Gould,
I don't disagree with your State of the Newsgroup speech, but I remember
when JimH made a similar comment and he was attacked by many, yourself
included.
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Is this a boating newsgroup or an "off topic" newsgroup? Seems there
are more off topic posts than on topic post.


This group used to be primarily about boats. Now it's rarely about
boats, and most of the boaters have skidaddled in search of a more sane
and civil environment.

Imagine the grounds of an asylum. The inmates are let out everyday to
exercise, and in one corner, gathered all around a bench, is a group
that fantasizes they're out on a boat instead of trapped in an asylum.
Once in a while they will even tell tales about their imaginary
bench-boat, or some boat they used to own, or some boat they hope to
buy, and a few of them might actually go boating on a day they're
furloughed from the asylum.

The customary topics of conversation around the bench-boat include how
to save the world through the proper choice of a political candidate,
how the world is going to hell due to the ill-advised choice of a
political candidate, how liberals are all trying to destroy the moral,
social and economic fabric of the United States, how conservatives are
all trying to impose their personally hypocritical moral code and lack
of business ethics on everyone else, and so forth.

The *real* reasons the inmates gather around the bench are because
there is nothing else in life to do, and they are so entangled in
mutually obsessed love-hate relationships that they cannot get through
a day without interacting with the object of their love-hate. Some hang
around the bench all day, waiting for one of the other inmates to say
*anything*, on any subject, so they can immediately lash out with the
crappy personal remark they have been crafting since the day prior.

The happiest guys in the asylum are those who believe this is somehow
the "real world", or at least more real or more important than the
dreadfully dark and dreary isolation of a drafty, solitary cell.

Fact is, darn nearly everybody left here is nuts. Knuts, gnuts, nuts.
Self included.
Anybody searching for a "boating forum" would be nuts to think a bunch
of idiots gathered around a bench and pretending it's a boat is the
best forum they will find. Anybody here who can't figure out there
isn't any boating content left and that the most prolific posters have
even stopped trying to play the "it's about boats" game in our corner
of the asylum's rec. yard is nuts. Anybody here who enjoys and thrives
on the wicked, sick, and twisted
vitriol passing between the inmates and patients on a personal level is
nuts.

I know where there's a pair of bolt cutters hidden under a bush, and a
spot along the fenceline where the guards don't often patrol. If I
wasn't one of the nuts, I'd grab those bolt cutters and get the heck
out of here. It's tough when the meds wear off just enough that you can
realize where you're at- you sort of have to envy the guys who remain
blind to the reality of the situation or even thrive on the collective
illness.

So if you're looking for a good boating forum- forget this one. Twenty
different people will advance 15-20 different names and reasons why
rec.boats is in the toilet, but in the final analysis (and for whatever
reason) it is. Unless you enjoy life in the asylum toilet, get the heck
out before you get caught up in the vortex circling the bowl. :-)

"Dr. Dr. Smithers" wrote:

Gould,
I don't disagree with your State of the Newsgroup speech, but I remember
when JimH made a similar comment and he was attacked by many, yourself
included.

Who or what do you blame for the state of the NG state?

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Skipper

When I first started reading the NG Harry was posting 100 - 150 messages a
day. 75-125 of those messages were telling everyone else they were idiots,
right wing turds or something similar. Whenever Harry takes a vacation,
which is very uncommon, the tone of the NG improves immensely.

Harry has destroyed what was a good group.


"Skipper" wrote in message
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"Dr. Dr. Smithers" wrote:

Gould,
I don't disagree with your State of the Newsgroup speech, but I remember
when JimH made a similar comment and he was attacked by many, yourself
included.

Who or what do you blame for the state of the NG state?

--
Skipper

"Dr. Dr. Smithers" wrote:

When I first started reading the NG Harry was posting 100 - 150 messages a
day. 75-125 of those messages were telling everyone else they were idiots,
right wing turds or something similar. Whenever Harry takes a vacation,
which is very uncommon, the tone of the NG improves immensely.

Harry has destroyed what was a good group.

I came to that same conclusion a while back. What, if anything, can be
done to restore the NG to its once preeminent position?

--
Skipper

Harry is overweight, doesn't look that healthy, his years of inactivity
might take their toll on the old guy. It is obvious his mind is no longer
with us.


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"Dr. Dr. Smithers" wrote:

When I first started reading the NG Harry was posting 100 - 150 messages
a
day. 75-125 of those messages were telling everyone else they were
idiots,
right wing turds or something similar. Whenever Harry takes a vacation,
which is very uncommon, the tone of the NG improves immensely.

Harry has destroyed what was a good group.

I came to that same conclusion a while back. What, if anything, can be
done to restore the NG to its once preeminent position?

--
Skipper

"Dr. Dr. Smithers" wrote:

Harry is overweight, doesn't look that healthy, his years of inactivity
might take their toll on the old guy. It is obvious his mind is no longer
with us.

It's sad really. Having been away from the NG a couple years, his
diminished skills are oh so obvious. Perhaps there is hope for the NG
yet...

--
Skipper

Dr. Dr. Smithers wrote:
When I first started reading the NG Harry was posting 100 - 150 messages a
day. 75-125 of those messages were telling everyone else they were idiots,
right wing turds or something similar. Whenever Harry takes a vacation,
which is very uncommon, the tone of the NG improves immensely.

Harry has destroyed what was a good group.


You've certainly done your share by using 100 different aliases,
including those of people already posting here.
What do you think of Fritz, who never, ever posts anything on topic?
What do you think of JimH, who thought nothing of posting lies, name
calling, vile posts time after time?
What do you think of Herring, who, for weeks, posting nothing but
"Harry, you're a ****ing liar"?

Do you think those above examples have made the newsgroup a better, or
worse place?

I am sorry, I forgot about Kevin, it is Harry and Kevin who have ruined this
NG.

Kevin, no one has come close to the name calling Harry has bestowed upon
this NG, both in intensity and volume.


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Dr. Dr. Smithers wrote:
When I first started reading the NG Harry was posting 100 - 150 messages
a
day. 75-125 of those messages were telling everyone else they were
idiots,
right wing turds or something similar. Whenever Harry takes a vacation,
which is very uncommon, the tone of the NG improves immensely.

Harry has destroyed what was a good group.


You've certainly done your share by using 100 different aliases,
including those of people already posting here.
What do you think of Fritz, who never, ever posts anything on topic?
What do you think of JimH, who thought nothing of posting lies, name
calling, vile posts time after time?
What do you think of Herring, who, for weeks, posting nothing but
"Harry, you're a ****ing liar"?

Do you think those above examples have made the newsgroup a better, or
worse place?

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Dr. Dr. Smithers wrote:
When I first started reading the NG Harry was posting 100 - 150 messages
a
day. 75-125 of those messages were telling everyone else they were
idiots,
right wing turds or something similar. Whenever Harry takes a vacation,
which is very uncommon, the tone of the NG improves immensely.

Harry has destroyed what was a good group.



What do you think of JimH, who thought nothing of posting lies, name
calling, vile posts time after time?

Bull****.

*You* and only *you* are guilty of such charges.

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Dr. Dr. Smithers wrote:
When I first started reading the NG Harry was posting 100 - 150 messages a
day. 75-125 of those messages were telling everyone else they were idiots,
right wing turds or something similar. Whenever Harry takes a vacation,
which is very uncommon, the tone of the NG improves immensely.

Harry has destroyed what was a good group.

What do you think of Herring, who, for weeks, posting nothing but
"Harry, you're a ****ing liar"?

He may well be a very honest and insightful fellow. Is it your posit
that Krause tells the truth?

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Skipper