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Awsome November 6th 05 05:16 PM

Atlantic Crossing on small power boat ?
 
I am thinking of Atlantic crossing for some time in my tiny power boat,
Bayliner 30 footer Aft. bridge. I am doing some changes in boat to get it
ready for this trip.

1. Replacing the Gas engine with diesel cauz diesel gives more milage plus
its cheap in Europe as compare to gas.
2. Adding extra fuel tanks to carry diesel fuel.
3. Installing small wind generator for extra electrical power on boat.
4. As back up source, installing 1000watts solar panels and small diesel
generator.
5. Another idea of using some kind of alteration on my outboard unit to
drive it with electric motor as well as engine. Havn't done the calculation
yet but I am sure it is possible. With extra onboard electric power I think
it is possible to use DC motor to drive the propeller shaft atleast for some
time and then switch over to diesel engine.
6. Another wild idea is to add flying kite thingy to my boat for extra pull
under good wind situation, here is the link if some of you is not familar
with this thing: http://www.kiteship.com/id2.html
7. I've already installed small sea water to fresh water converting unit, so
no worries to carry extra water.
8. Getting all the communication equipments like GPS, HF Radio bla bla.

Now the last thing .... what route ? should I use Northern route to cut down
the long leg in sea like From New York to Halifax, St. John, Greenland,
Iceland, Scottland and then onward.

Or should I go through southern route which most of the sailing boats
normally use, like from Florida to Panamma, Ponta Delgada and Gibraltor etc.

I know it sounds like a crazy idea but hey peoples are doing it on rowing
boats, why can't I do it.

I am open to suggestions from Folks, Please give me your best shot or any
good advise that help me or warn me of any dangers that I should be aware
off besides normal open sea encounter. Any other thing that I am over
looking here in my preparation ?

What month is better ? Which route is good North or South ?





John H. November 6th 05 05:36 PM

Atlantic Crossing on small power boat ?
 
On Sun, 6 Nov 2005 12:16:22 -0500, "Awsome" wrote:

I am thinking of Atlantic crossing for some time in my tiny power boat,
Bayliner 30 footer Aft. bridge. I am doing some changes in boat to get it
ready for this trip.

1. Replacing the Gas engine with diesel cauz diesel gives more milage plus
its cheap in Europe as compare to gas.
2. Adding extra fuel tanks to carry diesel fuel.
3. Installing small wind generator for extra electrical power on boat.
4. As back up source, installing 1000watts solar panels and small diesel
generator.
5. Another idea of using some kind of alteration on my outboard unit to
drive it with electric motor as well as engine. Havn't done the calculation
yet but I am sure it is possible. With extra onboard electric power I think
it is possible to use DC motor to drive the propeller shaft atleast for some
time and then switch over to diesel engine.
6. Another wild idea is to add flying kite thingy to my boat for extra pull
under good wind situation, here is the link if some of you is not familar
with this thing: http://www.kiteship.com/id2.html
7. I've already installed small sea water to fresh water converting unit, so
no worries to carry extra water.
8. Getting all the communication equipments like GPS, HF Radio bla bla.

Now the last thing .... what route ? should I use Northern route to cut down
the long leg in sea like From New York to Halifax, St. John, Greenland,
Iceland, Scottland and then onward.

Or should I go through southern route which most of the sailing boats
normally use, like from Florida to Panamma, Ponta Delgada and Gibraltor etc.

I know it sounds like a crazy idea but hey peoples are doing it on rowing
boats, why can't I do it.

I am open to suggestions from Folks, Please give me your best shot or any
good advise that help me or warn me of any dangers that I should be aware
off besides normal open sea encounter. Any other thing that I am over
looking here in my preparation ?

What month is better ? Which route is good North or South ?



Harry will have a lot of those answers, but he's fishing today.
--
John H

"It's *not* a baby kicking, bride of mine, it's just a fetus!"

Hypocrital Liberal

Don White November 6th 05 05:45 PM

Atlantic Crossing on small power boat ?
 
John H. wrote:
On Sun, 6 Nov 2005 12:16:22 -0500, "Awsome" wrote:


I am thinking of Atlantic crossing for some time in my tiny power boat,
Bayliner 30 footer Aft. bridge. I am doing some changes in boat to get it
ready for this trip.

