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An addition to the "check is in the mail" routine
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Bush Adviser Says Iraq Weapons Data `Wrong,' Not Manipulated Nov. 13 (Bloomberg) -- The Bush administration had no intention of misleading the public even though pre-war intelligence about Iraq's possession of weapons of mass destruction was ``wrong,'' Stephen Hadley, National Security Advisor, told the Cable News Network. ``This was a collective intelligence judgment. It was relied on by the prior administration and other world leaders, the Congress, the president of the United States,'' Hadley said. ``Turns out we were wrong.'' Hadley said that allegations that the president tried to manipulate the information to build a case for war ``are flat wrong.'' -- Yeah, right. Sure. The hard core bush supporters will believe Hadley because they have to... I guess all these folks mislead us also: "Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction .... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..." - Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003 "I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security." - Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002 "One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line." - President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998 "If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program." - President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998 "We must stop Saddam from ever again jeopardizing the stability and security of his neighbors with weapons of mass destruction." - Madeline Albright, Feb 1, 1998 "He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983." - Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998 "[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." Letter to President Clinton. - (D) Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, others, Oct. 9, 1998 "Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." - Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998 "Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies." - Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999 "We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them." - Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002 "We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country." - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 "Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 "We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." - Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002 "The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..." - Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002 "There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction." - Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002 "In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members .... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons." - Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002 "We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction." - Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002 |
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An addition to the "check is in the mail" routine
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... *JimH* wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Bush Adviser Says Iraq Weapons Data `Wrong,' Not Manipulated Nov. 13 (Bloomberg) -- The Bush administration had no intention of misleading the public even though pre-war intelligence about Iraq's possession of weapons of mass destruction was ``wrong,'' Stephen Hadley, National Security Advisor, told the Cable News Network. ``This was a collective intelligence judgment. It was relied on by the prior administration and other world leaders, the Congress, the president of the United States,'' Hadley said. ``Turns out we were wrong.'' Hadley said that allegations that the president tried to manipulate the information to build a case for war ``are flat wrong.'' -- Yeah, right. Sure. The hard core bush supporters will believe Hadley because they have to... I guess all these folks mislead us also: "Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..." - Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003 It doesn't matter. Sure it does. I matters a lot. They didn't push the button that started the war, Sure they did...when they gave him the authority to go to war. and, of course, none of them had the intel Bush had. That's already been revealed. I did not see that. Could you repost it? |
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An addition to the "check is in the mail" routine
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... *JimH* wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... *JimH* wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Bush Adviser Says Iraq Weapons Data `Wrong,' Not Manipulated Nov. 13 (Bloomberg) -- The Bush administration had no intention of misleading the public even though pre-war intelligence about Iraq's possession of weapons of mass destruction was ``wrong,'' Stephen Hadley, National Security Advisor, told the Cable News Network. ``This was a collective intelligence judgment. It was relied on by the prior administration and other world leaders, the Congress, the president of the United States,'' Hadley said. ``Turns out we were wrong.'' Hadley said that allegations that the president tried to manipulate the information to build a case for war ``are flat wrong.'' -- Yeah, right. Sure. The hard core bush supporters will believe Hadley because they have to... I guess all these folks mislead us also: "Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..." - Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003 It doesn't matter. Sure it does. I matters a lot. They didn't push the button that started the war, Sure they did...when they gave him the authority to go to war. and, of course, none of them had the intel Bush had. That's already been revealed. I did not see that. Could you repost it? I dunno. I think I posted it yesterday or Friday. I'll see if I saved it. -- "W" - Symbol for the Worst President...Ever. He posted an article that said they did not have the same intel. He did not provide proof. |
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An addition to the "check is in the mail" routine
Bill McKee wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... *JimH* wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... *JimH* wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Bush Adviser Says Iraq Weapons Data `Wrong,' Not Manipulated Nov. 13 (Bloomberg) -- The Bush administration had no intention of misleading the public even though pre-war intelligence about Iraq's possession of weapons of mass destruction was ``wrong,'' Stephen Hadley, National Security Advisor, told the Cable News Network. ``This was a collective intelligence judgment. It was relied on by the prior administration and other world leaders, the Congress, the president of the United States,'' Hadley said. ``Turns out we were wrong.'' Hadley said that allegations that the president tried to manipulate the information to build a case for war ``are flat wrong.'' -- Yeah, right. Sure. The hard core bush supporters will believe Hadley because they have to... I guess all these folks mislead us also: "Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..." - Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003 It doesn't matter. Sure it does. I matters a lot. They didn't push the button that started the war, Sure they did...when they gave him the authority to go to war. and, of course, none of them had the intel Bush had. That's already been revealed. I did not see that. Could you repost it? I dunno. I think I posted it yesterday or Friday. I'll see if I saved it. -- "W" - Symbol for the Worst President...Ever. He posted an article that said they did not have the same intel. He did not provide proof. It's widely known, has been hashed out in the news over and over. I even watched a debate in FOX, of all places, and in the end, both the liberal and the conservative agreed that indeed, no one in the senate or congress had the same intel as Bush. None. |
