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Sir Rodney Smithers November 20th 05 02:26 PM

Canon PowerShot A610 Digital Camera
 
I am trying to find a camera for my college age daughter.

I want the best combination of compact size and quality.

Does anyone have any recommendations of cameras I should look at?

Does anyone have any experience with the Canon PowerShot A610 Digital
Camera?




John H. November 20th 05 02:51 PM

Canon PowerShot A610 Digital Camera
 
On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 09:26:54 -0500, "Sir Rodney Smithers" Ask me about my
knighthood. wrote:

I am trying to find a camera for my college age daughter.

I want the best combination of compact size and quality.

Does anyone have any recommendations of cameras I should look at?

Does anyone have any experience with the Canon PowerShot A610 Digital
Camera?



Get her the Nikon D50. Then, in a few years, she can upgrade to the Nikon D2X.

http://www.penncamera.com/store/item...ARTMENT_ID=329

She'll love you.
--
John H

"It's *not* a baby kicking, bride of mine, it's just a fetus!"

A Famous Hypocrite

Sir Rodney Smithers November 20th 05 02:56 PM

Canon PowerShot A610 Digital Camera
 
JohnH,

I screwed up. I need to update my criteria.

I want the best combination of compact size, quality and PRICE.

Thank you for your help. ; )


ps I can get the powershot a610 for $269 vs. $699 for the Nikon.

Remember this is a college student.

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 09:26:54 -0500, "Sir Rodney Smithers" Ask me about my
knighthood. wrote:

I am trying to find a camera for my college age daughter.

I want the best combination of compact size and quality.

Does anyone have any recommendations of cameras I should look at?

Does anyone have any experience with the Canon PowerShot A610 Digital
Camera?



Get her the Nikon D50. Then, in a few years, she can upgrade to the Nikon
D2X.

http://www.penncamera.com/store/item...ARTMENT_ID=329

She'll love you.
--
John H

"It's *not* a baby kicking, bride of mine, it's just a fetus!"

A Famous Hypocrite




*JimH* November 20th 05 02:57 PM

Canon PowerShot A610 Digital Camera
 

"Sir Rodney Smithers" Ask me about my knighthood. wrote in message
...
I am trying to find a camera for my college age daughter.

I want the best combination of compact size and quality.

Does anyone have any recommendations of cameras I should look at?

Does anyone have any experience with the Canon PowerShot A610 Digital
Camera?




Kodak makes some nice point and shoot cameras under their easyshare line:

http://tinyurl.com/7wqt7



Sir Rodney Smithers November 20th 05 03:14 PM

Canon PowerShot A610 Digital Camera
 
JimH,
I had heard that Kodak was junk, after your recommendations, I checked their
line closer. They have a full range of quality and prices, and the Kodak
EasyShare V530 is competitively priced with the Canon, and got PC Mags
"Editors 'Choice". I will check this out.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1877621,00.asp

Thanks a lot.

ps -

" *JimH*" wrote in message
...

"Sir Rodney Smithers" Ask me about my knighthood. wrote in message
...
I am trying to find a camera for my college age daughter.

I want the best combination of compact size and quality.

Does anyone have any recommendations of cameras I should look at?

Does anyone have any experience with the Canon PowerShot A610 Digital
Camera?




Kodak makes some nice point and shoot cameras under their easyshare line:

http://tinyurl.com/7wqt7




John H. November 20th 05 03:36 PM

Canon PowerShot A610 Digital Camera
 
On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 09:56:05 -0500, "Sir Rodney Smithers" Ask me
about my knighthood. wrote:

JohnH,

I screwed up. I need to update my criteria.

I want the best combination of compact size, quality and PRICE.

Thank you for your help. ; )


ps I can get the powershot a610 for $269 vs. $699 for the Nikon.

Remember this is a college student.

"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 09:26:54 -0500, "Sir Rodney Smithers" Ask me about my
knighthood. wrote:

I am trying to find a camera for my college age daughter.

I want the best combination of compact size and quality.

Does anyone have any recommendations of cameras I should look at?

Does anyone have any experience with the Canon PowerShot A610 Digital
Camera?



Get her the Nikon D50. Then, in a few years, she can upgrade to the Nikon
D2X.

http://www.penncamera.com/store/item...ARTMENT_ID=329

She'll love you.
--
John H

"It's *not* a baby kicking, bride of mine, it's just a fetus!"

A Famous Hypocrite



She'll be happy with the Canon A610. I'd look also at this one.

http://www.penncamera.com/store/item...ARTMENT_ID=330

My daughter has a Nikon Coolpix 4500 (a couple years old now), and she
loves it.


--
John H

"It's *not* a baby kicking, bride of mine, it's just a fetus!"

A Famous Hypocrite

John H. November 20th 05 03:39 PM

Canon PowerShot A610 Digital Camera
 
On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 10:14:23 -0500, "Sir Rodney Smithers" Ask me
about my knighthood. wrote:

JimH,
I had heard that Kodak was junk, after your recommendations, I checked their
line closer. They have a full range of quality and prices, and the Kodak
EasyShare V530 is competitively priced with the Canon, and got PC Mags
"Editors 'Choice". I will check this out.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1877621,00.asp

Thanks a lot.

ps -

" *JimH*" wrote in message
...

"Sir Rodney Smithers" Ask me about my knighthood. wrote in message
...
I am trying to find a camera for my college age daughter.

I want the best combination of compact size and quality.

Does anyone have any recommendations of cameras I should look at?

Does anyone have any experience with the Canon PowerShot A610 Digital
Camera?




Kodak makes some nice point and shoot cameras under their easyshare line:

http://tinyurl.com/7wqt7



Go he http://www.dpreview.com/

You can display the specs of several cameras at the same time and
compare reviews to your heart's content. This site is well thought of
in the camera groups I've visited.
--
John H

"It's *not* a baby kicking, bride of mine, it's just a fetus!"

