"Skipper" wrote in message
...
Harry Krause wrote:

JIMinFL wrote:
Why don't you guys meet on some neutral turf and duke it out for
bragging
rights since it appears that neither one of you have boats.

One of my boats is sitting in my driveway right now, fella. You wanna
come by for a looksee? Email me. Or I could snap a photo...it's got fall
color leaves falling on it at the moment. Later this week, after I
offload all the gear and wash and wax it, it'll be headed to the Yamaha
dealer for engine winterizing.

Why are you getting so excited and upset, Krause? You have boats, and
plenty of them. And while we're on that subject, I will take you up on
that offer of a photo. I'm particularly interested in that 'get home'
engine you've bragged about. Can we see a pic?

BTW, I can send you winterizing instructions if your capable and in good
enough health for DYI.

--
Skipper

Don't buy it for a second Skipper. That boatless pea-brain has tried to scam
me before too. He has been caught RED HANDED passing off internet photos of
boats he claimed he owned. He also said he would "prove" he owned a
boat...but said I had to give him $1000.00, and I would be able to "inspect"
that boat. He also said he wouldn't be there.

He's a boatless liar Skipper...and he *KNOWS*, that we know...end of story.


--
-Netsock

"It's just about going fast...that's all..."
http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/

I knew someone who lived aboard a 25' sailboat in the Miami area. The 25'
Sailboat had as much room as the average 20' cruiser, it was tiny. He
anchored the boat so he would not have to pay marina fees. He would use an
small inflatable boat, the kind a kid would play with. I can't believe
anyone could live this way, but it did it for 3 years while he went to
school.


"P Fritz" wrote in message
...

"Dr. Dr. Smithers" Ask Me about my Phd @ Diploma Mill .com wrote in
message ...
I know people who use a bilge heater to protect the engine, this makes it
very easy to winterize the boat, just drain the fresh water lines and
fill
them up with pink stuff.

That is basically what he is going to do.


I have always shied away from it because as soon as there was a hard
freeze
I am sure the marina would have a power failure. ; )

And where the live aboards stay is way out there

The winter is a great time to boat, but I would find a 29' to be cramped
for
long term living.

Me too, but he is a single ex marine.......now a cop in Detroit ( I
think
the marine gig was safer)

The one positive thing about the Four Winns, it is the only boat of that
size that I have been on that I can stadn straight up in with room to
spare
(I'm 6'6")


"P Fritz" wrote in message
...
Must be nice.........mine was shrink wrapped over the weekend.....:-(

I have one friend who is living aboard his 29' Four Winns over the
winter............

"Dr. Dr. Smithers" Ask Me about my Phd @ Diploma Mill .com wrote in
message ...
JiminFl,
Harry has a 25' Parker, he likes to talk about his custom built
Lobster
boat, but that is a fiction of a vivid mind. Harry is always willing
to
send photos, proof of bill of sale and offer to have to take people
fishing
on his Parker. No one has ever seen the Lobster Boat, except someone
who
was posting using Harry's IP. Someone made a $10,000 bet to prove
ownership
of the Lobster Boat, someone offered to make a $1000 contribution to
the
Salvation Army if Harry showed proof of ownership of the Lobster Boat.
Harry cowered away from both of these offers.

That aside, the odds are that Harry does own a Parker, he just never
uses
it.
Yesterday, I had a great day on the boat. Picked up some chicken,
slaw
and
potato salad and headed up to the lake. Did a little work on the
boat,
draining the fresh water lines and filling the lines with Pink Stuff.
I
then headed out for a beautiful day on the lake. Read a book, eat
some
lunch and got some sun. I have always though fall is the best time of
the
year. It is very quiet on the lake and it is more comfortable than
the
summer. I am still approximately 30 days from Winterizing the engine.
If
there is a unexpected freeze, I can winterize the engine in less than
2
hrs.

"JIMinFL" wrote in message
ink.net...
Why don't you guys meet on some neutral turf and duke it out for
bragging
rights since it appears that neither one of you have boats.

"Skipper" wrote in message
...
Harry Krause wrote:

Early on Krause was presented an opportunity to backup his
assertions
regarding certain boating and trailering products and verify his
boating
skills. As it came time for rubber to hit the road in this
reasonable
test, Harry whimpered off. That's the thing about Harry, when
Challenged, he seems unable to stand tall.

You still are trying to sell this b.s.? Your "challenge" required
me
to
tow a boat what, 2000-2500 miles? For what? To meet up with an ass
like
you who allegedly owned a 22' Crappyliner? Maybe stupid works in
Derby,
Kansas, but not in my zipcodes.