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An addition to the "check is in the mail" routine
*JimH* wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... *JimH* wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Bush Adviser Says Iraq Weapons Data `Wrong,' Not Manipulated Nov. 13 (Bloomberg) -- The Bush administration had no intention of misleading the public even though pre-war intelligence about Iraq's possession of weapons of mass destruction was ``wrong,'' Stephen Hadley, National Security Advisor, told the Cable News Network. ``This was a collective intelligence judgment. It was relied on by the prior administration and other world leaders, the Congress, the president of the United States,'' Hadley said. ``Turns out we were wrong.'' Hadley said that allegations that the president tried to manipulate the information to build a case for war ``are flat wrong.'' -- Yeah, right. Sure. The hard core bush supporters will believe Hadley because they have to... I guess all these folks mislead us also: "Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..." - Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003 It doesn't matter. Sure it does. I matters a lot. They didn't push the button that started the war, Sure they did...when they gave him the authority to go to war. and, of course, none of them had the intel Bush had. That's already been revealed. I did not see that. Could you repost it? 'Wash Post' Story Rejects Bush Claims on Pre-War Intel By E&P Staff Published: November 12, 2005 11:00 AM ET NEW YORK Washington Post reporters Dana Milbank and Walter Pincus offered today a front-page reply to President Bush's claims on Friday that Democrats in Congress, now critical of the Iraq war, saw the same pre-war intelligence that the White House did. "Bush and his aides had access to much more voluminous intelligence information than did lawmakers, who were dependent on the administration to provide the material," the pair write. They also point to Bush's claim that a congressonal commissions had cleared the White House of manipulation, noting none were authorized "to determine whether the administration exaggerated or distorted those conclusions." The only committee investigating the matter in Congress, the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, has not been slow to press its inquiry into whether officials mischaracterized intelligence by omitting caveats and dissenting opinions. Bush, in Pennsylvania yesterday, asserted that "more than 100 Democrats in the House and the Senate, who had access to the same intelligence, voted to support removing Saddam Hussein from power." But Pincus and Milbank write: "Bush does not share his most sensitive intelligence, such as the President's Daily Brief, with lawmakers. Also, the National Intelligence Estimate summarizing the intelligence community's views about the threat from Iraq was given to Congress just days before the vote to authorize the use of force in that country. "In addition, there were doubts within the intelligence community not included in the NIE. And even the doubts expressed in the NIE could not be used publicly by members of Congress because the classified information had not been cleared for release. For example, the NIE view that Hussein would not use weapons of mass destruction against the United States or turn them over to terrorists unless backed into a corner was cleared for public use only a day before the Senate vote." |
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An addition to the "check is in the mail" routine
Bill McKee wrote: He posted an article that said they did not have the same intel. He did not provide proof. Do you ever tire of being dumb?: 'Wash Post' Story Rejects Bush Claims on Pre-War Intel By E&P Staff Published: November 12, 2005 11:00 AM ET NEW YORK Washington Post reporters Dana Milbank and Walter Pincus offered today a front-page reply to President Bush's claims on Friday that Democrats in Congress, now critical of the Iraq war, saw the same pre-war intelligence that the White House did. "Bush and his aides had access to much more voluminous intelligence information than did lawmakers, who were dependent on the administration to provide the material," the pair write. They also point to Bush's claim that a congressonal commissions had cleared the White House of manipulation, noting none were authorized "to determine whether the administration exaggerated or distorted those conclusions." The only committee investigating the matter in Congress, the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, has not been slow to press its inquiry into whether officials mischaracterized intelligence by omitting caveats and dissenting opinions. Bush, in Pennsylvania yesterday, asserted that "more than 100 Democrats in the House and the Senate, who had access to the same intelligence, voted to support removing Saddam Hussein from power." But Pincus and Milbank write: "Bush does not share his most sensitive intelligence, such as the President's Daily Brief, with lawmakers. Also, the National Intelligence Estimate summarizing the intelligence community's views about the threat from Iraq was given to Congress just days before the vote to authorize the use of force in that country. "In addition, there were doubts within the intelligence community not included in the NIE. And even the doubts expressed in the NIE could not be used publicly by members of Congress because the classified information had not been cleared for release. For example, the NIE view that Hussein would not use weapons of mass destruction against the United States or turn them over to terrorists unless backed into a corner was cleared for public use only a day before the Senate vote." |
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An addition to the "check is in the mail" routine
wrote in message oups.com... Bill McKee wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... *JimH* wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... *JimH* wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Bush Adviser Says Iraq Weapons Data `Wrong,' Not Manipulated Nov. 13 (Bloomberg) -- The Bush administration had no intention of misleading the public even though pre-war intelligence about Iraq's possession of weapons of mass destruction was ``wrong,'' Stephen Hadley, National Security Advisor, told the Cable News Network. ``This was a collective intelligence judgment. It was relied on by the prior administration and other world leaders, the Congress, the president of the United States,'' Hadley said. ``Turns out we were wrong.'' Hadley said that allegations that the president tried to manipulate the information to build a case for war ``are flat wrong.'' -- Yeah, right. Sure. The hard core bush supporters will believe Hadley because they have to... I guess all these folks mislead us also: "Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..." - Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003 It doesn't matter. Sure it does. I matters a lot. They didn't push the button that started the war, Sure they did...when they gave him the authority to go to war. and, of course, none of them had the intel Bush had. That's already been revealed. I did not see that. Could you repost it? I dunno. I think I posted it yesterday or Friday. I'll see if I saved it. -- "W" - Symbol for the Worst President...Ever. He posted an article that said they did not have the same intel. He did not provide proof. It's widely known, has been hashed out in the news over and over. I even watched a debate in FOX, of all places, and in the end, both the liberal and the conservative agreed that indeed, no one in the senate or congress had the same intel as Bush. None. It is? And Harry posted the proof? He posted a copyright ripoff article proposing the difference in intel. He did not post proof. |
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