A Famous Hypocrite

*JimH* November 20th 05 03:41 PM

Canon PowerShot A610 Digital Camera
 

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 09:56:05 -0500, "Sir Rodney Smithers" Ask me
about my knighthood. wrote:

JohnH,

I screwed up. I need to update my criteria.

I want the best combination of compact size, quality and PRICE.

Thank you for your help. ; )


ps I can get the powershot a610 for $269 vs. $699 for the Nikon.

Remember this is a college student.

"John H." wrote in message
. ..
On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 09:26:54 -0500, "Sir Rodney Smithers" Ask me about
my
knighthood. wrote:

I am trying to find a camera for my college age daughter.

I want the best combination of compact size and quality.

Does anyone have any recommendations of cameras I should look at?

Does anyone have any experience with the Canon PowerShot A610 Digital
Camera?



Get her the Nikon D50. Then, in a few years, she can upgrade to the
Nikon
D2X.

http://www.penncamera.com/store/item...ARTMENT_ID=329

She'll love you.
--
John H

"It's *not* a baby kicking, bride of mine, it's just a fetus!"

A Famous Hypocrite



She'll be happy with the Canon A610. I'd look also at this one.

http://www.penncamera.com/store/item...ARTMENT_ID=330

My daughter has a Nikon Coolpix 4500 (a couple years old now), and she
loves it.


--
John H

"It's *not* a baby kicking, bride of mine, it's just a fetus!"

A Famous Hypocrite



John, I think he is looking for a more sleek camera that carries nicely in
ones pocket.



Sir Rodney Smithers November 20th 05 03:50 PM

Canon PowerShot A610 Digital Camera
 
Jim and Jim,

I was told by a salesman in the store (and we all know how little they
know), that for blowing up a picture to 4X6 or 5X7 that all I will need is a
5mp camera. She said I would not be able to tell the diff between a 5 and a
7mp camera on a computer screen or photos, as long as i didn't blow it up
extra large.

Is this accurate?


Can I get by with a 4mp or will I see a difference between 4 and 5 mp?




"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 09:56:05 -0500, "Sir Rodney Smithers" Ask me
about my knighthood. wrote:

JohnH,

I screwed up. I need to update my criteria.

I want the best combination of compact size, quality and PRICE.

Thank you for your help. ; )


ps I can get the powershot a610 for $269 vs. $699 for the Nikon.

Remember this is a college student.

"John H." wrote in message
. ..
On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 09:26:54 -0500, "Sir Rodney Smithers" Ask me about
my
knighthood. wrote:

I am trying to find a camera for my college age daughter.

I want the best combination of compact size and quality.

Does anyone have any recommendations of cameras I should look at?

Does anyone have any experience with the Canon PowerShot A610 Digital
Camera?



Get her the Nikon D50. Then, in a few years, she can upgrade to the
Nikon
D2X.

http://www.penncamera.com/store/item...ARTMENT_ID=329

She'll love you.
--
John H

"It's *not* a baby kicking, bride of mine, it's just a fetus!"

A Famous Hypocrite



She'll be happy with the Canon A610. I'd look also at this one.

http://www.penncamera.com/store/item...ARTMENT_ID=330

My daughter has a Nikon Coolpix 4500 (a couple years old now), and she
loves it.


--
John H

"It's *not* a baby kicking, bride of mine, it's just a fetus!"

A Famous Hypocrite




John H. November 20th 05 03:51 PM

Canon PowerShot A610 Digital Camera
 
On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 10:41:12 -0500, " *JimH*" wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 09:56:05 -0500, "Sir Rodney Smithers" Ask me
about my knighthood. wrote:

JohnH,

I screwed up. I need to update my criteria.

I want the best combination of compact size, quality and PRICE.

Thank you for your help. ; )


ps I can get the powershot a610 for $269 vs. $699 for the Nikon.

Remember this is a college student.

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 09:26:54 -0500, "Sir Rodney Smithers" Ask me about
my
knighthood. wrote:

I am trying to find a camera for my college age daughter.

I want the best combination of compact size and quality.

Does anyone have any recommendations of cameras I should look at?

Does anyone have any experience with the Canon PowerShot A610 Digital
Camera?



Get her the Nikon D50. Then, in a few years, she can upgrade to the
Nikon
D2X.

http://www.penncamera.com/store/item...ARTMENT_ID=329

She'll love you.
--
John H

"It's *not* a baby kicking, bride of mine, it's just a fetus!"

A Famous Hypocrite


She'll be happy with the Canon A610. I'd look also at this one.

http://www.penncamera.com/store/item...ARTMENT_ID=330

My daughter has a Nikon Coolpix 4500 (a couple years old now), and she
loves it.


--
John H

"It's *not* a baby kicking, bride of mine, it's just a fetus!"

A Famous Hypocrite



John, I think he is looking for a more sleek camera that carries nicely in
ones pocket.


The profiles of the A610 and the 7600 are not all that different.
--
John H

"It's *not* a baby kicking, bride of mine, it's just a fetus!"

A Famous Hypocrite

John H. November 20th 05 03:55 PM

Canon PowerShot A610 Digital Camera
 
On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 10:50:30 -0500, "Sir Rodney Smithers" Ask me
about my knighthood. wrote:

Jim and Jim,

I was told by a salesman in the store (and we all know how little they
know), that for blowing up a picture to 4X6 or 5X7 that all I will need is a
5mp camera. She said I would not be able to tell the diff between a 5 and a
7mp camera on a computer screen or photos, as long as i didn't blow it up
extra large.

Is this accurate?


Can I get by with a 4mp or will I see a difference between 4 and 5 mp?




"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 09:56:05 -0500, "Sir Rodney Smithers" Ask me
about my knighthood. wrote:

JohnH,

I screwed up. I need to update my criteria.

I want the best combination of compact size, quality and PRICE.

