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Typical, Christian zealots need to rule by fear, because there are no
facts!


Pat Robertson warns Pa. town of disaster

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

VIRGINIA BEACH, Va. -- Religious broadcaster Pat Robertson warned
residents of a rural Pennsylvania town Thursday that disaster may
strike there because they "voted God out of your city" by ousting
school board members who favored teaching intelligent design.

Robertson takes the term "loose cannon" to totally new levels. :-)

But, Robertson is right the issue. Either you acknowlege God or you don't.
If you don't acknowledge God then why are you asking Him for things?



It is pretty funny to see the claim about ruling by fear.........that is
straight out of the liebral playbook.

What an idiot!!!! Christians ruled by fear LONG before there were
liberals!!! You right wing lunatics adopted any and all of their ideals.

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says...

What an idiot!!!! Christians ruled by fear LONG before there were
liberals!!! You right wing lunatics adopted any and all of their ideals.

All Abrahamic religions include the hairy thunderer who would smote
folks for any number of reasons.

While I don't believe Jesus was the first true liberal, he certainly was
a raging liberal.

The fact that "conservatives" think he would agree with their politics
is beyond laughable, it's sad.

jps

"jps" wrote in message
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In article .com,
says...

What an idiot!!!! Christians ruled by fear LONG before there were
liberals!!! You right wing lunatics adopted any and all of their ideals.

All Abrahamic religions include the hairy thunderer who would smote
folks for any number of reasons.

While I don't believe Jesus was the first true liberal, he certainly was
a raging liberal.

A South Park episode portrayed him as a hippy. That's truth enough for me.

"jps" wrote in message
...
In article .com,
says...

What an idiot!!!! Christians ruled by fear LONG before there were
liberals!!! You right wing lunatics adopted any and all of their ideals.

All Abrahamic religions include the hairy thunderer who would smote
folks for any number of reasons.

There are consequences.

While I don't believe Jesus was the first true liberal, he certainly was
a raging liberal.

He wasn't a raging liberal. If he was then he have been giving out fish
instead of teaching people to fish to feed themselves.

The fact that "conservatives" think he would agree with their politics
is beyond laughable, it's sad.

The fact that "liberals" think He would agree with their politics is beyond
laughable, it's sad.

Bert Robbins wrote:
"jps" wrote in message
...
In article .com,
says...

What an idiot!!!! Christians ruled by fear LONG before there were
liberals!!! You right wing lunatics adopted any and all of their ideals.

All Abrahamic religions include the hairy thunderer who would smote
folks for any number of reasons.

There are consequences.

While I don't believe Jesus was the first true liberal, he certainly was
a raging liberal.

He wasn't a raging liberal. If he was then he have been giving out fish
instead of teaching people to fish to feed themselves.

Gotcha!

Matthew, Chapter 14

14:15 And when it was evening, his disciples came to him, saying, This
is a desert place, and the time is now past; send the multitude away,
that they may go into the villages, and buy themselves victuals.

14:16 But Jesus said unto them, They need not depart; give ye them to
eat.

14:17 And they say unto him, We have here but five loaves, and two
fishes.

14:18 He said, Bring them hither to me.

14:19 And he commanded the multitude to sit down on the grass, and took
the five loaves, and the two fishes, and looking up to heaven, he
blessed, and brake, and gave the loaves to [his] disciples, and the
disciples to the multitude.

14:20 And they did all eat, and were filled: and they took up of the
fragments that remained twelve baskets full.

14:21 And they that had eaten were about five thousand men, beside
women and children.

14:22 And straightway Jesus constrained his disciples to get into a
ship, and to go before him unto the other side, while he sent the
multitudes away.


Do the conservatives have a special version of the story? One where the
disciples come to Jesus saying "the people are hungry" and he replies,
"Go then, and teach them how to fish!"? :-)

Looks like he not only "handed out fish", but the bread course as well.
:-)

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Bert Robbins wrote:
"jps" wrote in message
...
In article .com,
says...

What an idiot!!!! Christians ruled by fear LONG before there were
liberals!!! You right wing lunatics adopted any and all of their
ideals.

All Abrahamic religions include the hairy thunderer who would smote
folks for any number of reasons.

There are consequences.

While I don't believe Jesus was the first true liberal, he certainly
was
a raging liberal.

He wasn't a raging liberal. If he was then he have been giving out fish
instead of teaching people to fish to feed themselves.

Gotcha!

Matthew, Chapter 14

14:15 And when it was evening, his disciples came to him, saying, This
is a desert place, and the time is now past; send the multitude away,
that they may go into the villages, and buy themselves victuals.

