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Skipper October 25th 05 06:45 PM

What Happens if you're a Dem
 
You stab the Pahlavi family in the back, turning Iran over to America
hating terrorists and eventually killing millions in a nuclear attack.

You turn America's pride, the Panama Canal over to leftists who give
control of the Canal over to America's avowed enemies in communist
China.

You despise traditional American values.

You support the massive invasion of illegal aliens into the US and
making them legal voters. The weight of their presence sinks the US
medical system and forces jobs offshore.

--
Skipper

Skipper October 25th 05 07:04 PM

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Harry Krause wrote:

Another crock'o'crap from our Kansas Derby contestant.


The Shah was a brutal dictator, installed and supported by the CIA.


The Panama Canal was rightfully returned to Panama.


Your values, not mine, are destroying America.


The US medical system is sinking because it is woefully inefficent
and corrupt.


Do you have any idea what illegal immigrants cost the US medical system
each day?

BTW, do you support Christmas?

--
Skipper

*JimH* October 25th 05 07:07 PM

What Happens if you're a Dem
 

"Skipper" wrote in message
...
Harry Krause wrote:

Another crock'o'crap from our Kansas Derby contestant.


The Shah was a brutal dictator, installed and supported by the CIA.


The Panama Canal was rightfully returned to Panama.


Your values, not mine, are destroying America.


The US medical system is sinking because it is woefully inefficent
and corrupt.


Do you have any idea what illegal immigrants cost the US medical system
each day?



And it is therefore a shame that Bush continues to ignore our borders. My
concern goes past the cost to the US medical system and to the actual
security of our Country.



Doug Kanter October 25th 05 07:09 PM

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"Skipper" wrote in message
...


BTW, do you support Christmas?


Do you mean buy things for christmas, or actually believe in it religiously?



Skipper October 25th 05 07:18 PM

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Harry Krause wrote:

Do you have any idea what illegal immigrants cost the US medical system
each day?


BTW, do you support Christmas?


What kind of dumbass question is that, Snipper?


They are simple questions going to the heart of the matter.

--
Skipper

Skipper October 25th 05 07:29 PM

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Harry Krause wrote:

BTW, do you support Christmas?


Do you mean buy things for christmas, or actually believe in it
religiously?


It's Snippy's pathetic way of "sniffing out" Jews. Really.


Not everything should be taken from your Jewish point of view, Krause.
Actually, elimination of Christmas is the Loony Left's position. Just
checking on your party loyalty.

We did note your failure to answer the query...and know what that meant.

--
Skipper

[email protected] October 25th 05 07:30 PM

What Happens if you're a Dem
 

Skipper wrote:
You stab the Pahlavi family in the back, turning Iran over to America
hating terrorists and eventually killing millions in a nuclear attack.

You turn America's pride, the Panama Canal over to leftists who give
control of the Canal over to America's avowed enemies in communist
China.


America's pride???? The last I knew, the Panama Canal was in.....Panama!


[email protected] October 25th 05 07:32 PM

What Happens if you're a Dem
 

Skipper wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:

Do you have any idea what illegal immigrants cost the US medical system
each day?


BTW, do you support Christmas?


What kind of dumbass question is that, Snipper?


They are simple questions going to the heart of the matter.



Do tell then, what does believing or not in Xmas have to do with the
cost of illegal immigrants in the US medical system?


Doug Kanter October 25th 05 07:38 PM

What Happens if you're a Dem
 

"Skipper" wrote in message
...
Harry Krause wrote:

BTW, do you support Christmas?


Do you mean buy things for christmas, or actually believe in it
religiously?


It's Snippy's pathetic way of "sniffing out" Jews. Really.


Not everything should be taken from your Jewish point of view, Krause.
Actually, elimination of Christmas is the Loony Left's position. Just
checking on your party loyalty.

We did note your failure to answer the query...and know what that meant.


I addressed the "query" at YOU, stupid. Answer it.



Smith Smithers October 25th 05 08:03 PM

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Harry,
You have been wishing Skipper would return for over a year now, I hope you
guys are playing nicely and having fun.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Skipper wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:

BTW, do you support Christmas?


