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I thought it was a fantastic movie.

different from ye olde Aro Flynn swashbuckeling stuff, and far removed
from the comedy stuff like "Pirates of the Carribean"...sorry

It gave a visual piece of what it was like on the high seas of the time
and era.

I really felt sorry for the victim and crew of the ship who in the
storm chase had to cut the guy loose so the ship wouldn't be toppled,
leaving him to the vengance of the storm and sea.

Can't think of the guys name, but the Captain in real life was picked
up and charged with being a wife beater etc. so sad.

Tim

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Do yourself a favor and read the books, when you do the movie, although
still enjoyable, seems shallow and contrived. I was more of a collection of
scenes from the books spliced together to arrive at a plot.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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wrote:
I thought it was a fantastic movie.



I did, too. And it was a fairly accurate depiction of life at sea in
those days. There were lots of injuries and deaths aboard ships of the
line.

Master and Commander...
 

Harry,
Are you sure their were many injuries and deaths on a war ship? Did the
infantry during that time have many injuries and deaths when they went into
battle?


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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wrote:
I thought it was a fantastic movie.



I did, too. And it was a fairly accurate depiction of life at sea in those
days. There were lots of injuries and deaths aboard ships of the line.

Master and Commander...
 

"Dr. Dr. Smithers" Ask Me about my Phd @ Diploma Mill .com wrote in
message ...
Harry,
Are you sure their were many injuries and deaths on a war ship? Did the
infantry during that time have many injuries and deaths when they went
into
battle?
I took Harry's comment to mean that every day life aboard ships, in those
days, would be risky to life and limb.
Do your replies have to be so sarcastic? Why don't you grow up and act
your age?

Jim

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Jim C,

I must have missed your rebuts when Harry makes sarcastic comments and off
color degrading comments to anyone who disagrees with his political
philosophy. Since my sarcastic comments are 90% less than those made by
Harry, and I never use profanity to make a point, I know you must have come
down very hard on poor Harry.


"Jim Carter" wrote in message
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"Dr. Dr. Smithers" Ask Me about my Phd @ Diploma Mill .com wrote in
message ...
Harry,
Are you sure their were many injuries and deaths on a war ship? Did the
infantry during that time have many injuries and deaths when they went
into
battle?
I took Harry's comment to mean that every day life aboard ships, in those
days, would be risky to life and limb.
Do your replies have to be so sarcastic? Why don't you grow up and act
your age?

Jim

Master and Commander...
 

Harry,
You read every one of my posts and respond to at least 75% of them.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Jim Carter wrote:
"Dr. Dr. Smithers" Ask Me about my Phd @ Diploma Mill .com wrote in
message ...
Harry,
Are you sure their were many injuries and deaths on a war ship? Did
the
infantry during that time have many injuries and deaths when they went
into
battle?
I took Harry's comment to mean that every day life aboard ships, in those
days, would be risky to life and limb.
Do your replies have to be so sarcastic? Why don't you grow up and act
your age?

Jim



That's precisely what I meant. You just never knew when you stepped aboard
a warship or even commercial ship in the 19th Century whether you would
return and if you did whether you'd have all your limbs, and you didn't
even have to be in a battle to sustain a horrific shipboard injury. It was
very dangerous work.

Smithers is a lost cause. He's only here to see who he can hector, and
he's in a permanently ****ed-off mode because I never see about 90% of the
"barbs" he tosses at me.

Master and Commander...
 

Jim Carter wrote:


I took Harry's comment to mean that every day life aboard ships, in those
days, would be risky to life and limb.
Do your replies have to be so sarcastic? Why don't you grow up and act
your age?

Jim



Now that raises a very good question...just how old is Smithers?

Master and Commander...
 

Harry Krause wrote:
Jim Carter wrote:

"Dr. Dr. Smithers" Ask Me about my Phd @ Diploma Mill .com wrote in
message ...

Harry,
Are you sure their were many injuries and deaths on a war ship? Did
the
infantry during that time have many injuries and deaths when they went

into

battle?

I took Harry's comment to mean that every day life aboard ships, in those
days, would be risky to life and limb.
Do your replies have to be so sarcastic? Why don't you grow up and act
your age?

Jim



That's precisely what I meant. You just never knew when you stepped
aboard a warship or even commercial ship in the 19th Century whether you
would return and if you did whether you'd have all your limbs, and you
didn't even have to be in a battle to sustain a horrific shipboard
injury. It was very dangerous work.

Smithers is a lost cause. He's only here to see who he can hector, and
he's in a permanently ****ed-off mode because I never see about 90% of
the "barbs" he tosses at me.

Here the British Navy had to operate 'Press Gangs' to re-man their ships
and replace sailors injured, sick or dead in the course of their duties.
Especially after the ungrateful rabble in Boston threw out the Brits, my
home port became the main naval base on this side of the Atlantic. Up to
70 British naval ships could be here at one time....and few people
clamored to join up.
http://www.angelfire.com/ns/bkeddy/halifaxcity.html

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"Dr. Dr. Smithers" Ask Me about my Phd @ Diploma Mill .com wrote in
message . ..
Jim C,

I must have missed your rebuts when Harry makes sarcastic comments and off
color degrading comments to anyone who disagrees with his political
philosophy. Since my sarcastic comments are 90% less than those made by
Harry, and I never use profanity to make a point, I know you must have
come
down very hard on poor Harry.
You must have majored in "sarcasm" in school. Grow up.
Jim

Master and Commander...
 

Dr. Dr. Smithers wrote:
Harry,
Are you sure their were many injuries and deaths on a war ship? Did the
infantry during that time have many injuries and deaths when they went into
battle?


Any modern army (post WWII) would run for home in an instant if it was
taking the percentage losses associated with naval warfare in the early
19th Century.

Infection and disease took a huge toll. The major hazards during an
engagement was flying splinters, schrapnel, and falling rigging- far
more likely to cause death than being stabbed with a cutlass or picked
off by a sharpshooter.

Losses were so astronomical and life aboard so generally crappy that
the British government had full time press gangs just rounding up
farmers, blacksmiths, shopkeepers, apprentices, and almost anybody
drunk enough to be easily subdued to fill the vacancies in the navy.
Merchant vessels could be hauled down (and stripped of all but a bare
bones crew) at the discretion of any naval captain who felt he needed
more men on the gundeck.

As you likely remember, one of the root causes of our War of 1812
(where the British burned Washington DC) was the continued pressing of
American seamen by the British navy.

Infantry losses were also very high, due primarily to the tactics
involved.
By the time of the American Civil War, weaponry had advanced
significantly but the tactics employed were still often 17-18th century
"skirmish line" and firing-from-formation techniques. Many historians
believe that the Civil War was the costliest war, in terms of a
percentage of combatants killed- but if the Napoleanic era was much
behind in this statistic it would have been primarliy due to the
shorter range and longer loading times of the weapons- the tactics were
very similar.

The naval tactics at the time, and the infantry tactics into the middle
of the 19th Century, reflected the feudal social values that prevailed
in Europe several hundred years ago.....(the serfs were expendable
property)....and served as the basis for western military tactics until
the latter part of the 19th Century.