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It just gets sadder, and sadder. The truly sad thing is, that the right
wing lemmings here will somehow act like this isn't a big deal! Report: U.S. Troops Burned Taliban Bodies By MERAIAH FOLEY, Associated Press Writer Wednesday, October 19, 2005 Printable Version Email This Article (10-19) 22:12 PDT SYDNEY, Australia (AP) -- The U.S. military said Wednesday it was investigating a report carried on an Australian television network that claimed American soldiers in Afghanistan burned the bodies of two Taliban fighters and then used the action to taunt other Islamic militants. The SBS television network broadcast video footage that purportedly showed U.S. soldiers burning the bodies of the suspected Taliban fighters in the hills outside the southern village of Gonbaz, near the former Taliban stronghold of Kandahar. The network said the footage was taken by a freelance journalist, Stephen Dupont, who told The Associated Press he was embedded with the 173rd Airborne Brigade of the U.S. Army earlier this month. Dupont said the burnings happened on Oct. 1. In the footage, which was seen by the AP, two soldiers who spoke with American accents later read taunting messages that the SBS said were broadcast to the village, which was believed to be harboring Taliban soldiers. Dupont said the soldiers responsible for the taunting messages were part of a U.S. Army psychological operations unit. The U.S. military said the Army Criminal Investigation Division had opened an investigation into alleged misconduct that included "the burning of dead enemy combatant bodies under inappropriate circumstances." "This command takes all allegations of misconduct or inappropriate behavior seriously and has directed an investigation into circumstances surrounding this allegation," Maj. Gen. Jason Kamiya said in a statement the U.S. base in Bagram, Afghanistan. Shortly after the bodies were burned, the soldiers from the psychological operations unit allegedly read out taunting messages about the act over a loudspeaker to the nearby village, according to a transcript of the program. "Taliban, you are all cowardly dogs. You allowed your fighters to be laid down facing west and burned. You are too scared to come down and retrieve their bodies," said one message read by a soldier, according to the transcript. The footage did not show the messages being broadcast, though it did show some military vehicles were fitted with speakers and playing loud music. Dupont told the AP the messages had been broadcast in the local dialect but were translated into English for him by members of the Army psychological operations unit. He declined to provide further information, however, saying his agent was now handling all queries about the footage. Cremation of bodies is not part of Islamic tradition, which calls for remains to be washed, prayed over, wrapped in white cloth and buried within 24 hours. Dupont said the soldiers who burned the bodies said they did so for hygiene reasons. However, Dupont said the incendiary messages later broadcast by the U.S. army psychological operations unit indicated they were aware that the cremation would be perceived as a desecration. "They used that as a psychological warfare, I guess you'd call it. They used the fact that the Taliban were burned facing west (toward Mecca)," Dupont told SBS. "They deliberately wanted to incite that much anger from the Taliban so the Taliban could attack them ... . That's the only way they can find them." Ameer Ali, the head of the Australian Federation of Islamic Councils, said burning a body would be considered a desecration in the Islamic faith. The SBS report suggested the deliberate burning of bodies could violate the Geneva Conventions governing the treatment of enemy remains in wartime. Under the Geneva Conventions, soldiers must ensure that the "dead are honorably interred, if possible according to the rites of the religion to which they belonged." Furthermore, the rules state that bodies should not be cremated, "except for imperative reasons of hygiene or for motives based on the religion of the deceased." |
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When you see the pics Guzzi-boy then believe it.
if rules are broken, then hold the breakers accountable. No spin about it Caesarhead. |
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Harry,
Are you hectoring JohnH again? "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... PocoLoco wrote: On 20 Oct 2005 05:08:13 -0700, presented the group with another cut'n'paste, which he may not have read. Kevin, perhaps you should post it another half dozen times. Have you discussed your potty training with an adult in your life? How can you make comments about another's wife, yet go bananas when someone mentions either of your parents? Do you see any logic in this? -- John H Pot, kettle, black. |
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On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 09:46:12 -0400, "The One and Only Smithers"
wrote: Harry, Are you hectoring JohnH again? "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... PocoLoco wrote: On 20 Oct 2005 05:08:13 -0700, presented the group with another cut'n'paste, which he may not have read. Kevin, perhaps you should post it another half dozen times. Have you discussed your potty training with an adult in your life? How can you make comments about another's wife, yet go bananas when someone mentions either of your parents? Do you see any logic in this? -- John H Pot, kettle, black. Hee, hee. Makes no sense, but cute. Do you reckon he memorized the rest of O'Reilly from night before last? -- John H "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant: It's just that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan |
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"PocoLoco" wrote in message ... On 20 Oct 2005 05:08:13 -0700, presented the group with another cut'n'paste, which he may not have read. Kevin, perhaps you should post it another half dozen times. Have you discussed your potty training with an adult in your life? How can you make comments about another's wife, yet go bananas when someone mentions either of your parents? Do you see any logic in this? Kevin is "Stuck on Stupid" -- John H "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant: It's just that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan |
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Harry is cute isn't he, Kevin and Harry bring joy to all who reads their
words of wit. ; ) Is it just me, or have you noticed that both Kevin and Harry seems to harbor some very deep seated anger. "PocoLoco" wrote in message ... On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 09:46:12 -0400, "The One and Only Smithers" wrote: Harry, Are you hectoring JohnH again? "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... PocoLoco wrote: On 20 Oct 2005 05:08:13 -0700, presented the group with another cut'n'paste, which he may not have read. Kevin, perhaps you should post it another half dozen times. Have you discussed your potty training with an adult in your life? How can you make comments about another's wife, yet go bananas when someone mentions either of your parents? Do you see any logic in this? -- John H Pot, kettle, black. Hee, hee. Makes no sense, but cute. Do you reckon he memorized the rest of O'Reilly from night before last? -- John H "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant: It's just that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan |
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On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 09:54:33 -0400, "P Fritz"
wrote: "PocoLoco" wrote in message .. . On 20 Oct 2005 05:08:13 -0700, presented the group with another cut'n'paste, which he may not have read. Kevin, perhaps you should post it another half dozen times. Have you discussed your potty training with an adult in your life? How can you make comments about another's wife, yet go bananas when someone mentions either of your parents? Do you see any logic in this? Kevin is "Stuck on Stupid" Well, I'm trying not to get into calling names, but he sure does make it rough. I honestly believe he can work through some of his problems with the right help. I would like to see some of his liberal friends giving him some help also, but I can understand their reluctance to do so. He'd probably start calling them names also! -- John H "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant: It's just that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan |
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On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 10:02:44 -0400, "The One and Only Smithers"
wrote: Harry is cute isn't he, Kevin and Harry bring joy to all who reads their words of wit. ; ) Is it just me, or have you noticed that both Kevin and Harry seems to harbor some very deep seated anger. I know you may have some doubts about my ability to diagnose psychological problems, but I *did* minor in Psychology. Therefore, I will say again, the problem is their potty training. The anger they demonstrate here is totally misdirected, unless one of us was involved in their potty training. I wasn't. Were you? -- John H "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant: It's just that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan |
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"PocoLoco" wrote in message ... On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 09:54:33 -0400, "P Fritz" wrote: "PocoLoco" wrote in message .. . On 20 Oct 2005 05:08:13 -0700, presented the group with another cut'n'paste, which he may not have read. Kevin, perhaps you should post it another half dozen times. Have you discussed your potty training with an adult in your life? How can you make comments about another's wife, yet go bananas when someone mentions either of your parents? Do you see any logic in this? Kevin is "Stuck on Stupid" Well, I'm trying not to get into calling names, but he sure does make it rough. I honestly believe he can work through some of his problems with the right help. I would like to see some of his liberal friends giving him some help also, but I can understand their reluctance to do so. He'd probably start calling them names also! I've run into the "kevin types" many times before.......there seems to be a lot of them in the construction trades.....the name calling and threats of physical violence is all they have. -- John H "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant: It's just that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan |
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You are sasuming they were trained :-)
The way kevin soils himslef in this NG, I sometimes have my doubts. "PocoLoco" wrote in message ... On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 10:02:44 -0400, "The One and Only Smithers" wrote: Harry is cute isn't he, Kevin and Harry bring joy to all who reads their words of wit. ; ) Is it just me, or have you noticed that both Kevin and Harry seems to harbor some very deep seated anger. I know you may have some doubts about my ability to diagnose psychological problems, but I *did* minor in Psychology. Therefore, I will say again, the problem is their potty training. The anger they demonstrate here is totally misdirected, unless one of us was involved in their potty training. I wasn't. Were you? -- John H "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant: It's just that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan |
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No, so it must be misdirected anger.
"PocoLoco" wrote in message ... On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 10:02:44 -0400, "The One and Only Smithers" wrote: Harry is cute isn't he, Kevin and Harry bring joy to all who reads their words of wit. ; ) Is it just me, or have you noticed that both Kevin and Harry seems to harbor some very deep seated anger. I know you may have some doubts about my ability to diagnose psychological problems, but I *did* minor in Psychology. Therefore, I will say again, the problem is their potty training. The anger they demonstrate here is totally misdirected, unless one of us was involved in their potty training. I wasn't. Were you? -- John H "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant: It's just that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan |
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wrote in message oups.com... It just gets sadder, and sadder. The truly sad thing is, that the right wing lemmings here will somehow act like this isn't a big deal! I am not a right wing lemming, more of a centrist, and this is not a big deal. |
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wrote in message oups.com... Dupont said the soldiers who burned the bodies said they did so for hygiene reasons. the rules state that bodies should not be cremated, "except for imperative reasons of hygiene Look at the facts: 1)There are 2 dead bodies. 2)They gave the enemy a chance to come get them ("You are too scared to come down and retrieve their bodies"). 3)The Taliban failed to come down to get the bodies 4) The bodies lay rotting in the sun 5) The soldiers cremated the bodies for hygiene reasons. Sounds OK to me. If they were trying to desecrate the bodies, they would have smeared them in pig ****, and *then* lit them on fire. |
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On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 10:20:40 -0400, "The One and Only Smithers"
wrote: No, so it must be misdirected anger. Perhaps they're not sure who performed their potty training, and therefore know not where their anger should be directed. -- John H "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant: It's just that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan |
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On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 15:13:09 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:
wrote in message roups.com... Dupont said the soldiers who burned the bodies said they did so for hygiene reasons. the rules state that bodies should not be cremated, "except for imperative reasons of hygiene Look at the facts: 1)There are 2 dead bodies. 2)They gave the enemy a chance to come get them ("You are too scared to come down and retrieve their bodies"). 3)The Taliban failed to come down to get the bodies 4) The bodies lay rotting in the sun 5) The soldiers cremated the bodies for hygiene reasons. Sounds OK to me. If they were trying to desecrate the bodies, they would have smeared them in pig ****, and *then* lit them on fire. If the soldiers did something which violates the UCMJ, they'll be punished, unlike Nagin. -- John H "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant: It's just that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan |
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PocoLoco wrote: On 20 Oct 2005 05:08:13 -0700, presented the group with another cut'n'paste, which he may not have read. Kevin, perhaps you should post it another half dozen times. I'm not Kevin, you dolt. Have you discussed your potty training with an adult in your life? You've asked that tens of times before, just like the "Harry, you're a ****ing liar" post. Drinking heavily again? So, just to set the newsgroup straight, what would make you think that I need to discuss my "potty training" with anyone? Are you jealous because I'm not an over the hill, mustered out of the army, crotchety old fart that has proved himself to be a low life scum bag here, like YOU? How can you make comments about another's wife, yet go bananas when someone mentions either of your parents? Who's wife, dip****? Do you see any logic in this? I'll ask again. Do you find it above board, a nice, friendly gesture, and not low classed to bring someone's long dead parents into a discussion, just because you don't know what you are talking about? |
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PocoLoco wrote: On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 09:54:33 -0400, "P Fritz" wrote: "PocoLoco" wrote in message .. . On 20 Oct 2005 05:08:13 -0700, presented the group with another cut'n'paste, which he may not have read. Kevin, perhaps you should post it another half dozen times. Have you discussed your potty training with an adult in your life? How can you make comments about another's wife, yet go bananas when someone mentions either of your parents? Do you see any logic in this? Kevin is "Stuck on Stupid" Well, I'm trying not to get into calling names, but he sure does make it rough. Then quit calling me Kevin, you dumb ass. I honestly believe he can work through some of his problems with the right help. I would like to see some of his liberal friends giving him some help also, but I can understand their reluctance to do so. He'd probably start calling them names also! Unlike you, most people have a life outside of this newsgroup, you low life piece of ****! |
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PocoLoco wrote: If the soldiers did something which violates the UCMJ, they'll be punished, unlike Nagin. How did Nagin violate the UCMJ???? Damn, you're dumb. |
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PocoLoco wrote: On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 10:02:44 -0400, "The One and Only Smithers" wrote: Harry is cute isn't he, Kevin and Harry bring joy to all who reads their words of wit. ; ) Is it just me, or have you noticed that both Kevin and Harry seems to harbor some very deep seated anger. I know you may have some doubts about my ability to diagnose psychological problems, but I *did* minor in Psychology. Therefore, I will say again, the problem is their potty training. The anger they demonstrate here is totally misdirected, unless one of us was involved in their potty training. Damn you are dumber than a hammer. |
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On 20 Oct 2005 09:27:41 -0700, wrote:
PocoLoco wrote: On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 09:54:33 -0400, "P Fritz" wrote: "PocoLoco" wrote in message .. . On 20 Oct 2005 05:08:13 -0700, presented the group with another cut'n'paste, which he may not have read. Kevin, perhaps you should post it another half dozen times. Have you discussed your potty training with an adult in your life? How can you make comments about another's wife, yet go bananas when someone mentions either of your parents? Do you see any logic in this? Kevin is "Stuck on Stupid" Well, I'm trying not to get into calling names, but he sure does make it rough. Then quit calling me Kevin, you dumb ass. I honestly believe he can work through some of his problems with the right help. I would like to see some of his liberal friends giving him some help also, but I can understand their reluctance to do so. He'd probably start calling them names also! Unlike you, most people have a life outside of this newsgroup, you low life piece of ****! Anal fixation kicking in again? -- John H "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant: It's just that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan |
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wrote in message What kind of an idiot ARE you? ...and then..... By the way, your childish name calling doesn't do a whole lot for your credibility. Did I miss something here? |
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wrote in message If the soldiers did something which violates the UCMJ, they'll be punished, unlike Nagin. How did Nagin violate the UCMJ???? Damn, you're dumb. 1. Run, don't walk, down to the library. 2. Take out a book on basic grammatical sentence structure, and how to properly read same. 2a. amendment to (2): Ask the librarian to find the book for you. That will save a really really big humongous lotta time. |
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PocoLoco wrote: Spoken by one who's never called names! Where did I EVER say I "never called names"? LOL! Idiots are easily amused. |
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Harry Krause wrote:
Herring and Hertvik want everyone to behave by standards they don't observe. Would seem you and your kind be the last ones to broach the subject of "standards", or lack thereof. -- Skipper |
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Kevin,
I have to agree with you. Are you still high stepping to Harry's orders? wrote in message oups.com... PocoLoco wrote: Spoken by one who's never called names! Where did I EVER say I "never called names"? LOL! Idiots are easily amused. |
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"Skipper" wrote in message ... Harry Krause wrote: Herring and Hertvik want everyone to behave by standards they don't observe. Would seem you and your kind be the last ones to broach the subject of "standards", or lack thereof. -- Skipper Doggone it..........I was dropped to #2 on Krause's list. Enjoy it while it lasts John. |
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*JimH* wrote:
Doggone it..........I was dropped to #2 on Krause's list. Krause drops quite a bit of #2 on this NG. -- Skipper |
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On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 15:20:15 -0400, " *JimH*" wrote:
"Skipper" wrote in message ... Harry Krause wrote: Herring and Hertvik want everyone to behave by standards they don't observe. Would seem you and your kind be the last ones to broach the subject of "standards", or lack thereof. -- Skipper Doggone it..........I was dropped to #2 on Krause's list. Enjoy it while it lasts John. I've said nothing to Harry in months. Yet he's like a puppy dog. I can't explain it, other than severe NPD. -- John H "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant: It's just that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan |
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"PocoLoco" wrote in message ... On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 15:20:15 -0400, " *JimH*" wrote: "Skipper" wrote in message ... Harry Krause wrote: Herring and Hertvik want everyone to behave by standards they don't observe. Would seem you and your kind be the last ones to broach the subject of "standards", or lack thereof. -- Skipper Doggone it..........I was dropped to #2 on Krause's list. Enjoy it while it lasts John. I've said nothing to Harry in months. Yet he's like a puppy dog. I can't explain it, other than severe NPD. -- John H "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant: It's just that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan Yep, he has a list that he keeps shuffling around. He can't keep names straight or remember them in his old age so when posting a *general* insult to all of us he just lists those who he specifically posted insults to within the last hour....those are the only ones he can remember. Poor old guy. |
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Do you only believe what you've seen a
picture of?? I take it by picture of, you are referring to a photograph? CNN just showed a copy of the video some US soldiers allegedly had broadcast "over there" so that the Taliban would see it. looks like we have pictures then. |
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John Gaquin wrote: wrote in message If the soldiers did something which violates the UCMJ, they'll be punished, unlike Nagin. How did Nagin violate the UCMJ???? Damn, you're dumb. 1. Run, don't walk, down to the library. 2. Take out a book on basic grammatical sentence structure, and how to properly read same. 2a. amendment to (2): Ask the librarian to find the book for you. That will save a really really big humongous lotta time. jeez, you're pretty stupid, huh? Read Herrings sentence slowly, and take your own advice above. You'll clearly see (IF you have ANY brains) that his sentence structure does, indeed assimilate that Nagin violated the UCMJ. |
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wrote in message jeez, you're pretty stupid, huh? Read Herrings sentence slowly, and take your own advice above. You'll clearly see (IF you have ANY brains) that his sentence structure does, indeed assimilate that Nagin violated the UCMJ. While the Librarian is fetching your grammar book, have her grab a dictionary, too. |
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On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 21:02:13 -0400, "John Gaquin"
wrote: wrote in message jeez, you're pretty stupid, huh? Read Herrings sentence slowly, and take your own advice above. You'll clearly see (IF you have ANY brains) that his sentence structure does, indeed assimilate that Nagin violated the UCMJ. While the Librarian is fetching your grammar book, have her grab a dictionary, too. Hee, hee! -- John H "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant: It's just that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan |
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"PocoLoco" wrote in message ... On 20 Oct 2005 13:50:13 -0700, wrote: John Gaquin wrote: wrote in message If the soldiers did something which violates the UCMJ, they'll be punished, unlike Nagin. How did Nagin violate the UCMJ???? Damn, you're dumb. 1. Run, don't walk, down to the library. 2. Take out a book on basic grammatical sentence structure, and how to properly read same. 2a. amendment to (2): Ask the librarian to find the book for you. That will save a really really big humongous lotta time. jeez, you're pretty stupid, huh? Read Herrings sentence slowly, and take your own advice above. You'll clearly see (IF you have ANY brains) that his sentence structure does, indeed assimilate that Nagin violated the UCMJ. Now you're 'assimilating' again! LMAO.........another keeper -- John H "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant: It's just that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan |
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