Do you mean buy things for christmas, or actually believe in it
religiously?


It's Snippy's pathetic way of "sniffing out" Jews. Really.


Not everything should be taken from your Jewish point of view, Krause.
Actually, elimination of Christmas is the Loony Left's position. Just
checking on your party loyalty.

We did note your failure to answer the query...and know what that meant.

--
Skipper



My Jewish point of view?

That's interesting.

I've never given a thought to "eliminating" Christmas, Snippy, and I can't
say that I've ever encountered a Democrat who wants to eliminate it,
either. You must listen to some pretty wild hate radio out your way.

You're not trying to pass yourself off as a Christian, are you? You're far
too full of hate for that.

And what's your problem with people of the Jewish faith? There can't be
that many living in a bunghole like Derby, Kansas.




Skipper October 25th 05 08:16 PM

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Harry Krause wrote:

BTW, do you support Christmas?


I've never given a thought to "eliminating" Christmas, Snippy, and I
can't say that I've ever encountered a Democrat who wants to eliminate
it.


You're not trying to pass yourself off as a Christian, are you? You're
far too full of hate for that.


And what's your problem with people of the Jewish faith? There can't be
that many living in a bunghole like Derby, Kansas.


Danger, danger, Will Krause, DANGER!!!

--
Skipper

[email protected] October 25th 05 08:25 PM

What Happens if you're a Dem
 

Harry Krause wrote:
Skipper wrote:
You stab the Pahlavi family in the back, turning Iran over to America
hating terrorists and eventually killing millions in a nuclear attack.

You turn America's pride, the Panama Canal over to leftists who give
control of the Canal over to America's avowed enemies in communist
China.

You despise traditional American values.

You support the massive invasion of illegal aliens into the US and
making them legal voters. The weight of their presence sinks the US
medical system and forces jobs offshore.

--
Skipper



Another crock'o'crap from our Kansas Derby contestant.

1. The Shah was a brutal dictator, installed and supported by the CIA.
He needed to go. It's just too bad we supported him all those years and
as a result were not able to have any influence helping the Iranians
form a better government. But we were tainted.

2. I doubt Iran will flip a nuke our way, unless we attack or threaten
to attack first.

3. The Panama Canal was rightfully returned to Panama. As a country that
supports democracy, we have no business imposing our will on countries
that want their territory back.


More specifically, our *lease* was up.

You have to wonder what message it would have sent to the world if the
US had said, "We choose not to honor the original agreement. We're at
the end of the lease, but screw you- we ain't movin' out and you can't
make us."


[email protected] October 25th 05 08:30 PM

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wrote:
Skipper wrote:
You stab the Pahlavi family in the back, turning Iran over to America
hating terrorists and eventually killing millions in a nuclear attack.

You turn America's pride, the Panama Canal over to leftists who give
control of the Canal over to America's avowed enemies in communist
China.


America's pride???? The last I knew, the Panama Canal was in.....Panama!


Right you are. And the old antique is too narrow for most of the modern
merchant vessels and warships.


Skipper October 25th 05 09:02 PM

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wrote:

Right you are. And the old antique is too narrow...


The Right is right after all. It's those narrow-minded anti-American
Looney Lefties that have problems with getting it Right.

--
Skipper

Skipper October 25th 05 09:22 PM

What Happens if you're a Dem
 
Harry Krause wrote:

Try to ingest enough meds before you post here so that you come across
as close to rational, eh?


Remedial reading for Harry Krause only:

http://www.sagecommentary.com/pages/PF022304.html

--
Skipper

Doug Kanter October 25th 05 09:27 PM

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"Skipper" wrote in message
...
Harry Krause wrote:

Try to ingest enough meds before you post here so that you come across
as close to rational, eh?


Remedial reading for Harry Krause only:

http://www.sagecommentary.com/pages/PF022304.html

--
Skipper


Oops. I read it by accident.



Gorf October 25th 05 09:34 PM

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" *JimH*" wrote in message
. ..

"Skipper" wrote in message
...
Harry Krause wrote:

Another crock'o'crap from our Kansas Derby contestant.


The Shah was a brutal dictator, installed and supported by the CIA.


