On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 07:44:02 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote:


90% of the "independent" media you speak of is biased to the left.

Only 90% ? A little simplistic, don't you think? No one speaks with an
objective voice, and the media in this country doesn't speak with one
voice. Is Rush biased left? What about NewsMax? Fox News?

Labeling media is a way of trivializing it. Propaganda spinners have used
the trick for years. It doesn't flush. Media has always spoken with many
voices. If you are truly looking for bias, you might consider left/right
isn't the only bias.

http://rhetorica.net/bias.htm

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On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 07:44:02 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote:


90% of the "independent" media you speak of is biased to the left.

Only 90% ? A little simplistic, don't you think? No one speaks with an
objective voice, and the media in this country doesn't speak with one
voice. Is Rush biased left? What about NewsMax? Fox News?

Labeling media is a way of trivializing it. Propaganda spinners have used
the trick for years. It doesn't flush. Media has always spoken with many
voices. If you are truly looking for bias, you might consider left/right
isn't the only bias.

http://rhetorica.net/bias.htm

True true, but until you acknowledge the bias and see it as bias you are not
getting a real view of the world. Those of us on the right acknowledge the
bias of Fox News, but those on the left don't think that the other news
medias lean to the left. That's a serious problem!!

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On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 07:44:02 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote:


90% of the "independent" media you speak of is biased to the left.

Only 90% ? A little simplistic, don't you think? No one speaks with
an
objective voice, and the media in this country doesn't speak with one
voice. Is Rush biased left? What about NewsMax? Fox News?

Labeling media is a way of trivializing it. Propaganda spinners have
used
the trick for years. It doesn't flush. Media has always spoken with
many
voices. If you are truly looking for bias, you might consider
left/right
isn't the only bias.

http://rhetorica.net/bias.htm

True true, but until you acknowledge the bias and see it as bias you are
not
getting a real view of the world. Those of us on the right acknowledge
the
bias of Fox News, but those on the left don't think that the other news
medias lean to the left. That's a serious problem!!

What is funny is how the liebrals continue to lump talk show hosts and news
reporters in the same group.......it is the only way to give any sort of
validity to their position.

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On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 07:44:02 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote:


90% of the "independent" media you speak of is biased to the left.

Only 90% ? A little simplistic, don't you think? No one speaks with an
objective voice, and the media in this country doesn't speak with one
voice. Is Rush biased left? What about NewsMax? Fox News?

Labeling media is a way of trivializing it. Propaganda spinners have
used
the trick for years. It doesn't flush. Media has always spoken with
many
voices. If you are truly looking for bias, you might consider left/right
isn't the only bias.

http://rhetorica.net/bias.htm

True true, but until you acknowledge the bias and see it as bias you are
not getting a real view of the world. Those of us on the right
acknowledge the bias of Fox News, but those on the left don't think that
the other news medias lean to the left. That's a serious problem!!


A more serious problem is that many people who think "the media" is
left-biased never actually read or listen to those media, and are simply
repeating what they've been told to. For instance, rumor has it that NPR
rarely, if ever mentions anything positive about Iraq. That's odd, because I
hear them mention something positive at least a couple of times a week. Are
the droolers listening to a totally different NPR Morning Edition than I am?
Of course not. They simply don't listen.

Another example: I believe it was April of 2004 when a drooler in rec.guns
demanded that no self-respecting gun owner support public radio because they
never ran stories about hunting or fishing. Bull****. I searched their site.
There had been six or seven stories since the beginning of the year, all of
them completely positive. Again, the droolers don't listen.

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On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 07:44:02 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote:


90% of the "independent" media you speak of is biased to the left.

Only 90% ? A little simplistic, don't you think? No one speaks with
an
objective voice, and the media in this country doesn't speak with one
voice. Is Rush biased left? What about NewsMax? Fox News?

Labeling media is a way of trivializing it. Propaganda spinners have
used
the trick for years. It doesn't flush. Media has always spoken with
many
voices. If you are truly looking for bias, you might consider
left/right
isn't the only bias.

http://rhetorica.net/bias.htm

True true, but until you acknowledge the bias and see it as bias you are
not getting a real view of the world. Those of us on the right
acknowledge the bias of Fox News, but those on the left don't think that
the other news medias lean to the left. That's a serious problem!!


A more serious problem is that many people who think "the media" is
left-biased never actually read or listen to those media, and are simply
repeating what they've been told to. For instance, rumor has it that NPR
rarely, if ever mentions anything positive about Iraq. That's odd, because
I hear them mention something positive at least a couple of times a week.
Are the droolers listening to a totally different NPR Morning Edition than
I am? Of course not. They simply don't listen.

How many times a week does NPR say negative things about Iraq? I'd be
willing to bet it is a larger number more than "a couple of times a week."

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On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 07:44:02 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote:


90% of the "independent" media you speak of is biased to the left.

