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"NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...e300Marlin.jpg wrote in message oups.com... Take a picture of your new boat, sounds like a hell of a fishing vessel. Let's see a picture of your boat Kevin. |
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... *JimH* wrote: "NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...e300Marlin.jpg wrote in message oups.com... Take a picture of your new boat, sounds like a hell of a fishing vessel. Let's see a picture of your boat Kevin. Kevin said he'd post a photo after Smithers and Skipper posted photos of their boats. No he didn't. I doubt he even owns a boat. |
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Harry,
I will put videos and pictures of my boat, my home (including home address and phone number), my wife and kids on the internet as soon as you post pictures of your Lobster Boat. "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... *JimH* wrote: "NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...e300Marlin.jpg wrote in message oups.com... Take a picture of your new boat, sounds like a hell of a fishing vessel. Let's see a picture of your boat Kevin. Kevin said he'd post a photo after Smithers and Skipper posted photos of their boats. -- Bush-Cheney: Over A Billion Whoppers Served! |
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... *JimH* wrote: "NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...e300Marlin.jpg wrote in message oups.com... Take a picture of your new boat, sounds like a hell of a fishing vessel. Let's see a picture of your boat Kevin. Kevin said he'd post a photo after Smithers and Skipper posted photos of their boats. Right now, I own three different boats: a 17' Whaler, a 25' Whaler, and now the 30' Grady. The 25' Whaler is going up for sale as soon as I get it cleaned up. I haven't even had time to give it a good scrubbing since Hurricane Wilma went through. My brother has an 18' Outrage with a 4-stroke Suzuki. It's perfect for towing to the other coast for near-shore trolling when the sails and dolphin are in close to shore. It's much cheaper (and quicker) to hook that up to the back of my SUV, and trailer it across to an area of Florida where it's only a 5-10 mile run to the 100 fathom curve. I'd have to run the Grady out over 100 miles into the Gulf...or 120 miles south to the Keys...to see the same depths where the pelagics hang out. I thought about selling my 17' Whaler and just using my brother's boat when I "need" a smaller boat. But I decided to keep it for backwater fishing, and to tow to areas where it's impractical (or too expensive) to take the big boat. I keep it in the garage, so it stays in like-new condition. When my kids get a little older, that will become "their" boat to use. I couldn't replace that boat today for less than $35k if I bought a new one. The latest 17' Montauk is a nice boat, but it doesn't have a built-in livewell, nor built-in fuel tanks. My Outrage has both...with the fuel tank holding 34 gallons. With that much fuel on board, I have a range of about 90-120 miles. On the Gulf Coast of Florida, you really "need" two different style boats to fish for everything that you can catch over here. The 17-footer will be my tarpon/redfish/snook/sheepshead boat. The 30-footer will be my grouper/amberjack/kingfish/blackfin tuna boat...and for running to the Keys. |
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NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... *JimH* wrote: "NOYB" wrote in message hlink.net... http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...e300Marlin.jpg wrote in message legroups.com... Take a picture of your new boat, sounds like a hell of a fishing vessel. Let's see a picture of your boat Kevin. Kevin said he'd post a photo after Smithers and Skipper posted photos of their boats. Right now, I own three different boats: a 17' Whaler, a 25' Whaler, and now the 30' Grady. The 25' Whaler is going up for sale as soon as I get it cleaned up. I haven't even had time to give it a good scrubbing since Hurricane Wilma went through. My brother has an 18' Outrage with a 4-stroke Suzuki. It's perfect for towing to the other coast for near-shore trolling when the sails and dolphin are in close to shore. It's much cheaper (and quicker) to hook that up to the back of my SUV, and trailer it across to an area of Florida where it's only a 5-10 mile run to the 100 fathom curve. I'd have to run the Grady out over 100 miles into the Gulf...or 120 miles south to the Keys...to see the same depths where the pelagics hang out. I thought about selling my 17' Whaler