1. Replacing the Gas engine with diesel cauz diesel gives more milage plus
its cheap in Europe as compare to gas.
2. Adding extra fuel tanks to carry diesel fuel.
3. Installing small wind generator for extra electrical power on boat.
4. As back up source, installing 1000watts solar panels and small diesel
generator.
5. Another idea of using some kind of alteration on my outboard unit to
drive it with electric motor as well as engine. Havn't done the calculation
yet but I am sure it is possible. With extra onboard electric power I think
it is possible to use DC motor to drive the propeller shaft atleast for some
time and then switch over to diesel engine.
6. Another wild idea is to add flying kite thingy to my boat for extra pull
under good wind situation, here is the link if some of you is not familar
with this thing: http://www.kiteship.com/id2.html
7. I've already installed small sea water to fresh water converting unit, so
no worries to carry extra water.
8. Getting all the communication equipments like GPS, HF Radio bla bla.

Now the last thing .... what route ? should I use Northern route to cut down
the long leg in sea like From New York to Halifax, St. John, Greenland,
Iceland, Scottland and then onward.

Or should I go through southern route which most of the sailing boats
normally use, like from Florida to Panamma, Ponta Delgada and Gibraltor etc.

I know it sounds like a crazy idea but hey peoples are doing it on rowing
boats, why can't I do it.

I am open to suggestions from Folks, Please give me your best shot or any
good advise that help me or warn me of any dangers that I should be aware
off besides normal open sea encounter. Any other thing that I am over
looking here in my preparation ?

What month is better ? Which route is good North or South ?




Harry will have a lot of those answers, but he's fishing today.


Might depend on time of year. the window a smaller boat would enjoy on
a northern crossing is pretty small..... maybe May/June till
September/October??

ed November 6th 05 05:57 PM

Atlantic Crossing on small power boat ?
 
last year a fleet of nordhavn trawlers made the trip. google for
magazine articles online. or go to the nordhavn website.

two suggested routes in may or june:

US to bermuda to azores to portugal

US to bahamas, hispanola, puerto rico, virgins antigue to azores to
portugal.
editor
http://www.marineenginedigest.com


Skipper November 6th 05 08:22 PM

Atlantic Crossing on small power boat ?
 
"John H." wrote:

On Sun, 6 Nov 2005 12:16:22 -0500, "Awsome" wrote:


I am thinking of Atlantic crossing for some time in my tiny power boat,
Bayliner 30 footer Aft. bridge. I am doing some changes in boat to get it
ready for this trip.


Harry will have a lot of those answers, but he's fishing today.


Nothin' special about today, as Krause can be found trolling 365 days a
year. You'd think someone so practiced would be much better at it. That
said, I doubt Mr. Jerkbait will be up to such an adventurous Challenge.
Just check the archives under 'challenge'. You'll find Krause is
strictly "nothin' doin'" when it come to competing against those highly
modified Bayliners.

Besides, just sit right back and you'll hear a tale, a tale of a fateful
trip. That started from a tropic port, aboard a tiny ship. The mate was
a mighty sailin' man, the Skipper brave and sure. Five passengers set
sail that day, for a three hour tour, a three hour tour... ... ...

The weather started getting rough, the tiny ship was Tostito tossed. If
not for the courage of the fearless crew, the Minnow would be lost; the
Minnow would be lost.

So this is the tale of our castaways, they're here for a long, long
time. They'll have to make the best of things, it's an uphill climb.
Harry and the Skipper too, will do their very best, to make the others
comfortable, in this tropic island nest.

So join us here each day my friend, you're sure to get a smile. From
these stranded castaways, here on Gilligan's Isle.

--
Skipper

NOYB November 6th 05 08:24 PM

Atlantic Crossing on small power boat ?
 

"Awsome" wrote in message
. ..
Any other thing that I am over
looking here in my preparation ?


Yes. A bigger boat that doesn't say Bayliner on the side.



[email protected] November 6th 05 08:27 PM

Atlantic Crossing on small power boat ?
 

Awsome wrote:
I am thinking of Atlantic crossing for some time in my tiny power boat,
Bayliner 30 footer Aft. bridge. I am doing some changes in boat to get it
ready for this trip.

