NOYB
 

Gene Kearns wrote:

Skipper wrote:

Gene Kearns wrote:

A Grady-White! Are you crazy? "If you enjoy the kind of hull that
rattles the fillings in your teeth, scares your kids, makes your
guests hold on to anything they can and generally promotes white
knuckle boating buy a Grady White." Or so says our local boatless
genius Skipper.

You seem to have a bit of knowledge regarding Gradys and their renowned
wet pounding rides. Care to elucidate?

Gladly. Mine isn't wet. NOYB claimed to have one that he said rode
wet. We disagreed.

Well.....that certainly clears that up!

--
Skipper

NOYB
 

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 17:30:20 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...e300Marlin.jpg


wrote in message
groups.com...
Take a picture of your new boat, sounds like a hell of a fishing vessel.



A Grady-White! Are you crazy? "If you enjoy the kind of hull that
rattles the fillings in your teeth, scares your kids, makes your
guests hold on to anything they can and generally promotes white
knuckle boating buy a Grady White." Or so says our local boatless
genius Skipper.

He's *really* going to be disappointed in you.... :-(

Anyway..... *I* think it is a really nice boat and I'm sure you and
the family will enjoy it!

PS....
In the future, no bitching about a "wet ride" allowed.


Gene,
It's a completely different hull than that 1991 Gulfstream 232 that I used
to own. It just eats up 3-5 foot seas, and is very dry. I went out today,
an was looking at breaking 3-5 footers stacked up firectly in the pass (you
call them "inlets" on the East Coast) with a strong outgoing tide and a
strong onshore breeze. The new boat just powered right through it at about
18-20 knots.


I always liked the build quality and the layouts of the Grady's. I wasn't
happy with the ride in my older 23, but the Gulf by me gets more of a chop
and less of a rolling-type sea like you see on the Atlantic...which begs for
a deeper V boat in the fore and mid sections. The SeaV2 hull provides a
very nice ride.

NOYB
 

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 18:07:38 -0600, Skipper wrote:

Gene Kearns wrote:

A Grady-White! Are you crazy? "If you enjoy the kind of hull that
rattles the fillings in your teeth, scares your kids, makes your
guests hold on to anything they can and generally promotes white
knuckle boating buy a Grady White." Or so says our local boatless
genius Skipper.

PS....
In the future, no bitching about a "wet ride" allowed.

You seem to have a bit of knowledge regarding Gradys and their renowned
wet pounding rides. Care to elucidate?

Gladly. Mine isn't wet. NOYB claimed to have one that he said rode
wet. We disagreed. Apparently he wasn't significantly put off not to
plunk down some serious money to buy another... right?

Why not ask him why he didn't buy a Bayliner or Trophy?

Hint: As of June 3, 2003 he has already attested to the following:

""These two paragraphs I think best summarize the
Bayliner brand:


FACT: Bayliners are not overbuilt but are purpose built and should not
be confused with boats that offer higher quality lamination schedules,
vinyls, hardware, trim, gauges etc. at higher prices.


(ie--Parker, Boston Whaler, Grady White, etc.)


FACT: Bayliners are not the best built boats but do offer many
thousands of people the ability to afford to enjoy one of our greatest
past times.

"Bayliners are not the best built boats..." "

Sorry, Skipper, you lose again.... :-(



I'd never buy a Bayliner. In fact, I stayed away from the Amberjack because
when I thumped on the sides, it felt and sounded too much like the Bayliner.
And I recall seeing the picture of that 46 foot Sea Ray whose bow turned to
power on impact with a river imbankment at 15 mph.


The new Trophies are decent-looking boats that use vinylester resins, chrome
over bronze through-hulls, and a myriad of other higher-end products. But
go thump on the sides of one those Trophies. And make sure the sales guys
aren't around in case you put a dent in it.

NOYB
 

NOYB wrote:

Gene,
It's a completely different hull than that 1991 Gulfstream 232 that I used
to own. It just eats up 3-5 foot seas, and is very dry. I went out today,
an was looking at breaking 3-5 footers stacked up firectly in the pass (you
call them "inlets" on the East Coast) with a strong outgoing tide and a
strong onshore breeze. The new boat just powered right through it at about
18-20 knots.

I always liked the build quality and the layouts of the Grady's. I wasn't
happy with the ride in my older 23, but the Gulf by me gets more of a chop
and less of a rolling-type sea like you see on the Atlantic...which begs for
a deeper V boat in the fore and mid sections. The SeaV2 hull provides a
very nice ride.

I'm not sure Gene realizes that that a 2252 has 21 degrees of deadrise
compared to the Grady's 19 degrees. That deadrise increase makes a
difference in taming choppy conditions. Perhaps he can read, review, and
learn a trick or two...perhaps not.

--
Skipper

NOYB
 

"Skipper" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:

Gene,
It's a completely different hull than that 1991 Gulfstream 232 that I
used
to own. It just eats up 3-5 foot seas, and is very dry. I went out
today,
an was looking at breaking 3-5 footers stacked up firectly in the pass
(you
call them "inlets" on the East Coast) with a strong outgoing tide and a
strong onshore breeze. The new boat just powered right through it at
about
18-20 knots.

I always liked the build quality and the layouts of the Grady's. I
wasn't
happy with the ride in my older 23, but the Gulf by me gets more of a
chop
and less of a rolling-type sea like you see on the Atlantic...which begs
for
a deeper V boat in the fore and mid sections. The SeaV2 hull provides a
very nice ride.