No doubt, taking on such a Challenge with your skill set and
unsuitable
equipment would indeed have been a stupid and futile undertaking.
Point
is, when given the opportunity to back up *your* words, you puked
out.
It's in the archives.

--
Skipper

Jeff Rigby wrote:
"There was a vacumn here as 80% of the origional indians in the eastern and
south easteren continental US were killed by dieases brought in by spanish
explorers. When the english and dutch sought to colonize this country there
were many unclaimed lands."


Really? How come there is no mention of that in any land title documents?

Usually land grants were given by the king, who owned the land by right
of conquest or divine providence, depending... or the large land
grantees also posted ownership claims based on grants & purchases from
Indian tribes.

If you know of any land titles originated by a European settler arriving
in North America, and stating "There was nobody here, so it's my land
now," I'd be interested to see it.

There is certainly no such in North Carolina, because the royal land
grants covering the area are still extant. AFAIK that's also true of all
the original colonies and the Louisiana Purchase.

No mention of Eskimos in my post

No, I mentioned the Eskimos because in your original statement, they
could well have been included. That's what happens when you make vague
and unsupportable claims, and at at the same time try to insert dramatic
statistics.

If you make clear and accurate statements, then people find it much more
difficult to make you look stupid and prove you wrong.

... nor was there mention of the northeast
where Dutch, English and French were very brutal in claiming, defending and
exploiting their claims. We were talking about Americans killing off the
indians and for the most part I identify with the south and have a greater
grasp of our history than the northeast and Canada.

Well, good for you. I think you still have a little ways to go, and
maybe you can also start on some world history too.


... The settlers in the
northeast have been the most brutal unethical humans on this earth for
hundreds of years. That culture I won't defend. The yankee traders of the
1800's gave us the reputation that we are still living down


No argument from me on that.



I suggest you look up some more history, like the Tuscarora War or King
Phillip's War... wars in which the Indians drove white settlers out of
large areas of their lands... temporarily, to be sure... doesn't really
fit your picture, does it? I wonder why?


Again, I was talking, or defending Americans not europeans.


???

You mean the Indians? It's a bit late to defend them, although they may
end up buying the country back with casino proceeds.


Now, if you had said that the Indians suffered massive depopulation,
mostly from deisease, starting when the Spanish explorers arrived....
*that* would be truthful. Instead you have to make up some exaggerated
claim and start hurling insults.


That's what I did say and you for some reason twisted it.

No, I would never do such a thing!

... I didn't START
hurling insults just responded to your comment that I should reread the 5th
grade history books which contained many of the statements I made but which
you seemed to have forgotten.


Is that why none of the web sites you cited backed up your claims?

Misquoting, distorting and hurling insults are not what I call adult
behavior.


I have never once misquoted or distorted anything you posted. And you
OTOH have attributed to me several statements I never made and would not
make.

As for hurling insults, you did indeed start. And continue.

DSK

My first boat was a 28ft sailboat......come to think of it, it was about the
size of your average dorm room less the headroom :-)
Needless to say, the weather in Miami would be much easier to cope with in
Jan-Feb than here in Mich.

"Dr. Dr. Smithers" Ask Me about my Phd @ Diploma Mill .com wrote in
message ...
I knew someone who lived aboard a 25' sailboat in the Miami area. The 25'
Sailboat had as much room as the average 20' cruiser, it was tiny. He
anchored the boat so he would not have to pay marina fees. He would use
an
small inflatable boat, the kind a kid would play with. I can't believe
anyone could live this way, but it did it for 3 years while he went to
school.


"P Fritz" wrote in message
...

"Dr. Dr. Smithers" Ask Me about my Phd @ Diploma Mill .com wrote in
message ...
I know people who use a bilge heater to protect the engine, this makes
it
very easy to winterize the boat, just drain the fresh water lines and
fill
them up with pink stuff.

That is basically what he is going to do.


I have always shied away from it because as soon as there was a hard
freeze
I am sure the marina would have a power failure. ; )

And where the live aboards stay is way out there

The winter is a great time to boat, but I would find a 29' to be
cramped
for
long term living.

Me too, but he is a single ex marine.......now a cop in Detroit ( I
think
the marine gig was safer)

The one positive thing about the Four Winns, it is the only boat of that
size that I have been on that I can stadn straight up in with room to
spare
(I'm 6'6")


"P Fritz" wrote in message
...
Must be nice.........mine was shrink wrapped over the weekend.....:-(

I have one friend who is living aboard his 29' Four Winns over the
winter............