and just using my brother's boat when I "need" a smaller boat. But I decided to keep it for backwater fishing, and to tow to areas where it's impractical (or too expensive) to take the big boat. I keep it in the garage, so it stays in like-new condition. When my kids get a little older, that will become "their" boat to use. I couldn't replace that boat today for less than $35k if I bought a new one. The latest 17' Montauk is a nice boat, but it doesn't have a built-in livewell, nor built-in fuel tanks. My Outrage has both...with the fuel tank holding 34 gallons. With that much fuel on board, I have a range of about 90-120 miles. On the Gulf Coast of Florida, you really "need" two different style boats to fish for everything that you can catch over here. The 17-footer will be my tarpon/redfish/snook/sheepshead boat. The 30-footer will be my grouper/amberjack/kingfish/blackfin tuna boat...and for running to the Keys. I think I have asked you this at least once, but honestly I forgot the answer. What part of SW Florida you in? We are in Cape Coral, run a 24 ft Everglades. Big enough for running to Key West, yet small enough to run in shallow water too. Also have a pair of Cobra Tourer kayaks for getting real skinny. Caught a couple of reds and snook late weekend. This weekend taking the whole fleet to Captive Island for a few days. |
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"DownTime" wrote in message ... NOYB wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... *JimH* wrote: "NOYB" wrote in message thlink.net... http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...e300Marlin.jpg wrote in message glegroups.com... Take a picture of your new boat, sounds like a hell of a fishing vessel. Let's see a picture of your boat Kevin. Kevin said he'd post a photo after Smithers and Skipper posted photos of their boats. Right now, I own three different boats: a 17' Whaler, a 25' Whaler, and now the 30' Grady. The 25' Whaler is going up for sale as soon as I get it cleaned up. I haven't even had time to give it a good scrubbing since Hurricane Wilma went through. My brother has an 18' Outrage with a 4-stroke Suzuki. It's perfect for towing to the other coast for near-shore trolling when the sails and dolphin are in close to shore. It's much cheaper (and quicker) to hook that up to the back of my SUV, and trailer it across to an area of Florida where it's only a 5-10 mile run to the 100 fathom curve. I'd have to run the Grady out over 100 miles into the Gulf...or 120 miles south to the Keys...to see the same depths where the pelagics hang out. I thought about selling my 17' Whaler and just using my brother's boat when I "need" a smaller boat. But I decided to keep it for backwater fishing, and to tow to areas where it's impractical (or too expensive) to take the big boat. I keep it in the garage, so it stays in like-new condition. When my kids get a little older, that will become "their" boat to use. I couldn't replace that boat today for less than $35k if I bought a new one. The latest 17' Montauk is a nice boat, but it doesn't have a built-in livewell, nor built-in fuel tanks. My Outrage has both...with the fuel tank holding 34 gallons. With that much fuel on board, I have a range of about 90-120 miles. On the Gulf Coast of Florida, you really "need" two different style boats to fish for everything that you can catch over here. The 17-footer will be my tarpon/redfish/snook/sheepshead boat. The 30-footer will be my grouper/amberjack/kingfish/blackfin tuna boat...and for running to the Keys. I think I have asked you this at least once, but honestly I forgot the answer. What part of SW Florida you in? Naples. We are in Cape Coral, run a 24 ft Everglades. Big enough for running to Key West, yet small enough to run in shallow water too. That Everglades is a beautiful boat. The designer, Bob Dougherty, also designed my 25' Whaler hull. Boston Whaler still uses the same hull design in the 25' Guardian...but it is only available from the Commercial Products Division...and not the recreational line. |
