On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 19:26:03 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 18:48:24 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 12:17:16 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

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My cat is smarter than your president.

...or it's owner.

If you are going to make snide remarks about someone's intelligence,
John, try to use the correct words, eh?

It's is the contraction for it is.
Its is the possessive.

Why Harry, you are absolutely right for a change!

Thank you for point out that boo-boo on my part.

Now, tell us about how Ann Richards was a Republican in disguise, or are
you going to keep the tail tucked?

edit: 'pointing' !!!
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John H

"It's *not* a baby kicking, beautiful bride, it's only a fetus!"

A Famous Hypocrite

Jesus: A Long Haired, Peace Loving, Anti Establishment, Liberal

And actually that isn't even correct

A) long haired

Nobody knows a thing about the length of his hair.
Even the Bysantine mosaics arn't "photographs"

B) Peace Loving

True and agreed!

C) Liberal

I doubt that. "Liberator" would be more correct. He even said He didn't
come to destroy the law...but to "Fulfill" it. Matt. 5:17-19

On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 19:28:26 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 18:48:24 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 12:17:16 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

--
My cat is smarter than your president.
...or it's owner.
If you are going to make snide remarks about someone's intelligence,
John, try to use the correct words, eh?

It's is the contraction for it is.
Its is the possessive.

Why Harry, you are absolutely right for a change!

Thank you for point out that boo-boo on my part.

Now, tell us about how Ann Richards was a Republican in disguise, or are
you going to keep the tail tucked?

I have no idea what you are talking about here, fella.

You don't remember this?

Executed man may have been innocent
Witness, co-defendant tell newspaper man wasn't guilty

HOUSTON, Texas (AP) -- Doubts are being cast on the guilt of a Texas man
executed more than a dozen years ago after the crime's lone witness
recanted and a co-defendant said he allowed his friend to be falsely
accused under police pressure, the Houston Chronicle reported Sunday.

Ruben Cantu was 17 in 1984 when he was charged with capital murder in
the fatal shooting of a man during an attempted robbery in San Antonio.
The victim was shot nine times with a rifle before the gunman unloaded
more rounds into the only eyewitness.

The eyewitness, Juan Moreno, told the Chronicle that it wasn't Cantu who
shot him. Moreno said he identified Cantu as the killer during his 1985
trial because he felt pressured and was afraid of authorities.

Meanwhile, Cantu's co-defendant, David Garza, recently signed a sworn
affidavit saying he allowed his friend to be accused, even though Cantu
wasn't with him the night of the killing.

Cantu was executed at age 26. He had long professed his innocence.

"Part of me died when he died," said Garza, who was 15 at the time of
the murder. "You've got a 17-year-old who went to his grave for
something he did not do. Texas murdered an innocent person."

Miriam Ward, forewoman of the jury that convicted Cantu, said the
panel's decision was the best they could do based on the information
presented during the trial.

"With a little extra work, a little extra effort, maybe we'd have gotten
the right information," Ward said. "The bottom line is, an innocent
person was put to death for it. We all have our finger in that."

Sam D. Millsap Jr., then the Bexar County district attorney who decided
to charge Cantu with capital murder, told the newspaper he never should
have sought the death penalty in a case based on testimony from an
eyewitness who identified a suspect only after police showed him Cantu's
photo three separate times.

On the night of the attack, 19-year-old Moreno and his friend,
25-year-old Pedro Gomez, were sleeping in a house they were helping
build for Moreno's brother. Burglars had recently struck, so they were
guarding the home, located across the street from the trailer where
Cantu lived.

Both were awoken by a pair of teenagers demanding money. The older of
the two carried a .22-caliber rifle. Gomez was killed; Moreno was shot
but survived.

Afterward, Moreno described his attackers as two Mexican-Americans he
thought lived nearby.

After a South San Antonio High School teacher mentioned that students
were saying Cantu had done the killing, police showed Moreno photos of
five Hispanic men, including Cantu. Moreno, however, did not identify
Cantu as his attacker and the case appeared closed.

About four months later, Cantu was involved in a bar shooting that
injured an off-duty police officer. Cantu said the shooting erupted over
a pool game and that he fired only when the officer flashed a gun and
threatened him. The officer later said Cantu shot him four times in an
unprovoked attack.

That case against Cantu was dropped.

"There was an overreaction, and some of the evidence may have been
tainted. It could not be prosecuted," said former homicide Sgt. Bill
Ewell, who oversaw the investigation.

Ewell, a friend of the officer, said the bar shooting prompted him to
reopen the Gomez murder case.

He sent a bilingual homicide detective to show Cantu's photo to Moreno
for the second time. Moreno still did not identify Cantu.

The next day, Ewell sent out a different bilingual detective who brought
Moreno, who was then an illegal immigrant, back to the police station.
Moreno was again shown Cantu's photo along with four others. The
officer's report indicates that Moreno picked out Cantu, then signed and
dated the back of the photo.

But the photo submitted into evidence at trial was not dated on the
back, according to trial transcripts. Moreno said he felt compelled to
do what police wanted, even though he knew it was wrong.

"The police were sure it was (Cantu) because he had hurt a police
officer," Moreno said in a recent interview. "They told me they were
certain it was him, and that's why I testified."

Ewell, now retired, told the Chronicle, "I'm confident the right people
were prosecuted."

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Ahh, Texas. Adopted home of George W. Bush, who also rushes to judgment
on the basis of incorrect information.



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Bush deserves a fair trial!
--
John H

"It's *not* a baby kicking, beautiful bride, it's only a fetus!"

A Famous Hypocrite

On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 19:28:26 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 18:48:24 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 12:17:16 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

--
My cat is smarter than your president.
...or it's owner.
If you are going to make snide remarks about someone's intelligence,
John, try to use the correct words, eh?

It's is the contraction for it is.
Its is the possessive.

Why Harry, you are absolutely right for a change!

Thank you for point out that boo-boo on my part.

Now, tell us about how Ann Richards was a Republican in disguise, or are
you going to keep the tail tucked?

I have no idea what you are talking about here, fella.

Perhaps bb is watching. He also fell for your tripe and made the following
post:

On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 22:23:16 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Executed man may have been innocent
Witness, co-defendant tell newspaper man wasn't guilty

That sh** makes me want to puke. How the right wingers (you out there
John H?) can condone such non-sense on innocent folkes just astounded
me.

bb
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John H

"It's *not* a baby kicking, beautiful bride, it's only a fetus!"

A Famous Hypocrite

On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 14:58:50 GMT, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 19:26:03 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 18:48:24 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 12:17:16 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

--
My cat is smarter than your president.

...or it's owner.

If you are going to make snide remarks about someone's intelligence,
John, try to use the correct words, eh?

It's is the contraction for it is.
Its is the possessive.

Why Harry, you are absolutely right for a change!

Thank you for point out that boo-boo on my part.

Now, tell us about how Ann Richards was a Republican in disguise, or are
you going to keep the tail tucked?

John,

I just killed this friggin thread once...... why would you repost it
to a totally unrelated thread to start this crap all over again?

Isn't this thread about Harry's cats?
--
John H

"It's *not* a baby kicking, beautiful bride, it's only a fetus!"

A Famous Hypocrite