Yo!! Thunder...
 

On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 07:43:43 -0500, Bert Robbins wrote:


You have no proof that that yellowcake was or was not exported from Niger
to Iraq. It bas been accepted in some circles that no yellowcake went from
Niger to Iraq.

LOL, don't you have that backwards? The claim was used as partial
justification for an invasion. It would seem to me, the burden of proof
is on the claimant. To date, there is no evidence that the Niger claims
were anything but BS.


There is no line of BS. Iraq was still under the terms and conditions of a
surrender from the first gulf war. Iraq's failure to abide by the terms
and conditions there was enough reason to resume hostilities. Iraq was
engaged in acquiring nuclear weapons against the UN's own resolutions not
to.

Cite, please? One that is verifiable is preferable, but hell, I'll even
accept a NewsMax article that states Iraq was engaged in acquiring nuclear
weapons. Try to keep at least a little current. The nuclear weapons
claim has been off the table for some time now.


Put Wilson under oath and let him answer the questions. This one simple
activity will bring clarity to this whole mess.

My guess is that if there was *any* reason to believe Wilson outed his
wife, Fitzgerald would have done that very thing.

Yo!! Thunder...
 

"thunder" wrote in message
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On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 19:08:39 -0500, Bert Robbins wrote:


Niger's chief product is yellow cake urainium do you think that they are
going to come out and say that they are in contact with Iraq about
selling
their chief product.

Guy, it has been well established that there was no Niger yellowcake going
to Iraq, none, zip, nada.

The British MI6 intel showed that Iraq was actively *seeking* to obtain
yellowcake uranium from Iraq.


Rather than clinging to the hope that it could
have happened, you really should be wondering how this bogus claim was
ever raised to the surface. If you are going to disregard 250 years of
precedent, and have a preemptive invasion, you should, at a minimum, have
a better line of BS.

The war was fought to enforce two UN security resolutions that Saddam had
violated. That is not the first time such a war was fought.





If Wilson blabbed to anyone who would listen, where are they? So far,
we have the Vallely claim, but no others. It is not publicly known if
Wilson told any reporters. It is publicly known that administration
officials did.

Do you really believe that Wilson never told Kristof and Pincus that his
wife worked for CIA while he was telling the Niger tale to them in
April/May 2003?



The reporters are looking for a juciy storry, the longer it plays out the
better for them.

I have a feeling that it's not going to be "better" for some of them.


Come on, I'll ask again, if Wilson blabbed to anyone who would listen,
where are they? You can right off all of the worthless "liebral" media,
but you would think NewsMax or Rush could at least give us a few names.
Don't you think?

Until Kristof and Pincus are compelled to reveal their sources and notes for
their May 6th and May 24th stories, and specifically what was revealed to
them at that time, you won't have a smoking gun. Unless the room was bugged
when Wilson told Pincus, how would anybody else besides the two of them
know?

Yo!! Happy Tooth
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Forget that Grady.

This is what you want:

http://www.parkerboats.net/pages/boa...l.jsp?boatid=4

Not enough bunks for the kids.

But I like Parkers.

Yo!! Thunder...
 

On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 13:46:06 +0000, NOYB wrote:


The British MI6 intel showed that Iraq was actively *seeking* to obtain
yellowcake uranium from Iraq.

So the President said. Actually, he said the British government, but no
matter, it's still BS. BS about BS, is still BS. Read the Butler Report.
Read the Downing Street memos. Iraq was not actively or inactively
seeking yellowcake from Niger. To state otherwise, is BS.


The war was fought to enforce two UN security resolutions that Saddam had
violated. That is not the first time such a war was fought.

More BS. The UN did not authorize the invasion. To state otherwise is
disingenuous.


Do you really believe that Wilson never told Kristof and Pincus that his
wife worked for CIA while he was telling the Niger tale to them in
April/May 2003?