The Panama Canal was rightfully returned to Panama.


Your values, not mine, are destroying America.


The US medical system is sinking because it is woefully inefficent
and corrupt.


Do you have any idea what illegal immigrants cost the US medical system
each day?



And it is therefore a shame that Bush continues to ignore our borders. My
concern goes past the cost to the US medical system and to the actual
security of our Country.



Amen



Skipper October 25th 05 10:09 PM

What Happens if you're a Dem
 
Gorf wrote:

And it is therefore a shame that Bush continues to ignore our
borders. My concern goes past the cost to the US medical system
and to the actual security of our Country.


Amen


It's best not to underestimate the total damage that's been done to our
country by allowing illegal aliens to abuse our medical system. Someone
has to pay for this abuse. Bottom line, we ALL do. The hospitals jack up
their rates to compensate...insurance companies jack up their
rates...employers are forced to pay exhorbinant premiums or send the
work out of the country...a vicious spiral. It costs us jobs and lowers
our mean standard of living.

--
Skipper

Doug Kanter October 25th 05 10:17 PM

What Happens if you're a Dem
 

"Skipper" wrote in message
...
Gorf wrote:

And it is therefore a shame that Bush continues to ignore our
borders. My concern goes past the cost to the US medical system
and to the actual security of our Country.


Amen


It's best not to underestimate the total damage that's been done to our
country by allowing illegal aliens to abuse our medical system. Someone
has to pay for this abuse. Bottom line, we ALL do. The hospitals jack up
their rates to compensate...insurance companies jack up their
rates...employers are forced to pay exhorbinant premiums or send the
work out of the country...a vicious spiral. It costs us jobs and lowers
our mean standard of living.

--
Skipper


Are your kids or grandkids ready to pick vegetables for minimum wage? How
about you?



*JimH* October 25th 05 10:26 PM

What Happens if you're a Dem
 

"Skipper" wrote in message
...
Gorf wrote:

And it is therefore a shame that Bush continues to ignore our
borders. My concern goes past the cost to the US medical system
and directly to the actual security of our Country.


Amen


It's best not to underestimate the total damage that's been done to our
country by allowing illegal aliens to abuse our medical system. Someone
has to pay for this abuse. Bottom line, we ALL do. The hospitals jack up
their rates to compensate...insurance companies jack up their
rates...employers are forced to pay exhorbinant premiums or send the
work out of the country...a vicious spiral. It costs us jobs and lowers
our mean standard of living.

--
Skipper


You have a valid point but...........do not underestimate the total damage
that potentially can be done to our Country from terrorist attacks by
illegal aliens crossing our borders unrestricted.

Maybe we are both preaching to the choir.........as long as you admit the
Bush has done nothing to tighten up security at our borders.



*JimH* October 25th 05 10:31 PM

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" *JimH*" wrote in message
...

"Skipper" wrote in message
...
Gorf wrote:

And it is therefore a shame that Bush continues to ignore our
borders. My concern goes past the cost to the US medical system
and directly to the actual security of our Country.


Amen


It's best not to underestimate the total damage that's been done to our
country by allowing illegal aliens to abuse our medical system. Someone
has to pay for this abuse. Bottom line, we ALL do. The hospitals jack up
their rates to compensate...insurance companies jack up their
rates...employers are forced to pay exhorbinant premiums or send the
work out of the country...a vicious spiral. It costs us jobs and lowers
our mean standard of living.

--
Skipper


You have a valid point but...........do not underestimate the total damage
that potentially can be done to our Country from terrorist attacks by
illegal aliens crossing our borders unrestricted.

Maybe we are both preaching to the choir.........as long as you admit that
Bush has done nothing to tighten up security at our borders.



edit..."....that Bush..." not "...the Bush...."

Freudian slip?



Gorf October 25th 05 11:10 PM

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"Skipper" wrote in message
...
Gorf wrote:

And it is therefore a shame that Bush continues to ignore our
borders. My concern goes past the cost to the US medical system
and to the actual security of our Country.


