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How do I work on an old 62 Johnson, out of a body of water? I know that
for my evinrude I've used a huge garbage can, but I was wondering if
there was something like you can use on newer lower units (of IO's, for
example).

It looks like the water intake is above the prop, and I don't think the
same thing would work for both. Is there something easy to use?

I can make this make more sense if needed.

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On 2 Nov 2005 17:26:20 -0800, "Blazer Fan Dan" wrote:

How do I work on an old 62 Johnson, out of a body of water? I know that
for my evinrude I've used a huge garbage can, but I was wondering if
there was something like you can use on newer lower units (of IO's, for
example).

It looks like the water intake is above the prop, and I don't think the
same thing would work for both. Is there something easy to use?

I can make this make more sense if needed.

Are you looking for something like this?

http://www.boatus-store.com/webapp/w...0002/202/169/6

--
John H.
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD

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John H. wrote:
On 2 Nov 2005 17:26:20 -0800, "Blazer Fan Dan" wrote:

How do I work on an old 62 Johnson, out of a body of water? I know that
for my evinrude I've used a huge garbage can, but I was wondering if
there was something like you can use on newer lower units (of IO's, for
example).

It looks like the water intake is above the prop, and I don't think the
same thing would work for both. Is there something easy to use?

I can make this make more sense if needed.

Are you looking for something like this?

http://www.boatus-store.com/webapp/w...0002/202/169/6

will those work for the something this old? I thought the water intake
was in a place that the "flushers" would be able to work.


--
John H.
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD

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Harry Krause wrote:
Blazer Fan Dan wrote:
How do I work on an old 62 Johnson, out of a body of water? I know that
for my evinrude I've used a huge garbage can, but I was wondering if
there was something like you can use on newer lower units (of IO's, for
example).

It looks like the water intake is above the prop, and I don't think the
same thing would work for both. Is there something easy to use?

I can make this make more sense if needed.



My Johnson dates back to the 1940s, and it still works out of water.

Seriously, you need a pair of muffs. That'll keep the engine cool enough
at low RPMs. If you are contemplating running it up to full RPMs, you'll
need a tank of some sort.

mostly at idle.

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Blazer Fan Dan wrote:


Are you looking for something like this?

http://www.boatus-store.com/webapp/w...0002/202/169/6


will those work for the something this old? I thought the water intake
was in a place that the "flushers" would be able to work.



I don't think 'muffs' work on my '86 Evinrude Yachtwin 6hp because of
where the water intake is. I bought a good size 'tub' from a local
store and fill it with water. Afterwards, I have to use paper towels to
skim off the oil before I can dump the water. I can see why so many
people are turning to 4 stroke.

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On 3 Nov 2005 09:01:18 -0800, "Blazer Fan Dan" wrote:


John H. wrote:
On 2 Nov 2005 17:26:20 -0800, "Blazer Fan Dan" wrote:

How do I work on an old 62 Johnson, out of a body of water? I know that
for my evinrude I've used a huge garbage can, but I was wondering if
there was something like you can use on newer lower units (of IO's, for
example).

It looks like the water intake is above the prop, and I don't think the
same thing would work for both. Is there something easy to use?

I can make this make more sense if needed.

Are you looking for something like this?

http://www.boatus-store.com/webapp/w...0002/202/169/6

will those work for the something this old? I thought the water intake
was in a place that the "flushers" would be able to work.


--
John H.
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD

These 'muffs' are what I use when running my engine while the boat is out of the
water. The water intakes are above the propeller, as you said your's were. I
can't see your engine, so I can't verify they'll work for you.
--
John H

"It's *not* a baby kicking, bride of mine, it's just a fetus!"

HK

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John H. wrote:
On 2 Nov 2005 17:26:20 -0800, "Blazer Fan Dan"
wrote:

How do I work on an old 62 Johnson, out of a body of water? I know that
for my evinrude I've used a huge garbage can, but I was wondering if
there was something like you can use on newer lower units (of IO's, for
example).

