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*JimH* November 29th 05 01:43 AM

The Truth About Harry
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
*JimH* wrote:

Why are you so concerned about my age? Are you planning on asking me out
on a date? Oh, and why don't you use the income number I provided? Why
are you working so hard to make it sound outlandish? It wasn't, not in
the ad biz in a major market in those days.


You are correct Harry. You said you earned $90,000/year in 1976. In
todays dollars that is $205,000/year.

What is the going rate for a senior account executive in their early to
mid 30's Harry? Does $200,000/year sound a bit over the edge?


As i stated yesterday. the ad agency changed drastically, beginning in the
mid-1980s, and the full-service agency business became less profitable. I
have no idea in any detail what ad agencies pay these days, but a friend
of mine who is in his 30's and working for the DC office of a big NY
agency makes about $150,000 a year. He supervises work on a couple of
large lobbying/PR accounts.

My job title from those days has evolved, too. Today, if I were still in
the biz and working at a big agency, I'd be called either director of
client services or group account supervisor, or some such nonsense.

Another friend who was creative director of a large DC-NY-LA agency was
making about $500,000 a year until he quit two years ago to open his own
industrial film studio.



This link shows the average salary for a senior account executive with an ad
agency to be about $78,000/year with a top end of about $94,000/year.

http://tinyurl.com/ctv7m

Just to be sure I checked again yet could not find any Senior Account
Executive positions with ad agency's offering anything close to and annual
salary of $100,000. Yet you claimed to have made $205,000/year (current
USD) some 30 years ago.

My hats off to you Harry. How did you negotiate such a salary?





Sir Rodney Smithers November 29th 05 01:45 AM

The Truth About Harry
 
JimH,
You are trying to hard at this, there is a reason Harry doesn't allow his
posts to be archived. He has been caught at too many lies to have them
floating around in Google.


" *JimH*" wrote in message
...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
*JimH* wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Bert Robbins wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
Bert Robbins wrote:

Chuck,

Glad you are back safely. You buddy Harry has been having a rough
time this weekend and could use some consoling.

Oh my! Bert sure turned his tail under now that Chuck's back. That
was funny.
The funniest thing about Bert is that he believes he is anything more
than a nitwit. He and the rest of the right-wing low-brain-output
types declare "victory" after "victory" here, but so far, the only
trophy they have won is the the booby prize.

But don't mess with Bert. He earns as much as a government employee.
And now you know that I make more money per year than you do.




Sure, Bertbrain. You make more than I made in the early 1970s. I'm
impressed.

--


Tell us about your job as senior executive in 1976 when you earned
$205,000/year (current USD) Harry. That salary is especially
impressive for one in his 20's.


I was a senior account executive, not a "senior executive." I suppose I
could explain the difference to you, but...why bother, eh? An ad agency
account exec performs a number of duties, including managing the account
services department, determining the need for advertising, and
maintaining the accounts of clients. I also wrote all the copy for my
accounts.

And since you know I was not in my 20's, and have been advised of that at
least a half-dozen times, you're lying when you keep repeating that
mistruth.


If you were in your 30's and making $205,000/year that is equally
impressive.

Let's assume you were 35 in 1976......that would make you 64 now. Are you
that old?




Sir Rodney Smithers November 29th 05 01:47 AM

The Truth About Harry
 
JimH,
Ask Harry about his Rugby career at U of Kansas in the mid 60's.


" *JimH*" wrote in message
...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
*JimH* wrote:

Why are you so concerned about my age? Are you planning on asking me
out on a date? Oh, and why don't you use the income number I provided?
Why are you working so hard to make it sound outlandish? It wasn't, not
in the ad biz in a major market in those days.

You are correct Harry. You said you earned $90,000/year in 1976. In
todays dollars that is $205,000/year.

What is the going rate for a senior account executive in their early to
mid 30's Harry? Does $200,000/year sound a bit over the edge?


As i stated yesterday. the ad agency changed drastically, beginning in
the mid-1980s, and the full-service agency business became less
profitable. I have no idea in any detail what ad agencies pay these days,
but a friend of mine who is in his 30's and working for the DC office of
a big NY agency makes about $150,000 a year. He supervises work on a
couple of large lobbying/PR accounts.

My job title from those days has evolved, too. Today, if I were still in
the biz and working at a big agency, I'd be called either director of
client services or group account supervisor, or some such nonsense.

Another friend who was creative director of a large DC-NY-LA agency was
making about $500,000 a year until he quit two years ago to open his own
industrial film studio.



This link shows the average salary for a senior account executive with an
ad agency to be about $78,000/year with a top end of about $94,000/year.

http://tinyurl.com/ctv7m

Just to be sure I checked again yet could not find any Senior Account
Executive positions with ad agency's offering anything close to and annual
salary of $100,000. Yet you claimed to have made $205,000/year (current
USD) some 30 years ago.

My hats off to you Harry. How did you negotiate such a salary?







*JimH* November 29th 05 01:50 AM

The Truth About Harry
 

" *JimH*" wrote in message
...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
*JimH* wrote:

Why are you so concerned about my age? Are you planning on asking me
out on a date? Oh, and why don't you use the income number I provided?
Why are you working so hard to make it sound outlandish? It wasn't, not
in the ad biz in a major market in those days.

You are correct Harry. You said you earned $90,000/year in 1976. In
todays dollars that is $205,000/year.

What is the going rate for a senior account executive in their early to
mid 30's Harry? Does $200,000/year sound a bit over the edge?


As i stated yesterday. the ad agency changed drastically, beginning in
the mid-1980s, and the full-service agency business became less
profitable. I have no idea in any detail what ad agencies pay these days,
but a friend of mine who is in his 30's and working for the DC office of
a big NY agency makes about $150,000 a year. He supervises work on a
couple of large lobbying/PR accounts.

My job title from those days has evolved, too. Today, if I were still in
the biz and working at a big agency, I'd be called either director of
client services or group account supervisor, or some such nonsense.

Another friend who was creative director of a large DC-NY-LA agency was
making about $500,000 a year until he quit two years ago to open his own
industrial film studio.



This link shows the average salary for a senior account executive with an
ad agency to be about $78,000/year with a top end of about $94,000/year.

http://tinyurl.com/ctv7m

Just to be sure I checked again yet could not find any Senior Account
Executive positions with ad agency's offering anything close to an annual
salary of $100,000. Yet you claimed to have made $205,000/year (current
USD) some 30 years ago.

My hats off to you Harry. How did you negotiate such a salary?







*JimH* November 29th 05 02:41 AM

The Truth About Harry
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
*JimH* wrote:
" *JimH*" wrote in message
...
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
*JimH* wrote:
Why are you so concerned about my age? Are you planning on asking me
out on a date? Oh, and why don't you use the income number I
provided? Why are you working so hard to make it sound outlandish? It
wasn't, not in the ad biz in a major market in those days.
You are correct Harry. You said you earned $90,000/year in 1976. In
todays dollars that is $205,000/year.

What is the going rate for a senior account executive in their early
to mid 30's Harry? Does $200,000/year sound a bit over the edge?
As i stated yesterday. the ad agency changed drastically, beginning in
the mid-1980s, and the full-service agency business became less
profitable. I have no idea in any detail what ad agencies pay these
days, but a friend of mine who is in his 30's and working for the DC
office of a big NY agency makes about $150,000 a year. He supervises
work on a couple of large lobbying/PR accounts.

My job title from those days has evolved, too. Today, if I were still
in the biz and working at a big agency, I'd be called either director
of client services or group account supervisor, or some such nonsense.

Another friend who was creative director of a large DC-NY-LA agency was
making about $500,000 a year until he quit two years ago to open his
own industrial film studio.

This link shows the average salary for a senior account executive with
an ad agency to be about $78,000/year with a top end of about
$94,000/year.

http://tinyurl.com/ctv7m

Just to be sure I checked again yet could not find any Senior Account
Executive positions with ad agency's offering anything close to an
annual salary of $100,000. Yet you claimed to have made $205,000/year
(current USD) some 30 years ago.

My hats off to you Harry. How did you negotiate such a salary?








And once again, you are straining to reach conclusions.

--
You were right, it's all abut character. Impeach Bush Now.




*JimH* November 29th 05 02:42 AM

The Truth About Harry
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
*JimH* wrote:
" *JimH*" wrote in message
...
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
*JimH* wrote:
Why are you so concerned about my age? Are you planning on asking me
out on a date? Oh, and why don't you use the income number I
provided? Why are you working so hard to make it sound outlandish? It
wasn't, not in the ad biz in a major market in those days.
You are correct Harry. You said you earned $90,000/year in 1976. In
todays dollars that is $205,000/year.

What is the going rate for a senior account executive in their early
to mid 30's Harry? Does $200,000/year sound a bit over the edge?
As i stated yesterday. the ad agency changed drastically, beginning in
the mid-1980s, and the full-service agency business became less
profitable. I have no idea in any detail what ad agencies pay these
days, but a friend of mine who is in his 30's and working for the DC
office of a big NY agency makes about $150,000 a year. He supervises
work on a couple of large lobbying/PR accounts.

