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acoolway2sayit November 15th 05 05:02 AM

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This was a real lesson in Humanity for me tonight. Look at JimH's
postings and the sensless entertainment he seems to feel of okay. I
felt assaulted and hit him with a stern message and you see where the
real man took it. It's pretty sad to see this. I was and am not
SPAMMING. I have two boats and purchased some product in SC about 6
months ago. Finally, I got around to using it and put a post on the
boating sites in which I am a silent member. I see idiots on these
sites all the time, sharing recipies, for God's sake. But I never
attach them. He started it and I lashed out and see where it landed.
HOW SICK!


Skipper November 15th 05 07:58 AM

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acoolway2sayit wrote:

This was a real lesson in Humanity for me tonight. Look at JimH's
postings and the sensless entertainment he seems to feel of okay. I
felt assaulted and hit him with a stern message and you see where the
real man took it. It's pretty sad to see this. I was and am not
SPAMMING.


You issues that same shilling ad to EVERY usenet NG. That in fact is
spam, lady.

I have two boats and purchased some product in SC about 6
months ago. Finally, I got around to using it and put a post on the
boating sites in which I am a silent member.


And that is what is commonly known simply as BS. You spammed many NGs in
violation of their charters, plain and simple.

I see idiots on these sites all the time, sharing recipies, for God's sake.
But I never attach them. He started it and I lashed out and see where it
landed. HOW SICK!


I looked for any boating content in your entire posting history to
Usenet. Unfortunately, none could be found. On the other hand, I found
years of on-topic contributions from the "idiots" as you call them.
Perhaps we do have you wrongly identified. Can you point us to your
useful boating contributions? We have no problem seeing your history of
spam.

--
Skipper

Skipper November 15th 05 08:17 AM

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wrote:

"My name is Lynn and you and go @%*# Yourself! I just spent all weekend
using something that help me. Assholes like you make this country of
FREE Speech just wonderful! Hope your boat stays ungly! Mine looks
great! BTW, do get your kicks by showing your ass and your lack of
knowledge?"


Do you support SPAM and obscene language in this NG Chuck?


Nope.


Why would you descend to her level, however?


You made a bigger deal than was maybe required about the obvious SPAM,
and she reacted badly. (I don't find her commercial for a boating
related product any more or less ridiculous than the anti-semitic
Psuedo JC ((as in Julia Child, the recipe gal)) who has been posting
recipes all day or Harry's non-stop citation of the latest bad poll
numbers for GWB).


Oh, Chucky, you still seem ticked that someone exposed some needed
truths about your business ethics and honesty. Do you think those
revelations had any connection to your descriptions of fellow NG
contributors or your reluctance to issue long overdue apologies? No, a
guess that wasn't it.

--
Skipper

Skipper November 15th 05 11:24 AM

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Harry Krause wrote:

This is a newsgroup full of people just waiting - hoping - they'll be
offended. Really.


Not really, Krause. This and several other NGs just wish your kind would
go away.

--
Skipper

*JimH* November 15th 05 03:18 PM

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"acoolway2sayit" wrote in message
oups.com...
This was a real lesson in Humanity for me tonight. Look at JimH's
postings and the sensless entertainment he seems to feel of okay. I
felt assaulted and hit him with a stern message and you see where the
real man took it. It's pretty sad to see this. I was and am not
SPAMMING. I have two boats and purchased some product in SC about 6
months ago. Finally, I got around to using it and put a post on the
boating sites in which I am a silent member. I see idiots on these
sites all the time, sharing recipies, for God's sake. But I never
attach them. He started it and I lashed out and see where it landed.
HOW SICK!


Your entire contribution to the NG's, all SPAM.

http://tinyurl.com/9lkpe

Now get lost.



[email protected] November 15th 05 03:27 PM

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acoolway2sayit wrote:
This was a real lesson in Humanity for me tonight. Look at JimH's
postings and the sensless entertainment he seems to feel of okay. I
felt assaulted and hit him with a stern message and you see where the
real man took it. It's pretty sad to see this. I was and am not
SPAMMING. I have two boats and purchased some product in SC about 6
months ago. Finally, I got around to using it and put a post on the
boating sites in which I am a silent member. I see idiots on these
sites all the time, sharing recipies, for God's sake. But I never
attach them. He started it and I lashed out and see where it landed.
HOW SICK!