It looks like the water intake is above the prop, and I don't think the
same thing would work for both. Is there something easy to use?

I can make this make more sense if needed.

Are you looking for something like this?

http://www.boatus-store.com/webapp/w...0002/202/169/6

will those work for the something this old? I thought the water intake
was in a place that the "flushers" would be able to work.

Depends on the shape of the surface around your intakes. On my 96 Johnson,
the whole area's almost flat, just slightly curved, and the rubber muffs
conform pretty well. Are you near a Boat U.S. or West Marine store?

As others have said, don't run at high RPMs with muffs. And, even if they
seem to be staying in place while you're doing whatever you're doing, do not
under any circumstances walk away to go get a beer or whatever. I did this
once. As I returned, I saw the muffs slipping off completely. Ran without
water for just a second, so no damage was done. Now, I wipe down the area
with rubbing alcohol to make sure it's tacky-clean, and I *still* don't walk
away from it.

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John H. wrote:

These 'muffs' are what I use when running my engine while the boat is out of the
water. The water intakes are above the propeller, as you said your's were. I
can't see your engine, so I can't verify they'll work for you.
--
John H

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...Picture113.jpg here
is the lower unit.

I'm a little under the weather right now, so I don't feel up to getting
a picture of what I think is the intake (maybe later today)...but I
think it's the flat section above the prop, perpendicular to the shaft.

I could be wrong tho, and probably am.

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"Blazer Fan Dan" wrote in message
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John H. wrote:

These 'muffs' are what I use when running my engine while the boat is out
of the
water. The water intakes are above the propeller, as you said your's
were. I
can't see your engine, so I can't verify they'll work for you.
--
John H

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...Picture113.jpg here
is the lower unit.

I'm a little under the weather right now, so I don't feel up to getting
a picture of what I think is the intake (maybe later today)...but I
think it's the flat section above the prop, perpendicular to the shaft.

I could be wrong tho, and probably am.


No guts, no glory! Get out there with the camera!

But seriously, it looks pretty much like mine. Get the muffs. Keep in mind
that there might be slight gaps - they don't seal like suction cups on a
window. But, if you turn the hose all the way up, there'll be more than
enough water for the intakes to....take in.

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Blazer Fan Dan wrote:
: How do I work on an old 62 Johnson, out of a body of water? I know that
: for my evinrude I've used a huge garbage can, but I was wondering if
: there was something like you can use on newer lower units (of IO's, for
: example).

: It looks like the water intake is above the prop, and I don't think the
: same thing would work for both. Is there something easy to use?

: I can make this make more sense if needed.


The headphones like flusher probably won't work.
My dad had an old 90 HP Johnson and it had the water intake just above
the prop, in front of the "exhaust tail". He needed a flushing attachment
like this: http://marineengineparts.com/shopsit...ml/page217.htm

barry

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wrote:

: The headphones like flusher probably won't work.
: My dad had an old 90 HP Johnson and it had the water intake just above
: the prop, in front of the "exhaust tail". He needed a flushing attachment
: like this: http://marineengineparts.com/shopsit...ml/page217.htm

: barry


I'd better clarify.... sorry for another post. The flusher is the metal
plate type flusher TEM380010 (although I'd check the part number to make
sure it's a plate type flusher as I've seen this P/N other places on
the web as a muff-type flusher).

the way it's used is it's place *underneath* the cavitation plate. There's
neoprene on the opposite side. The hose tube/fitting tails off the exhaust
snout that is on the bottom of the cavitation plate so the hose
is directed away from the prop. The two metal brackets are secured to
the plate flusher and have carriage bolts on them and wingnuts on the
opposite end. The plate is pressed against the water intake screen
on the bottom of the cavitaion plate and located against the exhaust
snout. The two metal "arms" are swung abound and clamped on the *top*
of the cavitation plate, securing it.

barry

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if you run it in a tank, don't run it too long as the water
will get hot and over heat the engine unless you let a
garden hose run while you are testing it.
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wrote:

: The headphones like flusher probably won't work.
: My dad had an old 90 HP Johnson and it had the water
intake just above
: the prop, in front of the "exhaust tail". He needed a
flushing attachment
: like this:
http://marineengineparts.com/shopsit...e/html/page217.
htm

: barry


I'd better clarify.... sorry for another post. The flusher
is the metal
plate type flusher TEM380010 (although I'd check the part
number to make
sure it's a plate type flusher as I've seen this P/N other
places on
the web as a muff-type flusher).

the way it's used is it's place *underneath* the cavitation
plate. There's
neoprene on the opposite side. The hose tube/fitting tails
off the exhaust
snout that is on the bottom of the cavitation plate so the
hose
is directed away from the prop. The two metal brackets are
secured to
the plate flusher and have carriage bolts on them and
wingnuts on the
opposite end. The plate is pressed against the water intake
screen
on the bottom of the cavitaion plate and located against the
exhaust
snout. The two metal "arms" are swung abound and clamped on
the *top*
of the cavitation plate, securing it.

barry

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I know what you need; The muffs will not work. I have one for my 25hp '82
Johnson. It "wraps" around the pick up above and behind the prop. I havent
seen one in years but try West Marine, Boat US or some "Old" boat shop. Or,
you must use the bucket approach.
LD

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John H. wrote:
On 2 Nov 2005 17:26:20 -0800, "Blazer Fan Dan"
wrote:

How do I work on an old 62 Johnson, out of a body of water? I know that
for my evinrude I've used a huge garbage can, but I was wondering if
there was something like you can use on newer lower units (of IO's, for
example).

It looks like the water intake is above the prop, and I don't think the
same thing would work for both. Is there something easy to use?

I can make this make more sense if needed.

Are you looking for something like this?


http://www.boatus-store.com/webapp/w...0002/202/169/6

will those work for the something this old? I thought the water intake
was in a place that the "flushers" would be able to work.


--
John H.
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD

fixing up an old johnson
 

Blazer Fan Dan wrote:
How do I work on an old 62 Johnson, out of a body of water? I know that
for my evinrude I've used a huge garbage can, but I was wondering if
there was something like you can use on newer lower units (of IO's, for
example).

It looks like the water intake is above the prop, and I don't think the
same thing would work for both. Is there something easy to use?

I can make this make more sense if needed.

Depends on which engine?
If it's the Super Seahorse 75 or similar type B lower unit. There was a
special flush adapter made, that secures to the cavitation plate. Not
sure where you might find one today. Might try some old time outboard
mechanics or maybe E-Bay. I still need mine to work on the 62 Gale.

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Found 1



TEMPO MOTOR FLUSHER
$27.49
TEM380010
Tempo offers a full line of Motor Flushers - for almost every engine..
Flush away sand, silt, salt and other contaminant's to prevent clogging
and corrosion. FOR OMC/CHRYSLER/WARDS SEA KING



http://marineengineparts.com/shopsit...l/page217.html
(P.S. I stumbled across this site and have no knowledge good or bad
about it.)

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wrote:
Blazer Fan Dan wrote:
How do I work on an old 62 Johnson, out of a body of water? I know that
for my evinrude I've used a huge garbage can, but I was wondering if
there was something like you can use on newer lower units (of IO's, for
example).

It looks like the water intake is above the prop, and I don't think the
same thing would work for both. Is there something easy to use?

I can make this make more sense if needed.

Depends on which engine?
If it's the Super Seahorse 75 or similar type B lower unit. There was a
special flush adapter made, that secures to the cavitation plate. Not
sure where you might find one today. Might try some old time outboard
mechanics or maybe E-Bay. I still need mine to work on the 62 Gale.

It is a super seahorse.

I think I am going to just use a bucket, and have water running in it.
Thanks all for the help and advice.