My job title from those days has evolved, too. Today, if I were still
in the biz and working at a big agency, I'd be called either director
of client services or group account supervisor, or some such nonsense.

Another friend who was creative director of a large DC-NY-LA agency was
making about $500,000 a year until he quit two years ago to open his
own industrial film studio.

This link shows the average salary for a senior account executive with
an ad agency to be about $78,000/year with a top end of about
$94,000/year.

http://tinyurl.com/ctv7m

Just to be sure I checked again yet could not find any Senior Account
Executive positions with ad agency's offering anything close to an
annual salary of $100,000. Yet you claimed to have made $205,000/year
(current USD) some 30 years ago.

My hats off to you Harry. How did you negotiate such a salary?








And once again, you are straining to reach conclusions.



Nope. I provided proof of my claims, something you never do.

But we believe you Harry and my hats off to you. ;-)



*JimH* November 29th 05 02:46 AM

The Truth About Harry
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
*JimH* wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
*JimH* wrote:
Why are you so concerned about my age? Are you planning on asking me
out on a date? Oh, and why don't you use the income number I provided?
Why are you working so hard to make it sound outlandish? It wasn't,
not in the ad biz in a major market in those days.
You are correct Harry. You said you earned $90,000/year in 1976. In
todays dollars that is $205,000/year.

What is the going rate for a senior account executive in their early to
mid 30's Harry? Does $200,000/year sound a bit over the edge?
As i stated yesterday. the ad agency changed drastically, beginning in
the mid-1980s, and the full-service agency business became less
profitable. I have no idea in any detail what ad agencies pay these
days, but a friend of mine who is in his 30's and working for the DC
office of a big NY agency makes about $150,000 a year. He supervises
work on a couple of large lobbying/PR accounts.

My job title from those days has evolved, too. Today, if I were still in
the biz and working at a big agency, I'd be called either director of
client services or group account supervisor, or some such nonsense.

Another friend who was creative director of a large DC-NY-LA agency was
making about $500,000 a year until he quit two years ago to open his own
industrial film studio.



This link shows the average salary for a senior account executive with an
ad agency to be about $78,000/year with a top end of about $94,000/year.

http://tinyurl.com/ctv7m

Just to be sure I checked again yet could not find any Senior Account
Executive positions with ad agency's offering anything close to and
annual salary of $100,000. Yet you claimed to have made $205,000/year
(current USD) some 30 years ago.

My hats off to you Harry. How did you negotiate such a salary?



I suggest you look at "large" advertising agencies. Those are the ones I
worked for in those days.

Here, I found a link for you. Look at the "large" agencies.

http://www.marketingmag.ca/images/XT...gency_size.pdf




Nice link but could you show me where a 35 year old would be making
$205,000/year as a Senior Account Executive with an Ad Agency?

My links show the top end to be in the mid $90,000.

You are a remarkable person to have demanded a salary of $205,000 (today's
USD) as the ripe age of 35.

Nice going Harry.



Bert Robbins November 29th 05 02:46 AM

The Truth About Harry
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
*JimH* wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bert Robbins wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
Bert Robbins wrote:

Chuck,

Glad you are back safely. You buddy Harry has been having a rough
time this weekend and could use some consoling.

Oh my! Bert sure turned his tail under now that Chuck's back. That
was funny.
The funniest thing about Bert is that he believes he is anything more
than a nitwit. He and the rest of the right-wing low-brain-output
types declare "victory" after "victory" here, but so far, the only
trophy they have won is the the booby prize.

But don't mess with Bert. He earns as much as a government employee.
And now you know that I make more money per year than you do.




Sure, Bertbrain. You make more than I made in the early 1970s. I'm
impressed.

--



Tell us about your job as senior executive in 1976 when you earned
$205,000/year (current USD) Harry. That salary is especially impressive
for one in his 20's.


I was a senior account executive, not a "senior executive." I suppose I
could explain the difference to you, but...why bother, eh? An ad agency
account exec performs a number of duties, including managing the account
services department, determining the need for advertising, and maintaining
the accounts of clients. I also wrote all the copy for my accounts.

And since you know I was not in my 20's, and have been advised of that at
least a half-dozen times, you're lying when you keep repeating that
mistruth.


When are you going to say that you earn more money than me today?