Thank you for your help. ; )


ps I can get the powershot a610 for $269 vs. $699 for the Nikon.

Remember this is a college student.

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 09:26:54 -0500, "Sir Rodney Smithers" Ask me about
my
knighthood. wrote:

I am trying to find a camera for my college age daughter.

I want the best combination of compact size and quality.

Does anyone have any recommendations of cameras I should look at?

Does anyone have any experience with the Canon PowerShot A610 Digital
Camera?



Get her the Nikon D50. Then, in a few years, she can upgrade to the
Nikon
D2X.

http://www.penncamera.com/store/item...ARTMENT_ID=329

She'll love you.
--
John H

"It's *not* a baby kicking, bride of mine, it's just a fetus!"

A Famous Hypocrite


She'll be happy with the Canon A610. I'd look also at this one.

http://www.penncamera.com/store/item...ARTMENT_ID=330

My daughter has a Nikon Coolpix 4500 (a couple years old now), and she
loves it.


--
John H

"It's *not* a baby kicking, bride of mine, it's just a fetus!"

A Famous Hypocrite



For $50 or so, I'd go with the 5. It's not just the 8x10 capability,
it's the 4x6 capability after you've cropped the picture.
--
John H

"It's *not* a baby kicking, bride of mine, it's just a fetus!"

A Famous Hypocrite

*JimH* November 20th 05 03:57 PM

Canon PowerShot A610 Digital Camera
 

"Sir Rodney Smithers" Ask me about my knighthood. wrote in message
...
Jim and Jim,

I was told by a salesman in the store (and we all know how little they
know), that for blowing up a picture to 4X6 or 5X7 that all I will need is
a 5mp camera. She said I would not be able to tell the diff between a 5
and a 7mp camera on a computer screen or photos, as long as i didn't blow
it up extra large.

Is this accurate?


IMO Yes.



Can I get by with a 4mp or will I see a difference between 4 and 5 mp?


I used to have a 3.2 mp Sony Mavica and the picture quality was great. I do
not think you will see a difference, but I am not an expert.



John H. November 20th 05 03:58 PM

Canon PowerShot A610 Digital Camera
 
On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 10:14:23 -0500, "Sir Rodney Smithers" Ask me
about my knighthood. wrote:

JimH,
I had heard that Kodak was junk, after your recommendations, I checked their
line closer. They have a full range of quality and prices, and the Kodak
EasyShare V530 is competitively priced with the Canon, and got PC Mags
"Editors 'Choice". I will check this out.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1877621,00.asp

Thanks a lot.

ps -

" *JimH*" wrote in message
...

"Sir Rodney Smithers" Ask me about my knighthood. wrote in message
...
I am trying to find a camera for my college age daughter.

I want the best combination of compact size and quality.

Does anyone have any recommendations of cameras I should look at?

Does anyone have any experience with the Canon PowerShot A610 Digital
Camera?




Kodak makes some nice point and shoot cameras under their easyshare line:

http://tinyurl.com/7wqt7



It's interesting that this subject came up this morning. I'm now
considering the purchase of a Nikon D200 body, which I just started
thinking of this morning.

--
John H

"It's *not* a baby kicking, bride of mine, it's just a fetus!"

A Famous Hypocrite

Bill McKee November 21st 05 05:17 AM

Canon PowerShot A610 Digital Camera
 

"Sir Rodney Smithers" Ask me about my knighthood. wrote in message
...
JohnH,

I screwed up. I need to update my criteria.

I want the best combination of compact size, quality and PRICE.

Thank you for your help. ; )


ps I can get the powershot a610 for $269 vs. $699 for the Nikon.

Remember this is a college student.

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 09:26:54 -0500, "Sir Rodney Smithers" Ask me about
my
knighthood. wrote:

I am trying to find a camera for my college age daughter.

I want the best combination of compact size and quality.

Does anyone have any recommendations of cameras I should look at?

Does anyone have any experience with the Canon PowerShot A610 Digital
Camera?



Get her the Nikon D50. Then, in a few years, she can upgrade to the Nikon
D2X.

http://www.penncamera.com/store/item...ARTMENT_ID=329

She'll love you.
--
John H

"It's *not* a baby kicking, bride of mine, it's just a fetus!"

A Famous Hypocrite




Get the Pentax S5i. Just got one for my daughter and we used it for a
weekend in the sierras. Daughter had our Nikon coolpix. Was $299 at
Costco, but cheaper on the i-net. 5 megapixal and about 1/2 the size of a
cigarette pack. Good optical zoom. Get a 1 gig card for an extra $80 and
she is good to go.



Bill McKee November 21st 05 05:19 AM

Canon PowerShot A610 Digital Camera
 

"Sir Rodney Smithers" Ask me about my knighthood. wrote in message
...
Jim and Jim,

I was told by a salesman in the store (and we all know how little they
know), that for blowing up a picture to 4X6 or 5X7 that all I will need is
a 5mp camera. She said I would not be able to tell the diff between a 5
and a 7mp camera on a computer screen or photos, as long as i didn't blow
it up extra large.

Is this accurate?


Can I get by with a 4mp or will I see a difference between 4 and 5 mp?




"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 09:56:05 -0500, "Sir Rodney Smithers" Ask me
about my knighthood. wrote:

JohnH,

I screwed up. I need to update my criteria.

I want the best combination of compact size, quality and PRICE.

Thank you for your help. ; )


ps I can get the powershot a610 for $269 vs. $699 for the Nikon.

Remember this is a college student.

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 09:26:54 -0500, "Sir Rodney Smithers" Ask me about
my
knighthood. wrote:

I am trying to find a camera for my college age daughter.

I want the best combination of compact size and quality.

Does anyone have any recommendations of cameras I should look at?

Does anyone have any experience with the Canon PowerShot A610 Digital
Camera?