1. Replacing the Gas engine with diesel cauz diesel gives more milage plus
its cheap in Europe as compare to gas.
2. Adding extra fuel tanks to carry diesel fuel.
3. Installing small wind generator for extra electrical power on boat.
4. As back up source, installing 1000watts solar panels and small diesel
generator.
5. Another idea of using some kind of alteration on my outboard unit to
drive it with electric motor as well as engine. Havn't done the calculation
yet but I am sure it is possible. With extra onboard electric power I think
it is possible to use DC motor to drive the propeller shaft atleast for some
time and then switch over to diesel engine.
6. Another wild idea is to add flying kite thingy to my boat for extra pull
under good wind situation, here is the link if some of you is not familar
with this thing: http://www.kiteship.com/id2.html
7. I've already installed small sea water to fresh water converting unit, so
no worries to carry extra water.
8. Getting all the communication equipments like GPS, HF Radio bla bla.

Now the last thing .... what route ? should I use Northern route to cut down
the long leg in sea like From New York to Halifax, St. John, Greenland,
Iceland, Scottland and then onward.

Or should I go through southern route which most of the sailing boats
normally use, like from Florida to Panamma, Ponta Delgada and Gibraltor etc.

I know it sounds like a crazy idea but hey peoples are doing it on rowing
boats, why can't I do it.

I am open to suggestions from Folks, Please give me your best shot or any
good advise that help me or warn me of any dangers that I should be aware
off besides normal open sea encounter. Any other thing that I am over
looking here in my preparation ?

What month is better ? Which route is good North or South ?




This isn't a cruise, it's a stunt.

Go back to square one. The vessel you have in mind is completely
unsuited to a voyage of this distance. As you add extra fuel tanks, you
will be adding a *lot* of extra weight that a 30-foot Bayliner was
never designed to manage. You will completely violating the original
design parameters of the boat. With your fuel tanks full, you will have
about enough freeboard to safely encounter 3-inch seas.

The fact that *nobody* is likely to sell you insurance, at any premium
at all, should tell you something about this plan.

You'd need to do a complete study regarding whether or not burning your
limited supply of diesel in a genset to create electrical power to
drive an electrical outboard makes any sense at all. It might be more
efficient to simply burn the fuel in the main engine.

There are countless opportunities to go adventuring in a 30-foot
Bayliner, in inland or short range near-coastal situations that the
boat was designed to handle. You can have the time of your life without
having to set out across the Atlantic. Why not use the boat in a
reasonable manner and acquire a more suitable craft for the
trans-oceanic voyage?


jps November 6th 05 08:36 PM

Atlantic Crossing on small power boat ?
 
In article , awsome0
@comcast.net says...
I am thinking of Atlantic crossing for some time in my tiny power boat,
Bayliner 30 footer Aft. bridge. I am doing some changes in boat to get it
ready for this trip.


Is it waterproof?

Most passagemakers have the ability to completely seal the vessel to
prevent sinking.

jps

Skipper November 6th 05 09:01 PM

Atlantic Crossing on small power boat ?
 
wrote:

Awsome wrote:


I am thinking of Atlantic crossing for some time in my tiny power boat,


I am open to suggestions from Folks, Please give me your best shot or any
good advise that help me or warn me of any dangers that I should be aware
off besides normal open sea encounter. Any other thing that I am over
looking here in my preparation ?


What month is better ? Which route is good North or South ?


This isn't a cruise, it's a stunt.


Go back to square one. The vessel you have in mind is completely
unsuited to a voyage of this distance.


Some NG readers recognize a troll when they see it. Perhaps other, more
unscrupulous NG netizens, take advantage of these trolls to advance
their scurrilous NW boat shilling agendas.

--
Skipper

Skipper November 6th 05 09:49 PM

Atlantic Crossing on small power boat ?
 
Gene Kearns wrote:

Yes. A bigger boat that doesn't say Bayliner on the side.


Hooo-Boy.... you are going to get on Skipper's bad side with comments
like that....