*JimH* November 29th 05 02:50 AM

The Truth About Harry
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
*JimH* wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
*JimH* wrote:
" *JimH*" wrote in message
...
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
*JimH* wrote:
Why are you so concerned about my age? Are you planning on asking
me out on a date? Oh, and why don't you use the income number I
provided? Why are you working so hard to make it sound outlandish?
It wasn't, not in the ad biz in a major market in those days.
You are correct Harry. You said you earned $90,000/year in 1976.
In todays dollars that is $205,000/year.

What is the going rate for a senior account executive in their early
to mid 30's Harry? Does $200,000/year sound a bit over the edge?
As i stated yesterday. the ad agency changed drastically, beginning
in the mid-1980s, and the full-service agency business became less
profitable. I have no idea in any detail what ad agencies pay these
days, but a friend of mine who is in his 30's and working for the DC
office of a big NY agency makes about $150,000 a year. He supervises
work on a couple of large lobbying/PR accounts.

My job title from those days has evolved, too. Today, if I were still
in the biz and working at a big agency, I'd be called either director
of client services or group account supervisor, or some such
nonsense.

Another friend who was creative director of a large DC-NY-LA agency
was making about $500,000 a year until he quit two years ago to open
his own industrial film studio.
This link shows the average salary for a senior account executive with
an ad agency to be about $78,000/year with a top end of about
$94,000/year.

http://tinyurl.com/ctv7m

Just to be sure I checked again yet could not find any Senior Account
Executive positions with ad agency's offering anything close to an
annual salary of $100,000. Yet you claimed to have made
$205,000/year (current USD) some 30 years ago.

My hats off to you Harry. How did you negotiate such a salary?






And once again, you are straining to reach conclusions.



Nope. I provided proof of my claims, something you never do.

But we believe you Harry and my hats off to you. ;-)


You provided a chart. There are many charts. The one I provided shows
salaries for large ad agencies, not "median" salaries.

Try harder. Try thinking. Even if it really hurts.



Yep, a chart.

We believe you Harry. We really do.

You are da' man.



Bert Robbins November 29th 05 02:54 AM

The Truth About Harry
 
I may be able to generate statistics for Harry's posts for the last two
years. I will be able to show hourly within each day and daily within each
week and weekly. The process of gathering the raw data is slowed since Harry
narc'd on my with Google last time I did this and they reduced the number of
articles you can return from a search and during each day.

The data gathering continues.

"Sir Rodney Smithers" Ask me about my knighthood. wrote in message
...
JimH,
You are trying to hard at this, there is a reason Harry doesn't allow his
posts to be archived. He has been caught at too many lies to have them
floating around in Google.


" *JimH*" wrote in message
...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
*JimH* wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bert Robbins wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
Bert Robbins wrote:

Chuck,

Glad you are back safely. You buddy Harry has been having a rough
time this weekend and could use some consoling.

Oh my! Bert sure turned his tail under now that Chuck's back.
That was funny.
The funniest thing about Bert is that he believes he is anything
more than a nitwit. He and the rest of the right-wing
low-brain-output types declare "victory" after "victory" here, but
so far, the only trophy they have won is the the booby prize.

But don't mess with Bert. He earns as much as a government employee.
And now you know that I make more money per year than you do.




Sure, Bertbrain. You make more than I made in the early 1970s. I'm
impressed.

--


Tell us about your job as senior executive in 1976 when you earned
$205,000/year (current USD) Harry. That salary is especially
impressive for one in his 20's.

I was a senior account executive, not a "senior executive." I suppose I
could explain the difference to you, but...why bother, eh? An ad agency
account exec performs a number of duties, including managing the account
services department, determining the need for advertising, and
maintaining the accounts of clients. I also wrote all the copy for my
accounts.

And since you know I was not in my 20's, and have been advised of that
at least a half-dozen times, you're lying when you keep repeating that
mistruth.


If you were in your 30's and making $205,000/year that is equally
impressive.

Let's assume you were 35 in 1976......that would make you 64 now. Are
you that old?






Bert Robbins November 29th 05 02:58 AM

The Truth About Harry
 

"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...

"P Fritz" wrote in message
...

"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Sir Rodney Smithers" Ask me about my knighthood. wrote in message
...
NOYB,
You are just upset because you would have to fill some cavities to
write
off your trip, but it still might be a good deal.

There are all sorts of "grey area" methods to save taxes. Writing off
non-business related trips as a business expense is not my way to save
taxes. As a corporation, I could make my wife an officer, and then
write-off *any* trip that I take by simply keeping a journal of daily
"business meetings". But I consider that unethical...and would never do

it.


But there are always those educational seminars held in luxury vacations
spots. The medical doctors seem to really be hooked on those.


The only one I take advantage of is the annual Florida Dental Association
meeting in Orlando. But I must get an advertisement for a new one in some
exotic locale almost every day in the mail.

