"NOYB" wrote in message news:kxEhf.3400

...instead of making a token gesture in the backyard of Bush's 2004
political opponent just to take a jab at Bush.

It's ironic, though, that he singled out the folks in Massachusetts (a
very "Blue" state) as those most in need of help.

Ya gotta know the territory.........

Joe Kennedy (former MA Congressman, Bobby's son, Teddy's nephew) has been
distributing discounted heating oil in MA for years through his Citizen's
Energy Corp. Its a great company that he set up on his own initiative, and
it does real good directly among those who need the help, without he
truckloads of administrative crap that customarily go with such plans. Even
though he supposedly left public life some years ago to keep his family out
of range of the newsas*$oles and to run Citizen's Energy, Joe is perennially
touted as a likely candidate for Governor.... Senator....Congress.....
VP....take your pick.... because he is very smart, articulate, photogenic,
common sensible (insofar as a dem is able bg) and has an inarguable track
record as a successful leader in both private and public sectors. With the
Kennedy name in MA, he is, in short, the 800 lb gorilla, whether he declares
or not.

Bill Delahunt had been a reasonably well known and successful local hack/pol
for many years until he managed to get himself into Congress some years ago.
Now that he's got a Federal meal ticket, Delahunt has aspirations. He
suffers, however, from the standard malady of a lot of pols -- he's a stiff
when speaking ex temp on the stump. But the Kennedys were born with that
gene. (Its the blarney, I guess) Any Dem in MA with statewide or federal
aspirations lives in fear that Joe K may decide to climb back into the ring.
There's no doubt in my mind that this oil deal, while likely (potentially)
doing someone some good, was conceived as a way to portray Delahunt on a par
with Kennedy in at least one area, or to try to neutralize just one of the
factors that would make Joe Kennedy a friendly candidate to so many folks
here.

On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 12:12:16 -0500, John Gaquin wrote:


to portray Delahunt on a par with Kennedy in at least one area, or to try
to neutralize just one of the factors that would make Joe Kennedy a
friendly candidate to so many folks here.

Perhaps, but I would expect Delahunt is just an accidental beneficiary of
Chavez's "geopolitical weapon". Chavez has been using Venezuela's oil
wealth to expand his influence in the Americas, and to undercut American
"imperialism". He just loves to tweak our noses. Robertson calls for his
assassination, and he responds with "cheap oil".

http://news.tradingcharts.com/futures/7/2/72524327.html

"thunder" wrote in message

Perhaps, but I would expect Delahunt is just an accidental beneficiary of
Chavez's "geopolitical weapon".

Perhaps. You may well be right. Even if initiated by Chavez, however, I
suspect the choice of Delahunt as his mark was not wholly accidental.

On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 12:59:06 -0500, John Gaquin wrote:


"thunder" wrote in message

Perhaps, but I would expect Delahunt is just an accidental beneficiary
of Chavez's "geopolitical weapon".

Perhaps. You may well be right. Even if initiated by Chavez, however, I
suspect the choice of Delahunt as his mark was not wholly accidental.

I wouldn't argue that. Someone ought to tell NewsMax, though. Delahunt
isn't even mentioned.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2...2/171616.shtml

"thunder" wrote in message
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Perhaps, but I would expect Delahunt is just an accidental beneficiary of
Chavez's "geopolitical weapon". Chavez has been using Venezuela's oil
wealth to expand his influence in the Americas, and to undercut American
"imperialism". He just loves to tweak our noses. Robertson calls for his
assassination, and he responds with "cheap oil".


You betcha ... and a stupid beneficiary he proves to be. God, do I dislike
politicians.

Eisboch

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"NOYB" wrote in message news:kxEhf.3400

...instead of making a token gesture in the backyard of Bush's 2004
political opponent just to take a jab at Bush.

It's ironic, though, that he singled out the folks in Massachusetts (a
very "Blue" state) as those most in need of help.

Ya gotta know the territory.........

You must be very uncomfortable living in the bluest state in the union,
especially with the high level of education.

How can you stand to stay there?

jps

"jps" wrote in message

You must be very uncomfortable living in the bluest state in the union,
especially with the high level of education.

How can you stand to stay there?

Its home, and politics is the #1 sport. Why should I be uncomfortable with
the ed level? If I left, I'd lower the average.

On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 00:36:34 -0500, "John Gaquin"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message

You must be very uncomfortable living in the bluest state in the union,
especially with the high level of education.

How can you stand to stay there?

Its home, and politics is the #1 sport. Why should I be uncomfortable with
the ed level? If I left, I'd lower the average.


LOL!
--
John H

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"

A Famous Self-obsessed Hypocrite

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"jps" wrote in message

You must be very uncomfortable living in the bluest state in the union,
especially with the high level of education.

How can you stand to stay there?

Its home, and politics is the #1 sport. Why should I be uncomfortable with
the ed level? If I left, I'd lower the average.

Right...I see. The reason Massachusetts is among the highest mean IQ
states in the country is that the largely Democrat population is offset
by an infinitesimal, yet astronomically intelligent number of
Republicans.

Makes perfect sense John.

Now, if you could just figure out a weighted average for voting, like
voting shares in a corporation, you could get Republicans to repeal all
those laws and circumstances that've made Massachusetts so successful
and turn it into model Republican state. That's just what we need,
Mississippi in the Northeast.

jps

"jps" wrote in message

Right...I see. The reason Massachusetts is among the highest mean IQ
states in the country is that the largely Democrat population is offset
by an infinitesimal, yet astronomically intelligent number of
Republicans.

Makes perfect sense John.

I didn't say that at all, but you are free to believe what you will. I
speak only for myself.



Now, if you could just figure out a weighted average for voting, like
voting shares in a corporation,

The PRC keeps trying systems like that from time to time -- weighted voting,
proportional voting, multiple votes - anything that can be manipulated to
give advantage to the academic and welfare communities at the expense of the
working middle class. None of their attempts ever work worth a damn.


those laws and circumstances that've made Massachusetts so successful

Massachusetts successful? Never for more than a few years concurrent. The
Great and General Court (the State Legislature - House: 137D-23R, Senate:
34D-6R) constantly tries to foist more and more freebie programs into the
budget. It is only because we seem to have a habit of electing Republican
governors most of the time that we can *sometimes* hold the give-aways in
check. But inevitably, after a few years of a prospering business
environment, the legislature goes crazy and blows the cash on another social
program so that when, again inevitably, the business cycle dips, they are
forced to cut, and cut they do - but never the social programs, oh no, road
maintenance, plowing, cleanup, rebate to towns, police, fire
dept....anything but the sacred cow social programs. Massachusetts
successful? Not really. Massachusetts runs like a sine wave. The only
reason some businesses operate here is the highly educated and skilled labor
supply. Others, like auto insurance underwriters, operate here because the
State forces them to by threatening to disallow other forms of coverage if
they refuse to take on auto business. etc., etc., etc........