Amen


It's best not to underestimate the total damage that's been done to our
country by allowing illegal aliens to abuse our medical system. Someone
has to pay for this abuse. Bottom line, we ALL do. The hospitals jack up
their rates to compensate...insurance companies jack up their
rates...employers are forced to pay exhorbinant premiums or send the
work out of the country...a vicious spiral. It costs us jobs and lowers
our mean standard of living.

--
Skipper


And what has GWB's response been? Cut Medicaid instead of addressing the
real issue of illegal immigration.

The truth is GWB is a "cheap labor conservative", he does not want to stem
the flow of cheap labor into this country - in fact he called the volunteer
Minute men "Vigilantes". He wants "high priced" American workers to have
compete with illegal aliens for jobs. You are right this will definitely
lower our standard of living.

The biggest threat is from terrorists just walking across the border with a
dirty bomb on their back - it is only a mattter of time!



Don White October 25th 05 11:11 PM

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wrote:
wrote:

Skipper wrote:

You stab the Pahlavi family in the back, turning Iran over to America
hating terrorists and eventually killing millions in a nuclear attack.

You turn America's pride, the Panama Canal over to leftists who give
control of the Canal over to America's avowed enemies in communist
China.


America's pride???? The last I knew, the Panama Canal was in.....Panama!



Right you are. And the old antique is too narrow for most of the modern
merchant vessels and warships.

You seeing a lot of the 'Post Panamax' vessels out your way Chuck?
A few years ago people here were all excited about bigger cranes, enough
water at the docks etc for these big container ships. Saw a few here
but no flood of them.

Skipper October 26th 05 01:14 AM

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*JimH* wrote:

It's best not to underestimate the total damage that's been done to our
country by allowing illegal aliens to abuse our medical system. Someone
has to pay for this abuse. Bottom line, we ALL do. The hospitals jack up
their rates to compensate...insurance companies jack up their
rates...employers are forced to pay exhorbinant premiums or send the
work out of the country...a vicious spiral. It costs us jobs and lowers
our mean standard of living.


You have a valid point but...........do not underestimate the total damage
that potentially can be done to our Country from terrorist attacks by
illegal aliens crossing our borders unrestricted.


Maybe we are both preaching to the choir.........as long as you admit the
Bush has done nothing to tighten up security at our borders.


Bush is an idiot with some kind of sinister agreement with Fox...but
he's our idiot and far better than ANYTHING the Dems have produced.
Honestly, do we want a return of someone even worse than Carter? Hillary
is a Lefty Looney.

--
Skipper

Skipper October 26th 05 01:24 AM

What Happens if you're a Dem
 
Gorf wrote:

It's best not to underestimate the total damage that's been done to our
country by allowing illegal aliens to abuse our medical system. Someone
has to pay for this abuse. Bottom line, we ALL do. The hospitals jack up
their rates to compensate...insurance companies jack up their
rates...employers are forced to pay exhorbinant premiums or send the
work out of the country...a vicious spiral. It costs us jobs and lowers
our mean standard of living.


And what has GWB's response been?


Conservative Republicans offer the best chance to remedy the situation.
The Looney Left wants the illegal's vote, and will continue to give the
world free medical care, drivers licenses,etc.. McCain is no solution
and Hillary is worse.

--
Skipper

Skipper October 26th 05 01:30 AM

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Harry Krause wrote:

He's not my idiot; he's your idiot. I never voted for him. And, as far
as being a better POTUS than Gore or Kerry might have been, we'll just
never know. I feel Gore would have been far better, but I really don't
know that much about Kerry.


Dumbocrats are idiots and have no real monetary, budgetary, or foreign
policy. The current crop of Repubs is little better, but they do offer
the better option.

--
Skipper

Doug Kanter October 26th 05 02:40 AM

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"Skipper" wrote in message
...
*JimH* wrote:

It's best not to underestimate the total damage that's been done to our
country by allowing illegal aliens to abuse our medical system. Someone
has to pay for this abuse. Bottom line, we ALL do. The hospitals jack up
their rates to compensate...insurance companies jack up their
rates...employers are forced to pay exhorbinant premiums or send the
work out of the country...a vicious spiral. It costs us jobs and lowers
our mean standard of living.


