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Hi All,
First time boat owner, so I don't really know too much about them. I just got a 1988 Falcon Striper Pro boat. Needs some cleaning up, and some work done to it, it also needs a motor and controles. My question is what size motor should I consider putting on it. I plan to just use it for fishing in the local lakes. We are not interested in using it to ski or going supper fast. I would like for the motor to have enough power to get me off the lake quickly in the event of a storm blowing up. I realize the boat is rather old, but I made what I think to be a pretty good deal when I bought it, so I don't have a lot of money tied up in it right now. Any advice would be appreciated. Regards, John |
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Oops.... forgot to include, it's an 18 footer........
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Sorry, It's a fiberglass boat.
"Dean" wrote in message ... On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 17:44:20 GMT, "John-R W" wrote: Oops.... forgot to include, it's an 18 footer........ fiberglass or aluminum? if aluminum, i would say around 115 should be plenty for basic cruzing, and pulling a skier. If fiberglass, add 20HP or so to that reccomendation. Top speeds should be in the 40mph range or so. -Dean -- http://ripperd2.dhs.org |
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"John-R W" wrote in message ... Hi All, First time boat owner, so I don't really know too much about them. I just got a 1988 Falcon Striper Pro boat. Needs some cleaning up, and some work done to it, it also needs a motor and controles. My question is what size motor should I consider putting on it. I plan to just use it for fishing in the local lakes. We are not interested in using it to ski or going supper fast. I would like for the motor to have enough power to get me off the lake quickly in the event of a storm blowing up. I realize the boat is rather old, but I made what I think to be a pretty good deal when I bought it, so I don't have a lot of money tied up in it right now. Any advice would be appreciated. Anywhere from 50 to 90 is probably acceptable. Might take a while to get on plane, but with the right prop, that can be fixed You can also add those Dolfins or whatever they are called which also help a lot. As you aren't looking for speed, that's probably what you are looking at. However (ain't there always?) See what the data plate on the boat says - every boat has and that will tell you what the max is. To be totally safe and comfortable, put the max engine on the boat that the data plate says to. You can go 25 under and still have a boat which will plane quickly, but max is always the way to go. Later, Tom |
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Agreed. Go max. You can always slow down. You can't add more power later.
The savings in cost are not worth the agrivation of not having enough power. In your case you want power not top speed. Mount the motor all the way down on the transom, Get a good 4 blade prop and it will jump out of the hole and run great. -- Tony my boats and autos - http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com "Rural Knight" wrote in message ink.net... "John-R W" wrote in message ... Hi All, First time boat owner, so I don't really know too much about them. I just got a 1988 Falcon Striper Pro boat. Needs some cleaning up, and some work done to it, it also needs a motor and controles. My question is what size motor should I consider putting on it. I plan to just use it for fishing in the local lakes. We are not interested in using it to ski or going supper fast. I would like for the motor to have enough power to get me off the lake quickly in the event of a storm blowing up. I realize the boat is rather old, but I made what I think to be a pretty good deal when I bought it, so I don't have a lot of money tied up in it right now. Any advice would be appreciated. Anywhere from 50 to 90 is probably acceptable. Might take a while to get on plane, but with the right prop, that can be fixed You can also add those Dolfins or whatever they are called which also help a lot. As you aren't looking for speed, that's probably what you are looking at. However (ain't there always?) See what the data plate on the boat says - every boat has and that will tell you what the max is. To be totally safe and comfortable, put the max engine on the boat that the data plate says to. You can go 25 under and still have a boat which will plane quickly, but max is always the way to go. Later, Tom |
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Hi John,
I think that 80% of max power is OK, but I am one for max power myself. What is this boat rated for max HP? -- Bill Kiene Kiene's Fly Shop Sacramento, CA www.kiene.com "John-R W" wrote in message ... Hi All, First time boat owner, so I don't really know too much about them. I just got a 1988 Falcon Striper Pro boat. Needs some cleaning up, and some work done to it, it also needs a motor and controles. My question is what size motor should I consider putting on it. I plan to just use it for fishing in the local lakes. We are not interested in using it to ski or going supper fast. I would like for the motor to have enough power to get me off the lake quickly in the event of a storm blowing up. I realize the boat is rather old, but I made what I think to be a pretty good deal when I bought it, so I don't have a lot of money tied up in it right now. Any advice would be appreciated. Regards, John |
What Size Motor
You can get by w/ the 150 but nothing less. The 125/135/140 (depending on
brand) does not have the torque you will want or need. The difference in price between the 150 and the 175 is not much and well worth the extra. -- Tony My boats and autos - http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com "John-R W" wrote in message ... The tag in the back of the boat says 175 hp, and a max. load of 1300 lbs. "Bill Kiene" wrote in message . com... Hi John, I think that 80% of max power is OK, but I am one for max power myself. What is this boat rated for max HP? -- Bill Kiene Kiene's Fly Shop Sacramento, CA www.kiene.com "John-R W" wrote in message ... Hi All, First time boat owner, so I don't really know too much about them. I just got a 1988 Falcon Striper Pro boat. Needs some cleaning up, and some work done to it, it also needs a motor and controles. My question is what size motor should I consider putting on it. I plan to just use it for fishing in the local lakes. We are not interested in using it to ski or going supper fast. I would like for the motor to have enough power to get me off the lake quickly in the event of a storm blowing up. I realize the boat is rather old, but I made what I think to be a pretty good deal when I bought it, so I don't have a lot of money tied up in it right now. Any advice would be appreciated. Regards, John |
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I can agree with that.