See, in 1997 or so, Skipper boasted that he spent hours in "fierce
seas" in 25'-30' waves in the Sea of Cortez in his highly modified
2252 Bayliner. He was with two bodies, one of which went into shock!
They spent the evening at sea and all they got for their trouble was a
realization of the, "importance of getting current weather information
while at sea, even IF that report is in Spanish"


A troll is a troll, Gene, even if that troll calls your wife with an
unwelcome phone call at your home. That said, you might want to check
your source for your above comments. Believe you might just find those
seas were experience in a *sailboat*...and 40 years ago. Does that
change the point you're trying to make? Catch a clue here, Gene,
electronic communications in remote sections of the Cortez were a bit
primitive in those days. You might even find posts were I described the
port of San Carlos before building one was ever built there.

So, what is your point, Gene?

--
Skipper

Skipper November 6th 05 11:21 PM

Atlantic Crossing on small power boat ?
 
Gene Kearns wrote:

Skipper wrote:


So, what is your point, Gene?


My point is... this is a boating newsgroup.


Sorry you missed the point...yet again, Gene.

--
Skipper

Don White November 6th 05 11:25 PM

Atlantic Crossing on small power boat ?
 
Gene Kearns wrote:

Hooo-Boy.... you are going to get on Skipper's bad side with comments
like that....

snip...

bad side???...as opposed to what...is there a good side?

Don White November 6th 05 11:29 PM

Atlantic Crossing on small power boat ?
 
Harry Krause wrote:

It wasn't until long after you made a fool of yourself with that b.s.
tale that you tried to recover by saying it was on a sailboat.

I had no idea one could generate 25' waves in a bathtub in Derby, Kansas.


He meant 2.5 centimeter waves.

Charlie Brown November 7th 05 12:21 AM

Atlantic Crossing on small power boat ?
 
On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 18:11:44 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:



Skippy's kind of cruising doesn't involve a boat, but, rather, a open
top car, a warm night, and $5 hookers.


You say that like it's a bad thing!


Eisboch November 7th 05 01:27 AM

Atlantic Crossing on small power boat ?
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...



I don't believe he ever owned that Bayliner. Why would someone living in
Derby, Kansas, buy a half-day cruiser?


I have not been near a computer for three weeks. Is it now the consensus
that Skipper is indeed the original Skipper?

Eisboch



Skipper November 7th 05 01:47 AM

Atlantic Crossing on small power boat ?
 
Gene Kearns wrote:

Yeah! Actually there was a happy side to Skipper in 1996-97... that
era. He had a lot of pride of ownership in his Bayliner and the one
trip that he posted some information about. Trouble started when he
crossed the line of believability and people started to question the
veracity of his posts...he has been angry and defensive ever since.
Sad, really.


http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats


Since when did you become a BSing spinmeister? Was it about the time you
started shilling for Yeaton's commercial Bayguide?

FWIW, you will find many Skipper trip reports in the archives, not just
one. I no longer post them as fodder for trolls such as yourself. A case
could be made that these reports would be far better for the NG than
your continued vitriol.

--
Skipper

Skipper November 7th 05 01:53 AM

Atlantic Crossing on small power boat ?
 
Eisboch wrote:

I have not been near a computer for three weeks. Is it now the consensus
that Skipper is indeed the original Skipper?


Yours truly,

--
Skipper

Skipper November 7th 05 02:28 AM

Atlantic Crossing on small power boat ?
 
Gene Kearns wrote:

I don't think I have subjected you to ANY verbal abuse... unless
reading your own words, that I quoted, is somehow painful. And I
certainly harbor no ill will.


And I simply don't suffer fools as gladly as I once did.

--
Skipper

Don White November 7th 05 03:19 AM

Atlantic Crossing on small power boat ?
 
Eisboch wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...


I don't believe he ever owned that Bayliner. Why would someone living in
Derby, Kansas, buy a half-day cruiser?



I have not been near a computer for three weeks. Is it now the consensus
that Skipper is indeed the original Skipper?

Eisboch


I believe so...at least in some reduced capacity.

Skipper November 7th 05 04:08 AM

Atlantic Crossing on small power boat ?
 
Harry Krause wrote:

Eisboch wrote:


I have not been near a computer for three weeks. Is it now the consensus
that Skipper is indeed the original Skipper?