You have a valid point but...........do not underestimate the total
damage
that potentially can be done to our Country from terrorist attacks by
illegal aliens crossing our borders unrestricted.


Maybe we are both preaching to the choir.........as long as you admit the
Bush has done nothing to tighten up security at our borders.


Bush is an idiot with some kind of sinister agreement with Fox...but
he's our idiot and far better than ANYTHING the Dems have produced.
Honestly, do we want a return of someone even worse than Carter? Hillary
is a Lefty Looney.

--
Skipper


Our idiot? Let me ask you this: Are you the type that's loyal to
***ANYONE*** who's elected president, even someone severely retarded?



Doug Kanter October 26th 05 02:41 AM

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"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 20:22:54 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Skipper wrote:

Bush is an idiot with some kind of sinister agreement with Fox...but
he's our idiot and far better than ANYTHING the Dems have produced.
Honestly, do we want a return of someone even worse than Carter? Hillary
is a Lefty Looney.


He's not my idiot; he's your idiot. I never voted for him. And, as far
as being a better POTUS than Gore or Kerry might have been, we'll just
never know. I feel Gore would have been far better, but I really don't
know that much about Kerry.


In my own heart of hearts, I think Vice President Gore would have been
acceptable in that detached, intellectual kind of way. I don't think
he would have been elected to a second term - the American people
would have gotten tired of him very quickly.

Senator Kerry on the other hand would have been a disaster. Quite
beyond the fake hero crap, he is a ditherer and quite frankly, has
literally done nothing in his Senate career except take up space and
marry a former colleagues wife. He is the Democratic version of Dan
Quayle.

What scares me about Senator Clinton isn't the fact that she is
leftist looney or trying to position herself as a centrist - which is
laughable on the face of it - but her "husband", former President
Clinton. The competition between the two of them for face time would
be incredible to watch and I don't think the country could stand it.


zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz......................



Doug Kanter October 26th 05 02:42 AM

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"Skipper" wrote in message
...
Gorf wrote:

It's best not to underestimate the total damage that's been done to our
country by allowing illegal aliens to abuse our medical system. Someone
has to pay for this abuse. Bottom line, we ALL do. The hospitals jack up
their rates to compensate...insurance companies jack up their
rates...employers are forced to pay exhorbinant premiums or send the
work out of the country...a vicious spiral. It costs us jobs and lowers
our mean standard of living.


And what has GWB's response been?


Conservative Republicans offer the best chance to remedy the situation.
The Looney Left wants the illegal's vote, and will continue to give the
world free medical care, drivers licenses,etc.. McCain is no solution
and Hillary is worse.

--
Skipper


What country buys virtually all of the oil Mexico doesn't need for its own
use, and at nice, low prices?



Gorf October 26th 05 03:28 AM

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"Skipper" wrote in message
...
Gorf wrote:

It's best not to underestimate the total damage that's been done to our
country by allowing illegal aliens to abuse our medical system. Someone
has to pay for this abuse. Bottom line, we ALL do. The hospitals jack

up
their rates to compensate...insurance companies jack up their
rates...employers are forced to pay exhorbinant premiums or send the
work out of the country...a vicious spiral. It costs us jobs and lowers
our mean standard of living.


And what has GWB's response been?


Conservative Republicans offer the best chance to remedy the situation.
The Looney Left wants the illegal's vote, and will continue to give the
world free medical care, drivers licenses,etc.. McCain is no solution
and Hillary is worse.

--
Skipper


actually because of GWB not wanting to deport the illegal aliens, and the
fact that they are strict Catholics, they primarily support the
republicans - not democrats. Bush passed a law making allowing illegal
aliens to collect Social security - think you better take your blinders off
and actually do some reading........

As far as Hilary - if she is nominated by the democrats, they will be handed
another loss.



Gorf October 26th 05 03:32 AM

What Happens if you're a Dem
 

"Skipper" wrote in message
...
Harry Krause wrote:

He's not my idiot; he's your idiot. I never voted for him. And, as far
as being a better POTUS than Gore or Kerry might have been, we'll just
never know. I feel Gore would have been far better, but I really don't
know that much about Kerry.


