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Starbucker October 18th 05 07:23 PM

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Kevin,
What is a life lying scumbag?


wrote in message
ups.com...

wrote:
The shame, Chuck, is that you are letting someone get to you, badly.


The shame is that I went out of my way to be courteous to this guy,
despite a long history of contentious conversations, and to treat him
very professionally when he sought my help. The shame is that five
years later he chooses to capitalize on his relatively unique position
("I've met this shyster in person!") to launch a campaign of flame
throwing and crap slinging based on some out-of-the blue accusations of
dishonest dealing. None of the many comments he posted to this same NG
following his trips to Seattle contained anything except glowing
remarks about his experiences when dealing with me.

Whether he was lying then or lying now doesn't really matter. His own
words prove that he is a far bigger liar than most people could ever
aspire to become.


You can't be nice to life lying scumbags. It'll bite you in the ass
every time!




P Fritz October 18th 05 07:26 PM

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And once again.....his anal fixation shows through.


"Starbucker" wrote in message
...
Kevin,
What is a life lying scumbag?


wrote in message
ups.com...

wrote:
The shame, Chuck, is that you are letting someone get to you, badly.

The shame is that I went out of my way to be courteous to this guy,
despite a long history of contentious conversations, and to treat him
very professionally when he sought my help. The shame is that five
years later he chooses to capitalize on his relatively unique position
("I've met this shyster in person!") to launch a campaign of flame
throwing and crap slinging based on some out-of-the blue accusations of
dishonest dealing. None of the many comments he posted to this same NG
following his trips to Seattle contained anything except glowing
remarks about his experiences when dealing with me.

Whether he was lying then or lying now doesn't really matter. His own
words prove that he is a far bigger liar than most people could ever
aspire to become.


You can't be nice to life lying scumbags. It'll bite you in the ass
every time!






Skipper October 18th 05 07:38 PM

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wrote:

I'm not going to waste any more of my time with your deluded madness,
Psuedo.


Not surprised you refuse to discuss. Now I know what you meant when you
said it would evolve into a he said she said debate. You truly are a
scumbag.

Not only would your present version of the truth be different from
mine, it is obviously quite different from the facts as you represented
them here several years ago. Five years ago you wrote that you regret
not engaging me as your broker, and now the story is either (a) that I
refused to act as your broker or (b) represented you in a dishonest
manner. (Depends on which med has kicked in at the moment, I guess).


Do you think we can finds posts from you stating that meeting Skipper
was a positive experience? Suppose only you and I will really KNOW if I
accepted your solicitation to be my "representative in the NW." We both
know what you did with that authorization. You will have to live with
that knowledge. I believe most NG readers can figure it out and wonder
how they would feel if they got backstabbed by some shyster.

Since your current stories are 180-degrees opposed to your previous
statements, I suggest that you go argue with yourself. There are some
other suggestions for activities you could pursue with yourself, but
the first one that comes to mind is biologically impossible.


Yep, you are a class act, Chucky.

--
Skipper

Eisboch October 18th 05 07:58 PM

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wrote in message
oups.com...


Ignoring all the BS, do you still doubt this is the "real" Skipper?

Eisboch



[email protected] October 18th 05 10:06 PM

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Eisboch wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...


Ignoring all the BS, do you still doubt this is the "real" Skipper?

Eisboch


When the initial attack thread was posted, ("Open letter....."),
I was extremely surprised. I had some doubts that Dave Mann would do
such a total and radical about-face- and after about a five-year time
span. Spoofing other posters' ID is a common game in rec.boats,
particularly among a group of non-boaters who hang out here to take pot
shots at Harry Krause, (or anybody else they perceive as slightly left
of Zell Miller). I wanted to believe that Dave had more integrity.
Until recently, my opinion of him was somewhat "mixed": a weird guy
with a few definite problems but maybe not such a bad guy in his heart
of hearts. His latest antics have proven me wrong, and unfortunately to
his additional discredit.

When another poster with a long history of dogging me 'round and
generating attack posts happened to use exactly the same very unique
format as the opening of the "Open letter..." about a week later, I
naturally suspected a common authorship. (I apologized for posting that
suspicion on the NG).

Sadly enough, I now believe that this obviously sick and troubled
individual is the original Dave Mann. What a shame. His acid remarks
used to be tempered by a bit of good humor, and that is no longer the
case. Therefore, I will continue to address Mr. Mann as Psuedo Skipper;
as most of his boating adventures are flights of fantasy and he is now
but a poor shadow of his former self. His grammar is awful, his insults
crude, and some of his behavior (exhibited in the "Harry and Chuckie"
thread, for example) is extremely juvenile. I do wonder whether the
poor old fart had a stroke or something, Psuedo is not the Skipper of
old. The worst aspects of his quirky persona are still there, but the
glitter is long gone.


*JimH* October 18th 05 10:09 PM

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wrote in message
oups.com...

Eisboch wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...


Ignoring all the BS, do you still doubt this is the "real" Skipper?

Eisboch



snip
.....I now believe that this obviously sick and troubled
individual is the original Dave Mann.


snip


Good. I will wait for a proper apology from you for your whopper of a lie
about me.



Skipper October 18th 05 10:46 PM

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*JimH* wrote:

Good. I will wait for a proper apology from you for your whopper of a lie
about me.


You'll be waiting a long time for an apology from that swadifying pond
scum. This is the lying spinmeister Chuckie that I know:
http://tinyurl.com/8tt8k

--
Skipper

[email protected] October 18th 05 11:01 PM

Skipper Reports on His Boat shopping......
 

*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

Eisboch wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...


Ignoring all the BS, do you still doubt this is the "real" Skipper?

Eisboch



snip
.....I now believe that this obviously sick and troubled
individual is the original Dave Mann.


snip


Good. I will wait for a proper apology from you for your whopper of a lie
about me.



I jumped to a hasty conclusion based upon some rather convincing
evidence.
(Past behavior and the coincidental use of an identical and extremely
unusual posting format). Even Smithers noted that he would have
suspected your hand in the matter, but he drew some other conclusions
based upon something he noticed in the header. I should not have
expressed my conclusion, but I did.
I have already apologized for that. That's what I did wrong, so that's
the apology you get. Reaching the conclusion was an error, not a lie,
and in any case I should have kept it to myself, (as I do most of my
opinions about you and your behavior).


Skipper October 18th 05 11:11 PM

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wrote:

I jumped to a hasty conclusion based upon some rather convincing
evidence.
(Past behavior and the coincidental use of an identical and extremely
unusual posting format). Even Smithers noted that he would have
suspected your hand in the matter, but he drew some other conclusions
based upon something he noticed in the header. I should not have
expressed my conclusion, but I did.
I have already apologized for that. That's what I did wrong, so that's
the apology you get. Reaching the conclusion was an error, not a lie,
and in any case I should have kept it to myself, (as I do most of my
opinions about you and your behavior).


As I've said before, that's all the apology you're going to get from
this swadifying spinmeister:
http://tinyurl.com/8tt8k

--
Skipper

*JimH* October 18th 05 11:15 PM

Skipper Reports on His Boat shopping......
 

wrote in message
ups.com...

*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

Eisboch wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...


Ignoring all the BS, do you still doubt this is the "real" Skipper?

Eisboch


snip
.....I now believe that this obviously sick and troubled
individual is the original Dave Mann.


snip


Good. I will wait for a proper apology from you for your whopper of a
lie
about me.



I jumped to a hasty conclusion based upon some rather convincing
evidence.

snip
I have already apologized for that.


No you haven't.

That's what I did wrong, so that's
the apology you get.

snip

Your "apology" to me was nothing more than an attempt to explain why you did
what you did and blame me in part for your lie.

As Skipper said, and as I suspected, you are not man enough to make a true
apology.

You remain a liar in my eyes, as well as one who cannot apologize for the
lie. You also are now less than a real man.

End of discussion on this Chuckie. Go back to whatever you do in your
pathetic life.




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