You might be interested to know how your miracle product likely works.
It's what some of my unscrupulous competitiors used to call "cheating"
the finish, back in the days when I was in the used car business. When
I got a pretty decent old car that was
mostly suffering from a case of the faded-paing uglies, I'd send it out
to Maaco and for $400 or so get a medium quality paint job. Other guys
would take a mixture of carnuba and kerosene, (lots of kerosene), and
"cheat the finish". When they were done, their cars would look almost
as good as the cars I sent out for paint, and if they sold them quickly
enough they would continue looking pretty good until about halfway to
the point where the first monthly payment was due............

You put some temporary shine on a wasted old finish by covering it with
a petroleum based product. It worked. It won't last. Maintaining that
psudeo "finish" would soon be more work and eventually cost more money
than just simply painting the boat.

Word to the wise: rec.boats is a tough neighborhood where a lot of
psychological bullies and misfit nerds hang out. Should you ever dare
express an opinion on any subject here, expect to be treated badly by
one group or another. Expect to be flamed for posting "off-topic" by a
group that includes members reduced to copying paragraphs from
Steinbeck or Hemmingway books in order to have anything remotely
related to boating to post here, and spends many hours a day immersed
in flame wars and trying to start even more.
Some members of this group will scorch you for posting "off topic", in
a week where they have launched 15-30 off-topic threads of their own
design. Yes it sounds ridiculous, but stick around- seeing is
believing.

It would be good idea to hang out here a while and learn the various
"personalities" if you think you want to post to rec boats. (For
instance, swearing at JimH was just about as politically wrong a move
as you could have made.) Odds are, if you do hang out here for a while
and learn the various personalities, you won't bother to post and
you'll move on to a less ridiculous, less explosive venue.

Good luck with rec.boats, and let us know when the shine starts to get
sticky, faded, and blotchy on that old boat. :-)


[email protected] November 15th 05 03:30 PM

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Harry Krause wrote:

This is a newsgroup full of people just waiting - hoping - they'll be
offended. Really.



And they're seldom disappointed.
Getting offended while reviewing rec.boats is a predictable as getting
wet when falling overboard.


[email protected] November 15th 05 03:49 PM

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Skipper wrote:
wrote:

"My name is Lynn and you and go @%*# Yourself! I just spent all weekend
using something that help me. Assholes like you make this country of
FREE Speech just wonderful! Hope your boat stays ungly! Mine looks
great! BTW, do get your kicks by showing your ass and your lack of
knowledge?"


Do you support SPAM and obscene language in this NG Chuck?


Nope.


Why would you descend to her level, however?


You made a bigger deal than was maybe required about the obvious SPAM,
and she reacted badly. (I don't find her commercial for a boating
related product any more or less ridiculous than the anti-semitic
Psuedo JC ((as in Julia Child, the recipe gal)) who has been posting
recipes all day or Harry's non-stop citation of the latest bad poll
numbers for GWB).


Oh, Chucky, you still seem ticked that someone exposed some needed
truths about your business ethics and honesty. Do you think those
revelations had any connection to your descriptions of fellow NG
contributors or your reluctance to issue long overdue apologies? No, a
guess that wasn't it.

--
Skipper



Why would I be upset?

Very few people in the NG have ever met me, and maybe 18-24 months
after you did you posted the following opinion (from April,
2002)........

Quote:
We all make mistakes. I believe her wordy and somewhat insulting debate

with Chuck Gould was nothing more than that, a small personal
miscalculation. I've met Mr. Gould and have had business dealings with
him. You would look long and hard to find a more honest and
knowledgeable broker. His boating views *are* worthy of note.

End Quote:

Even though I was no longer working as a broker when you posted this, I
thought the comment that one would have to "look long and hard to find
a more honest and knowledgeable broker" was reasonably complimentary.
No reason to be upset. You won't find anybody who has personally dealt
with me to refute that sentiment, except for maybe some lame nerd
someplace who now claims his own statement was a lie.....not because it
wasn't true, but because it doesn't fit his new agenda. If he is so
fast and loose with the truth that his version of truth changes with
the pages on the calendar, nobody will pay him any attention. Besides,
he now claims he was somehow treated dishonestly in a boat deal- when
ne *never bought a boat*! That's pretty tough to do. :-)

What's on the agenda for today? More of Mrs. Psuedo's holiday recipes?
A few more pages copied from Steinbeck to establish your "boating"
credentials? I can hardly wait....