I'm not sure Gene realizes that that a 2252 has 21 degrees of deadrise
compared to the Grady's 19 degrees. That deadrise increase makes a
difference in taming choppy conditions. Perhaps he can read, review, and
learn a trick or two...perhaps not.

My Grady has a constantly variable deadrise. Since there is almost no
chance that my 12,000 boat will completely leave the water while running, I
seriously doubt that the 20 degree deadrise at the transom will matter much.
But the 30 degree deadrise amidiship will certainly matter. Of course, if I
had a smaller, lighter 22' Bayliner, I'd be concerned about the deadrise at
the transom too. But what would concern me the most is the lack of a
significant bow flare and bow freeboard on that boat...particularly when
heading into a breaking head sea.



"The 300 still rides on the SeaV2 hull that Grady and C. Raymond Hunt
Associates collaborated on and introduced back in 1989 as a solution to
softening the ride of smaller fiberglass boats in rough water. (It was the
300 that first launched the SeaV2 hull, again at the behest of customer
input.) The hull accomplishes this by providing a running surface where no
two places have the same deadrise: It's 20 degrees at the transom and 30
degrees amidships. Grady left the original sharp entry and was satisfied
with the way the strakes and chines knocked down spray. In addition, SeaV2
has a series of sea-cutting wedges that "also provide buoyancy as the boat
moves through or up and over waves," says Weller. "

http://powerandmotoryacht.com/boattests/0304gradywhite/

NOYB
 

NOYB wrote:

My Grady has a constantly variable deadrise.

Doesn't just about every boat depending hull pitch and speed?

--
Skipper

NOYB
 

On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 23:47:55 GMT, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 13:44:02 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

*JimH* wrote:
"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...e300Marlin.jpg


wrote in message
oups.com...
Take a picture of your new boat, sounds like a hell of a fishing vessel.




Let's see a picture of your boat Kevin.




Kevin said he'd post a photo after Smithers and Skipper posted photos of
their boats.

Ok.... what's going on here? I bitched at Jim, now you're doing it. Is
my newsreader screwing up or are you guys OT responding to (dead)
threads that are 4 months old?

You bitched at me. I didn't see your bitch at Jim. But, I deserved your
bitch. So, I'm trying not to destroy this thread.

I had a 15' Center Console Boston Whaler. I loved it, but got orders to go
to Germany and couldn't take it with me. So I sold it. I wish I'd put it in
storage for the four years I was overseas so I could use it for a play boat
on the Potomac.


--
John H

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"

A Famous Hypocrite

NOYB
 

On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 00:41:24 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:


"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 17:30:20 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...e300Marlin.jpg


wrote in message
egroups.com...
Take a picture of your new boat, sounds like a hell of a fishing vessel.



A Grady-White! Are you crazy? "If you enjoy the kind of hull that
rattles the fillings in your teeth, scares your kids, makes your
guests hold on to anything they can and generally promotes white
knuckle boating buy a Grady White." Or so says our local boatless
genius Skipper.

He's *really* going to be disappointed in you.... :-(

Anyway..... *I* think it is a really nice boat and I'm sure you and
the family will enjoy it!

PS....
In the future, no bitching about a "wet ride" allowed.


Gene,
It's a completely different hull than that 1991 Gulfstream 232 that I used
to own. It just eats up 3-5 foot seas, and is very dry. I went out today,
an was looking at breaking 3-5 footers stacked up firectly in the pass (you
call them "inlets" on the East Coast) with a strong outgoing tide and a
strong onshore breeze. The new boat just powered right through it at about
18-20 knots.


I always liked the build quality and the layouts of the Grady's. I wasn't
happy with the ride in my older 23, but the Gulf by me gets more of a chop
and less of a rolling-type sea like you see on the Atlantic...which begs for
a deeper V boat in the fore and mid sections. The SeaV2 hull provides a
very nice ride.


I stop at Harry's dealer, TriState Marine, and climb over their Gradys
about once every two or three weeks. They are gorgeous boats, and the
quality of their construction is readily apparent. If I weren't such a
miser, I'd have one in a minute.
--
John H

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"

A Famous Hypocrite

NOYB
 

Skipper wrote:
Gene Kearns wrote:


Skipper wrote:


Gene Kearns wrote:


A Grady-White! Are you crazy? "If you enjoy the kind of hull that
rattles the fillings in your teeth, scares your kids, makes your
guests hold on to anything they can and generally promotes white
knuckle boating buy a Grady White." Or so says our local boatless
genius Skipper.


You seem to have a bit of knowledge regarding Gradys and their renowned
wet pounding rides. Care to elucidate?

Gladly. Mine isn't wet. NOYB claimed to have one that he said rode
wet. We disagreed.


Well.....that certainly clears that up!

--
Skipper

Damn. I forgot that YOU are the KING of Google AND selective quoting in
addition to starting new threads with old threads.

Weird stuff, Dave.

NOYB
 

Harry Krause wrote:

I'm not sure Gene realizes that that a 2252 has 21 degrees of deadrise
compared to the Grady's 19 degrees. That deadrise increase makes a
difference in taming choppy conditions. Perhaps he can read, review, and
learn a trick or two...perhaps not.

Deadrise is only one of many factors determining how some boats
rides in the chop...

Didn't those admittedly wet riding and hard pounding Sea Pros of yours
have an 18 degree deadrise?

--
Skipper