Indeed, but a nastier and more removed from reality Skipper. Several
believe he has suffered a stroke and a modest personality change, and
not for the better. Naturally, since he doesn't like me much, the usual
scum are encouraging him.


Oh...Skipper seems into full-blown anti-Semitism now. Isn't that nice?


Oh, I know what this is about. It's about that Jewfish story I posted a
couple weeks ago. In the story, that Jewfish demanded an exorbitant
amount of interest from me. Harry must think that's how they get their
name? In truth, I suspect Harry would have backed off that kind of
interest as well.

--
Skipper

[email protected] November 7th 05 05:12 AM

Atlantic Crossing on small power boat ?
 

Skipper wrote:


Some NG readers recognize a troll when they see it.


They are pretty easy to spot. Usually have Democrats, Liberals, George
Bush, or another poster's name in the heading and 6-10 per day
originate in Kansas.

Have a pleasant Sunday, (whatever remains of it), Psuedo.


Bill McKee November 7th 05 09:36 PM

Atlantic Crossing on small power boat ?
 

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sun, 6 Nov 2005 12:16:22 -0500, "Awsome" wrote:

I am thinking of Atlantic crossing for some time in my tiny power boat,
Bayliner 30 footer Aft. bridge. I am doing some changes in boat to get it
ready for this trip.

1. Replacing the Gas engine with diesel cauz diesel gives more milage plus
its cheap in Europe as compare to gas.
2. Adding extra fuel tanks to carry diesel fuel.
3. Installing small wind generator for extra electrical power on boat.
4. As back up source, installing 1000watts solar panels and small diesel
generator.
5. Another idea of using some kind of alteration on my outboard unit to
drive it with electric motor as well as engine. Havn't done the
calculation
yet but I am sure it is possible. With extra onboard electric power I
think
it is possible to use DC motor to drive the propeller shaft atleast for
some
time and then switch over to diesel engine.
6. Another wild idea is to add flying kite thingy to my boat for extra
pull
under good wind situation, here is the link if some of you is not familar
with this thing: http://www.kiteship.com/id2.html
7. I've already installed small sea water to fresh water converting unit,
so
no worries to carry extra water.
8. Getting all the communication equipments like GPS, HF Radio bla bla.

Now the last thing .... what route ? should I use Northern route to cut
down
the long leg in sea like From New York to Halifax, St. John, Greenland,
Iceland, Scottland and then onward.

Or should I go through southern route which most of the sailing boats
normally use, like from Florida to Panamma, Ponta Delgada and Gibraltor
etc.

I know it sounds like a crazy idea but hey peoples are doing it on rowing
boats, why can't I do it.

I am open to suggestions from Folks, Please give me your best shot or any
good advise that help me or warn me of any dangers that I should be aware
off besides normal open sea encounter. Any other thing that I am over
looking here in my preparation ?

What month is better ? Which route is good North or South ?



Harry will have a lot of those answers, but he's fishing today.
--
John H

"It's *not* a baby kicking, bride of mine, it's just a fetus!"

Hypocrital Liberal


You bad. Lots of 55 gallon barrels of fuel.
http://www.insidebayarea.com/trivall...ews/ci_3191094
If a go fast boat can make it a thousand miles, a slower boat ought to do
better.



Capt. Matt November 7th 05 11:11 PM

Atlantic Crossing on small power boat ?
 

Awsome wrote:
I am thinking of Atlantic crossing for some time in my tiny power boat,
Bayliner 30 footer Aft. bridge. I am doing some changes in boat to get it
ready for this trip.



Why not save the money for the retro fit, sell the Bayliner to another
coastal cruiser or Happyhour Captain and combine the money and get a
used 'Trader' or other small vessel better suited to the task at hand?

Not being a wise ass, just practical... plus much safer IMHO.

No matter what you decide, just do it! As the say, keep the dream
alive!

Matt


thunder November 8th 05 02:15 AM

Atlantic Crossing on small power boat ?
 
On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 21:36:22 +0000, Bill McKee wrote:


You bad. Lots of 55 gallon barrels of fuel.
http://www.insidebayarea.com/trivall...ews/ci_3191094 If a go
fast boat can make it a thousand miles, a slower boat ought to do better.