Get her the Nikon D50. Then, in a few years, she can upgrade to the
Nikon
D2X.

http://www.penncamera.com/store/item...ARTMENT_ID=329

She'll love you.
--
John H

"It's *not* a baby kicking, bride of mine, it's just a fetus!"

A Famous Hypocrite


She'll be happy with the Canon A610. I'd look also at this one.

http://www.penncamera.com/store/item...ARTMENT_ID=330

My daughter has a Nikon Coolpix 4500 (a couple years old now), and she
loves it.


--
John H

"It's *not* a baby kicking, bride of mine, it's just a fetus!"

A Famous Hypocrite




For 4x6 all you need is a 2 mega pixal camera.



Bill McKee November 21st 05 05:30 AM

Canon PowerShot A610 Digital Camera
 

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Sir Rodney Smithers" Ask me about my knighthood. wrote in message
...
JohnH,

I screwed up. I need to update my criteria.

I want the best combination of compact size, quality and PRICE.

Thank you for your help. ; )


ps I can get the powershot a610 for $269 vs. $699 for the Nikon.

Remember this is a college student.

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 09:26:54 -0500, "Sir Rodney Smithers" Ask me about
my
knighthood. wrote:

I am trying to find a camera for my college age daughter.

I want the best combination of compact size and quality.

Does anyone have any recommendations of cameras I should look at?

Does anyone have any experience with the Canon PowerShot A610 Digital
Camera?



Get her the Nikon D50. Then, in a few years, she can upgrade to the
Nikon D2X.

http://www.penncamera.com/store/item...ARTMENT_ID=329

She'll love you.
--
John H

"It's *not* a baby kicking, bride of mine, it's just a fetus!"

A Famous Hypocrite




Get the Pentax S5i. Just got one for my daughter and we used it for a
weekend in the sierras. Daughter had our Nikon coolpix. Was $299 at
Costco, but cheaper on the i-net. 5 megapixal and about 1/2 the size of
a cigarette pack. Good optical zoom. Get a 1 gig card for an extra $80
and she is good to go.


Make that the Pentax Optio S5i



Sir Rodney Smithers November 21st 05 11:33 AM

Canon PowerShot A610 Digital Camera
 
Bill,
Thanks a lot, I will check it out in the store.


"Bill McKee" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Sir Rodney Smithers" Ask me about my knighthood. wrote in message
...
JohnH,

I screwed up. I need to update my criteria.

I want the best combination of compact size, quality and PRICE.

Thank you for your help. ; )


ps I can get the powershot a610 for $269 vs. $699 for the Nikon.

Remember this is a college student.

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 09:26:54 -0500, "Sir Rodney Smithers" Ask me about
my
knighthood. wrote:

I am trying to find a camera for my college age daughter.

I want the best combination of compact size and quality.

Does anyone have any recommendations of cameras I should look at?

Does anyone have any experience with the Canon PowerShot A610 Digital
Camera?



Get her the Nikon D50. Then, in a few years, she can upgrade to the
Nikon D2X.

http://www.penncamera.com/store/item...ARTMENT_ID=329

She'll love you.
--
John H

"It's *not* a baby kicking, bride of mine, it's just a fetus!"

A Famous Hypocrite



Get the Pentax S5i. Just got one for my daughter and we used it for a
weekend in the sierras. Daughter had our Nikon coolpix. Was $299 at
Costco, but cheaper on the i-net. 5 megapixal and about 1/2 the size of
a cigarette pack. Good optical zoom. Get a 1 gig card for an extra $80
and she is good to go.


Make that the Pentax Optio S5i




Sir Rodney Smithers November 21st 05 01:04 PM

Canon PowerShot A610 Digital Camera
 
Tom,

I am very impressed with the quality of your pictures.

All I have to say is you and JohnH suck.

I started out looking at nice cheap point and shot cameras, now I am
convinced I need to go with a DSLR so she can take more than stationary
pictures. I keep hearing the time delay on the shutter makes it hard to
take pictures when the subject is moving.

As I said, you and JohnH suck for even mentioning the DSLR, and I hope you
both end up in a special level of hell.

Before you go to hell though, can you check out this combo pack and let me
know what you think.

http://www.expresscameras.com/prodet...?prodid=362726



"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 06:33:49 -0500, "Sir Rodney Smithers" Ask me
about my knighthood. wrote:

Bill,
Thanks a lot, I will check it out in the store.


You would be better served going with a Olympus E-300 kit system.
Slightly decreased frame speed in action shots (2.5 fps vs 3.2 fps),
but the four/thirds capture is far superior to that produced with
standard CCD imagers. If you look around, you can still find them.
It's a great camera for little money now as Oly just introduced the
E-500. For that matter, for about $899, you can get a E-500 with the
same lens kit as the E-300. I was so impressed with the E-300 and
it's images, that I bought E-1 and E-500 bodies - I just swap lenses.
At these kind of prices, I use the E-300 as my kick around camera - it
goes with me everywhere.

Here are some images for you to look at.

http://www.swsports.org/images/

Two of these, (the Daemon images) are heavily processed, but you can't
process if you don't have anything to work with. The experiment#1/#2
images were post processed only for noise. I'll add a couple more
for you to look at in a few minutes.

The rest are straight shots taken over a couple of days. They
overlook my house and barn taken from a hill over three miles away.

The lens was OEM - Sigma 50-200mm zoom, manual focus.

If you want to discuss digital cameras, go to http://www.swsports.org
and follow the email instructions - I'll be glad to go through other
options with you.

Later,

Tom




Sir Rodney Smithers November 21st 05 05:53 PM

Canon PowerShot A610 Digital Camera
 
Tom,
Thanks a lot. It seems to have a great price compared to the other DSLR.


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 08:04:28 -0500, "Sir Rodney Smithers" Ask me
about my knighthood. wrote:

Before you go to hell though, can you check out this combo pack and let me
know what you think.

http://www.expresscameras.com/prodet...?prodid=362726


Glad I could help. :)

That's an excellent package, although I would spend the extra money
and obtain a 1 gig flash memory - you will kill that 256 in nothing
flat - I don't mean "kill" as in "broke" but kill as in limited
memory. The 1 gig card is a big help.

The latest firmware upgrade for the E-300 has really taken great
performance and made it better.

If you do decide to obtain this camera package, email me and I'll give
you some operating tips for the camera that I came about the hard way.

Good luck.

Tom




[email protected] November 21st 05 07:19 PM

Canon PowerShot A610 Digital Camera
 

*JimH* wrote:

I used to have a 3.2 mp Sony Mavica and the picture quality was great. I do
not think you will see a difference, but I am not an expert.


Like the pictures you posted showing houses on Erie? If that's the
quality of pictures you get from your Sony, no thanks.


[email protected] November 21st 05 07:25 PM

Canon PowerShot A610 Digital Camera
 

Sir Rodney Smithers wrote:
I am trying to find a camera for my college age daughter.

I want the best combination of compact size and quality.

Does anyone have any recommendations of cameras I should look at?

Does anyone have any experience with the Canon PowerShot A610 Digital
Camera?


Fujifilm has one on sale at Wal-Mart, 4mp, with memory card, case, mini
tripod, etc. Good price, nice little camera. Look at it he
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...uct_id=4172372


Sir Rodney Smithers November 21st 05 08:31 PM

Canon PowerShot A610 Digital Camera
 
Wow, I was surprised, for an entry level point and shot, this inexpensive
camera got good reviews. The only problem people had with it was it was
very poor quality at night.



wrote in message
ups.com...

Sir Rodney Smithers wrote:
I am trying to find a camera for my college age daughter.

I want the best combination of compact size and quality.

Does anyone have any recommendations of cameras I should look at?

Does anyone have any experience with the Canon PowerShot A610 Digital
Camera?


Fujifilm has one on sale at Wal-Mart, 4mp, with memory card, case, mini
tripod, etc. Good price, nice little camera. Look at it he
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...uct_id=4172372




*JimH* November 21st 05 09:07 PM

Canon PowerShot A610 Digital Camera
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
wrote:
*JimH* wrote:

I used to have a 3.2 mp Sony Mavica and the picture quality was great.
I do
not think you will see a difference, but I am not an expert.


Like the pictures you posted showing houses on Erie? If that's the
quality of pictures you get from your Sony, no thanks.



I remember those photos. They were awful.



Yep, I admit it. They were. New camera that I had not used before. It is
an HP Photosmart R707.

Again, I am not an expert on cameras or a professional
photographer........nor do I plan one on tv. ;-)



John H. November 21st 05 09:23 PM

Canon PowerShot A610 Digital Camera
 
On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 12:53:56 -0500, "Sir Rodney Smithers" Ask me about my
knighthood. wrote:

Tom,
Thanks a lot. It seems to have a great price compared to the other DSLR.


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 08:04:28 -0500, "Sir Rodney Smithers" Ask me
about my knighthood. wrote:

Before you go to hell though, can you check out this combo pack and let me
know what you think.

http://www.expresscameras.com/prodet...?prodid=362726


Glad I could help. :)

That's an excellent package, although I would spend the extra money
and obtain a 1 gig flash memory - you will kill that 256 in nothing
flat - I don't mean "kill" as in "broke" but kill as in limited
memory. The 1 gig card is a big help.

The latest firmware upgrade for the E-300 has really taken great
performance and made it better.

If you do decide to obtain this camera package, email me and I'll give
you some operating tips for the camera that I came about the hard way.

Good luck.

Tom



Be sure you are getting a USA camera and not a 'gray market' import. The
gray market stuff may not come with the factory warranty.

I'd still go with the Nikon D70s. Or, the D50.

DSLR is the only way to go if she is semi serious about photography.
--
John H

"It's *not* a baby kicking, beautiful bride, it's only a fetus!"

A Famous Hypocrite

John H. November 22nd 05 12:15 AM

Canon PowerShot A610 Digital Camera
 
On 21 Nov 2005 11:25:44 -0800, wrote:


Sir Rodney Smithers wrote:
I am trying to find a camera for my college age daughter.

I want the best combination of compact size and quality.

Does anyone have any recommendations of cameras I should look at?

Does anyone have any experience with the Canon PowerShot A610 Digital
Camera?


Fujifilm has one on sale at Wal-Mart, 4mp, with memory card, case, mini
tripod, etc. Good price, nice little camera. Look at it he
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...uct_id=4172372

Harry, you should jump right on that! I thought you folks were down on WM?
I guess the truth will out, huh?
--
John H

"It's *not* a baby kicking, beautiful bride, it's only a fetus!"

A Famous Hypocrite

[email protected] November 22nd 05 01:37 PM

Canon PowerShot A610 Digital Camera
 

Sir Rodney Smithers wrote:
Wow, I was surprised, for an entry level point and shot, this inexpensive
camera got good reviews. The only problem people had with it was it was
very poor quality at night.


Well, the built in flash, as is typical of most built in flashes in
digital cameras, isn't that great. But, you can slow the shutter speed
down in flash mode enough to make decent night shots. For the price,
it's actually a really cool little camera, has LOTS of features that
more expensive cameras don't have, can take video. I've bought a 1GB
card for it, and can take 90 minutes of good quality video with it, or
hold hundreds of pictures.


[email protected] November 22nd 05 01:39 PM

Canon PowerShot A610 Digital Camera
 

John H. wrote:
On 21 Nov 2005 11:25:44 -0800, wrote:


Sir Rodney Smithers wrote:
I am trying to find a camera for my college age daughter.

I want the best combination of compact size and quality.

Does anyone have any recommendations of cameras I should look at?

Does anyone have any experience with the Canon PowerShot A610 Digital
Camera?


Fujifilm has one on sale at Wal-Mart, 4mp, with memory card, case, mini
tripod, etc. Good price, nice little camera. Look at it he
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...uct_id=4172372

Harry, you should jump right on that! I thought you folks were down on WM?
I guess the truth will out, huh?
--
John H


The truth? Your alcohol addled brain is making you think things that
just aren't correct once more. Please show where I EVER said I was
"down on WM", or made any suggestion that I was.


[email protected] November 22nd 05 02:11 PM

Canon PowerShot A610 Digital Camera
 

Harry Krause wrote:
wrote:

Well, the built in flash, as is typical of most built in flashes in
digital cameras, isn't that great. But, you can slow the shutter speed
down in flash mode enough to make decent night shots. For the price,
it's actually a really cool little camera, has LOTS of features that
more expensive cameras don't have, can take video. I've bought a 1GB
card for it, and can take 90 minutes of good quality video with it, or
hold hundreds of pictures.




Learning to use flash properly is one of the major challenges in general
photography. The built-in flash on most cameras, not just the less
expensive digitals or film units, isn't very powerful, and tends to
light up only the center portion of what you're shooting, and that not
very well. Also, the small built-in flash units really have no punch;
they cannot reach out any significant distance to light up a subject or
a scene.

I've been told by professionals that I shoot "damned good portraits" of
people. Well, they're ok, but I have a secret. When I want a good head
and shoulders of a subject, I take that person outdoors in flattering
natural light. You can't always do this, of course, but I try.



--
War is not pro-life.


Absolutely true. Even with film photography, as far as flash goes, you
get what you pay for. It would be nice if more lower end digital units
had a hot shoe so you could use the sync flash that you wanted.


John H. November 22nd 05 08:45 PM

Canon PowerShot A610 Digital Camera
 
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 08:44:07 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

wrote:

Well, the built in flash, as is typical of most built in flashes in
digital cameras, isn't that great. But, you can slow the shutter speed
down in flash mode enough to make decent night shots. For the price,
it's actually a really cool little camera, has LOTS of features that
more expensive cameras don't have, can take video. I've bought a 1GB
card for it, and can take 90 minutes of good quality video with it, or
hold hundreds of pictures.




Learning to use flash properly is one of the major challenges in general
photography. The built-in flash on most cameras, not just the less
expensive digitals or film units, isn't very powerful, and tends to
light up only the center portion of what you're shooting, and that not
very well. Also, the small built-in flash units really have no punch;
they cannot reach out any significant distance to light up a subject or
a scene.

I've been told by professionals that I shoot "damned good portraits" of
people. Well, they're ok, but I have a secret. When I want a good head
and shoulders of a subject, I take that person outdoors in flattering
natural light. You can't always do this, of course, but I try.


The SB800 packs some punch!
--
John H

"It's *not* a baby kicking, beautiful bride, it's only a fetus!"

A Famous Hypocrite

John H. November 22nd 05 08:46 PM

Canon PowerShot A610 Digital Camera
 
On 22 Nov 2005 05:39:51 -0800, wrote:


John H. wrote:
On 21 Nov 2005 11:25:44 -0800,
wrote:


Sir Rodney Smithers wrote:
I am trying to find a camera for my college age daughter.

I want the best combination of compact size and quality.

Does anyone have any recommendations of cameras I should look at?

Does anyone have any experience with the Canon PowerShot A610 Digital
Camera?

Fujifilm has one on sale at Wal-Mart, 4mp, with memory card, case, mini
tripod, etc. Good price, nice little camera. Look at it he
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...uct_id=4172372

Harry, you should jump right on that! I thought you folks were down on WM?
I guess the truth will out, huh?
--
John H


The truth? Your alcohol addled brain is making you think things that
just aren't correct once more. Please show where I EVER said I was
"down on WM", or made any suggestion that I was.


Well, tell us what's good about Wal-Mart! Say it loud enough for Harry to
hear.
--
John H

"It's *not* a baby kicking, beautiful bride, it's only a fetus!"

A Famous Hypocrite

Sir Rodney Smithers November 22nd 05 09:41 PM

Canon PowerShot A610 Digital Camera
 
Harry,
No we don't, you and Kevin just believe we do. No truth to your
assumptions.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
John H. wrote:
On 22 Nov 2005 05:39:51 -0800, wrote:

John H. wrote:
On 21 Nov 2005 11:25:44 -0800,
wrote:

Sir Rodney Smithers wrote:
I am trying to find a camera for my college age daughter.

I want the best combination of compact size and quality.

Does anyone have any recommendations of cameras I should look at?

Does anyone have any experience with the Canon PowerShot A610 Digital
Camera?
Fujifilm has one on sale at Wal-Mart, 4mp, with memory card, case,
mini
tripod, etc. Good price, nice little camera. Look at it he
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...uct_id=4172372
Harry, you should jump right on that! I thought you folks were down on
WM?
I guess the truth will out, huh?
--
John H
The truth? Your alcohol addled brain is making you think things that
just aren't correct once more. Please show where I EVER said I was
"down on WM", or made any suggestion that I was.


Well, tell us what's good about Wal-Mart! Say it loud enough for Harry to
hear.



And thus, John points out a major difference between conservatives and
those of us who are moderate to liberal. *We* unlike the conservatives do
not march lockstep in any particular direction, nor do we feel the need,
like lemmings, to jump off a cliff just because the head lemming does.

I think Wal-Mart sucks. I know enough about the corporation and what it
does and how it operates to maintain my opinion. I do whatever I can to
help ensure Wal-Mart has no more presence than it already has in my
community. I don't shop there. I won't shop there.

But I don't do anything to prevent others from shopping at my community's
Wal-Mart.

You conservatives, on the other hand, want everyone to conform to your
beliefs about Wal-Mart, about jesus, about abortion, about Bush, et
cetera.



--
Annoy Conservatives: Share!





