Harry Krause
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Remind me again where I said this passage is about teaching a man to
fish.


If you can reply without name calling it would truly be a miracle.
You didn't state that. However, after Bert said, "If Jesus had been a
liberal he would have passed out fish instead of teaching people to
fish" and I cited the Bible story where Jesus passed out fish to 5,000
people (without asking any of them to learn to fish), you offered your
passage in rebuttal. That would seem, by extension, to be supporting
Bert's statement that Jesus didn't pass out food to hungry people and
instead told them to go learn to fish.
Nope. I simply asked jps how he would interpret the passage I quoted.
His
interpretation was spot on and provided support to my initial point.
Still confused, sorry.
Nope. I am not. It seems you are though, so I will say it again one more
time.


I simply asked jps how he would interpret the passage I quoted. His
interpretation was spot on and provided support to my initial point.


I don't have any idea whether you are a Christian or not, and it
doesn't really matter;
You are correct.


do you agree or disagree that according to the 14th Chapter of Matthew
Jesus passed out free fish to 5000 hungry people?=


I believe that the miracle occured.


Do you agree or disagree with Bert's statement that Jesus would be more
likely to tell a hungry person to go and learn to fish, and perhaps
even offer free fishing lessons, than to alleviate the immediate
hunger?


I did not read where Bert said Jesus would just tell someone to go and learn
to fish if they were hungry. Could you point that particular quote out for
me Chuck?


Certainly:


"He wasn't a raging liberal. If he was then he have been giving out
fish
instead of teaching people to fish to feed themselves."


A group I am loosely associated with helped feed hot chili and chicken
soup to over 200 homeless and people yesterday in Occidental Park, near
Pioneer Square. In about half an hour, I will be going back downtown to
work a breakfast in the basement of an old church, where something
around another 200 people will come in for a hot, sit-down meal.


And that is a great thing you are doing. When are you moving on to the next
step........ teaching these folks so they can get a job and provide food for
themselves.


We
used to do the Saturday feedings at another park just a few blocks
away, but frankly the "Christians" ran us out.
What does a *Christian* look like Chuck?


Like all sorts of things. You can't tell a Christian by looking.
However, some Christians are more easily identified by particular
behaviors.


One guy who was sort of
afraid, I guess, to set foot in the park filled with homeless people
would stand across the street and yell about hell-fire and damnation on
a bullhorn. He was bent on convincing these folks that the next bad
decision they made was going to send them straight to hell, where they
would burn and suffer for eternity. Another woman who couldn't sing to
save her life would stand in the park and bellow "Amazing Grace", "The
Old Rugged Cross", and etc- also through a bullhorn. I suspect the
folks with the bullhorns threatening eternal suffering in hell or
providing some contemporary suffering through really awful and
ridiculously loud singing would probably inspire people to go learn to
fish. :-)
Those folks are better described as lunatics Chuck. Yes, I suppost they
might be some sort of Christians, but their behavior puts them on the
lunatic fringe.


BTW: Why do you need to embelish the story? I doubt what you told was
anything close to accurate.


Not embellished a bit. And you don't have to look far to find bizarre
characters doing strange things in the name of religion. Are you
telling me you don't have "street preachers" in your little suburb in
Ohio? You probably don't- but next time you're off in an actual city
someplace and not hanging out in a well-policed shopping mall keep an
eye peeled for street preachers. I've never been to a big city where
there *aren't* street preachers. Those two bull horn shouters were on
hand for several Saturdays in a row. No embellishment required.

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I'll be sure to bring that up the next time someone in our little area some sort of shopping center: it'll attract religious zealots, and that is reason enough to turn down any shopping center!

Seriously, there are some Jesus-freaks with powered megaphones nearly
every day at the park at Connecticut and K in downtown DC, and some of
these droolers sometimes wander across the street to the sidewalk of a
building in which we have a long-time client. I've managed toresist the
temptation to pour water on them from an upper floor.



Don't let the Bullhorns bother you Harry, it's been going on now for
better than 250 years.

You ought to appreciate them Harry, seeing you are such a defender of
free speech, that is unless that speech is something you seemingly
don't agree with. "Bullhorning" is one thing that actually helped make
the United States.

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