Later, Tom "Tony Thomas" wrote in message news:bWKZa.120267$o%2.53469@sccrnsc02... You can get by w/ the 150 but nothing less. The 125/135/140 (depending on brand) does not have the torque you will want or need. The difference in price between the 150 and the 175 is not much and well worth the extra. -- Tony My boats and autos - http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com "John-R W" wrote in message ... The tag in the back of the boat says 175 hp, and a max. load of 1300 lbs. "Bill Kiene" wrote in message . com... Hi John, I think that 80% of max power is OK, but I am one for max power myself. What is this boat rated for max HP? -- Bill Kiene Kiene's Fly Shop Sacramento, CA www.kiene.com "John-R W" wrote in message ... Hi All, First time boat owner, so I don't really know too much about them. I just got a 1988 Falcon Striper Pro boat. Needs some cleaning up, and some work done to it, it also needs a motor and controles. My question is what size motor should I consider putting on it. I plan to just use it for fishing in the local lakes. We are not interested in using it to ski or going supper fast. I would like for the motor to have enough power to get me off the lake quickly in the event of a storm blowing up. I realize the boat is rather old, but I made what I think to be a pretty good deal when I bought it, so I don't have a lot of money tied up in it right now. Any advice would be appreciated. Regards, John |
What Size Motor
We have a 130hp 4 stroke with a 4 blade prop on our 18 foot boat (boat only
dry weight 1800lbs). Top speed is about 42mph with 2 adults and a full load of fuel and gear. It cruises nicely at 3800rpm at 20 knots on salt water. I have seen the same boat with a 90hp and while the time to get on plane is longer it still gets there and seems to be adequate with 2 adults on board (and the owners said they were satisfied). So while I would recommend 130 or so, you can get by with a little less. "John-R W" wrote in message ... Hi All, First time boat owner, so I don't really know too much about them. I just got a 1988 Falcon Striper Pro boat. Needs some cleaning up, and some work done to it, it also needs a motor and controles. My question is what size motor should I consider putting on it. I plan to just use it for fishing in the local lakes. We are not interested in using it to ski or going supper fast. I would like for the motor to have enough power to get me off the lake quickly in the event of a storm blowing up. I realize the boat is rather old, but I made what I think to be a pretty good deal when I bought it, so I don't have a lot of money tied up in it right now. Any advice would be appreciated. Regards, John |
What Size Motor
On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 17:42:48 GMT, "John-R W"
wrote: Hi All, First time boat owner, so I don't really know too much about them. I just got a 1988 Falcon Striper Pro boat. Needs some cleaning up, and some work done to it, it also needs a motor and controles. My question is what size motor should I consider putting on it. I plan to just use it for fishing in the local lakes. We are not interested in using it to ski or going supper fast. I would like for the motor to have enough power to get me off the lake quickly in the event of a storm blowing up. I realize the boat is rather old, but I made what I think to be a pretty good deal when I bought it, so I don't have a lot of money tied up in it right now. Any advice would be appreciated. Regards, John John- there are others here who advise going with the max hp that your boat is rated for. Their advice is not wrong. If you have the money to afford a 175, go for it. If you are on a tight budget, and have little interest in skiing or tubing or generally "raising hell", you can use this boat with a smaller engine. 60 to 70 hp will put this hull on plane, and while you won't break speed records, will get you to the fishing hole. Your budget will dictate the horsepower. Better to spend money on a good engine than a bigger clunker. It all comes down to what you want to do, and how fast you can afford to do it. B.O.A.T. - "Break Out Another Thousand" :o) "Boat", n., - a hole in the water where you throw your money. :ož Good luck, noah Courtesy of Lee Yeaton, See the boats of rec.boats www.TheBayGuide.com/rec.boats |
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Both boat and trailer are in fairly good shape. I picked up both boat and