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"DownTime" wrote in message ... NOYB wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... *JimH* wrote: "NOYB" wrote in message rthlink.net... http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...e300Marlin.jpg wrote in message oglegroups.com... Take a picture of your new boat, sounds like a hell of a fishing vessel. Let's see a picture of your boat Kevin. Kevin said he'd post a photo after Smithers and Skipper posted photos of their boats. Right now, I own three different boats: a 17' Whaler, a 25' Whaler, and now the 30' Grady. The 25' Whaler is going up for sale as soon as I get it cleaned up. I haven't even had time to give it a good scrubbing since Hurricane Wilma went through. My brother has an 18' Outrage with a 4-stroke Suzuki. It's perfect for towing to the other coast for near-shore trolling when the sails and dolphin are in close to shore. It's much cheaper (and quicker) to hook that up to the back of my SUV, and trailer it across to an area of Florida where it's only a 5-10 mile run to the 100 fathom curve. I'd have to run the Grady out over 100 miles into the Gulf...or 120 miles south to the Keys...to see the same depths where the pelagics hang out. I thought about selling my 17' Whaler and just using my brother's boat when I "need" a smaller boat. But I decided to keep it for backwater fishing, and to tow to areas where it's impractical (or too expensive) to take the big boat. I keep it in the garage, so it stays in like-new condition. When my kids get a little older, that will become "their" boat to use. I couldn't replace that boat today for less than $35k if I bought a new one. The latest 17' Montauk is a nice boat, but it doesn't have a built-in livewell, nor built-in fuel tanks. My Outrage has both...with the fuel tank holding 34 gallons. With that much fuel on board, I have a range of about 90-120 miles. On the Gulf Coast of Florida, you really "need" two different style boats to fish for everything that you can catch over here. The 17-footer will be my tarpon/redfish/snook/sheepshead boat. The 30-footer will be my grouper/amberjack/kingfish/blackfin tuna boat...and for running to the Keys. I think I have asked you this at least once, but honestly I forgot the answer. What part of SW Florida you in? Naples. We are in Cape Coral, run a 24 ft Everglades. Big enough for running to Key West, yet small enough to run in shallow water too. That Everglades is a beautiful boat. The designer, Bob Dougherty, also designed my 25' Whaler hull. Boston Whaler still uses the same hull design in the 25' Guardian...but it is only available from the Commercial Products Division...and not the recreational line. Yes, all Everglades owners / fans are aware of that connection. The boats they produce have loads of great design features. Actually, I recently met Mr. Dougherty and his son and the first annual Everglades owner's rendevous held at Tarpon Lodge. |
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Gene Kearns wrote:
A Grady-White! Are you crazy? "If you enjoy the kind of hull that rattles the fillings in your teeth, scares your kids, makes your guests hold on to anything they can and generally promotes white knuckle boating buy a Grady White." Or so says our local boatless genius Skipper. PS.... In the future, no bitching about a "wet ride" allowed. You seem to have a bit of knowledge regarding Gradys and their renowned wet pounding rides. Care to elucidate? -- Skipper |
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Gene Kearns wrote:
Skipper wrote: Gene Kearns wrote: A Grady-White! Are you crazy? "If you enjoy the kind of hull that rattles the fillings in your teeth, scares your kids, makes your guests hold on to anything they can and generally promotes white knuckle boating buy a Grady White." Or so says our local boatless genius Skipper. You seem to have a bit of knowledge regarding Gradys and their renowned wet pounding rides. Care to elucidate? Gladly. Mine isn't wet. NOYB claimed to have one that he said rode wet. We disagreed. Well.....that certainly clears that up! -- Skipper |
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"Gene Kearns" wrote in message ... On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 17:30:20 GMT, "NOYB" wrote: http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...e300Marlin.jpg wrote in message groups.com... Take a picture of your new boat, sounds like a hell of a fishing vessel. A Grady-White! Are you crazy? "If you enjoy the kind of hull that rattles the fillings in your teeth, scares your kids, makes your guests hold on to anything they can and generally promotes white knuckle boating buy a Grady White." Or so says our local boatless genius Skipper. He's *really* going to be disappointed in you.... :-( Anyway..... *I* think it is a really nice boat and I'm sure you and the family will enjoy it! PS.... In the future, no bitching about a "wet ride" allowed. Gene, It's a completely different hull than that 1991 Gulfstream 232 that I used to own. It just eats up 3-5 foot seas, and is very dry. I went out today, an was looking at breaking 3-5 footers stacked up firectly in the pass (you call them "inlets" on the East Coast) with a strong outgoing tide and a strong onshore breeze. The new boat just powered right through it at about 18-20 knots. I always liked the build quality and the layouts of the Grady's. I wasn't happy with the ride in my older 23, but the Gulf by me gets more of a chop and less of a rolling-type sea like you see on the Atlantic...which begs for a deeper V boat in the fore and mid sections. The SeaV2 hull provides a very nice ride. |