Whatever happened to the stealth boats? Several years back, I remember
reading drug smugglers where using so-called stealth boats. I believe
they were low and slow, but I never did see a picture of one.

Bill McKee November 8th 05 06:32 AM

Atlantic Crossing on small power boat ?
 

"thunder" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 21:36:22 +0000, Bill McKee wrote:


You bad. Lots of 55 gallon barrels of fuel.
http://www.insidebayarea.com/trivall...ews/ci_3191094 If a go
fast boat can make it a thousand miles, a slower boat ought to do better.


Whatever happened to the stealth boats? Several years back, I remember
reading drug smugglers where using so-called stealth boats. I believe
they were low and slow, but I never did see a picture of one.


These seem to be stealth except for the wake. Looks like it is over a
thousand mile, and so they need speed to allow less time for discovery.



Awsome November 8th 05 04:51 PM

Atlantic Crossing on small power boat ?
 
Matt:
I agreed with you, after reading lot of post here I gave up Bayliner....
start looking again...may be a Cruiser 51 or some thing else.





"Capt. Matt" wrote in message
oups.com...

Awsome wrote:
I am thinking of Atlantic crossing for some time in my tiny power boat,
Bayliner 30 footer Aft. bridge. I am doing some changes in boat to get it
ready for this trip.



Why not save the money for the retro fit, sell the Bayliner to another
coastal cruiser or Happyhour Captain and combine the money and get a
used 'Trader' or other small vessel better suited to the task at hand?

Not being a wise ass, just practical... plus much safer IMHO.

No matter what you decide, just do it! As the say, keep the dream
alive!

Matt




Capt. Matt November 9th 05 01:10 AM

Atlantic Crossing on small power boat ?
 

Awsome wrote:
Matt:
I agreed with you, after reading lot of post here I gave up Bayliner....
start looking again...may be a Cruiser 51 or some thing else.


I Would recommend a Swan 74, but that is just me,

Now promise that if you get any progress with the outboard
Electric/diesel hybrid you'll let us know. I'm also very interested in
the kite assist, let us know if it is an idea that can work or just too
much trouble for real world application... (ask Charlie Brown).

Good luck and keep us informed!

Matt


Awsome November 9th 05 01:27 AM

Atlantic Crossing on small power boat ?
 
Thanks to all those folks who responded to my post. I was expecting that all
the shots will be fired at me instead of settleing some good old score in
between them :-)

Now I have one last curious question which none of my friends addressed here
in their post. Just for the argument sake keeping my tiny boat in mind
crossing 2000 Miles in one go is mission impossible. I can't carry that much
fuel without a supporting vessel. So I have to forget about southern and
middle atltantic route cauz 2000 miles no way hell I can make it on this
boat.

Now how about northern route ? Any one knows any thing about that ? From New
Foundland, Canada to Greenland is roughly 750 miles and then upto Iceland
another 860 miles. From Iceland to Northern part of Scotland is another
roughly 600 miles. That kinda distance can be reachable provided weather is
in my favor and I take it easy and don't rush things.

Any one wanna comment on this route please ?


"Awsome" wrote in message
. ..
I am thinking of Atlantic crossing for some time in my tiny power boat,
Bayliner 30 footer Aft. bridge. I am doing some changes in boat to get it
ready for this trip.

1. Replacing the Gas engine with diesel cauz diesel gives more milage plus
its cheap in Europe as compare to gas.
2. Adding extra fuel tanks to carry diesel fuel.
3. Installing small wind generator for extra electrical power on boat.
4. As back up source, installing 1000watts solar panels and small diesel
generator.
5. Another idea of using some kind of alteration on my outboard unit to
drive it with electric motor as well as engine. Havn't done the
calculation
yet but I am sure it is possible. With extra onboard electric power I
think
it is possible to use DC motor to drive the propeller shaft atleast for
some
time and then switch over to diesel engine.
6. Another wild idea is to add flying kite thingy to my boat for extra
pull
under good wind situation, here is the link if some of you is not familar
with this thing: http://www.kiteship.com/id2.html
7. I've already installed small sea water to fresh water converting unit,
so
no worries to carry extra water.
8. Getting all the communication equipments like GPS, HF Radio bla bla.