I *will* be attending the ADA meeting in Hawaii in 2009 though. ;-)


How many years have you been married :)



Bert Robbins November 29th 05 03:00 AM

The Truth About who knows what.
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"P Fritz" wrote in message
...
"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...
"Sir Rodney Smithers" Ask me about my knighthood. wrote in message
...
NOYB,
You are just upset because you would have to fill some cavities to
write
off your trip, but it still might be a good deal.
There are all sorts of "grey area" methods to save taxes. Writing
off
non-business related trips as a business expense is not my way to
save
taxes. As a corporation, I could make my wife an officer, and then
write-off *any* trip that I take by simply keeping a journal of daily
"business meetings". But I consider that unethical...and would never
do
it.
But there are always those educational seminars held in luxury
vacations
spots. The medical doctors seem to really be hooked on those.
The only one I take advantage of is the annual Florida Dental
Association meeting in Orlando. But I must get an advertisement for a
new one in some exotic locale almost every day in the mail.

I *will* be attending the ADA meeting in Hawaii in 2009 though. ;-)

I get clients to pay for many of my trips. They usually want some sort
of presentation from me at their meetings. Since I am on a retainer fee,
they don't have to pay more for me to be there, so they're glad to pick
up my airfare, hotel, meals, et cetera. I was invited to a meeting next
month in Seattle, but I talked the client into putting me off until
Spring. I do hope the sun shines a little in Seattle in the Spring.


Do you claim the trip as income?



I should be embarrassed to say this, but I don't know. My books are
handled by an accountant, and he prepares my taxes, too. I follow his
advice. When I say "pick up" my travel expenses, I pay for them up front,
submit a voucher and receipts, and get reimbursed. I don't mark up these
purchases, so I suspect they are a wash, tax-wise.


I hope he is a union accountant!



Bert Robbins November 29th 05 03:06 AM

The Truth About Harry
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bert Robbins wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
*JimH* wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bert Robbins wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
Bert Robbins wrote:

Chuck,

Glad you are back safely. You buddy Harry has been having a rough
time this weekend and could use some consoling.

Oh my! Bert sure turned his tail under now that Chuck's back.
That was funny.
The funniest thing about Bert is that he believes he is anything
more than a nitwit. He and the rest of the right-wing
low-brain-output types declare "victory" after "victory" here, but
so far, the only trophy they have won is the the booby prize.

But don't mess with Bert. He earns as much as a government employee.
And now you know that I make more money per year than you do.



Sure, Bertbrain. You make more than I made in the early 1970s. I'm
impressed.

--

Tell us about your job as senior executive in 1976 when you earned
$205,000/year (current USD) Harry. That salary is especially
impressive for one in his 20's.
I was a senior account executive, not a "senior executive." I suppose I
could explain the difference to you, but...why bother, eh? An ad agency
account exec performs a number of duties, including managing the account
services department, determining the need for advertising, and
maintaining the accounts of clients. I also wrote all the copy for my
accounts.

And since you know I was not in my 20's, and have been advised of that
at least a half-dozen times, you're lying when you keep repeating that
mistruth.


When are you going to say that you earn more money than me today?


Why should I indulge a worthless piece of crap like you, Bertbrain?


Because it will prove you to be a liar in front of all of those from whom
you seek acceptance.



*JimH* November 29th 05 03:09 AM

The Truth About Harry
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
*JimH* wrote:

Here, I found a link for you. Look at the "large" agencies.

http://www.marketingmag.ca/images/XT...gency_size.pdf




Nice link but could you show me where a 35 year old would be making
$205,000/year as a Senior Account Executive with an Ad Agency?

My links show the top end to be in the mid $90,000.

You are a remarkable person to have demanded a salary of $205,000
(today's USD) as the ripe age of 35.

Nice going Harry.


You know, I'm trying to resist calling you a dimwit, but I do believe you
have a difficult time understanding what you read here. You are always
"misunderstanding" posts and reaching the conclusions you want to reach.

I stated earlier that job descriptions have changed over the years, and
that while my title back then was senior AE, my actual duties were those
of a group supervisor or director of CS, because that is what I did.

I also carefully explained to you how compensation typically was
determined back in those days. But you found a chart...

D'oh.

Enough from me on this already.

Now, what was it you said you did for a living?



I provided facts Harry. If doing so is being a
dimwit....................then I guess I am a dimwit.

You on the other hand provided assumptions and suppositions. Your tap dance
about changing job titles and the declining importance of the job over the
years does not cut it.