"Dr. Dr. Smithers" Ask Me about my Phd @ Diploma Mill .com wrote in
message ...
JiminFl,
Harry has a 25' Parker, he likes to talk about his custom built
Lobster
boat, but that is a fiction of a vivid mind. Harry is always
willing
to
send photos, proof of bill of sale and offer to have to take people
fishing
on his Parker. No one has ever seen the Lobster Boat, except
someone
who
was posting using Harry's IP. Someone made a $10,000 bet to prove
ownership
of the Lobster Boat, someone offered to make a $1000 contribution to
the
Salvation Army if Harry showed proof of ownership of the Lobster
Boat.
Harry cowered away from both of these offers.

That aside, the odds are that Harry does own a Parker, he just never
uses
it.
Yesterday, I had a great day on the boat. Picked up some chicken,
slaw
and
potato salad and headed up to the lake. Did a little work on the
boat,
draining the fresh water lines and filling the lines with Pink
Stuff.
I
then headed out for a beautiful day on the lake. Read a book, eat
some
lunch and got some sun. I have always though fall is the best time
of
the
year. It is very quiet on the lake and it is more comfortable than
the
summer. I am still approximately 30 days from Winterizing the
engine.
If
there is a unexpected freeze, I can winterize the engine in less
than
2
hrs.

"JIMinFL" wrote in message
ink.net...
Why don't you guys meet on some neutral turf and duke it out for
bragging
rights since it appears that neither one of you have boats.

"Skipper" wrote in message
...
Harry Krause wrote:

Early on Krause was presented an opportunity to backup his
assertions
regarding certain boating and trailering products and verify
his
boating
skills. As it came time for rubber to hit the road in this
reasonable
test, Harry whimpered off. That's the thing about Harry, when
Challenged, he seems unable to stand tall.

You still are trying to sell this b.s.? Your "challenge"
required
me
to
tow a boat what, 2000-2500 miles? For what? To meet up with an
ass
like
you who allegedly owned a 22' Crappyliner? Maybe stupid works in
Derby,
Kansas, but not in my zipcodes.

No doubt, taking on such a Challenge with your skill set and
unsuitable
equipment would indeed have been a stupid and futile undertaking.
Point
is, when given the opportunity to back up *your* words, you puked
out.
It's in the archives.

--
Skipper

"Dr. Dr. Smithers" Ask Me about my Phd @ Diploma Mill .com wrote in
message ...
JiminFl,
That aside, the odds are that Harry does own a Parker, he just never uses
it.

I don't believe he owns/has a boat. There is no doubt he doesn't have time
to go out on *any* boat, but he has proven himself ignorant about even the
most basic boating knowledge...knowledge that comes with owning/having a
boat.

He has made some of the most ridiculous boating claims, its easy to
ascertain he has no boat.

Besides, he has been caught in so many lies, his credibility is beyond any
belief.

Let the boatless liar live in his fantasy world, and while we are out on the
water...krause will be typing away on Usenet...still...trying
frantically...to prove to someone...that he has a boat.

Sorry krause...but we *know* the truth, now go away little man...I off to
winterize a real boat.


--
-Netsock

"It's just about going fast...that's all..."
http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/

Netsock wrote:

Why are you getting so excited and upset, Krause? You have boats, and
plenty of them. And while we're on that subject, I will take you up on
that offer of a photo. I'm particularly interested in that 'get home'
engine you've bragged about. Can we see a pic?

BTW, I can send you winterizing instructions if your capable and in good
enough health for DYI.

Don't buy it for a second Skipper. That boatless pea-brain has tried to scam
me before too. He has been caught RED HANDED passing off internet photos of
boats he claimed he owned. He also said he would "prove" he owned a
boat...but said I had to give him $1000.00, and I would be able to "inspect"
that boat. He also said he wouldn't be there.

He's a boatless liar Skipper...and he *KNOWS*, that we know...end of story.

I know. Many years ago he bragged of owning a custom Hatteras
upholstered in Corinthian leather. When pressed, he finally produced a
picture of a boat going under a bridge that he claimed was his boat.
Someone found the website where the ad photo originated from and he was
had. He then quickly fabricated a story about some mysterious sale of
the boat. I kinda feel sorry for the guy. His only life seems to be on
the internet...

--
Skipper

Harry,
That is not a lie, that is exactly what happened. You borrowed a picture
from a web site and said it was your boat. When someone posted a link to
the exact same picture, you said it was a picture of a "sistership".

The fact that you are now covering up your mistakes is reason enough to
doubt your "sistership" excuse.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Skipper wrote:
Netsock wrote:

Why are you getting so excited and upset, Krause? You have boats, and
plenty of them. And while we're on that subject, I will take you up on
that offer of a photo. I'm particularly interested in that 'get home'
engine you've bragged about. Can we see a pic?