[email protected] November 15th 05 04:35 PM

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Harry Krause wrote:
wrote:
Skipper wrote:
wrote:

"My name is Lynn and you and go @%*# Yourself! I just spent all weekend
using something that help me. Assholes like you make this country of
FREE Speech just wonderful! Hope your boat stays ungly! Mine looks
great! BTW, do get your kicks by showing your ass and your lack of
knowledge?"
Do you support SPAM and obscene language in this NG Chuck?
Nope.
Why would you descend to her level, however?
You made a bigger deal than was maybe required about the obvious SPAM,
and she reacted badly. (I don't find her commercial for a boating
related product any more or less ridiculous than the anti-semitic
Psuedo JC ((as in Julia Child, the recipe gal)) who has been posting
recipes all day or Harry's non-stop citation of the latest bad poll
numbers for GWB).
Oh, Chucky, you still seem ticked that someone exposed some needed
truths about your business ethics and honesty. Do you think those
revelations had any connection to your descriptions of fellow NG
contributors or your reluctance to issue long overdue apologies? No, a
guess that wasn't it.

--
Skipper



Why would I be upset?

Very few people in the NG have ever met me, and maybe 18-24 months
after you did you posted the following opinion (from April,
2002)........

Quote:
We all make mistakes. I believe her wordy and somewhat insulting debate

with Chuck Gould was nothing more than that, a small personal
miscalculation. I've met Mr. Gould and have had business dealings with
him. You would look long and hard to find a more honest and
knowledgeable broker. His boating views *are* worthy of note.

End Quote:

Even though I was no longer working as a broker when you posted this, I
thought the comment that one would have to "look long and hard to find
a more honest and knowledgeable broker" was reasonably complimentary.
No reason to be upset. You won't find anybody who has personally dealt
with me to refute that sentiment, except for maybe some lame nerd
someplace who now claims his own statement was a lie.....not because it
wasn't true, but because it doesn't fit his new agenda. If he is so
fast and loose with the truth that his version of truth changes with
the pages on the calendar, nobody will pay him any attention. Besides,
he now claims he was somehow treated dishonestly in a boat deal- when
ne *never bought a boat*! That's pretty tough to do. :-)

What's on the agenda for today? More of Mrs. Psuedo's holiday recipes?
A few more pages copied from Steinbeck to establish your "boating"
credentials? I can hardly wait....



I don't think Skipper ever owned even that 22' Crappyliner. When he
visited you, did you get the impressed he actually knew anything about
boats?


To be fair, Skipper did indeed own that 22-footer. You might recall the
incident where somebody surfing the web came across an advertisement
for a 22-foot boat for sale in Derby, KS that matched the description
that Skipper had shared with the NG. When asked, Skipper admitted that
he was selling his boat (had something to do with a case of bad
knees....on Skipper, not under the deck.......and low expectations for
being able to boat again, if I recall correctly, but that has been
several years ago....).

My foggy recollection of Skipper's boating knowledge seems to be that
he was very well read on the subject but lacked practical experience.
You could see how little tidbits of
one school of thought and those of another would get jumbled up into a
weird third (pretty unworkable) compromise......the sort of thing that
sets one off on a multi-year quest for the "perfect" boat, all the
while still unsure, (he claims) even whether he wants to go with power
or sail. Given the oportunity, (hard to find in KS), Dave might have
been able to vet the confilicting theories with some actual experience.

My impression is that Skipper has gone charter fishing (on boats owned
by others) down in the Gulf of California a few times or more. You may
recall a post where somebody found a photo of Dave Mann on a charter
boat operator's web site. It is from these experiences that he claims
extensive expertise regarding boating in the Sea of Cortez.

I doubt the 22-footer ever saw any sal****er, stories of braving 20-30
foot breaking waves down in Mexico with the little runabout
notwithstanding. In the latest version of the truth, I believe he now
claims he braved that "Torito" on a sailboat. Confuses heck out of me-
I can't figure out where you'd mount the mast on that runabout he used
to own, or why one would carry a collection of portable gas cans to
extend the range of a sailing vessel; and he previously insisted he
survived that storm in his Bayliner......oh well.


John H. November 15th 05 04:39 PM

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On 15 Nov 2005 07:30:56 -0800, wrote:


Harry Krause wrote:

This is a newsgroup full of people just waiting - hoping - they'll be
offended. Really.



And they're seldom disappointed.
Getting offended while reviewing rec.boats is a predictable as getting
wet when falling overboard.


Not at all true. Getting offended is dependant on the feelings one has for the
offender. I can think of nothing Kevin could say in this group that would make
me feel 'offended'. The same is true of Harry.

There must be, in my opinion, a measure of respect for the offender in order for
one to feel offended. If jps calls me a 'stupid, ****ing asshole', I will
chuckle, but sure as hell not 'feel offended'.

--
John H.

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
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