But I am sure others will believe you Harry and that is all that is
important to you............eh? ;-)

Nice going. $205,000 as a senior account executive in advertising at age
35, even with major agencies,
is.......................................extraordi nary.

You are da' man!

Eh?



*JimH* November 29th 05 03:11 AM

The Truth About Harry
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bert Robbins wrote:

Because it will prove you to be a liar in front of all of those from whom
you seek acceptance.


There's no one here from whom I seek anything, Bertbrain.

And for the last time:
I do not discuss my personal income in usenet.



Sure you do. You did so yesterday. Did you forget that already Harry?



Bert Robbins November 29th 05 03:14 AM

The Truth About Harry
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bert Robbins wrote:
I may be able to generate statistics for Harry's posts for the last two
years. I will be able to show hourly within each day and daily within
each week and weekly. The process of gathering the raw data is slowed
since Harry narc'd on my with Google last time I did this and they
reduced the number of articles you can return from a search and during
each day.

The data gathering continues.



Obviously you and the bottom dwellers really care about this...which of
course means you are obsessed with me.


We've already got Chuck and Gene on the line with respect to your claims. We
are working on Don now.




Bert Robbins November 29th 05 03:15 AM

The Truth About Harry
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bert Robbins wrote:

Because it will prove you to be a liar in front of all of those from whom
you seek acceptance.


There's no one here from whom I seek anything, Bertbrain.

And for the last time:

I do not discuss my personal religious beliefs in usenet.
I do not discuss my personal income in usenet.

You don't really think you are bright enough to "trick" me into
revelations on either subject, do you, Bertbrain?


You can't help yourself can you? Each time I post you have to reply to it.



*JimH* November 29th 05 03:21 AM

The Truth About Harry
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
*JimH* wrote:

But I am sure others will believe you Harry and that is all that is
important to you............eh? ;-)

Nice going. $205,000 as a senior account executive in advertising at age
35, even with major agencies,
is.......................................extraordi nary.

You are da' man!

Eh?


A. I don't give a damn what you or any other piece of right-wing crap
believes, and don't take that personally.

B. I was moderately successful when I worked for others in the ad agency
biz. I know guys who were far more succe$$ful.



Good for you Harry. We believe you. ;-)



*JimH* November 29th 05 03:24 AM

The Truth About Harry
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
*JimH* wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bert Robbins wrote:

Because it will prove you to be a liar in front of all of those from
whom you seek acceptance.
There's no one here from whom I seek anything, Bertbrain.

And for the last time:
I do not discuss my personal income in usenet.



Sure you do. You did so yesterday. Did you forget that already Harry?


Wrong again.



Would you like me show otherwise?



*JimH* November 29th 05 03:31 AM

The Truth About Harry
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
*JimH* wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
*JimH* wrote:
But I am sure others will believe you Harry and that is all that is
important to you............eh? ;-)

Nice going. $205,000 as a senior account executive in advertising at
age 35, even with major agencies,
is.......................................extraordi nary.

You are da' man!

Eh?
A. I don't give a damn what you or any other piece of right-wing crap
believes, and don't take that personally.

B. I was moderately successful when I worked for others in the ad agency
biz. I know guys who were far more succe$$ful.



Good for you Harry. We believe you. ;-)


We don't care what you believe, Jim.



*We*?



You're just someone to twiddle with in usenet, and mean no more than the
doodles I scribble on newsprint while thinking up headlines for an ad or a
brochure.



Actually I believe that is how most folks percieve you and your
stories...err fantasties.........I mean lies. Eh?


What do you do for a living, Jim? Too embarrassed to say?


Not at all Harry. I will post my professional resume to this NG when I read
about your death in the Baltimore Times.



*JimH* November 29th 05 03:34 AM

The Truth About Harry
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
*JimH* wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
*JimH* wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bert Robbins wrote:

Because it will prove you to be a liar in front of all of those from
whom you seek acceptance.
There's no one here from whom I seek anything, Bertbrain.

And for the last time:
I do not discuss my personal income in usenet.


Sure you do. You did so yesterday. Did you forget that already Harry?
Wrong again.



Would you like me show otherwise?


There is no post extant from yesterday in which I stated my current
earnings, though I am sure there must be some post of mine you could
"misunderstand." You're good at that.





Where did I say *current earnings* Harry.

You have a history of reading compression problems. I thought that was your
forte'.

Eh?



*JimH* November 29th 05 03:43 AM

The Truth About Harry
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
*JimH* wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
*JimH* wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
*JimH* wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bert Robbins wrote:

Because it will prove you to be a liar in front of all of those
from whom you seek acceptance.
There's no one here from whom I seek anything, Bertbrain.