Only 90% ? A little simplistic, don't you think? No one speaks with
an
objective voice, and the media in this country doesn't speak with one
voice. Is Rush biased left? What about NewsMax? Fox News?

Labeling media is a way of trivializing it. Propaganda spinners have
used
the trick for years. It doesn't flush. Media has always spoken with
many
voices. If you are truly looking for bias, you might consider
left/right
isn't the only bias.

http://rhetorica.net/bias.htm

True true, but until you acknowledge the bias and see it as bias you are
not getting a real view of the world. Those of us on the right
acknowledge the bias of Fox News, but those on the left don't think that
the other news medias lean to the left. That's a serious problem!!


A more serious problem is that many people who think "the media" is
left-biased never actually read or listen to those media, and are simply
repeating what they've been told to. For instance, rumor has it that NPR
rarely, if ever mentions anything positive about Iraq. That's odd,
because I hear them mention something positive at least a couple of times
a week. Are the droolers listening to a totally different NPR Morning
Edition than I am? Of course not. They simply don't listen.

How many times a week does NPR say negative things about Iraq? I'd be
willing to bet it is a larger number more than "a couple of times a week."

Why don't you listen and find out. You might learn something.

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On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 07:44:02 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote:


90% of the "independent" media you speak of is biased to the left.

Only 90% ? A little simplistic, don't you think? No one speaks with
an
objective voice, and the media in this country doesn't speak with one
voice. Is Rush biased left? What about NewsMax? Fox News?

Labeling media is a way of trivializing it. Propaganda spinners have
used
the trick for years. It doesn't flush. Media has always spoken with
many
voices. If you are truly looking for bias, you might consider
left/right
isn't the only bias.

http://rhetorica.net/bias.htm

True true, but until you acknowledge the bias and see it as bias you
are not getting a real view of the world. Those of us on the right
acknowledge the bias of Fox News, but those on the left don't think
that the other news medias lean to the left. That's a serious
problem!!


A more serious problem is that many people who think "the media" is
left-biased never actually read or listen to those media, and are simply
repeating what they've been told to. For instance, rumor has it that NPR
rarely, if ever mentions anything positive about Iraq. That's odd,
because I hear them mention something positive at least a couple of
times a week. Are the droolers listening to a totally different NPR
Morning Edition than I am? Of course not. They simply don't listen.

How many times a week does NPR say negative things about Iraq? I'd be
willing to bet it is a larger number more than "a couple of times a
week."

Why don't you listen and find out. You might learn something.

I don't have time to waste listening to the DNC's only radio outlet.

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On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 07:44:02 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote:


90% of the "independent" media you speak of is biased to the left.

Only 90% ? A little simplistic, don't you think? No one speaks
with an
objective voice, and the media in this country doesn't speak with
one
voice. Is Rush biased left? What about NewsMax? Fox News?

Labeling media is a way of trivializing it. Propaganda spinners have
used
the trick for years. It doesn't flush. Media has always spoken with
many
voices. If you are truly looking for bias, you might consider
left/right
isn't the only bias.

http://rhetorica.net/bias.htm

True true, but until you acknowledge the bias and see it as bias you
are not getting a real view of the world. Those of us on the right
acknowledge the bias of Fox News, but those on the left don't think
that the other news medias lean to the left. That's a serious
problem!!


A more serious problem is that many people who think "the media" is
left-biased never actually read or listen to those media, and are
simply repeating what they've been told to. For instance, rumor has it
that NPR rarely, if ever mentions anything positive about Iraq. That's
odd, because I hear them mention something positive at least a couple
of times a week. Are the droolers listening to a totally different NPR
Morning Edition than I am? Of course not. They simply don't listen.

How many times a week does NPR say negative things about Iraq? I'd be
willing to bet it is a larger number more than "a couple of times a
week."

Why don't you listen and find out. You might learn something.

I don't have time to waste listening to the DNC's only radio outlet.



Fine. Then shut your cake hole. You've just admitted to repeating what
someone else told you to say about certain media. If you don't listen, you
cannot possibly know what they broadcast.

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On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 07:44:02 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote:


90% of the "independent" media you speak of is biased to the left.

Only 90% ? A little simplistic, don't you think? No one speaks with an
objective voice, and the media in this country doesn't speak with one
voice. Is Rush biased left? What about NewsMax? Fox News?

Simplistic? No. Realistic? Yes.

Rush is not a journalist and he doesn't claim to be one either.

NewsMax is biased towards the right and Fox News is towards the right side
of the middle of the road. If Fox News was just another left leaning cable
network then nobody would ever watch them. Fox News leans to the right to be
different and to get noticed.

Labeling media is a way of trivializing it. Propaganda spinners have used
the trick for years. It doesn't flush. Media has always spoken with many
voices. If you are truly looking for bias, you might consider left/right
isn't the only bias.

The media has trivialized itself in that they are, for the most part, trying
to be a part of the Democratic Party.