Dumbocrats are idiots and have no real monetary, budgetary, or foreign
policy. The current crop of Repubs is little better, but they do offer
the better option.

--
Skipper


Take a look at the facts and tell us who has better monitary policy.

http://zfacts.com/p/318.html



Doug Kanter October 26th 05 04:07 AM

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"Gorf" wrote in message
. com...

"Skipper" wrote in message
...
Gorf wrote:

It's best not to underestimate the total damage that's been done to
our
country by allowing illegal aliens to abuse our medical system.
Someone
has to pay for this abuse. Bottom line, we ALL do. The hospitals jack

up
their rates to compensate...insurance companies jack up their
rates...employers are forced to pay exhorbinant premiums or send the
work out of the country...a vicious spiral. It costs us jobs and
lowers
our mean standard of living.


And what has GWB's response been?


Conservative Republicans offer the best chance to remedy the situation.
The Looney Left wants the illegal's vote, and will continue to give the
world free medical care, drivers licenses,etc.. McCain is no solution
and Hillary is worse.

--
Skipper


actually because of GWB not wanting to deport the illegal aliens, and the
fact that they are strict Catholics, they primarily support the
republicans - not democrats. Bush passed a law making allowing illegal
aliens to collect Social security - think you better take your blinders
off
and actually do some reading........

As far as Hilary - if she is nominated by the democrats, they will be
handed
another loss.


I'm not so sure about that. It's fine points that detract from most
candidates. If she learns to shut her friggin' mouth about certain hot
button issues, like gun control, she might actually have a chance.



Skipper October 26th 05 05:42 AM

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wrote:

You turn America's pride, the Panama Canal over to leftists who give
control of the Canal over to America's avowed enemies in communist
China.


3. The Panama Canal was rightfully returned to Panama. As a country that
supports democracy, we have no business imposing our will on countries
that want their territory back.


More specifically, our *lease* was up.


You have to wonder what message it would have sent to the world if the
US had said, "We choose not to honor the original agreement. We're at
the end of the lease, but screw you- we ain't movin' out and you can't
make us."


BS, more specifically, more Looney Left BS. Lyndon B. Johnson abrogated
the original treaty in 1964-65, setting up the full giveaway by Jimmy
Carter in 1977. And Carter gave it to a non-elected leftist dictator
(his favorite kind of leader). The DEMOCRATS did us in!!!

http://www.answers.com/topic/torrijos-carter-treaties

http://www.historychannel.com/speech...peech_145.html

Bottom line...as John Frank Stevens said, Lefty Loonies BS, more
specifically, more Looney Left BS. Lyndon B. Johnson abrogated the
original treaty in 1964-65, setting up the full giveaway by Jimmy Carter
in 1977. And Carter gave it to a non-elected leftist dictator (his
favorite kind of leader).

http://www.answers.com/topic/torrijos-carter-treaties

http://www.historychannel.com/speech...peech_145.html

Bottom line...as John Frank Stevens said, Lefty Loonies exhibit the
worst disease...cold feet!

--------

John Frank Stevens was recognized as the world's foremost railway civil
engineer when he arrived on the Isthmus in 1905. Tall, broad-shouldered,
tough, the new Chief Engineer met no reception formalities. The wharves
were crowded with scared, quiet men waiting to return to the States on
the very ship he came on.

The fundamental problem that he faced was one of restoring confidence
and morale. Health came first. The men needed food supplies and markets,
decent living quarters, relief from the drab existence in the form of
social rooms and entertainment. One of his first ideas, and a most happy
one, was that of the food car. Stevens found the men were actually
hungry, and the men found that they had a boss who took a personal
interest in their welfare. With the food came some strong talk. Dressed
like the men, Chief Engineer Stevens stood among them, spoke their blunt
language, rubbed their elbows.

"There are only three diseases on the Isthmus," he charged into them,
"yellow fever, malaria, and cold feet. The worst is cold feet. That's
what's ailing you." It was the scolding they needed. Groups began
arguing themselves into staying a little longer. Some good might come
out of the chaos yet.