And for the last time:
I do not discuss my personal income in usenet.

Sure you do. You did so yesterday. Did you forget that already
Harry?
Wrong again.

Would you like me show otherwise?
There is no post extant from yesterday in which I stated my current
earnings, though I am sure there must be some post of mine you could
"misunderstand." You're good at that.





Where did I say *current earnings* Harry.

You have a history of reading compression problems. I thought that was
your forte'.

Eh?


From 28 years ago? Idiot.


Read your initial response: " I do not discuss my personal income in
usenet."

You discuessed you personal income during the 1970's yesterday.

For someone who claims to have made $205,000 in 1976 you really
are..........................the real idiot. ;-)

You continue to **** on the toilet seat Harry..........when are you going to
learn to lift it up before you ****?



*JimH* November 29th 05 03:45 AM

The Truth About Harry
 

" *JimH*" wrote in message
. ..

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
*JimH* wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
*JimH* wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
*JimH* wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bert Robbins wrote:

Because it will prove you to be a liar in front of all of those
from whom you seek acceptance.
There's no one here from whom I seek anything, Bertbrain.

And for the last time:
I do not discuss my personal income in usenet.

Sure you do. You did so yesterday. Did you forget that already
Harry?
Wrong again.

Would you like me show otherwise?
There is no post extant from yesterday in which I stated my current
earnings, though I am sure there must be some post of mine you could
"misunderstand." You're good at that.





Where did I say *current earnings* Harry.

You have a history of reading compression problems. I thought that was
your forte'.

Eh?


From 28 years ago? Idiot.


Read your initial response: " I do not discuss my personal income in
usenet."

You discussed your personal income during the 1970's yesterday.

For someone who claims to have made $205,000 in 1976 you really
are..........................the real idiot. ;-)

You continue to **** on the toilet seat Harry..........when are you going
to learn to lift it up before you ****?




Bert Robbins November 29th 05 12:31 PM

The Truth About Harry
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
*JimH* wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
*JimH* wrote:
But I am sure others will believe you Harry and that is all that is
important to you............eh? ;-)

Nice going. $205,000 as a senior account executive in advertising at
age 35, even with major agencies,
is.......................................extraordi nary.

You are da' man!

Eh?
A. I don't give a damn what you or any other piece of right-wing crap
believes, and don't take that personally.

B. I was moderately successful when I worked for others in the ad agency
biz. I know guys who were far more succe$$ful.



Good for you Harry. We believe you. ;-)


We don't care what you believe, Jim.

You're just someone to twiddle with in usenet, and mean no more than the
doodles I scribble on newsprint while thinking up headlines for an ad or a
brochure.

What do you do for a living, Jim? Too embarrassed to say?


Is Harry having a struggle with his other personalities? He is now talking
in the plural form.



P Fritz November 29th 05 01:09 PM

The Truth About who knows what.
 

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"P Fritz" wrote in message
...
"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...
"Sir Rodney Smithers" Ask me about my knighthood. wrote in

message
...
NOYB,
You are just upset because you would have to fill some cavities to
write
off your trip, but it still might be a good deal.
There are all sorts of "grey area" methods to save taxes. Writing
off
non-business related trips as a business expense is not my way to
save
taxes. As a corporation, I could make my wife an officer, and then
write-off *any* trip that I take by simply keeping a journal of

daily
"business meetings". But I consider that unethical...and would

never
do
it.
But there are always those educational seminars held in luxury
vacations
spots. The medical doctors seem to really be hooked on those.
The only one I take advantage of is the annual Florida Dental
Association meeting in Orlando. But I must get an advertisement for

a
new one in some exotic locale almost every day in the mail.

I *will* be attending the ADA meeting in Hawaii in 2009 though. ;-)

I get clients to pay for many of my trips. They usually want some sort
of presentation from me at their meetings. Since I am on a retainer

fee,
they don't have to pay more for me to be there, so they're glad to

pick
up my airfare, hotel, meals, et cetera. I was invited to a meeting

next
month in Seattle, but I talked the client into putting me off until
Spring. I do hope the sun shines a little in Seattle in the Spring.

Do you claim the trip as income?



I should be embarrassed to say this, but I don't know. My books are
handled by an accountant, and he prepares my taxes, too. I follow his
advice. When I say "pick up" my travel expenses, I pay for them up

front,
submit a voucher and receipts, and get reimbursed. I don't mark up these
purchases, so I suspect they are a wash, tax-wise.


I hope he is a union accountant!


