I am proud we dutch have had the guts to *regulate* euthanasia.

I see your point. But once anything is government regulated, you have
abuses. What would stop a government from saying you retire at 60, you die
at 75, here is the place where you go to die. We are doing this because our
retirement funds are declining.

On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 13:02:38 -0500, "Dan J.S." wrote:


I am proud we dutch have had the guts to *regulate* euthanasia.

I see your point. But once anything is government regulated, you have
abuses. What would stop a government from saying you retire at 60, you die
at 75, here is the place where you go to die. We are doing this because our
retirement funds are declining.

The point is where there is no regulation abuse will be greater.
I know that the sheer legal possibility to "kill" makes a bad first
impression.
But be reassured. There is *NO* case of euthanasia if the patient
isn't completely sane when he/she asked for it him or herself.

If ever, you should be afraid when nothing is regulated and it becomes
common practice to give a bit more morfine to ease the pain.....
decided by individual elderly home-doctors without any legal
framework...

Regards, Len.

Len wrote:

There is *NO* case of euthanasia if the patient
isn't completely sane when he/she asked for it him or herself.

BS! There is no such thing as absolutes in these situations.

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Skipper

On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 13:24:22 -0500, Skipper wrote:

Len wrote:

There is *NO* case of euthanasia if the patient
isn't completely sane when he/she asked for it him or herself.

BS! There is no such thing as absolutes in these situations.

1 When a doctor helps he has to make the case known to a multidiscipl.
comittee.
2 When the doctor helps and doesn't make the case known he'll be
prosecuted. This is the same in your country I guess.
3 When the case is made known all aspects are checked. and of course
no 1 is "did the patient ask for help in writing". no 2: was there a
case of suffering without any hope for improvement of the condition.
Judges are doing a good job on defining these terms.

Your fear is not rational imo. You should be afraid for the opposite.
What do you prefer, a system like this where you can successfully ask
for help when YOU need it or a dogmatic NO in all cases where even the
saddest lungcancer patient has to suffocate in his own slime?
Excuse for becoming that explicit but that's how grewsome (sorry for
misspellings) life is at that very moment.

But is the fear for getting killed by the government not really an
excuse ? So you don't have to point out it's forbidden by the bible?
In that case you're totally free in making your own choice. But don't
interfere in me making mine...

Regards, Len.