"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Jeff Rigby wrote:
"DSK" wrote in message
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Perhaps, due to the way the present America was taken by force from
the original inhabitants, war is in the cultural heritage of the us
somewhat seen as a legitimate and effective means to an end, much more
than in europe.
That's an interesting idea, maybe true.


Jeff Rigby wrote:
There was a vacumn here as 80% of the origional indians in the eastern
and south easteren continental US were killed by dieases brought in by
spanish explorers.
???

Do you actually believe this stuff, or do you pick it up on some secret
"wishful thinking" history website for fascist morons?

I suggest reading a basic U.S. history text... 5th grade is probably
about right.

DSK

Maybe you should read those books again. You have a selective memory as
indeed these facts were taught in my history books in Florida in the
Fifth grade. The Indians must have been killed by violence because the
white man is evil and the US government practices genocide. That is your
world view..... The truth is man is NOT inherently evil just stupid.

See:
http://www.uic.edu/classes/osci/osci...%20World. htm
18 million Indians die as a result of the first wave of diseases brought
to the new world by the Spanish

See: http://www.thefurtrapper.com/indian_smallpox.htm Rocky mountain
Indians decimated by white man diseases

See: http://www.kporterfield.com/aicttw/a...s/disease.html For a
timeline of diseases spread thru the continental US by European explorers

To be historically accurate Europeans are responsible for the deaths of
most of the Indians killed in the Continental United States.


So, you're claiming the diseases of your ancestors killed the majority of
native Americans, and then your ancestors robbed, pillaged and raped most
of the rest?

Nope I'm claiming based on FACTS posted that European diseases decimated the
Indian population. The available lands were then settled by Europeans and
when the settlers started encroaching on Indian lands (some 100 years after
the start of immigration to the continental US) the Indians attacked the
settlers. Being the stupid humans we are we didn't deal with them. We
militarily defeated them pushed them into smaller and smaller areas until
they attacked us again and the process started all over again.

Indians were the ones that "robbed, pillaged and raped" only because other
than lands they had nothing we wanted to rob. The Indians were human too
and lived up to our command heritage.

There is enough blame to go around.

There were three tribes (fuzzy on this) that integrated with the European
settlers (partly because there weren't enough of them left). They did this
because they were constantly being attacked by those tribes to the west that
were more aggressive and violent and they had more in common with us than
the Indian tribes to the west. Several of our constitutions founding
philosophies were taken from the constitution of those Indian tribes ( as
well of course from English law).