Now the last thing .... what route ? should I use Northern route to cut
down
the long leg in sea like From New York to Halifax, St. John, Greenland,
Iceland, Scottland and then onward.

Or should I go through southern route which most of the sailing boats
normally use, like from Florida to Panamma, Ponta Delgada and Gibraltor
etc.

I know it sounds like a crazy idea but hey peoples are doing it on rowing
boats, why can't I do it.

I am open to suggestions from Folks, Please give me your best shot or any
good advise that help me or warn me of any dangers that I should be aware
off besides normal open sea encounter. Any other thing that I am over
looking here in my preparation ?

What month is better ? Which route is good North or South ?







Awsome November 9th 05 01:53 AM

Atlantic Crossing on small power boat ?
 
Matt:

I am actively workin on this electric hybrid project on my boat and
definitely keep you guys inform through this post.

Thanks again for all the comments.

"Capt. Matt" wrote in message
oups.com...

Awsome wrote:
Matt:
I agreed with you, after reading lot of post here I gave up Bayliner....
start looking again...may be a Cruiser 51 or some thing else.


I Would recommend a Swan 74, but that is just me,

Now promise that if you get any progress with the outboard
Electric/diesel hybrid you'll let us know. I'm also very interested in
the kite assist, let us know if it is an idea that can work or just too
much trouble for real world application... (ask Charlie Brown).

Good luck and keep us informed!

Matt




Don White November 9th 05 04:02 AM

Atlantic Crossing on small power boat ?
 
Awsome wrote:
Thanks to all those folks who responded to my post. I was expecting that all
the shots will be fired at me instead of settleing some good old score in
between them :-)

Now I have one last curious question which none of my friends addressed here
in their post. Just for the argument sake keeping my tiny boat in mind
crossing 2000 Miles in one go is mission impossible. I can't carry that much
fuel without a supporting vessel. So I have to forget about southern and
middle atltantic route cauz 2000 miles no way hell I can make it on this
boat.

Now how about northern route ? Any one knows any thing about that ? From New
Foundland, Canada to Greenland is roughly 750 miles and then upto Iceland
another 860 miles. From Iceland to Northern part of Scotland is another
roughly 600 miles. That kinda distance can be reachable provided weather is
in my favor and I take it easy and don't rush things.

Any one wanna comment on this route please ?


"Awsome" wrote in message
. ..

I am thinking of Atlantic crossing for some time in my tiny power boat,
Bayliner 30 footer Aft. bridge. I am doing some changes in boat to get it
ready for this trip.

1. Replacing the Gas engine with diesel cauz diesel gives more milage plus
its cheap in Europe as compare to gas.
2. Adding extra fuel tanks to carry diesel fuel.
3. Installing small wind generator for extra electrical power on boat.
4. As back up source, installing 1000watts solar panels and small diesel
generator.
5. Another idea of using some kind of alteration on my outboard unit to
drive it with electric motor as well as engine. Havn't done the
calculation
yet but I am sure it is possible. With extra onboard electric power I
think
it is possible to use DC motor to drive the propeller shaft atleast for
some
time and then switch over to diesel engine.
6. Another wild idea is to add flying kite thingy to my boat for extra
pull
under good wind situation, here is the link if some of you is not familar
with this thing: http://www.kiteship.com/id2.html
7. I've already installed small sea water to fresh water converting unit,
so
no worries to carry extra water.
8. Getting all the communication equipments like GPS, HF Radio bla bla.

Now the last thing .... what route ? should I use Northern route to cut
down
the long leg in sea like From New York to Halifax, St. John, Greenland,
Iceland, Scottland and then onward.

Or should I go through southern route which most of the sailing boats
normally use, like from Florida to Panamma, Ponta Delgada and Gibraltor
etc.

I know it sounds like a crazy idea but hey peoples are doing it on rowing
boats, why can't I do it.

I am open to suggestions from Folks, Please give me your best shot or any
good advise that help me or warn me of any dangers that I should be aware
off besides normal open sea encounter. Any other thing that I am over
looking here in my preparation ?

What month is better ? Which route is good North or South ?


Canadian Coast Guard and Navy are always rescuing adventurers who get
into trouble for one reason or another. good thing...should be lots of
traffic incase things go bad.


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