[email protected] November 22nd 05 09:58 PM

Canon PowerShot A610 Digital Camera
 

John H. wrote:
On 22 Nov 2005 05:39:51 -0800, wrote:


John H. wrote:
On 21 Nov 2005 11:25:44 -0800,
wrote:


Sir Rodney Smithers wrote:
I am trying to find a camera for my college age daughter.

I want the best combination of compact size and quality.

Does anyone have any recommendations of cameras I should look at?

Does anyone have any experience with the Canon PowerShot A610 Digital
Camera?

Fujifilm has one on sale at Wal-Mart, 4mp, with memory card, case, mini
tripod, etc. Good price, nice little camera. Look at it he
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...uct_id=4172372

Harry, you should jump right on that! I thought you folks were down on WM?
I guess the truth will out, huh?
--
John H


The truth? Your alcohol addled brain is making you think things that
just aren't correct once more. Please show where I EVER said I was
"down on WM", or made any suggestion that I was.


Well, tell us what's good about Wal-Mart! Say it loud enough for Harry to
hear.


Sure thing, as soon as you "tell us" what I've ever said to make you
come to the conclusion that I was "down on WM".


*JimH* November 22nd 05 10:02 PM

Canon PowerShot A610 Digital Camera
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
John H. wrote:
On 22 Nov 2005 05:39:51 -0800, wrote:

John H. wrote:
On 21 Nov 2005 11:25:44 -0800,
wrote:

Sir Rodney Smithers wrote:
I am trying to find a camera for my college age daughter.

I want the best combination of compact size and quality.

Does anyone have any recommendations of cameras I should look at?

Does anyone have any experience with the Canon PowerShot A610 Digital
Camera?
Fujifilm has one on sale at Wal-Mart, 4mp, with memory card, case,
mini
tripod, etc. Good price, nice little camera. Look at it he
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...uct_id=4172372
Harry, you should jump right on that! I thought you folks were down on
WM?
I guess the truth will out, huh?
--
John H
The truth? Your alcohol addled brain is making you think things that
just aren't correct once more. Please show where I EVER said I was
"down on WM", or made any suggestion that I was.


Well, tell us what's good about Wal-Mart! Say it loud enough for Harry to
hear.



And thus, John points out a major difference between conservatives and
those of us who are moderate to liberal. *We* unlike the conservatives do
not march lockstep in any particular direction, nor do we feel the need,
like lemmings, to jump off a cliff just because the head lemming does.

I think Wal-Mart sucks. I know enough about the corporation and what it
does and how it operates to maintain my opinion. I do whatever I can to
help ensure Wal-Mart has no more presence than it already has in my
community. I don't shop there. I won't shop there.

But I don't do anything to prevent others from shopping at my community's
Wal-Mart.

You conservatives, on the other hand, want everyone to conform to your
beliefs about Wal-Mart, about jesus, about abortion, about Bush, et
cetera.



Hell, I have plenty of liberal friends and relatives and they all love
Wal-Mart.

Why is this a black and white issue with you Harry?



John H. November 23rd 05 12:05 AM

Canon PowerShot A610 Digital Camera
 
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 15:57:04 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 08:44:07 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

wrote:

Well, the built in flash, as is typical of most built in flashes in
digital cameras, isn't that great. But, you can slow the shutter speed
down in flash mode enough to make decent night shots. For the price,
it's actually a really cool little camera, has LOTS of features that
more expensive cameras don't have, can take video. I've bought a 1GB
card for it, and can take 90 minutes of good quality video with it, or
hold hundreds of pictures.


Learning to use flash properly is one of the major challenges in general
photography. The built-in flash on most cameras, not just the less
expensive digitals or film units, isn't very powerful, and tends to
light up only the center portion of what you're shooting, and that not
very well. Also, the small built-in flash units really have no punch;
they cannot reach out any significant distance to light up a subject or
a scene.

I've been told by professionals that I shoot "damned good portraits" of
people. Well, they're ok, but I have a secret. When I want a good head
and shoulders of a subject, I take that person outdoors in flattering
natural light. You can't always do this, of course, but I try.


The SB800 packs some punch!


No doubt about it. Too much for me, so I bought the SB600.


Too much? That makes no sense. If there's too much light, don't use a
flash.
--
John H

"It's *not* a baby kicking, beautiful bride, it's only a fetus!"

A Famous Hypocrite

John H. November 23rd 05 12:06 AM

Canon PowerShot A610 Digital Camera
 
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 15:56:28 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On 22 Nov 2005 05:39:51 -0800, wrote:

John H. wrote:
On 21 Nov 2005 11:25:44 -0800,
wrote:

Sir Rodney Smithers wrote:
I am trying to find a camera for my college age daughter.

I want the best combination of compact size and quality.

Does anyone have any recommendations of cameras I should look at?

Does anyone have any experience with the Canon PowerShot A610 Digital
Camera?
Fujifilm has one on sale at Wal-Mart, 4mp, with memory card, case, mini
tripod, etc. Good price, nice little camera. Look at it he
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...uct_id=4172372
Harry, you should jump right on that! I thought you folks were down on WM?
I guess the truth will out, huh?
--
John H
The truth? Your alcohol addled brain is making you think things that
just aren't correct once more. Please show where I EVER said I was
"down on WM", or made any suggestion that I was.


Well, tell us what's good about Wal-Mart! Say it loud enough for Harry to
hear.



And thus, John points out a major difference between conservatives and
those of us who are moderate to liberal. *We* unlike the conservatives
do not march lockstep in any particular direction, nor do we feel the
need, like lemmings, to jump off a cliff just because the head lemming does.

I think Wal-Mart sucks. I know enough about the corporation and what it
does and how it operates to maintain my opinion. I do whatever I can to
help ensure Wal-Mart has no more presence than it already has in my
community. I don't shop there. I won't shop there.

But I don't do anything to prevent others from shopping at my
community's Wal-Mart.