trailer for $200. I felt like the trailer was probably worth that much. Even if I trash the boat, I can turn the trailer into one for hauling. I know how to weld, and have access to welding equipment, and all the structural materials I would ever need to convert it. I was a bit shocked when I went to Outdoor World and priced some motors. A 175 was going for close to $9,000. I am in hopes of finding a used rebuilt motor. Like I said, all I want this thing for is to tool around in the out of the way places to do fishing. If I can't find a good used motor, oh well, I'll have myself a nice trailer to haul wood for my woodworking stuff. Thanks for the reply. "Bill Kiene" wrote in message . .. John, You might be able to run with one other person and not much gear with a 100hp, but as soon as you try to take the family and lots of fuel/gear, you won't be able to get on plane. I hope the boat and trailer is in good shape and you love it and it was close to free because a motor&controls is going to cost $10,000 to $15,000US installed. This is why used boats with big old 2 stroke outboards are not always a good deal, even for free? The good thing is that you already feel like you need a new motor. That's a good start. Good luck. -- Bill Kiene Kiene's Fly Shop Sacramento, CA www.kiene.com "John-R W" wrote in message ... The tag in the back of the boat says 175 hp, and a max. load of 1300 lbs. "Bill Kiene" wrote in message . com... Hi John, I think that 80% of max power is OK, but I am one for max power myself. What is this boat rated for max HP? -- Bill Kiene Kiene's Fly Shop Sacramento, CA www.kiene.com "John-R W" wrote in message ... Hi All, First time boat owner, so I don't really know too much about them. I just got a 1988 Falcon Striper Pro boat. Needs some cleaning up, and some work done to it, it also needs a motor and controles. My question is what size motor should I consider putting on it. I plan to just use it for fishing in the local lakes. We are not interested in using it to ski or going supper fast. I would like for the motor to have enough power to get me off the lake quickly in the event of a storm blowing up. I realize the boat is rather old, but I made what I think to be a pretty good deal when I bought it, so I don't have a lot of money tied up in it right now. Any advice would be appreciated. Regards, John |
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Horsefeathers.
The Merc 99ci inline 90's, 115's, 125's 135s, 140', and 150's all had about the same torque right out of the hole. Those with the smaller ports fell off faster on the way up is all. A good used Merc 115 inline would get that puppy moving just fine. Search Ebay... they are out there. -W "Rural Knight" wrote in message link.net... I can agree with that. Later, Tom "Tony Thomas" wrote in message news:bWKZa.120267$o%2.53469@sccrnsc02... You can get by w/ the 150 but nothing less. The 125/135/140 (depending on brand) does not have the torque you will want or need. The difference in price between the 150 and the 175 is not much and well worth the extra. -- Tony My boats and autos - http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com "John-R W" wrote in message ... The tag in the back of the boat says 175 hp, and a max. load of 1300 lbs. "Bill Kiene" wrote in message . com... Hi John, I think that 80% of max power is OK, but I am one for max power myself. What is this boat rated for max HP? -- Bill Kiene Kiene's Fly Shop Sacramento, CA www.kiene.com "John-R W" wrote in message ... Hi All, First time boat owner, so I don't really know too much about them. I just got a 1988 Falcon Striper Pro boat. Needs some cleaning up, and some work done to it, it also needs a motor and controles. My question is what size motor should I consider putting on it. I plan to just use it for fishing in the local lakes. We are not interested in using it to ski or going supper fast. I would like for the motor to have enough power to get me off the lake quickly in the event of a storm blowing up. I realize the boat is rather old, but I made what I think to be a pretty good deal when I bought it, so I don't have a lot of money tied up in it right now. Any advice would be appreciated. Regards, John |
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"noah" wrote in message ... B.O.A.T. - "Break Out Another Thousand" :o) "Boat", n., - a hole in the water where you throw your money. :ož Good luck, noah I am starting to see the truth in your caption. And yes, slow fishing is all I care to do. I just want something that will get me off the bank, out to where the fish are. However, I would like to get the hell off the water if a storm blew up. I just might have me a good $200 trailer. Thank for your response |
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On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 01:48:39 GMT, "John-R W"