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"Gene Kearns" wrote in message ... On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 18:07:38 -0600, Skipper wrote: Gene Kearns wrote: A Grady-White! Are you crazy? "If you enjoy the kind of hull that rattles the fillings in your teeth, scares your kids, makes your guests hold on to anything they can and generally promotes white knuckle boating buy a Grady White." Or so says our local boatless genius Skipper. PS.... In the future, no bitching about a "wet ride" allowed. You seem to have a bit of knowledge regarding Gradys and their renowned wet pounding rides. Care to elucidate? Gladly. Mine isn't wet. NOYB claimed to have one that he said rode wet. We disagreed. Apparently he wasn't significantly put off not to plunk down some serious money to buy another... right? Why not ask him why he didn't buy a Bayliner or Trophy? Hint: As of June 3, 2003 he has already attested to the following: ""These two paragraphs I think best summarize the Bayliner brand: FACT: Bayliners are not overbuilt but are purpose built and should not be confused with boats that offer higher quality lamination schedules, vinyls, hardware, trim, gauges etc. at higher prices. (ie--Parker, Boston Whaler, Grady White, etc.) FACT: Bayliners are not the best built boats but do offer many thousands of people the ability to afford to enjoy one of our greatest past times. "Bayliners are not the best built boats..." " Sorry, Skipper, you lose again.... :-( I'd never buy a Bayliner. In fact, I stayed away from the Amberjack because when I thumped on the sides, it felt and sounded too much like the Bayliner. And I recall seeing the picture of that 46 foot Sea Ray whose bow turned to power on impact with a river imbankment at 15 mph. The new Trophies are decent-looking boats that use vinylester resins, chrome over bronze through-hulls, and a myriad of other higher-end products. But go thump on the sides of one those Trophies. And make sure the sales guys aren't around in case you put a dent in it. |
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NOYB wrote:
Gene, It's a completely different hull than that 1991 Gulfstream 232 that I used to own. It just eats up 3-5 foot seas, and is very dry. I went out today, an was looking at breaking 3-5 footers stacked up firectly in the pass (you call them "inlets" on the East Coast) with a strong outgoing tide and a strong onshore breeze. The new boat just powered right through it at about 18-20 knots. I always liked the build quality and the layouts of the Grady's. I wasn't happy with the ride in my older 23, but the Gulf by me gets more of a chop and less of a rolling-type sea like you see on the Atlantic...which begs for a deeper V boat in the fore and mid sections. The SeaV2 hull provides a very nice ride. I'm not sure Gene realizes that that a 2252 has 21 degrees of deadrise compared to the Grady's 19 degrees. That deadrise increase makes a difference in taming choppy conditions. Perhaps he can read, review, and learn a trick or two...perhaps not. -- Skipper |
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"Skipper" wrote in message ... NOYB wrote: Gene, It's a completely different hull than that 1991 Gulfstream 232 that I used to own. It just eats up 3-5 foot seas, and is very dry. I went out today, an was looking at breaking 3-5 footers stacked up firectly in the pass (you call them "inlets" on the East Coast) with a strong outgoing tide and a strong onshore breeze. The new boat just powered right through it at about 18-20 knots. I always liked the build quality and the layouts of the Grady's. I wasn't happy with the ride in my older 23, but the Gulf by me gets more of a chop and less of a rolling-type sea like you see on the Atlantic...which begs for a deeper V boat in the fore and mid sections. The SeaV2 hull provides a very nice ride. I'm not sure Gene realizes that that a 2252 has 21 degrees of deadrise compared to the Grady's 19 degrees. That deadrise increase makes a difference in taming choppy conditions. Perhaps he can read, review, and learn a trick or two...perhaps not. My Grady has a constantly variable deadrise. Since there is almost no chance that my 12,000 boat will