I am very doubtful that he did, and without evidence to the contrary,
assume he didn't. You, on the other hand, without any supporting
evidence, seem sure that he did. So sure, in fact, that you have
suggested Kristof and Pincus face conspiracy and perjury charges. I
merely asked, if Wilson talked to anyone who would listen, where are they?


Come on, I'll ask again, if Wilson blabbed to anyone who would listen,
where are they? You can right off all of the worthless "liebral" media,
but you would think NewsMax or Rush could at least give us a few names.
Don't you think?

Until Kristof and Pincus are compelled to reveal their sources and notes
for their May 6th and May 24th stories, and specifically what was revealed
to them at that time, you won't have a smoking gun. Unless the room was
bugged when Wilson told Pincus, how would anybody else besides the two of
them know?

Come on, NOYB, "all the reporters knew". Plame's identity was well known.
Wilson talked to anyone who would listen. Wilson outed his wife. To
who? Where are they? Where are all these people who knew her employment
status? Besides Vallely, who else has come forward? Who else knew her
CIA affiliation *before* June of 2003? Come on, it's an open secret.
Surely someone on the right has enough connections to at least give us a
few names?

Yo!! Happy Tooth
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Forget that Grady.

This is what you want:

http://www.parkerboats.net/pages/boa...l.jsp?boatid=4

Not enough bunks for the kids.

But I like Parkers.


Aha! Kids! No wonder you want a Grady. Creature comforts.
I like Gradys myself. Our Parker dealer is, I believe, also the largest
Grady dealer in the Bay area.

Yes. 3 kids. Ages 6, 4, and 2 1/2.

I needed something with an A/C, generator, and higher gunwales.



In fact, he's got a lightly used 30' Marlin available:

http://www.tristatemarine.com/Used-B...rady_white.htm

And another:

http://www.tristatemarine.com/Used-B..._white300m.htm

The first boat is too much money for my budget. They have the twin to that
boat at FishTale Marina in Ft. Myers Beach for the same exact price.

The second boat looks just like the one that I'm buying. The ad that you
posted doesn't list the year, or whether it has a generator, outriggers,
radar, or autopilot...all of which are on the 2001 that I'm buying. Of
course, I'm paying about $5k more than that asking price...so I guess it's a
wash (assuming that the one you listed is also a 2001). If that one is a
2001 or newer, it's a very good buy...because it appears to be in excellent
shape. The one that I'm purchasing hasn't been bottom painted, and has been
stored high and dry since new. It's also within range of here, without
having to pay someone $2/mile to ship it from Maryland.




I just heard from the surveyor about 1 hour ago. There's greening on the
through-hulls and seacocks (minor corrosion...nothing major), and some minor
dings and scratches in the rubrail and sides of the boat. Everything works,
and there's no sign of water intrusion, or moisture in the hull. The engine
compression tested well within the 10% variation across all cylinders

All of the electronics work. He didn't test the generator because I told
him that I already knew that it didn't work. But the seller agreed to fix
or replace it.

I'll be departing Tampa tomorrow morning if seas permit. Otherwise, I'll
handle the paperwork tomorrow and bring it back on Sunday...or the Friday
after Thanksgiving.

I was up at 4:30am this morning. I don't know if it was last night's meal
of a spicy corn/crab chowder, mahi with shrimp and scallops in a lemon
butter caper sauce, and a couple of Oktoberfest Sam Adam's...or if it was
excitement over this boat...but I had horrible hearturn this morning. ;-)

Yo!! Happy Tooth
 

"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Forget that Grady.

This is what you want:

http://www.parkerboats.net/pages/boa...l.jsp?boatid=4

Not enough bunks for the kids.

But I like Parkers.


Aha! Kids! No wonder you want a Grady. Creature comforts.
I like Gradys myself. Our Parker dealer is, I believe, also the largest
Grady dealer in the Bay area.

Yes. 3 kids. Ages 6, 4, and 2 1/2.

I needed something with an A/C, generator, and higher gunwales.



In fact, he's got a lightly used 30' Marlin available:

http://www.tristatemarine.com/Used-B...rady_white.htm

And another:

http://www.tristatemarine.com/Used-B..._white300m.htm

The first boat is too much money for my budget. They have the twin to
that boat at FishTale Marina in Ft. Myers Beach for the same exact price.

The second boat looks just like the one that I'm buying. The ad that you
posted doesn't list the year, or whether it has a generator, outriggers,
radar, or autopilot...all of which are on the 2001 that I'm buying. Of
course, I'm paying about $5k more than that asking price...so I guess it's
a wash (assuming that the one you listed is also a 2001). If that one is
a 2001 or newer, it's a very good buy...because it appears to be in
excellent shape. The one that I'm purchasing hasn't been bottom painted,
and has been stored high and dry since new. It's also within range of
here, without having to pay someone $2/mile to ship it from Maryland.




I just heard from the surveyor about 1 hour ago. There's greening on the
through-hulls and seacocks (minor corrosion...nothing major), and some
minor dings and scratches in the rubrail and sides of the boat.
Everything works, and there's no sign of water intrusion, or moisture in
the hull. The engine compression tested well within the 10% variation
across all cylinders

All of the electronics work. He didn't test the generator because I told
him that I already knew that it didn't work. But the seller agreed to fix
or replace it.

I'll be departing Tampa tomorrow morning if seas permit. Otherwise, I'll
handle the paperwork tomorrow and bring it back on Sunday...or the Friday
after Thanksgiving.

I was up at 4:30am this morning. I don't know if it was last night's meal
of a spicy corn/crab chowder, mahi with shrimp and scallops in a lemon
butter caper sauce, and a couple of Oktoberfest Sam Adam's...or if it was
excitement over this boat...but I had horrible hearturn this morning. ;-)


It should be like Christmas morning for you without the heartburn.

Congratulations on the purchase of the new boat.

Yo!! Happy Tooth
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Forget that Grady.

This is what you want:

http://www.parkerboats.net/pages/boa...l.jsp?boatid=4
Not enough bunks for the kids.

But I like Parkers.

Aha! Kids! No wonder you want a Grady. Creature comforts.
I like Gradys myself. Our Parker dealer is, I believe, also the largest
Grady dealer in the Bay area.

Yes. 3 kids. Ages 6, 4, and 2 1/2.

I needed something with an A/C, generator, and higher gunwales.


In fact, he's got a lightly used 30' Marlin available:

http://www.tristatemarine.com/Used-B...rady_white.htm

And another:

http://www.tristatemarine.com/Used-B..._white300m.htm

The first boat is too much money for my budget. They have the twin to
that boat at FishTale Marina in Ft. Myers Beach for the same exact price.

The second boat looks just like the one that I'm buying. The ad that you
posted doesn't list the year, or whether it has a generator, outriggers,
radar, or autopilot...all of which are on the 2001 that I'm buying. Of
course, I'm paying about $5k more than that asking price...so I guess
it's a wash (assuming that the one you listed is also a 2001). If that
one is a 2001 or newer, it's a very good buy...because it appears to be
in excellent shape. The one that I'm purchasing hasn't been bottom
painted, and has been stored high and dry since new. It's also within
range of here, without having to pay someone $2/mile to ship it from
Maryland.




I just heard from the surveyor about 1 hour ago. There's greening on the
through-hulls and seacocks (minor corrosion...nothing major), and some
minor dings and scratches in the rubrail and sides of the boat.
Everything works, and there's no sign of water intrusion, or moisture in
the hull. The engine compression tested well within the 10% variation
across all cylinders

All of the electronics work. He didn't test the generator because I told
him that I already knew that it didn't work. But the seller agreed to
fix or replace it.

I'll be departing Tampa tomorrow morning if seas permit. Otherwise, I'll
handle the paperwork tomorrow and bring it back on Sunday...or the Friday
after Thanksgiving.

I was up at 4:30am this morning. I don't know if it was last night's
meal of a spicy corn/crab chowder, mahi with shrimp and scallops in a
lemon butter caper sauce, and a couple of Oktoberfest Sam Adam's...or if
it was excitement over this boat...but I had horrible hearturn this
morning. ;-)



Good luck. Are you selling your whaler or building a flotilla?

I'm going to sell the bigger Whaler...and keep the 17' Outrage.

Actually, I told my wife that she could redo the kitchen as soon as the
Whaler sells...so she's been telling anybody who will listen that it's for
sale. She has me sending out 4 emails next week to people who already
expressed to her that they might be interested in it.

With the incentive that I offered her, while I'm fishing on the new boat,
she'll be working hard to sell the old one. I have my own live-in
broker...but this broker charges a 110% commission.

Yo!! Happy Tooth
 

On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 19:28:58 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

I'll be departing Tampa tomorrow morning if seas permit. Otherwise, I'll
handle the paperwork tomorrow and bring it back on Sunday...or the Friday
after Thanksgiving.

===============================

Best of luck. It's always exciting bringing a new boat home.

Yo!! Happy Tooth
 

On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 00:52:24 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Forget that Grady.

This is what you want:

http://www.parkerboats.net/pages/boa...l.jsp?boatid=4
Not enough bunks for the kids.

But I like Parkers.

Aha! Kids! No wonder you want a Grady. Creature comforts.
I like Gradys myself. Our Parker dealer is, I believe, also the largest
Grady dealer in the Bay area.

Yes. 3 kids. Ages 6, 4, and 2 1/2.

I needed something with an A/C, generator, and higher gunwales.


In fact, he's got a lightly used 30' Marlin available:

http://www.tristatemarine.com/Used-B...rady_white.htm

And another:

http://www.tristatemarine.com/Used-B..._white300m.htm

The first boat is too much money for my budget. They have the twin to
that boat at FishTale Marina in Ft. Myers Beach for the same exact price.

The second boat looks just like the one that I'm buying. The ad that you
posted doesn't list the year, or whether it has a generator, outriggers,
radar, or autopilot...all of which are on the 2001 that I'm buying. Of
course, I'm paying about $5k more than that asking price...so I guess
it's a wash (assuming that the one you listed is also a 2001). If that
one is a 2001 or newer, it's a very good buy...because it appears to be
in excellent shape. The one that I'm purchasing hasn't been bottom
painted, and has been stored high and dry since new. It's also within
range of here, without having to pay someone $2/mile to ship it from
Maryland.




I just heard from the surveyor about 1 hour ago. There's greening on the
through-hulls and seacocks (minor corrosion...nothing major), and some
minor dings and scratches in the rubrail and sides of the boat.
Everything works, and there's no sign of water intrusion, or moisture in
the hull. The engine compression tested well within the 10% variation
across all cylinders

All of the electronics work. He didn't test the generator because I told
him that I already knew that it didn't work. But the seller agreed to
fix or replace it.

I'll be departing Tampa tomorrow morning if seas permit. Otherwise, I'll
handle the paperwork tomorrow and bring it back on Sunday...or the Friday
after Thanksgiving.

I was up at 4:30am this morning. I don't know if it was last night's
meal of a spicy corn/crab chowder, mahi with shrimp and scallops in a
lemon butter caper sauce, and a couple of Oktoberfest Sam Adam's...or if
it was excitement over this boat...but I had horrible hearturn this
morning. ;-)



Good luck. Are you selling your whaler or building a flotilla?

I'm going to sell the bigger Whaler...and keep the 17' Outrage.

Actually, I told my wife that she could redo the kitchen as soon as the
Whaler sells...so she's been telling anybody who will listen that it's for
sale. She has me sending out 4 emails next week to people who already
expressed to her that they might be interested in it.

With the incentive that I offered her, while I'm fishing on the new boat,
she'll be working hard to sell the old one. I have my own live-in
broker...but this broker charges a 110% commission.

I second the congratulations on the new boat and wish you all the success in the
world with it!

