JohnH,

DAMN. Can you believe how accurately that describes Harry. Normally people
might have 75% of the symptoms, Harry had 100% It seems as if the author
personally knew Harry. I guess that is what happens when you are Anal
Retentive and NPD.

I am impressed with your Google skills.


"PocoLoco" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 2 Oct 2005 15:41:37 -0400, "Mr. Skip Starbuck"
wrote:

"Maladaptation in this stage manifests as either anal expulsive
personality
or
anal retentive personality, both of which lead to immature and neurotic
behavior
in one's adult life."

Is Narcissistic personality disorder considered Neurotic Behavior?

Some info:

Diagnostic Criteria

A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for
admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present
in a
variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:

1. has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates
achievements
and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate
achievements)
2. is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power,
brilliance,
beauty, or ideal love
3. believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be
understood
by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or
institutions)
4. requires excessive admiration
5. has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of
especially
favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations
6. is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to
achieve his or her own ends
7. lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the
feelings and
needs of others
8. is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him
or
her
9. shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes
*************************

Some more info:

FIVE DON'T DO'S
How to Avoid the Wrath of the Narcissist


* Never disagree with the narcissist or contradict him;

* Never offer him any intimacy;

* Look awed by whatever attribute matters to him (for instance: by his
professional achievements or by his good looks, or by his success with
women and
so on);

* Never remind him of life out there and if you do, connect it somehow
to
his sense of grandiosity;

* Do not make any comment, which might directly or indirectly impinge
on his
self-image, omnipotence, judgment, omniscience, skills, capabilities,
professional record, or even omnipresence. Bad sentences start with: "I
think
you overlooked ... made a mistake here ... you don't know ... do you know
...
you were not here yesterday so ... you cannot ... you should ...
(perceived as
rude imposition, narcissists react very badly to restrictions placed on
their
freedom) ... I (never mention the fact that you are a separate,
independent
entity, narcissists regard others as extensions of their selves, their
internalization processes were screwed up and they did not differentiate
properly) ..." You get the gist of it.
*******************************************

Some good info can be found at:

http://www.angelfire.com/ego/narcissism/

Including:

"Lying is an integral part of the narcissist's behavior and all their
self-reports are unreliable. His cognition is impaired to the extent that
he
frequently misinterprets other's speech, actions, and thoughts. He may
believe
that someone respects or loves him although this is a fantasy which exists
only
in the mind of the narcissist."


--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

"Mr. Skip Starbuck" wrote in message
...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
I don't think there is room up my butt for you, Smithers, and Hertdik at
the same time. Perhaps you ought to play choosies for a while.

This is really bothering me now, not only does Harry have anal fixation,
but he is envisioning sticking very large objects up his butt. I don't
know why but it just seems very sick to me. I know what he does can not
be healthy.



I am in his mind, not his butt. He cannot stop obsessing about me even when
he is on vacation in paradise with a young and lovely woman (according to
Krause).

This is truly amazing and I hope old man gets help.

"PocoLoco" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 2 Oct 2005 15:43:08 -0400, "Mr. Skip Starbuck"
wrote:

JohnH,
I think Harry has devised a "bot" to reply to your posts without reading
them. I don't believe you make any posts without a Krause reply.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
BTW, I've given up on reading 99% of your posts, Herring. As with your
life these days, your posts are totally devoid of meaningful content.


Well, I'm glad to read that he only reads 1% of them. I wonder how he
replies to
the other 99%? You think it's automatic. Interesting.

I wonder if he spoofs ISPs also? He's probably pretty proficient with
computers.
I'll bet he'd say so if one asked him.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

He is spending a vacation in Hawaii with a young and beautiful woman (as
Krause describes her and I have no reason to doubt him) in front of his
computer on rec.boats obsessing about you, Starbucks and me.

Pretty sad.

On Sun, 2 Oct 2005 16:31:41 -0400, "Mr. Skip Starbuck"
wrote:

JohnH,

DAMN. Can you believe how accurately that describes Harry. Normally people
might have 75% of the symptoms, Harry had 100% It seems as if the author
personally knew Harry. I guess that is what happens when you are Anal
Retentive and NPD.

I am impressed with your Google skills.


Google? What's Google???

I'm trying to give you a decent response because I know your intent is to help
Harry.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

On Sun, 2 Oct 2005 16:27:50 -0400, "Mr. Skip Starbuck"
wrote:

JohnH,
I think you hit the nail on the head. I wonder if I should forward a copy
to Harry's wife. While the poor woman is not a Dr. Dr., as a social worker
I am sure she could refer Harry to some excellent therapists.

If he is this way in rec.boats, can you imagine what he is like at home. I
think I understand why his wife let Harry spend his vacation on rec.boats.


Be careful. Narcissists are very often abusive. We wouldn't the beautiful, young
Dr. Dr. bride getting in trouble.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

PocoLoco wrote:
On Sun, 2 Oct 2005 14:20:29 -0400, "Mr. Skip Starbuck"
wrote:

Krause,
I do have to ask you, what is with your anal fixation. It has rubbed off on
your buddy Kevin and it seems every one of yours and Kevin's post mention
the anus. What gives?



But "Kevin" (Guzzi-boy) is probably into "fisting" as well.

File that under "More than I need to know" ; )


wrote in message
oups.com...

PocoLoco wrote:
On Sun, 2 Oct 2005 14:20:29 -0400, "Mr. Skip Starbuck"
wrote:

Krause,
I do have to ask you, what is with your anal fixation. It has rubbed
off on
your buddy Kevin and it seems every one of yours and Kevin's post
mention
the anus. What gives?



But "Kevin" (Guzzi-boy) is probably into "fisting" as well.

Don,
Certainly you know it was Harry who sent this thread down the craphole. I
have never seen anyone who spends more time discussing the rectum and what
he likes to stick up them more than Harry.

I for one agree, this needs to die an unnatural death.


"Don White" wrote in message
...
wrote:



But "Kevin" (Guzzi-boy) is probably into "fisting" as well.


Please take your perversions to the appropriate newsgroup.

"Mr. Skip Starbuck" wrote in message
...
Don,
Certainly you know it was Harry who sent this thread down the craphole. I
have never seen anyone who spends more time discussing the rectum and what
he likes to stick up them more than Harry.

I for one agree, this needs to die an unnatural death.


"Don White" wrote in message
...
wrote:



But "Kevin" (Guzzi-boy) is probably into "fisting" as well.


Please take your perversions to the appropriate newsgroup.

It may be a perversion for skip starbuck, but it is a lifestyle for
kevin, harry and don.