than three years of uncertainty because the IRS sat on its thumb
: until late this year, it looks like I might be able to save it. I'll know
: for sure by June.

As always, I should mention that Scott didn't buy it, his mom did...

Oh, I paid for it alright. Who do you thing did the farm work for 40 years?
That would be me.

Besides, what does it matter in the first place? It doesn't, you're just
engaging in yet more of that ad hominem attack you're famous for because you
can't come up with a logical, rational, supportable argument to refute me.

Lame, Travesty, lame.
--
Regards,
Scott Weiser

"I love the Internet, I no longer have to depend on
friends, family and co-workers, I can annoy people WORLDWIDE!" TM

© 2005 Scott Weiser

Scott Weiser wrote:
: A Usenet persona calling itself Chicago Paddling-Fishing wrote:

: Scott Weiser wrote:
: : A Usenet persona calling itself Chicago Paddling-Fishing wrote:
:
: : Scott Weiser wrote:
: : :
: : : I happen to be one of those oppressed few.
: : :
: : : For more than four decades my family has protected and preserved unique
: : : habitat outside of Boulder, Colo. As a result, we host several protected
: : rare
: : : and endangered species on our property. One of the protected species we
: : host
: : : is the American bald eagle. The eagles have been nesting here for more
: than
: : a
: : : decade. They were welcome here, and our ordinary ranching operations
: never
: : : disturbed them enough to cause them to leave. Arguably they came here
: : because
: : : of those activities. As a result of our stewardship, many generations of
: : young
: : : eagles have grown up here. Of the vast majority of people, particularly
: : : including city-dwellers and suburban-sprawlites, all of whom presently
: live
: : on
: : snip
: :
: : Scott... Do you still actually own that land?
:
: : Yup.
:
: : I thought you and the boulder creek property split in 2002?
:
: : Nope. My mother died in 2002, but the land has been in a family partnership
: : since 1994. I thought I might lose the land to the estate tax ghouls, but
: : after more than three years of uncertainty because the IRS sat on its thumb
: : until late this year, it looks like I might be able to save it. I'll know
: : for sure by June.
:
: As always, I should mention that Scott didn't buy it, his mom did...

: Oh, I paid for it alright. Who do you thing did the farm work for 40 years?
: That would be me.

You inherited the property...

: Besides, what does it matter in the first place? It doesn't, you're just
: engaging in yet more of that ad hominem attack you're famous for because you
: can't come up with a logical, rational, supportable argument to refute me.

I don't need to... I still believe in the following statement...
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.b...b520813d0b5cca

No state can enact a law that limits the Federal Governments ability to create
treaties with foreign nations... I think it's just a matter of time before
someone goes to court with a good lawyer and lots of research behind them...

--
John Nelson
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A Usenet persona calling itself Chicago Paddling-Fishing wrote:

Scott Weiser wrote:
: A Usenet persona calling itself Chicago Paddling-Fishing wrote:

: Scott Weiser wrote:
: : A Usenet persona calling itself Chicago Paddling-Fishing wrote:
:
: : Scott Weiser wrote:
: : :
: : : I happen to be one of those oppressed few.
: : :
: : : For more than four decades my family has protected and preserved
unique
: : : habitat outside of Boulder, Colo. As a result, we host several
protected
: : rare
: : : and endangered species on our property. One of the protected species
we
: : host
: : : is the American bald eagle. The eagles have been nesting here for
more
: than
: : a
: : : decade. They were welcome here, and our ordinary ranching operations
: never
: : : disturbed them enough to cause them to leave. Arguably they came here
: : because
: : : of those activities. As a result of our stewardship, many generations
of
: : young
: : : eagles have grown up here. Of the vast majority of people,
particularly
: : : including city-dwellers and suburban-sprawlites, all of whom
presently
: live
: : on
: : snip
: :
: : Scott... Do you still actually own that land?
:
: : Yup.
:
: : I thought you and the boulder creek property split in 2002?
:
: : Nope. My mother died in 2002, but the land has been in a family
partnership
: : since 1994. I thought I might lose the land to the estate tax ghouls, but
: : after more than three years of uncertainty because the IRS sat on its
thumb
: : until late this year, it looks like I might be able to save it. I'll know
: : for sure by June.
:
: As always, I should mention that Scott didn't buy it, his mom did...

: Oh, I paid for it alright. Who do you thing did the farm work for 40 years?
: That would be me.

You inherited the property...

So what? Are you one of those socialist swine who believes that property
should be forfeited to the government on death? You sound like one.

: Besides, what does it matter in the first place? It doesn't, you're just
: engaging in yet more of that ad hominem attack you're famous for because you
: can't come up with a logical, rational, supportable argument to refute me.

I don't need to...

You can't.

I still believe in the following statement...

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.b...e4fbee3f2d294f
81/2fb520813d0b5cca?lnk=st&q=carrying+places+group%3A rec.boats.*+author%3Ajwn%40
ripco.com&rnum=2&hl=en#2fb520813d0b5cca

You're still wrong, and so is Chris. Boulder Creek is not a navigable water
of the United States, and Congress recognized that fact when it severed the
land from the public domain and titled it privately.


No state can enact a law that limits the Federal Governments ability to create
treaties with foreign nations...

Except that the treaty you allude to does not apply to Boulder Creek.

I think it's just a matter of time before
someone goes to court with a good lawyer and lots of research behind them...

You'd be right.

However, your navigability complaint has nothing whatever to do with the
issue here, which is the fact that you cannot formulate a cogent argument to
refute the issue of EAGLE NESTS and kayakers, which is what we're talking
about right now.

--
Regards,
Scott Weiser

"I love the Internet, I no longer have to depend on
friends, family and co-workers, I can annoy people WORLDWIDE!" TM

© 2005 Scott Weiser

Scott Weiser wrote:


However, your navigability complaint has nothing whatever to do with the
issue here, which is the fact that you cannot formulate a cogent argument to
refute the issue of EAGLE NESTS and kayakers, which is what we're talking
about right now.


The Arizona Game and Fish Department, in cooperation with federal
agencies, Native American Tribal groups, private organizations and
individuals, manages a bald eagle recovery and monitoring effort in
Arizona. They publish a list of eagle closure areas when eagles are
breeding in the state. Some closure areas forbid any access, other
closure areas forbid foot and vehicle traffic, but remain open to
"boating through," which forbids stopping or landing in the closure
area; See:
http://www.azgfd.gov/artman/publish/article_426.shtml

The Southwestern Bald Eagle Management Committee (SWBEMC)coordinates
the bald eagle conservation efforts of many government, tribal and
private agencies and organizations in Arizona; See:
http://www.swbemc.org/committee.html

The Committee publishes yearly reports and data on bald eagle recovery
and conservation in Arizona. Of interest to canoeists, kayakers and
boaters in general are the annual Arizona Nes****ch Program Summary
Reports. These reports categorize all human activity (mostly
recreational) within 1 km of a nesting site, and the eagles' response.

Some of these reports specifically mention kayaks/canoes, rafts and
tubes. Other reports are more generalized, referring simply to boats
or watercraft. Each annual report has a table near the end that
summarizes the human activity and level of eagle response; See:
http://www.swbemc.org/yearly_reports.html

Also included in the reports and data are results of the Survey of
Public Opinions About Arizona's Bald Eagle Management Program. Among
the very few negative responses in the "additional comments" section
of the 2001 survey is this: "Bald eagles nest on a golf course in
Colorado. Why do they need so much protection in Arizona?" See (p.13
of the .pdf formatted document):
http://www.swbemc.org/pdf/NGTR_183.A...urvey.2001.pdf





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