completely leave the water while running, I seriously doubt that the 20 degree deadrise at the transom will matter much. But the 30 degree deadrise amidiship will certainly matter. Of course, if I had a smaller, lighter 22' Bayliner, I'd be concerned about the deadrise at the transom too. But what would concern me the most is the lack of a significant bow flare and bow freeboard on that boat...particularly when heading into a breaking head sea. "The 300 still rides on the SeaV2 hull that Grady and C. Raymond Hunt Associates collaborated on and introduced back in 1989 as a solution to softening the ride of smaller fiberglass boats in rough water. (It was the 300 that first launched the SeaV2 hull, again at the behest of customer input.) The hull accomplishes this by providing a running surface where no two places have the same deadrise: It's 20 degrees at the transom and 30 degrees amidships. Grady left the original sharp entry and was satisfied with the way the strakes and chines knocked down spray. In addition, SeaV2 has a series of sea-cutting wedges that "also provide buoyancy as the boat moves through or up and over waves," says Weller. " http://powerandmotoryacht.com/boattests/0304gradywhite/ |
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NOYB wrote:
My Grady has a constantly variable deadrise. Doesn't just about every boat depending hull pitch and speed? -- Skipper |
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On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 23:47:55 GMT, Gene Kearns
wrote: On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 13:44:02 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: *JimH* wrote: "NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...e300Marlin.jpg wrote in message oups.com... Take a picture of your new boat, sounds like a hell of a fishing vessel. Let's see a picture of your boat Kevin. Kevin said he'd post a photo after Smithers and Skipper posted photos of their boats. Ok.... what's going on here? I bitched at Jim, now you're doing it. Is my newsreader screwing up or are you guys OT responding to (dead) threads that are 4 months old? You bitched at me. I didn't see your bitch at Jim. But, I deserved your bitch. So, I'm trying not to destroy this thread. I had a 15' Center Console Boston Whaler. I loved it, but got orders to go to Germany and couldn't take it with me. So I sold it. I wish I'd put it in storage for the four years I was overseas so I could use it for a play boat on the Potomac. -- John H "It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!" A Famous Hypocrite |
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On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 00:41:24 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:
"Gene Kearns" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 17:30:20 GMT, "NOYB" wrote: http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...e300Marlin.jpg wrote in message egroups.com... Take a picture of your new boat, sounds like a hell of a fishing vessel. A Grady-White! Are you crazy? "If you enjoy the kind of hull that rattles the fillings in your teeth, scares your kids, makes your guests hold on to anything they can and generally promotes white knuckle boating buy a Grady White." Or so says our local boatless genius Skipper. He's *really* going to be disappointed in you.... :-( Anyway..... *I* think it is a really nice boat and I'm sure you and the family will enjoy it! PS.... In the future, no bitching about a "wet ride" allowed. Gene, It's a completely different hull than that 1991 Gulfstream 232 that I used to own. It just eats up 3-5 foot seas, and is very dry. I went out today, an was looking at breaking 3-5 footers stacked up firectly in the pass (you call them "inlets" on the East Coast) with a strong outgoing tide and a strong onshore breeze. The new boat just powered right through it at about 18-20 knots. I always liked the build quality and the layouts of the Grady's. I wasn't happy with the ride in my older 23, but the Gulf by me gets more of a chop and less of a rolling-type sea like you see on the Atlantic...which begs for a deeper V boat in the fore and mid sections. The SeaV2 hull provides a very nice ride. I stop at Harry's dealer, TriState Marine, and climb over their Gradys about once every two or three weeks. They are gorgeous boats, and the quality of their construction is readily apparent. If I weren't such a miser, I'd have one in a minute. -- John H "It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!" A Famous Hypocrite |
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Skipper wrote:
Gene Kearns wrote: Skipper wrote: Gene Kearns wrote: A Grady-White! Are you crazy? "If you enjoy the kind of hull that rattles the fillings in your teeth, scares your kids, makes your guests hold on to anything they can and generally promotes white knuckle boating buy a Grady White." Or so says our local boatless genius Skipper. You seem to have a bit of knowledge regarding Gradys and their renowned wet pounding rides. Care to elucidate? Gladly. Mine isn't wet. NOYB claimed to have one that he said rode wet. We disagreed. Well.....that certainly clears that up! -- Skipper Damn. I forgot that YOU are the KING of Google AND selective quoting in addition to starting new threads with old threads. Weird stuff, Dave. |
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Harry Krause wrote:
I'm not sure Gene realizes that that a 2252 has 21 degrees of deadrise compared to the Grady's 19 degrees. That deadrise increase makes a difference in taming choppy conditions. Perhaps he can read, review, and learn a trick or two...perhaps not. Deadrise is only one of many factors determining how some boats rides in the chop... Didn't those admittedly wet riding and hard pounding Sea Pros of yours have an 18 degree deadrise? -- Skipper |
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Harry,
Even Chuck doesn't believe you own a Lobster Boat. "Harry Krause" wrote in message Chuck believes Skipper had such a boat, so I guess it is true. But without Chuck's saying so, I wouldn't believe for a moment Skipper owned that particular Bayliner half-day cruiser, or any other boat. I wouldn't go out of sight of shore in a Bayliner. Any Bayliner. -- Blind faith in Bush's bad leadership is not patriotism. |
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Gene Kearns wrote:
I'm not sure Gene realizes that that a 2252 has 21 degrees of deadrise compared to the Grady's 19 degrees. That deadrise increase makes a difference in taming choppy conditions. Perhaps he can read, review, and learn a trick or two...perhaps not. Gene is unimpressed that a...boat has a deadrise of 21 degrees... Wonder if Gene realizes that a 10-year-old Grady is basically a project boat in many ways? -- Skipper |
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"Skipper" wrote in message ... Gene Kearns wrote: I'm not sure Gene realizes that that a 2252 has 21 degrees of deadrise compared to the Grady's 19 degrees. That deadrise increase makes a difference in taming choppy conditions. Perhaps he can read, review, and learn a trick or two...perhaps not. Gene is unimpressed that a...boat has a deadrise of 21 degrees... Wonder if Gene realizes that a 10-year-old Grady is basically a project boat in many ways? -- Skipper How so Skipper? |
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*JimH* wrote: "NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...e300Marlin.jpg wrote in message oups.com... Take a picture of your new boat, sounds like a hell of a fishing vessel. Let's see a picture of your boat Kevin. I don't know if Kevin owns a boat. |
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wrote in message oups.com... *JimH* wrote: "NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...e300Marlin.jpg wrote in message oups.com... Take a picture of your new boat, sounds like a hell of a fishing vessel. Let's see a picture of your boat Kevin. I don't know if Kevin owns a boat. Obviously you don't. |
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wrote in message oups.com... *JimH* wrote: "NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...e300Marlin.jpg wrote in message oups.com... Take a picture of your new boat, sounds like a hell of a fishing vessel. Let's see a picture of your boat Kevin. I don't know if Kevin owns a boat. Ask Walter Irvin. He knows Kevin. |
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Is Walter Irwin the "fake" name Kevin tried to "inadvertently plant in
rec.boats when he supposedly cut and pasted an email he received? "NOYB" wrote in message ink.net... wrote in message oups.com... *JimH* wrote: "NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...e300Marlin.jpg wrote in message oups.com... Take a picture of your new boat, sounds like a hell of a fishing vessel. Let's see a picture of your boat Kevin. I don't know if Kevin owns a boat. Ask Walter Irvin. He knows Kevin. |
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"Sir Rodney Smithers" Ask me about my knighthood. wrote in message ... Is Walter Irwin the "fake" name Kevin tried to "inadvertently plant in rec.boats when he supposedly cut and pasted an email he received? That be him. |
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