14:16 But Jesus said unto them, They need not depart; give ye them to
eat.

14:17 And they say unto him, We have here but five loaves, and two
fishes.

14:18 He said, Bring them hither to me.

14:19 And he commanded the multitude to sit down on the grass, and took
the five loaves, and the two fishes, and looking up to heaven, he
blessed, and brake, and gave the loaves to [his] disciples, and the
disciples to the multitude.

14:20 And they did all eat, and were filled: and they took up of the
fragments that remained twelve baskets full.

14:21 And they that had eaten were about five thousand men, beside
women and children.

14:22 And straightway Jesus constrained his disciples to get into a
ship, and to go before him unto the other side, while he sent the
multitudes away.


Do the conservatives have a special version of the story? One where the
disciples come to Jesus saying "the people are hungry" and he replies,
"Go then, and teach them how to fish!"? :-)

Looks like he not only "handed out fish", but the bread course as well.
:-)


Hell Chuck, one can quote passages from the Bible to make a case for either
side.

Give me a break.

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Bert Robbins wrote:

He wasn't a raging liberal. If he was then he have been giving out fish
instead of teaching people to fish to feed themselves.

Gotcha!

Matthew, Chapter 14

14:15 And when it was evening, his disciples came to him, saying, This
is a desert place, and the time is now past; send the multitude away,
that they may go into the villages, and buy themselves victuals.

14:16 But Jesus said unto them, They need not depart; give ye them to
eat.

14:17 And they say unto him, We have here but five loaves, and two
fishes.

14:18 He said, Bring them hither to me.

14:19 And he commanded the multitude to sit down on the grass, and took
the five loaves, and the two fishes, and looking up to heaven, he
blessed, and brake, and gave the loaves to [his] disciples, and the
disciples to the multitude.

14:20 And they did all eat, and were filled: and they took up of the
fragments that remained twelve baskets full.

14:21 And they that had eaten were about five thousand men, beside
women and children.

14:22 And straightway Jesus constrained his disciples to get into a
ship, and to go before him unto the other side, while he sent the
multitudes away.


Do the conservatives have a special version of the story? One where the
disciples come to Jesus saying "the people are hungry" and he replies,
"Go then, and teach them how to fish!"? :-)

Looks like he not only "handed out fish", but the bread course as well.
:-)


Hell Chuck, one can quote passages from the Bible to make a case for either
side.

Give us the quote then. I don't think your gun has any bullets in it.

Go ahead, make my day.

jps

On 11 Nov 2005 15:23:35 -0800, wrote:


Bert Robbins wrote:
"jps" wrote in message
...
In article .com,
says...

What an idiot!!!! Christians ruled by fear LONG before there were
liberals!!! You right wing lunatics adopted any and all of their ideals.

All Abrahamic religions include the hairy thunderer who would smote
folks for any number of reasons.

There are consequences.

While I don't believe Jesus was the first true liberal, he certainly was
a raging liberal.

He wasn't a raging liberal. If he was then he have been giving out fish
instead of teaching people to fish to feed themselves.

Gotcha!

Matthew, Chapter 14

14:15 And when it was evening, his disciples came to him, saying, This
is a desert place, and the time is now past; send the multitude away,
that they may go into the villages, and buy themselves victuals.

14:16 But Jesus said unto them, They need not depart; give ye them to
eat.

14:17 And they say unto him, We have here but five loaves, and two
fishes.

14:18 He said, Bring them hither to me.

14:19 And he commanded the multitude to sit down on the grass, and took
the five loaves, and the two fishes, and looking up to heaven, he
blessed, and brake, and gave the loaves to [his] disciples, and the
disciples to the multitude.

14:20 And they did all eat, and were filled: and they took up of the
fragments that remained twelve baskets full.

14:21 And they that had eaten were about five thousand men, beside
women and children.

14:22 And straightway Jesus constrained his disciples to get into a
ship, and to go before him unto the other side, while he sent the
multitudes away.


Do the conservatives have a special version of the story? One where the
disciples come to Jesus saying "the people are hungry" and he replies,
"Go then, and teach them how to fish!"? :-)

Looks like he not only "handed out fish", but the bread course as well.
:-)

You missed the point: He didn't take up a collection from the disciples to pay
for the fish!

--
John H.

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

In article , PocoLoco415
@hotmail.com says...
On 11 Nov 2005 15:23:35 -0800, wrote:


Bert Robbins wrote:
"jps" wrote in message
...
In article .com,
says...