BTW, I can send you winterizing instructions if your capable and in
good
enough health for DYI.

Don't buy it for a second Skipper. That boatless pea-brain has tried to
scam
me before too. He has been caught RED HANDED passing off internet photos
of
boats he claimed he owned. He also said he would "prove" he owned a
boat...but said I had to give him $1000.00, and I would be able to
"inspect"
that boat. He also said he wouldn't be there.

He's a boatless liar Skipper...and he *KNOWS*, that we know...end of
story.

I know. Many years ago he bragged of owning a custom Hatteras
upholstered in Corinthian leather. When pressed, he finally produced a
picture of a boat going under a bridge that he claimed was his boat.
Someone found the website where the ad photo originated from and he was
had. He then quickly fabricated a story about some mysterious sale of
the boat. I kinda feel sorry for the guy. His only life seems to be on
the internet...

--
Skipper


Nice try, Snippy, but that's just more of your b.s.

"Dr. Dr. Smithers" wrote:

I knew someone who lived aboard a 25' sailboat in the Miami area. The 25'
Sailboat had as much room as the average 20' cruiser, it was tiny. He
anchored the boat so he would not have to pay marina fees. He would use an
small inflatable boat, the kind a kid would play with. I can't believe
anyone could live this way, but it did it for 3 years while he went to
school.

If he wore a postal uniform, that would be the famous salty rogue, Capt.
Neal®.

--
Skipper

On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 06:44:49 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:

Jeff Rigby wrote:
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 14:22:17 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Len wrote:
On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 13:45:21 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

May the children of all the warmongers here suffer the same horrific
fate.
Got a cold chill reading this Harry.
But I agree 100% with what you mean.

Regards, Len.

It is immoral to sit safe in your house while you urge that the sons and
daughters of other families be sent off to foreign lands to fight and
die in a war based on a president's incompetency, stupidity, and deceit.
Harry, are you really one who should be talking of sitting safely in your
house
while others are being sent to foreign lands to fight and die?

I think not.

For a non-participant, you are quick with the moral judgements.
--
John H
I disagree, John. I think that if an elected official votes in favor of
the war, whether to signify agreement or to provide funding, that person's
kids should be the first to enlist. They should have 7 days to do this, or
be arrested. People who voted for a candidate who declared the war - same
thing. Off with their children, or the voters themselves, if they're
otherwise eligible for service (age & health). A little over half the
country voted for Nookular Boy. Take away those who are too old to serve
or have no kids and I'd imagine we could still come up with what.....maybe
10-20 million new soldiers? End of recruiting problem.

If there's a good reason not to think this way, I haven't heard it yet.
Sounds good to me as long as the military funding has been directed by those
same people long enough for it to be properly equipped so that we have the
LOW mortality rates we have now.

Do you realize how concerned the military mind is about their guys. Speed
limits and the belt law are RIGIDLY enforced on bases to prevent deaths from
car accidents. You only heard about shaped charges in regards to taking out
tanks in the past, now terrorists are using them against jeeps because of
the armor the troop carriers have installed to protect the crew.



If the military leadership were so concerned about the troops on the
ground, the latter would have all the lightweight effective body armor
it needed, along with all the armored vehicles it needed, and it would
be spending as much on intel as it does on the overwrought contracts it
hands out.

The military spends its money as it is told to do so by civilians.
--
John H

"It's *not* a baby kicking, bride of mine, it's just a fetus!"

Hypocrital Liberal

On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 14:07:11 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 17:02:52 +0100, Len
wrote:

On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 15:49:26 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:

Wake up, Europe, you've a war on your hands

What? where? Oh, now you mention it... Tought it were just some boys
having a bit of fun...

Well, we always turn to the US when it's to do with fighting, don't
we? So, what do you suggest...,
Make firearms more accessible to the people?
Say it's Al Qaeda and invade Pakistan?
Call 'm illegal warriors, open up some camp on an island and put all
these guys in there for years without a trial?

Surprise me,

Regards, Len.

What's the Netherlands doing about the problems they're having with
Muslims,
Len? My friend in Stolwyjk seems to think there *is* a developing problem
over
there, and that taxes can be raised only so far to keep giving money to
folks
who aren't earning it.

Your friend is right. There is a problem developing over there. It's pretty
much the same problem that developed here in the early 1960s when we were
ignoring them pesky Negroes in places like Watts and Detroit. Now, there's
them pesky brown people who just happen to be Muslims.


Luckily, our media and politicians don't continuously call them 'racists'.
--
John H

"It's *not* a baby kicking, bride of mine, it's just a fetus!"

Hypocrital Liberal