"Narcissists are grandiose. They live in an artificial self invented from
fantasies of absolute or perfect power, genius, beauty, etc. Normal people's
fantasies of themselves, their wishful thinking, take the form of stories --
these stories often come from movies or TV, or from things they've read or
that were read to them as children. They involve a plot, heroic activity or
great accomplishments or adventu normal people see themselves in action,
however preposterous or even impossible that action may be -- they see
themselves doing things that earn them honor, glory, love, riches, fame, and
they see these fantasy selves as personal potentials, however tenuous"








P Fritz November 29th 05 01:10 PM

The Truth About Harry
 

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bert Robbins wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
*JimH* wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bert Robbins wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
Bert Robbins wrote:

Chuck,

Glad you are back safely. You buddy Harry has been having a

rough
time this weekend and could use some consoling.

Oh my! Bert sure turned his tail under now that Chuck's back.
That was funny.
The funniest thing about Bert is that he believes he is anything
more than a nitwit. He and the rest of the right-wing
low-brain-output types declare "victory" after "victory" here, but
so far, the only trophy they have won is the the booby prize.

But don't mess with Bert. He earns as much as a government

employee.
And now you know that I make more money per year than you do.



Sure, Bertbrain. You make more than I made in the early 1970s. I'm
impressed.

--

Tell us about your job as senior executive in 1976 when you earned
$205,000/year (current USD) Harry. That salary is especially
impressive for one in his 20's.
I was a senior account executive, not a "senior executive." I suppose

I
could explain the difference to you, but...why bother, eh? An ad

agency
account exec performs a number of duties, including managing the

account
services department, determining the need for advertising, and
maintaining the accounts of clients. I also wrote all the copy for my
accounts.

And since you know I was not in my 20's, and have been advised of that
at least a half-dozen times, you're lying when you keep repeating that
mistruth.

When are you going to say that you earn more money than me today?


Why should I indulge a worthless piece of crap like you, Bertbrain?


Because it will prove you to be a liar in front of all of those from whom
you seek acceptance.


"narcissists will say ANYTHING, they will trash anyone in their own
self-justification, and then they will expect the immediate restoration of
the status quo. They will attack you (sometimes physically) and spew a load
of bile, insult, abuse, contempt, threats, etc."





P Fritz November 29th 05 01:13 PM

The Truth About Harry
 

" *JimH*" wrote in message
...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bert Robbins wrote:

Because it will prove you to be a liar in front of all of those from

whom
you seek acceptance.


There's no one here from whom I seek anything, Bertbrain.

And for the last time:
I do not discuss my personal income in usenet.



Sure you do. You did so yesterday. Did you forget that already Harry?



"Narcissists don't volunteer the usual personal information about
themselves, so they may seem secretive or perhaps unusually reserved or very
jealous of their privacy. All these things are true, but with the special
narcissistic twist that, first, their real life isn't interesting to them so
it doesn't occur to them that it would be interesting to anyone else and,
second, since they have not yet been transfigured into the Star of the
Universe, they're ashamed of their real life. They feel that their jobs,
their friends and families, their homes and possessions aren't good enough
for them, they deserve better. "

"narcissistic adults have had decades of not being in synch with the times
or with other people, so that by now they are really out of it. Sometimes it
just seems like they have a highly selective memory -- which, of course,
they do, sort of; they pay attention only to what has their name in it in
the first place, so after 30 or 40 years"





NOYB November 29th 05 03:22 PM

The Truth About Harry
 

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
...

"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...

"P Fritz" wrote in message
...

"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Sir Rodney Smithers" Ask me about my knighthood. wrote in message
...
NOYB,
You are just upset because you would have to fill some cavities to
write
off your trip, but it still might be a good deal.

There are all sorts of "grey area" methods to save taxes. Writing off
non-business related trips as a business expense is not my way to save
taxes. As a corporation, I could make my wife an officer, and then
write-off *any* trip that I take by simply keeping a journal of daily
"business meetings". But I consider that unethical...and would never
do
it.


But there are always those educational seminars held in luxury vacations
spots. The medical doctors seem to really be hooked on those.


The only one I take advantage of is the annual Florida Dental Association
meeting in Orlando. But I must get an advertisement for a new one in
some exotic locale almost every day in the mail.

I *will* be attending the ADA meeting in Hawaii in 2009 though. ;-)


How many years have you been married :)


9 years.



Don White November 29th 05 05:36 PM

The Truth About Harry
 
Bert Robbins wrote:

We've already got Chuck and Gene on the line with respect to your claims. We
are working on Don now.


You'll need more than a few years of USMC R training to 'work on me'!
I'm beyond corruption.


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