Parkers are nice, for fishing, but they are most definitely *not* a family boat.
The Grady's are nicely outfitted for family getaways *and* for fishing.

Have a good one.
--
John H

"It's *not* a baby kicking, bride of mine, it's just a fetus!"

A Famous Hypocrite

Yo!! Happy Tooth
 

On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 20:36:39 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 00:52:24 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Forget that Grady.

This is what you want:

http://www.parkerboats.net/pages/boa...l.jsp?boatid=4
Not enough bunks for the kids.

But I like Parkers.
Aha! Kids! No wonder you want a Grady. Creature comforts.
I like Gradys myself. Our Parker dealer is, I believe, also the largest
Grady dealer in the Bay area.
Yes. 3 kids. Ages 6, 4, and 2 1/2.

I needed something with an A/C, generator, and higher gunwales.


In fact, he's got a lightly used 30' Marlin available:

http://www.tristatemarine.com/Used-B...rady_white.htm

And another:

http://www.tristatemarine.com/Used-B..._white300m.htm
The first boat is too much money for my budget. They have the twin to
that boat at FishTale Marina in Ft. Myers Beach for the same exact price.

The second boat looks just like the one that I'm buying. The ad that you
posted doesn't list the year, or whether it has a generator, outriggers,
radar, or autopilot...all of which are on the 2001 that I'm buying. Of
course, I'm paying about $5k more than that asking price...so I guess
it's a wash (assuming that the one you listed is also a 2001). If that
one is a 2001 or newer, it's a very good buy...because it appears to be
in excellent shape. The one that I'm purchasing hasn't been bottom
painted, and has been stored high and dry since new. It's also within
range of here, without having to pay someone $2/mile to ship it from
Maryland.




I just heard from the surveyor about 1 hour ago. There's greening on the
through-hulls and seacocks (minor corrosion...nothing major), and some
minor dings and scratches in the rubrail and sides of the boat.
Everything works, and there's no sign of water intrusion, or moisture in
the hull. The engine compression tested well within the 10% variation
across all cylinders

All of the electronics work. He didn't test the generator because I told
him that I already knew that it didn't work. But the seller agreed to
fix or replace it.

I'll be departing Tampa tomorrow morning if seas permit. Otherwise, I'll
handle the paperwork tomorrow and bring it back on Sunday...or the Friday
after Thanksgiving.

I was up at 4:30am this morning. I don't know if it was last night's
meal of a spicy corn/crab chowder, mahi with shrimp and scallops in a
lemon butter caper sauce, and a couple of Oktoberfest Sam Adam's...or if
it was excitement over this boat...but I had horrible hearturn this
morning. ;-)


Good luck. Are you selling your whaler or building a flotilla?
I'm going to sell the bigger Whaler...and keep the 17' Outrage.

Actually, I told my wife that she could redo the kitchen as soon as the
Whaler sells...so she's been telling anybody who will listen that it's for
sale. She has me sending out 4 emails next week to people who already
expressed to her that they might be interested in it.

With the incentive that I offered her, while I'm fishing on the new boat,
she'll be working hard to sell the old one. I have my own live-in
broker...but this broker charges a 110% commission.

I second the congratulations on the new boat and wish you all the success in the
world with it!

Parkers are nice, for fishing, but they are most definitely *not* a family boat.
The Grady's are nicely outfitted for family getaways *and* for fishing.

Have a good one.


Depends on the family. My Parker has comfy bunks for two adults or three
small kids, with thick, well-made cushions, a flush toilet, a freshwater
sink, a refrigerator and a store. It's got more room in the cabin than
the same-sized Grady, but there is no question the Grady is more plush.

How often would you let just the three pre-teens take the boat out for a
weekend? Or, how often would you leave the pre-teens in a tent on the beach
while you and your bride occupied the thick-cushioned, comfy bunks?
--
John H

"It's *not* a baby kicking, bride of mine, it's just a fetus!"

A Famous Hypocrite