wrote: Both boat and trailer are in fairly good shape. I picked up both boat and trailer for $200. I felt like the trailer was probably worth that much. Even if I trash the boat, I can turn the trailer into one for hauling. I know how to weld, and have access to welding equipment, and all the structural materials I would ever need to convert it. I was a bit shocked when I went to Outdoor World and priced some motors. A 175 was going for close to $9,000. I am in hopes of finding a used rebuilt motor. Like I said, all I want this thing for is to tool around in the out of the way places to do fishing. If I can't find a good used motor, oh well, I'll have myself a nice trailer to haul wood for my woodworking stuff. Thanks for the reply. John- if you're on a tight budget with this boat, you can have some fun for a lot less than $9,000.00. A 175 will go like hell, but it will plane with an 80. Check your local dealers, check the Want-ads. If you are buying used, don't pay up until you try it, or it is checked by a decent mechanic. You should be able to put a serviceable engine on that boat for $1,500.00, or less. If I had my 'druthers, I'd have an offshore center-console, but I do just fine, and have a lot of fun, with a yard full of second-handers. My neighbors first called me "noah", because of all the damned boats in my yard. I love 'em, and they're fun (the boats, not the neighbors :o) Your engine is out there, you just need to find it. Good luck, noah Hey Clams, you got anything? |
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The more you are willing to travel to get a deal, the better off you will
be. -W (off to DC to get new boat) "noah" wrote in message ... On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 01:55:53 GMT, "John-R W" wrote: "noah" wrote in message .. . B.O.A.T. - "Break Out Another Thousand" :o) "Boat", n., - a hole in the water where you throw your money. :ož Good luck, noah I am starting to see the truth in your caption. And yes, slow fishing is all I care to do. I just want something that will get me off the bank, out to where the fish are. However, I would like to get the hell off the water if a storm blew up. I just might have me a good $200 trailer. Thank for your response I really don't mean to scare you off. As others may attest, once the boat-bug bites, we tend to spend more than we intended. :o) If you do your homework, and legwork, you can find a good engine for this boat. noah |
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On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 01:55:53 +0000, John-R W wrote:
"noah" wrote in message ... B.O.A.T. - "Break Out Another Thousand" :o) "Boat", n., - a hole in the water where you throw your money. :ož Good luck, noah I am starting to see the truth in your caption. And yes, slow fishing is all I care to do. I just want something that will get me off the bank, out to where the fish are. However, I would like to get the hell off the water if a storm blew up. I just might have me a good $200 trailer. Just had a look at the boats around 18ft at the marina - most had under 100hp. One had 50hp, but the boat was pretty light. And as posts in this NG can show, a NEW engine is no guarantee it will be reliable - you may get a more reliable engine that 10 or even 20 years old. I'd go for a 10-year-old 100hp, probably around $2000 or so, and a 10-15hp kicker to get you home and for trolling (another $700) Lloyd |
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Not only wnat Clams said, but also look at the used boat ads.
Yeah, you may have to dump the hull or perhaps you could sell it cheap, but someties folks buy boats just for the motors. My nephew got a great deal on a boat that the previous owner bought just for the motor and unloaded the hull at a *REALLY* decent price! -Jim Clams Canino wrote: The more you are willing to travel to get a deal, the better off you will be. -W |
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I've got a 1993 Glastron 18ft Fish & Ski with a 90hp Johnson. With just me in
it the boat top speed is about 42mph. The 90 has been more than enought for the cruising/tubing/fishing that we've done and has not needed any repairs in 10 years. Last year my kids wanted to try skiing and only then with a 3 or more people in the boat did I wish I have the 150hp. But I also priced them and got sticker shock since a new 150 is going to pretty much for what I paid for the entire boat/motor/trailer combo back in 93. I also have concerns about the newer outboards needing much more in the way of regular servicing (my boat hasn't seen the dealer since I bought it) So I think an older 90hp or similar V4 should be fine for your needs. If anyone knows of a deal on a carbed 150hp OMC, I would be interested as well. |
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