You conservatives, on the other hand, want everyone to conform to your
beliefs about Wal-Mart, about jesus, about abortion, about Bush, et cetera.


We only want what's right, Harry!
--
John H

"It's *not* a baby kicking, beautiful bride, it's only a fetus!"

A Famous Hypocrite

*JimH* November 23rd 05 12:13 AM

Canon PowerShot A610 Digital Camera
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
John H. wrote:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 15:57:04 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 08:44:07 -0500, Harry Krause

wrote:

wrote:

Well, the built in flash, as is typical of most built in flashes in
digital cameras, isn't that great. But, you can slow the shutter
speed
down in flash mode enough to make decent night shots. For the price,
it's actually a really cool little camera, has LOTS of features that
more expensive cameras don't have, can take video. I've bought a 1GB
card for it, and can take 90 minutes of good quality video with it,
or
hold hundreds of pictures.

Learning to use flash properly is one of the major challenges in
general photography. The built-in flash on most cameras, not just the
less expensive digitals or film units, isn't very powerful, and tends
to light up only the center portion of what you're shooting, and that
not very well. Also, the small built-in flash units really have no
punch; they cannot reach out any significant distance to light up a
subject or a scene.

I've been told by professionals that I shoot "damned good portraits"
of people. Well, they're ok, but I have a secret. When I want a good
head and shoulders of a subject, I take that person outdoors in
flattering natural light. You can't always do this, of course, but I
try.
The SB800 packs some punch!
No doubt about it. Too much for me, so I bought the SB600.


Too much? That makes no sense. If there's too much light, don't use a
flash.



Ub, John...nevermind. I keep forgetting, you're not interested in
discussions that involve intellect.



The first sign of losing a discussion........start the personal attacks.

Hee-hee.



*JimH* November 23rd 05 12:32 AM

Canon PowerShot A610 Digital Camera
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
*JimH* wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
John H. wrote:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 15:57:04 -0500, Harry Krause

wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 08:44:07 -0500, Harry Krause

wrote:

wrote:

Well, the built in flash, as is typical of most built in flashes in
digital cameras, isn't that great. But, you can slow the shutter
speed
down in flash mode enough to make decent night shots. For the
price,
it's actually a really cool little camera, has LOTS of features
that
more expensive cameras don't have, can take video. I've bought a
1GB
card for it, and can take 90 minutes of good quality video with it,
or
hold hundreds of pictures.
Learning to use flash properly is one of the major challenges in
general photography. The built-in flash on most cameras, not just
the less expensive digitals or film units, isn't very powerful, and
tends to light up only the center portion of what you're shooting,
and that not very well. Also, the small built-in flash units really
have no punch; they cannot reach out any significant distance to
light up a subject or a scene.

I've been told by professionals that I shoot "damned good portraits"
of people. Well, they're ok, but I have a secret. When I want a good
head and shoulders of a subject, I take that person outdoors in
flattering natural light. You can't always do this, of course, but I
try.
The SB800 packs some punch!
No doubt about it. Too much for me, so I bought the SB600.
Too much? That makes no sense. If there's too much light, don't use a
flash.

Ub, John...nevermind. I keep forgetting, you're not interested in
discussions that involve intellect.



The first sign of losing a discussion........start the personal attacks.

Hee-hee.



Herring's posit was absurd. Tell you what, Jim. Explain my reference "Too
much for me, so I bought the SB600."

What do you suppose that sentence means? Herring didn't know. Do you?




If you did not understand it, why not just stay silent or ask him to better
explain rather than throw an insult to him?



*JimH* November 23rd 05 12:38 AM

Canon PowerShot A610 Digital Camera
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
*JimH* wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
*JimH* wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
John H. wrote:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 15:57:04 -0500, Harry Krause

wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 08:44:07 -0500, Harry Krause

wrote:

wrote:

Well, the built in flash, as is typical of most built in flashes
in
digital cameras, isn't that great. But, you can slow the shutter
speed
down in flash mode enough to make decent night shots. For the
price,
it's actually a really cool little camera, has LOTS of features
that
more expensive cameras don't have, can take video. I've bought a
1GB
card for it, and can take 90 minutes of good quality video with
it, or
hold hundreds of pictures.
Learning to use flash properly is one of the major challenges in
general photography. The built-in flash on most cameras, not just
the less expensive digitals or film units, isn't very powerful,
and tends to light up only the center portion of what you're
shooting, and that not very well. Also, the small built-in flash
units really have no punch; they cannot reach out any significant
distance to light up a subject or a scene.

I've been told by professionals that I shoot "damned good
portraits" of people. Well, they're ok, but I have a secret. When
I want a good head and shoulders of a subject, I take that person
outdoors in flattering natural light. You can't always do this, of
course, but I try.
The SB800 packs some punch!
No doubt about it. Too much for me, so I bought the SB600.
Too much? That makes no sense. If there's too much light, don't use a
flash.
Ub, John...nevermind. I keep forgetting, you're not interested in
discussions that involve intellect.

The first sign of losing a discussion........start the personal
attacks.

Hee-hee.

Herring's posit was absurd. Tell you what, Jim. Explain my reference
"Too much for me, so I bought the SB600."

What do you suppose that sentence means? Herring didn't know. Do you?




If you did not understand it, why not just stay silent or ask him to
better explain rather than throw an insult to him?



A. You don't understand my comment.
B. You assume I don't understand Herring's comment
C. You accuse me of tossing an insult at the same time you toss one, even
though my comment was not an insult.
D. You want a pass on your insulting behavior.



The only insulting behavior I have read today is from you.

What insult did I throw your way Harry and what is my insulting behavior you
complain about?



[email protected] November 23rd 05 12:49 PM

Canon PowerShot A610 Digital Camera
 

*JimH* wrote:

The first sign of losing a discussion........start the personal attacks.


Holy cow!! Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!!!!



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