--
Skipper

Skipper October 26th 05 06:12 AM

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BTW, the original treaty the U.S. signed in 1903 gave it the rights to
build and operate the canal *for perpetuity*. The agreement also gave
the U.S. the
right to govern the 10-mile wide, 40-mile long strip of land around the
canal, called the Panama Canal Zone.

It was poor leadership by Democrats that cost us OUR canal.

--
Skipper

Smith Smithers October 26th 05 11:45 AM

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Nationalism came back to haunt the United States. With the
treaty signed and a 99-year lease given to the United States, the
Canal was built. Since then, the United States has varied on its
stance of ownership and the principles of sovereignty concerning the
Canal. The ever persistent debate of who owns the Canal and who should
have sovereign control over it, has not been solved. The United States
has occasionally attempted to "claim" the Canal zone through various
methods such as military occupation, exclusion of Panamanians for
important jobs in Canal operations and even through the customary
aspect of international law. However, each time the Panamanians have
managed to maintain claim to the Canal despite the United State's
imperialistic posturing to get it.

http://www.cyberessays.com/History/121.htm



"Skipper" wrote in message
...
BTW, the original treaty the U.S. signed in 1903 gave it the rights to
build and operate the canal *for perpetuity*. The agreement also gave
the U.S. the
right to govern the 10-mile wide, 40-mile long strip of land around the
canal, called the Panama Canal Zone.

It was poor leadership by Democrats that cost us OUR canal.

--
Skipper





Doug Kanter October 26th 05 12:32 PM

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"Skipper" wrote in message
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And Carter gave it to a non-elected leftist dictator
(his favorite kind of leader). The DEMOCRATS did us in!!!


You must cum in your mom's hand every time you see the picture of Donald
Rumsfeld shaking hands with Saddam Hussein.



Skipper October 26th 05 01:10 PM

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Smith Smithers wrote:

wrote:


BTW, the original treaty the U.S. signed in 1903 gave it the rights
to build and operate the canal *for perpetuity*. The agreement also
gave the U.S. the right to govern the 10-mile wide, 40-mile long
strip of land around the canal, called the Panama Canal Zone.


It was poor leadership by Democrats that cost us OUR canal.


With the treaty signed and a 99-year lease given to the United States, the
Canal was built.


The original agreement seeded the canal "in perpetuity", not just 99
years. Do not fall for the Looney Left's spin. They always take the
position, America last.

--
Skipper

Skipper October 26th 05 01:16 PM

What Happens if you're a Dem
 
Doug Kanter wrote:

"Skipper" wrote in message
...


And Carter gave it to a non-elected leftist dictator
(his favorite kind of leader). The DEMOCRATS did us in!!!


You must cum in your mom's hand every time you see the picture of Donald
Rumsfeld shaking hands with Saddam Hussein.


Just presenting a little 'no spin zone' phactual data to the Loonies who
have hijacked this NG.

--
Skipper

Doug Kanter October 26th 05 02:05 PM

What Happens if you're a Dem
 

"Skipper" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:

"Skipper" wrote in message
...


And Carter gave it to a non-elected leftist dictator
(his favorite kind of leader). The DEMOCRATS did us in!!!


You must cum in your mom's hand every time you see the picture of Donald
Rumsfeld shaking hands with Saddam Hussein.


Just presenting a little 'no spin zone' phactual data to the Loonies who
have hijacked this NG.


Confess to knowing that your presidents papa was in bed with Saddam, even
before he was president. Confess now, infidel.



Gorf October 26th 05 02:37 PM

What Happens if you're a Dem
 

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...



As far as Hilary - if she is nominated by the democrats, they will be
handed
another loss.


I'm not so sure about that. It's fine points that detract from most
candidates. If she learns to shut her friggin' mouth about certain hot
button issues, like gun control, she might actually have a chance.



I firmly believe the US is not ready for a woman or black president. All
peoples prejudices will come bubbling up and either would lose. I mean look
at the last election, it was well known that Bush was liar and incompetent,
he had lost more jobs during his first term in office than any other
president, he had the largest deficit in history and he had more votes
AGAINST him than any other president in history. But the brain-washed
holier-than-thou crowd turned out even more people!
IMO Hillary would get CREAMED!




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