What an idiot!!!! Christians ruled by fear LONG before there were
liberals!!! You right wing lunatics adopted any and all of their ideals.

All Abrahamic religions include the hairy thunderer who would smote
folks for any number of reasons.

There are consequences.

While I don't believe Jesus was the first true liberal, he certainly was
a raging liberal.

He wasn't a raging liberal. If he was then he have been giving out fish
instead of teaching people to fish to feed themselves.

Gotcha!

Matthew, Chapter 14

14:15 And when it was evening, his disciples came to him, saying, This
is a desert place, and the time is now past; send the multitude away,
that they may go into the villages, and buy themselves victuals.

14:16 But Jesus said unto them, They need not depart; give ye them to
eat.

14:17 And they say unto him, We have here but five loaves, and two
fishes.

14:18 He said, Bring them hither to me.

14:19 And he commanded the multitude to sit down on the grass, and took
the five loaves, and the two fishes, and looking up to heaven, he
blessed, and brake, and gave the loaves to [his] disciples, and the
disciples to the multitude.

14:20 And they did all eat, and were filled: and they took up of the
fragments that remained twelve baskets full.

14:21 And they that had eaten were about five thousand men, beside
women and children.

14:22 And straightway Jesus constrained his disciples to get into a
ship, and to go before him unto the other side, while he sent the
multitudes away.


Do the conservatives have a special version of the story? One where the
disciples come to Jesus saying "the people are hungry" and he replies,
"Go then, and teach them how to fish!"? :-)

Looks like he not only "handed out fish", but the bread course as well.
:-)

You missed the point: He didn't take up a collection from the disciples to pay
for the fish!

That's the point you want to make, post facto.

The point was Jesus wasn't the one to who came up with "teach a man to
fish."

Sorta like Bush wanting to change his story every time the previous on
didn't quite pan out.

Jesus was into sharing. I'm sure he would have been into the rich
taking care of the poor and having it happen voluntarily. However, I'm
sure if he didn't see it happening voluntarily, he would not have simply
turned his back on the poor. He would have found some reason the rich
would see reason in redistributing wealth.

"easier for a camel..."

jps

On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 16:20:48 -0800, jps wrote:

In article , PocoLoco415
says...
On 11 Nov 2005 15:23:35 -0800, wrote:


Bert Robbins wrote:
"jps" wrote in message
...
In article .com,
says...

What an idiot!!!! Christians ruled by fear LONG before there were
liberals!!! You right wing lunatics adopted any and all of their ideals.

All Abrahamic religions include the hairy thunderer who would smote
folks for any number of reasons.

There are consequences.

While I don't believe Jesus was the first true liberal, he certainly was
a raging liberal.

He wasn't a raging liberal. If he was then he have been giving out fish
instead of teaching people to fish to feed themselves.

Gotcha!

Matthew, Chapter 14

14:15 And when it was evening, his disciples came to him, saying, This
is a desert place, and the time is now past; send the multitude away,
that they may go into the villages, and buy themselves victuals.

14:16 But Jesus said unto them, They need not depart; give ye them to
eat.

14:17 And they say unto him, We have here but five loaves, and two
fishes.

14:18 He said, Bring them hither to me.

14:19 And he commanded the multitude to sit down on the grass, and took
the five loaves, and the two fishes, and looking up to heaven, he
blessed, and brake, and gave the loaves to [his] disciples, and the
disciples to the multitude.

14:20 And they did all eat, and were filled: and they took up of the
fragments that remained twelve baskets full.

14:21 And they that had eaten were about five thousand men, beside
women and children.

14:22 And straightway Jesus constrained his disciples to get into a
ship, and to go before him unto the other side, while he sent the
multitudes away.


Do the conservatives have a special version of the story? One where the
disciples come to Jesus saying "the people are hungry" and he replies,
"Go then, and teach them how to fish!"? :-)

Looks like he not only "handed out fish", but the bread course as well.
:-)

You missed the point: He didn't take up a collection from the disciples to pay
for the fish!

That's the point you want to make, post facto.

The point was Jesus wasn't the one to who came up with "teach a man to
fish."

Sorta like Bush wanting to change his story every time the previous on
didn't quite pan out.

Jesus was into sharing. I'm sure he would have been into the rich
taking care of the poor and having it happen voluntarily. However, I'm
sure if he didn't see it happening voluntarily, he would not have simply
turned his back on the poor. He would have found some reason the rich
would see reason in redistributing wealth.

"easier for a camel..."

jps

Key word - voluntarily. *If* you attended almost any church, you'd see just how
much is *voluntarily* given to the poor.

--
John H.

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes