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Harry Krause wrote:
Former President Clinton has spent more time in Louisiana and
Mississippi meeting with storm victims and officials than Bush did on
his five or six separate visits to the same area.

Kind of interesting, since Bush does very little actual "work" as POTUS.


Too busy handing out untendered contracts to Haliburton & friends.

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"Don White" wrote in message
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Harry Krause wrote:
Former President Clinton has spent more time in Louisiana and Mississippi
meeting with storm victims and officials than Bush did on his five or six
separate visits to the same area.

Kind of interesting, since Bush does very little actual "work" as POTUS.


Too busy handing out untendered contracts to Haliburton & friends.

Worse thing, other than a photo op is for a POTUS to arrive in a disaster
area. All the security, traffic problems, etc that are caused. What the
hell is Clinton doing, except photo ops? He using a shovel, hammer?

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On Thu, 06 Oct 2005 03:40:28 +0000, Bill McKee wrote:


Worse thing, other than a photo op is for a POTUS to arrive in a disaster
area. All the security, traffic problems, etc that are caused. What the
hell is Clinton doing, except photo ops? He using a shovel, hammer?

I believe Clinton and Bush I were asked by our current President to head
up to fund raise for Katrina victims.

http://www.bushclintonkatrinafund.org/

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Don White wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
Former President Clinton has spent more time in Louisiana and
Mississippi meeting with storm victims and officials than Bush did on
his five or six separate visits to the same area.

Thas because Bubba is unemployed, and has too much time on his hands

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"Don White" wrote in message
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Harry Krause wrote:
Former President Clinton has spent more time in Louisiana and
Mississippi meeting with storm victims and officials than Bush did on
his five or six separate visits to the same area.

Kind of interesting, since Bush does very little actual "work" as POTUS.


Too busy handing out untendered contracts to Haliburton & friends.

Worse thing, other than a photo op is for a POTUS to arrive in a disaster
area. All the security, traffic problems, etc that are caused. What the
hell is Clinton doing, except photo ops? He using a shovel, hammer?

Worse than having the POTUS show up at a disaster is the POTUS sitting on a
runway at LAX getting a hair cut while all other air traffic in and out is
re-routed.

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On Thu, 06 Oct 2005 07:43:10 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote:


Worse than having the POTUS show up at a disaster is the POTUS sitting on
a runway at LAX getting a hair cut while all other air traffic in and out
is re-routed.

Is this the haircut in question?

http://politus.blogspot.com/2004/04/...ut-at-lax.html

Geez, you'll believe anything the "liebral" media tells you.

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Bill,
If you read rec.boats you will see that many politicos like to use anything
for political gain. It is understood by all, that a disaster visit is a
political photo op to show the world the politician "feels their pain". The
photo op does come at a substantial cost in diverted resources when they are
desperately need to protect and save lives.

A leader does not need to make the visit to understand the magnitude of the
problem. When you read rec.boats you see there are people who turn anything
the political opponent does negatively. If the president does not visit the
disaster, he doesn't care, if he does visit the disaster site, it is a photo
op for political gain. .


"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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"Don White" wrote in message
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Harry Krause wrote:
Former President Clinton has spent more time in Louisiana and
Mississippi meeting with storm victims and officials than Bush did on
his five or six separate visits to the same area.

Kind of interesting, since Bush does very little actual "work" as POTUS.


Too busy handing out untendered contracts to Haliburton & friends.

Worse thing, other than a photo op is for a POTUS to arrive in a disaster
area. All the security, traffic problems, etc that are caused. What the
hell is Clinton doing, except photo ops? He using a shovel, hammer?

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Thunder,
You are correct, and it is possible Clinton's trip will keep the disaster
relief effort on the public's mind, but it is a photo op, the same as when
Bush made his trip to NO was a photo op. We should not expect or even want
our politicians to visit disaster sites because it does divert resources
from where they are needed most. Yet if you read rec.boats, you can see how
people will spin a visit or a "non-visit" anyway they want.

I believe Clinton made the trip because he believed it would help raise
money and provide emotional support to those in need. The fact that
Clinton, or any ex-president, enjoys the limelight, does not diminish the
major reason he made the visit. The "Limelight" was just a bonus for
Clinton's ego, not his main objective.


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On Thu, 06 Oct 2005 03:40:28 +0000, Bill McKee wrote:


Worse thing, other than a photo op is for a POTUS to arrive in a disaster
area. All the security, traffic problems, etc that are caused. What the
hell is Clinton doing, except photo ops? He using a shovel, hammer?

I believe Clinton and Bush I were asked by our current President to head
up to fund raise for Katrina victims.

http://www.bushclintonkatrinafund.org/

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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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"Don White" wrote in message
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Harry Krause wrote:
Former President Clinton has spent more time in Louisiana and
Mississippi meeting with storm victims and officials than Bush did on
his five or six separate visits to the same area.

Kind of interesting, since Bush does very little actual "work" as POTUS.


Too busy handing out untendered contracts to Haliburton & friends.

Worse thing, other than a photo op is for a POTUS to arrive in a disaster
area. All the security, traffic problems, etc that are caused. What the
hell is Clinton doing, except photo ops? He using a shovel, hammer?


No, he was appointed to find areas where the money can be best spent. I
can't resist grin Something the democrats are known for, spending money.

Anyway good for him as he, I'm sure has more energy than 80+ year old former
president Bush. I'm sure he will probably do a better job that the Federal
government. And that statement is not political, just facing facts...no
matter who controls it the Federal government is not designed to be
efficient.

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Harry,
Anyone who would use his quick photo op as the basis for where to spend
money is an idiot. Clinton is not an idiot. The visit was a photo op to
draw attention to the fund raising, and to show the public that he feels
their pain.

You on the other hand, could learn from Clinton.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Bill McKee wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
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Harry Krause wrote:
Former President Clinton has spent more time in Louisiana and
Mississippi meeting with storm victims and officials than Bush did on
his five or six separate visits to the same area.

Kind of interesting, since Bush does very little actual "work" as
POTUS.

Too busy handing out untendered contracts to Haliburton & friends.

Worse thing, other than a photo op is for a POTUS to arrive in a disaster
area. All the security, traffic problems, etc that are caused. What the
hell is Clinton doing, except photo ops? He using a shovel, hammer?


He's there getting information to help decide how best to spend the money
he and former President Bush have raised. Former President Bush will be
touring the stricken areas next week.

I do agree, though, that when Dubya goes to those areas, it is only for a
photo-op.

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Bill,
If you read rec.boats you will see that many politicos like to use
anything for political gain. It is understood by all, that a disaster
visit is a political photo op to show the world the politician "feels
their pain". The photo op does come at a substantial cost in diverted
resources when they are desperately need to protect and save lives.

A leader does not need to make the visit to understand the magnitude of
the problem. When you read rec.boats you see there are people who turn
anything the political opponent does negatively. If the president does
not visit the disaster, he doesn't care, if he does visit the disaster
site, it is a photo op for political gain. .


"Bill McKee" wrote in message
link.net...

"Don White" wrote in message
...
Harry Krause wrote:
Former President Clinton has spent more time in Louisiana and
Mississippi meeting with storm victims and officials than Bush did on
his five or six separate visits to the same area.

Kind of interesting, since Bush does very little actual "work" as
POTUS.


Too busy handing out untendered contracts to Haliburton & friends.

Worse thing, other than a photo op is for a POTUS to arrive in a disaster
area. All the security, traffic problems, etc that are caused. What the
hell is Clinton doing, except photo ops? He using a shovel, hammer?


Lots of people in this (and other newsgroups) are a prime example of why
politics is so F&^&%&^_up in the USA. All the grousing about the
opposition, but no solutions for their own party. Reason Al Gore lost.
Twice! Just attack the oppositions stance. No constructive criticism to
show that they have a clue. The Dem's have not learned. As Reagan said
when he changed to the Republican party. 'He did not leave the Democratic
Party, they left him.'. The people who have wrested control of the
Democratic party have not a clue about most of the feelings and worries of
the people of in this country. There have projected themselves so much into
the mix, they have lost most of the seats of government in the country, that
are not safely a huge Dem majority. Use Harry as a prime example. He does
nothing but attack Bush. When has he said what the Dem's should do other
than attack Bush? I use Harry as an example, only because he is the most
vocal, but there are many more here.

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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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"Don White" wrote in message
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Harry Krause wrote:
Former President Clinton has spent more time in Louisiana and
Mississippi meeting with storm victims and officials than Bush did on
his five or six separate visits to the same area.

Kind of interesting, since Bush does very little actual "work" as
POTUS.


Too busy handing out untendered contracts to Haliburton & friends.

Worse thing, other than a photo op is for a POTUS to arrive in a disaster
area. All the security, traffic problems, etc that are caused. What the
hell is Clinton doing, except photo ops? He using a shovel, hammer?


No, he was appointed to find areas where the money can be best spent. I
can't resist grin Something the democrats are known for, spending money.

Anyway good for him as he, I'm sure has more energy than 80+ year old
former president Bush. I'm sure he will probably do a better job that the
Federal government. And that statement is not political, just facing
facts...no matter who controls it the Federal government is not designed
to be efficient.


And Clinton was not very efficient when he was POTUS. Why do you think he
will be efficient now?

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Bill,
I think the Repub's need some good competition. the Dems are not giving them
any. As long as the Dem's have vocal supporters similar to Harry and field
lackluster candidates, and fail to move towards the middle, they will
continue to lose power.


"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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"Starbuck's Words of Wisdom" wrote in message
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Bill,
If you read rec.boats you will see that many politicos like to use
anything for political gain. It is understood by all, that a disaster
visit is a political photo op to show the world the politician "feels
their pain". The photo op does come at a substantial cost in diverted
resources when they are desperately need to protect and save lives.

A leader does not need to make the visit to understand the magnitude of
the problem. When you read rec.boats you see there are people who turn
anything the political opponent does negatively. If the president does
not visit the disaster, he doesn't care, if he does visit the disaster
site, it is a photo op for political gain. .


"Bill McKee" wrote in message
link.net...

"Don White" wrote in message
...
Harry Krause wrote:
Former President Clinton has spent more time in Louisiana and
Mississippi meeting with storm victims and officials than Bush did on
his five or six separate visits to the same area.

Kind of interesting, since Bush does very little actual "work" as
POTUS.


Too busy handing out untendered contracts to Haliburton & friends.

Worse thing, other than a photo op is for a POTUS to arrive in a
disaster area. All the security, traffic problems, etc that are caused.
What the hell is Clinton doing, except photo ops? He using a shovel,
hammer?


Lots of people in this (and other newsgroups) are a prime example of why
politics is so F&^&%&^_up in the USA. All the grousing about the
opposition, but no solutions for their own party. Reason Al Gore lost.
Twice! Just attack the oppositions stance. No constructive criticism to
show that they have a clue. The Dem's have not learned. As Reagan said
when he changed to the Republican party. 'He did not leave the Democratic
Party, they left him.'. The people who have wrested control of the
Democratic party have not a clue about most of the feelings and worries of
the people of in this country. There have projected themselves so much
into the mix, they have lost most of the seats of government in the
country, that are not safely a huge Dem majority. Use Harry as a prime
example. He does nothing but attack Bush. When has he said what the
Dem's should do other than attack Bush? I use Harry as an example, only
because he is the most vocal, but there are many more here.

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On Fri, 07 Oct 2005 02:21:30 +0000, Bill McKee wrote:


And Clinton was not very efficient when he was POTUS. Why do you think he
will be efficient now?

He has always been one hell of a fund raiser.

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Starbuck's Words of Wisdom Oct 6, 9:35 pm Newsgroups: rec.boats
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Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 22:35:06 -0400
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Bill,
I think the Repub's need some good competition. the Dems are not giving them
any. As long as the Dem's have vocal supporters similar to Harry
and field
lackluster candidates, and fail to move towards the middle, they will
continue to lose power.

What do you mean? at least, Kerry had a "plan".

I really don't think even he knew what it was, but a "plan" is a "plan"
LOL

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"thunder" wrote in message
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On Fri, 07 Oct 2005 02:21:30 +0000, Bill McKee wrote:


And Clinton was not very efficient when he was POTUS. Why do you think
he
will be efficient now?

He has always been one hell of a fund raiser.

Rather than getting permission for the FBI to investigate the Kobar Towers
incident he put the squeeze on the Saudi's to make a sizable donation to his
Presidential Library.

The only thing Clinton cares about is himself.

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"Jeff Rigby" wrote in message
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"Don White" wrote in message
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Harry Krause wrote:
Former President Clinton has spent more time in Louisiana and
Mississippi meeting with storm victims and officials than Bush did on
his five or six separate visits to the same area.

Kind of interesting, since Bush does very little actual "work" as
POTUS.


Too busy handing out untendered contracts to Haliburton & friends.

Worse thing, other than a photo op is for a POTUS to arrive in a
disaster area. All the security, traffic problems, etc that are caused.
What the hell is Clinton doing, except photo ops? He using a shovel,
hammer?


No, he was appointed to find areas where the money can be best spent. I
can't resist grin Something the democrats are known for, spending
money.

Anyway good for him as he, I'm sure has more energy than 80+ year old
former president Bush. I'm sure he will probably do a better job that
the Federal government. And that statement is not political, just facing
facts...no matter who controls it the Federal government is not designed
to be efficient.


And Clinton was not very efficient when he was POTUS. Why do you think he
will be efficient now?
Looking fairly at his presidency, the problems he had were in what he did
while fundraising for the democrat party.

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On 7 Oct 2005 01:01:06 -0700, wrote:

Starbuck's Words of Wisdom Oct 6, 9:35 pm Newsgroups: rec.boats
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Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 22:35:06 -0400
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Bill,
I think the Repub's need some good competition. the Dems are not giving them
any. As long as the Dem's have vocal supporters similar to Harry
and field
lackluster candidates, and fail to move towards the middle, they will
continue to lose power.

What do you mean? at least, Kerry had a "plan".

I really don't think even he knew what it was, but a "plan" is a "plan"
LOL

He had at least a *hundred* plans.

--
John H

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant: It's just that they know so much that isn't so."

Ronald Reagan